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zxracer1784
05-30-2002, 11:53 AM
Hello again,

I'm planning on doing an engine swap with one of the skyline motors. I haven't decided which motor yet, but I think price is going to decide that for me. I've also heard that the rb26dett is just too much engine for the 240 mainly because it has trouble not breaking traction. You end up leaving more rubber on the road and not get very far.
Ok on to my questions. First I'm tired of people saying that it's too expensive and not worth it to put a skyline motor in a 240. That's BS speed is always worth it. I've been looking into it and it's actuallya straight forward engine swap, for the most part. I was just wondering if anybody out there could tell me all they know about the actual procedure of changing the engines. So please tell me what y'all know and give me a couple of tips.
Second question is does anybody know of places where I can get a skyline front clip and general skyline parts at a descent price. Anybody just know where I can get aftermarket parts cheap would be really cool. There's got to be somebody with a wholesale hook up.

Thank you in advance

NISM066
05-30-2002, 01:32 PM
I have no idea about the swap, but check out www.okinawaimportmotorsports.com .

J SPEC SilEighty
05-30-2002, 02:58 PM
Originally posted by zxracer1784
Hello again,

I'm planning on doing an engine swap with one of the skyline motors. I haven't decided which motor yet, but I think price is going to decide that for me. I've also heard that the rb26dett is just too much engine for the 240 mainly because it has trouble not breaking traction. You end up leaving more rubber on the road and not get very far.
Ok on to my questions. First I'm tired of people saying that it's too expensive and not worth it to put a skyline motor in a 240. That's BS speed is always worth it. I've been looking into it and it's actuallya straight forward engine swap, for the most part. I was just wondering if anybody out there could tell me all they know about the actual procedure of changing the engines. So please tell me what y'all know and give me a couple of tips.
Second question is does anybody know of places where I can get a skyline front clip and general skyline parts at a descent price. Anybody just know where I can get aftermarket parts cheap would be really cool. There's got to be somebody with a wholesale hook up.



Ok, first off here is why most people will say that it's not worth it. For the 15-25k your going to spend on getting the RB26DETT and swapping it into a 240, you could go out and buy and SR (or stay with the KA) and then completly build the bottem end strong as hell and then buy a larger turbo, ecu, injectors, hell you could go buy everything. with 20k invested into an SR or KA you would most likely be getting single digit time slips as well.

The engine swap will not be straight forward at all, it will require custom fabricated engine mounts. It will most likely require a bunch of cutting, welding, and custom work to the engine bay.

Last, if you have enough money to go out and spend all that on an RB swap then you shouldn't be trying to find "cheap" parts. No parts for the skyline are going to be cheap because most of the parts aren't sold here in the states so you will have to pay expensive shipping costs from japan. Plus all the phone calls your going to have to make over there will get expensive. But a pretty good site with japanese parts for the skyline is http://www.takakaira.com/

Good Luck and Have Fun :)

zxracer1784
05-31-2002, 01:20 AM
Hello,
I'm sorry but I am pretty convinced that the Skylie engine swap can be done for less thatn 10 k or 8 k depending on what type of deals you get. I mean the engine can be bought for a max of 8k which is the bulk of the cost. Ya there is some custom work needed, specifically the cradle but it shouldn't cost too much. What I need to know is ALL of the custom work needed. I have a good idea of what needs to be done, but I want to make sure I get everything.

thank you

rockerdude
05-31-2002, 07:28 AM
look at it this way, if you have a rb26sett, you pretty much will break into the single digit with probably the same amount of money you will spend to make the SR run in the same time slip, the only difference is, the RB26 is monster, it will take out any car in the US even the Supra TT which seems to be the fastest legal import car in the US that is not an exotic car.

zxracer1784
05-31-2002, 12:00 PM
Ok guys,

I know many of you see the swap as impractical, but I think it can be done for a descent price and it may be somewhat practical. But that's not the point. I want the rb engine and I plan on getting. All I need is some help on the mechanical aspects and I'm asking for y'all to help.

