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hellah fresh
11-16-2005, 11:40 PM
Ok my first question is... Super Charger V.S. Turbo Charger? I know turbo might have a little lag compared to the super charger... but what are th advantage and disadvantage of having one or the other?


Second question... ported intake manifold V.S. Aftermarker intake manifolds? Sorry for the dumb question but i just want to know some knowlege on what will give me better gains with my motor.

l_eclipse_l
11-17-2005, 01:01 AM
You will save gas with a turbo, because it only spools up at 3,500 rpm or w/e it is. Superchargers, to my understanding, are always running, therefore eat gas like crazy. You can also get more hp out of a turbo I believe.

imtheoneandonlyD
11-17-2005, 03:06 AM
turbo is easier to tune. For manifolds arent the aftermarket ones just ported anyway? Wouldnt that make them the same?

Whathits14
11-17-2005, 06:14 AM
Most superchargers have a bypass system so they do not boost when you aren't on the gas. A supercharger is driven off a belt which is driven by the engine, and uses power just to run the supercharger. Some superchargers take upwards of 80HP just to run, whereas turbochargers take no real HP to use. A turbo is placed in the exhaust path, so the exhaust forces the wheel to spin, and the faster it spins the more boost it will create. Boost is controlled by a wastegate, which will limit how fast the turbine turns. On the downside, turbos have "lag" whereas a supercharger builds up boost almost instantly. Turbos are also an assload cheaper for a good setup than a supercharging system. On small engines, I do not think superchargers are really worth it when there is the option to go turbo. How many 450 HP hondas do you see around running superchargers? As for getting more horsepower out of a turbocharger, well theoretically, yes, a turbo can make more HP, but there is always more lag with a bigger turbo. This is especially obvious in engines with smaller displacement. That is why TT v8s are totally badass, they spool turbos 60mm+ like nothing. Most aftermarket intake manifolds are sheet metal intake manifolds, and with a properly built 4g will add 40+ hp. Check out hahnracecraft.com for some reputable 2g n/a turbocharging systems for a great price.

hellah fresh
11-17-2005, 10:55 AM
Most superchargers have a bypass system so they do not boost when you aren't on the gas. A supercharger is driven off a belt which is driven by the engine, and uses power just to run the supercharger. Some superchargers take upwards of 80HP just to run, whereas turbochargers take no real HP to use. A turbo is placed in the exhaust path, so the exhaust forces the wheel to spin, and the faster it spins the more boost it will create. Boost is controlled by a wastegate, which will limit how fast the turbine turns. On the downside, turbos have "lag" whereas a supercharger builds up boost almost instantly. Turbos are also an assload cheaper for a good setup than a supercharging system. On small engines, I do not think superchargers are really worth it when there is the option to go turbo. How many 450 HP hondas do you see around running superchargers? As for getting more horsepower out of a turbocharger, well theoretically, yes, a turbo can make more HP, but there is always more lag with a bigger turbo. This is especially obvious in engines with smaller displacement. That is why TT v8s are totally badass, they spool turbos 60mm+ like nothing. Most aftermarket intake manifolds are sheet metal intake manifolds, and with a properly built 4g will add 40+ hp. Check out hahnracecraft.com for some reputable 2g n/a turbocharging systems for a great price.


Thanks for the info. The reason why i asked this questions is because usually when you street race... most likely the car with a super charger will take the jump which can cause him to have an easy kill...? As for the intake manifold the reason why i asked that is because there is a website that has a porting service for $200 where you send your own intakemani to get ported V.S. the aftermarker manifolds... i wanted to see which worth the money. I have a 420a in my car and i was thinking about putting a 2.2 stroker kit so therefore i can run a bigger turbo with less lag...

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