Thankyou

Skyline240
06-06-2002, 12:35 AM
god damnit everybody always says that its too expensive to do the rb swap and say that its gonna cost arounf 15k to do. i did mine for only 7500 and 4 of that was the engine it self another 2 k for rb25 parts like tranny and oil pan, mounts. and the rest was for just misc. parts. theres really not of cutting ask people in australia and new zealand thats where i got a lot of help from like my cousins down there its been done quite a lot over there. oohh custom mounts not really you can use mounts from the rb25. also for aftermarket parts and stock, nismo parts they really arent expensive to buy if you network your self tell you what zxracer im going back to the philipines in about mabey a month i can get you parts straight from nismo japan pretty cheap all i will ask you to pay is the actuall price of the part which i will send you a listing and then shipping from california to where ever you live and then mabey a little extra for me. just email me or or aim me at lunitoons43. just tell me who you are when you message me.

Skyline240
06-06-2002, 12:46 AM
also what year 240 is it going in mine is a 95 240 (s14 type a lights) your easiest way of getting an rb into your car would be the rb20 its a older but still pumps out 210 on the crank so about 175-180 on the rear but that can easly be mod'd to get over 300 350just need to know what you want to do also parts for the rb20 are still available over seas since any of the rb series engine are still quite popular swaps. also jun and i belive hks have a 180sx (89-93 240sx here in the states) powered by an rb26dett and what ive heard that required a little more cutting then rb20 but not much. oh yeah as for traction its not that bad when i turned my bost to 16psi i had problems but i just turned it down to stock which i think is either 12 or 14 and was fine just had to get some better rubber. at first i was using the bfgoodrich g force then i just switched over to MT so if you need any answers about the swap just gimme a message

J SPEC SilEighty
06-06-2002, 09:27 PM
I'd like to see some pics of your engine bay Skyline240

cadet
06-06-2002, 10:25 PM
this swap is becoming pretty commonplace in New Zealand and Australia. usually the RB20 replaces a CA18 and is used in favour of a SR20 due to cost. RB's are capable of good power and sound nice but add a bit of weight up the front. if you are really keen i recommend you post on a Aussie or NZ Silvia Forum as there are members who will be able to help you.

Skyline240
06-07-2002, 04:37 PM
yeah im about to go pick up a new DC i broke my last one when i ran over it hehehe whoops. i might get a digital camcorder if i get the camcorder ill put up a movie of the car in action

J SPEC SilEighty
06-07-2002, 11:41 PM
Originally posted by Skyline240
yeah im about to go pick up a new DC i broke my last one when i ran over it hehehe whoops. i might get a digital camcorder if i get the camcorder ill put up a movie of the car in action

ok cool :cool:

what year is your 240 and which RB are you using?

Skyline240
06-08-2002, 01:23 AM
its a 95 240sx with the type a light i prefered this model because its easier to do the head and tail light conversion its a secret so if i put pictures up im gonna black em out the rb im usuing is from the r33 i wanted the r34 but those were harder to find most places you look at only carry rb26detts from the 32 and 34 yes rb26s came in the 32 i 2 years before the 33 came into production its from just a regular r33 not vspec so it only pumps out around 230 on the crank at stock boost but what i found was if i turn the boost up to .85 of a bar i get well at least 310 on the crank pretty good since if you do that with the 34 you get 333

Bean Bandit
06-08-2002, 06:57 AM
Originally posted by Skyline240
...its a secret so if i put pictures up im gonna black em out ... if i turn the boost up to .85 of a bar i get well at least 310 on the crank pretty good since if you do that with the 34 you get 333

:devil:

Skyline240
06-08-2002, 02:09 PM
I KNOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!:devil:

zxracer1784
06-08-2002, 07:25 PM
Thank you Skyline240. Finally someone who sees it my way. I really apreciate your posts. I might be interested in making a few deals with you on JDM parts.
Umm... guys I'm still looking for some sights with good prices on the RB engines. That Okinawaimportmotorsports.com was a good site, but I can't find anyway to order. So that presents a problem.
Lastly, Skyline240 and any others who can advise me, what did you do to fit the Rb in your engine bay. I'm hereing stuff about moving the firewall back (which I think is impossible but somebody told me to do that) and stuff about having to extend the front of the car to get everything to fit. Is that required or can I find my way around it? I know with a little bit of patience and so fiberglass work it wouldn't be a problem, but that's a real big hassel to go through.

Thank you

Skyline240
06-08-2002, 09:58 PM
you got to call okinawa or send them an email

brian@okinawaimportmotorsports.com
jeff@okinawaimportmotorsports.com

all that other crap about extending the front of the car is bullshit you can do it if youre loaded but i wouldnt recomend that. as fir the firewall not really i never even touched that.

in order for me to tell you more tell me what model 240 you are getting s13 s14 s15? also what type of rb do you want to get rb20det rb25det rb26dett

J SPEC SilEighty
06-08-2002, 10:05 PM
Originally posted by Skyline240
what model 240 you are getting s13 s14 s15?

there was no S15 240 :rolleyes:

J SPEC SilEighty
06-08-2002, 10:06 PM
Originally posted by Skyline240
its a 95 240sx

If it's a 95 then why does it say 97 under your name?

zxracer1784
06-09-2002, 02:55 AM
I'm going for the S14 and as far as the motor I'm lookin at the RB25. I think it would be easier to go to a rear wheel drive and the horse power and performance are than much worse. Also the money I save on the engine can easily go towards putting the horse power above 300 maybe even the high 300's. What did you have to do to the cradle on your swap. Also thanks for the info on Okinawa. Are they reliable? Do they sell good parts and engines?

Thank you

Skyline240
06-09-2002, 11:27 PM
because i crashed my old car. and got a new one. they did make a s15 240 they are called 240s here in the us but the s15 model was never produced here but in japan they were produced till this year

J SPEC SilEighty
06-10-2002, 11:31 AM
Originally posted by Skyline240
they did make a s15 240 they are called 240s here in the us but the s15 model was never produced here but in japan they were produced till this year

They are called silvias over in japan, not 240's. so they made an S15 silvia but no S15 240 sx

Skyline240
06-10-2002, 11:19 PM
i know that but there are a lot of people out there that dont know thqa a 180sx s13 s14 s15 silvia sr20 rb is if youre over in the united states we know them as 240sx those that have no knowledge of the real car dont quote me and try to tell me i dont know what im talking about i live half of the year in the philipines or in i think its chino with my cousin ive drivin each and every silvia model i know what im talking about every thread ive been on j spec you try and talk to me like i dont know what im talking about

-=ShOrTfUz=-
06-18-2002, 06:27 PM
sorry to burst ur bubble but u do not know what u r talking about. The us didnt make any 240's after '98. The Silvia S14 was the last style of 240sx. The Silvia S15 is newer than '98 so unless we include time travel........there is no Silvia S15 style 240sx ever made.

Skyline240
06-18-2002, 10:58 PM
regardless over here in the us the car was never refered to as a slivia only by those who know the origins of the car the US automotive industry label the car as a 240 i know they never made the s15 over here seriosuly what the fu-ck is everyone trying to talk shite to me it pisses me off i know the different types of nissan

Toxic
06-19-2002, 11:31 AM
Damn i'm jealous, i wish I had a skyline engine..

Skyline240, you live in the U.S.? Did your car pass emmissions?

zxracer1784
06-19-2002, 12:05 PM
Guys I have to agree with Skykline240. He never said or implied that there was a S15 built and sold in th US. You people are being nit picky. Everyday I hear people refer to 240SX's as S13 and S14 and I even hear them sa S14.5. Everytime I hear these I know exactly what they are talking about. Just to let you know the S14.5 is a S14 silvia converted to a S15. Anyways I think most of y'all are just being dicks.

lilskyline240
10-04-2005, 11:18 AM
If you really are interested in puttin a RB motor in a 240, i would personally go with the rb25det out of a 93+ skyline gts. it puts out 250hp to the crank which is about 220 to the rear wheels and unlike many people say, it is not a very hard swap. there are many shops out there that can do it for about 7k. i am in the process of doin this swap myself and almost complete. just a little bit of wiring to do and it should be good. I fought that if u realy want to do a RB swap get the Mckinney motor mounts and driveshaft, they are a life saver because they move the motor an inch and an a half down and back. gives u better clearance, and also shifts the weight in the right direction so its not too heavy in the nose like everyone is concerned about. There really is no custom fabrication required if u get those mounts. Mckinney motor sports also has downpipes and wiring harness's that u would need for ur swap.

lilskyline240

240SXSlideStar
10-04-2005, 11:43 AM
Thanks for reviving this 3 year old thread, buddy, we all appreciate it.

driftking777
10-04-2005, 04:16 PM
like i tell everyone on here...if your serious about an RB swap check on mckinneymotorsports...very reputable company specializing in RB swaps...they make custom mounts and brakets ect...sell the motors also. The reason most people buy or custom fab the engine cross member is becuase the RB25's do bolt up but they sit farther foward. The mckinney pieces sit father back on the firewall, thus giving you better weight distribution, ect ect...blah blah...and a properly done RB swap will cost around 10k...but do it how you want...you take short cuts and you know what your going to get...at least everyone else around here knows.

driftking777
10-04-2005, 04:17 PM
like i tell everyone on here...if your serious about an RB swap check on mckinneymotorsports...very reputable company specializing in RB swaps...they make custom mounts and brakets ect...sell the motors also. The reason most people buy or custom fab the engine cross member is becuase the RB25's do bolt up but they sit farther foward. The mckinney pieces sit father back on the firewall, thus giving you better weight distribution, ect ect...blah blah...and a properly done RB swap will cost around 10k...but do it how you want...you take short cuts and you know what your going to get...at least everyone else around here knows. oopps...just now noticed this is a old thread...CRAP!

Chuki_breath
10-04-2005, 09:04 PM
yea sweet. +1 for whoring.

lilskyline240
10-05-2005, 12:23 AM
i totally agree with u driftking, if u really want a clean swap, it will cost u bout 10k. unless u can get some deals and swap it in urself. Mckinney motor sports is the place to go to get all ur needs for the swap tho. I have 1 question tho, the clutch for the rb25 rwd tranny is the same as that of a 90-96 300zx right?? cuz all my research points me to a z32 clutch bein the same. is 90-96 300zx is a z32 right??

R.W.240
10-05-2005, 01:15 AM
i totally agree with u driftking, if u really want a clean swap, it will cost u bout 10k. unless u can get some deals and swap it in urself. Mckinney motor sports is the place to go to get all ur needs for the swap tho. I have 1 question tho, the clutch for the rb25 rwd tranny is the same as that of a 90-96 300zx right?? cuz all my research points me to a z32 clutch bein the same. is 90-96 300zx is a z32 right??

I believe that SCC said it did. They have the write-up in their tech section.

The Z32/RB25 Tranny is basically the same thing and the RB doesnt have a dual mass flywheel... So I would think it would.

SkylineUSA
10-05-2005, 01:17 AM
is 90-96 300zx is a z32 right??

Yes, they are the same car.

lilskyline240
10-05-2005, 08:19 AM
thanks guys.. i didnt want to be buyin the wrong clutch... everywhere i look they are using the nismo clutch or the exedy twin plate one which are very expensive....i was lookin at gettin an ACT stage 3, 6puck race clutch from the turbo z32.....do u think this would work just as well since im kinda on a tight budget and i cant spend over 1000 on just a clutch....

R.W.240
10-05-2005, 11:24 AM
I have never met any import owner that liked ACT.

lilskyline240
10-05-2005, 04:34 PM
then what clutch would u recomend for under lets say $600?

R.W.240
10-05-2005, 05:25 PM
Exedy Stage II. its 450$ for SR20

lilskyline240
10-05-2005, 09:01 PM
but i have a rb25 motor so isnt the clutch different? What about clutchnet? i have a clutchnet stage 3 in my integra and havent had a problem

Wundy30
12-18-2005, 09:10 PM
hey guys sorry to be of topic, but do any of you know the maximum standard boost produced by an rb20 det

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