2000 Sunfire No DTRL
Satanspet
11-06-2005, 02:36 PM
ok guys so i just bought my 2000 sunfire and after some extensive work its road worthy but heres the kicker, there is still one problem i can't seem to fix, when i start up the car and put it in gear the day time running light (DTRL), light flickers on the dash a bunch of times then goes into a service light, the headlights at this time also flicker and shut off, i have low and high beems but no DTRL and its sorta frustrating, Ne thoughts? thanks, also i forgot my high beams do not work either... thanks again
Satanspet
Satanspet
quake61
11-06-2005, 05:16 PM
ok guys so i just bought my 2000 sunfire and after some extensive work its road worthy but heres the kicker, there is still one problem i can't seem to fix, when i start up the car and put it in gear the day time running light (DTRL), light flickers on the dash a bunch of times then goes into a service light, the headlights at this time also flicker and shut off, i have low and high beems but no DTRL and its sorta frustrating, Ne thoughts? thanks, also i forgot my high beams do not work either... thanks again
Satanspet
the same thing happened to me u have a burnout head lamp
or the relay is burned, but im sure is the lamp burned out
i checked the relay and was ok until i realized was the lamp
check em and lemme know good luck
Satanspet
the same thing happened to me u have a burnout head lamp
or the relay is burned, but im sure is the lamp burned out
i checked the relay and was ok until i realized was the lamp
check em and lemme know good luck
Satanspet
11-07-2005, 05:02 PM
Well I replaced both headlight bulbs - no joy. My parts store does not stock the relay, and I would have to go through the dealer for it. Can you tell me where, and how to check the relay?
THanks again for all your help
the same thing happened to me u have a burnout head lamp
or the relay is burned, but im sure is the lamp burned out
i checked the relay and was ok until i realized was the lamp
check em and lemme know good luck
THanks again for all your help
the same thing happened to me u have a burnout head lamp
or the relay is burned, but im sure is the lamp burned out
i checked the relay and was ok until i realized was the lamp
check em and lemme know good luck
quake61
11-07-2005, 06:36 PM
Well I replaced both headlight bulbs - no joy. My parts store does not stock the relay, and I would have to go through the dealer for it. Can you tell me where, and how to check the relay?
THanks again for all your help
the relay is in the left side of the dashboard
driver side take it out and get an ohmeter and check for continuity
or get 2 wires connect them to the battery negative and positive
and look for the 2 pins in the relay
connect both wires and see if it closses if it does then is not the relay
but after that only a fuse could be
be carefull in the test tho
THanks again for all your help
the relay is in the left side of the dashboard
driver side take it out and get an ohmeter and check for continuity
or get 2 wires connect them to the battery negative and positive
and look for the 2 pins in the relay
connect both wires and see if it closses if it does then is not the relay
but after that only a fuse could be
be carefull in the test tho
Satanspet
11-08-2005, 05:12 PM
Found the relay - thanks. Have checked it completely as described - it is dead. In fact the lights all act the same without the relay in, as with it in - I am going to visit my GM Dealer tomorrow and hopefully they stock the relay - I am cautiously optomistic that it is the route of this problem. Again many thanks for you help - I will let you know how I make out
quake61
11-08-2005, 08:17 PM
Found the relay - thanks. Have checked it completely as described - it is dead. In fact the lights all act the same without the relay in, as with it in - I am going to visit my GM Dealer tomorrow and hopefully they stock the relay - I am cautiously optomistic that it is the route of this problem. Again many thanks for you help - I will let you know how I make out
good im glad i was of help and yes let me know
good im glad i was of help and yes let me know
Satanspet
11-09-2005, 03:15 PM
good im glad i was of help and yes let me know
well the relay didn't work either, and this time when i put the part in, it was a little darker and i also noticed that the drivers side headlight is WAY dimmer than the passengers side... that probably ties in with it all also, i am at a loss for ideas at this point, its definatly not the bulbs, fuses, or the relay at this point do u have n e other thoughts?
Thanks
Satanspet
well the relay didn't work either, and this time when i put the part in, it was a little darker and i also noticed that the drivers side headlight is WAY dimmer than the passengers side... that probably ties in with it all also, i am at a loss for ideas at this point, its definatly not the bulbs, fuses, or the relay at this point do u have n e other thoughts?
Thanks
Satanspet
quake61
11-09-2005, 05:33 PM
well the relay didn't work either, and this time when i put the part in, it was a little darker and i also noticed that the drivers side headlight is WAY dimmer than the passengers side... that probably ties in with it all also, i am at a loss for ideas at this point, its definatly not the bulbs, fuses, or the relay at this point do u have n e other thoughts?
Thanks
Satanspet
well now u can go check grounds or the headlamp connector
u using stock lamps? or aftermarket?
if u using aftermarket maybe is getting wires too hot and might be a problem
if not check grounds to make sure they r tight
also check the connectors maybe they melt or they rusted
and not making good contact
sometimes when lights get dimmer is due to lack of ground
lets start from there
Thanks
Satanspet
well now u can go check grounds or the headlamp connector
u using stock lamps? or aftermarket?
if u using aftermarket maybe is getting wires too hot and might be a problem
if not check grounds to make sure they r tight
also check the connectors maybe they melt or they rusted
and not making good contact
sometimes when lights get dimmer is due to lack of ground
lets start from there
Satanspet
11-09-2005, 08:20 PM
well now u can go check grounds or the headlamp connector
u using stock lamps? or aftermarket?
if u using aftermarket maybe is getting wires too hot and might be a problem
if not check grounds to make sure they r tight
also check the connectors maybe they melt or they rusted
and not making good contact
sometimes when lights get dimmer is due to lack of ground
lets start from there
well i know for sure that atleast 1 ground is bad and that is directly off of the relay, but god knows where that leads, and i am hoping u are god in this case lol cuz i dont really want to rip my dash to pieces or the steering column only to find out it grounds in the engine compartment, do u know off hand where that particular ground leads? example...
relay: 1 1
1 2 1 pin 2 = ground, what i did do test this was gabbeb a copper wire into the socket and with an ohmeter went to what i thought was ground, under the steering wheel more up around the pedals and checked to see if that conection was there, and nothing showed up on the meter, and yes the meter is definatly good. i dunno at this point i'm not exactly an electrician. lol
u using stock lamps? or aftermarket?
if u using aftermarket maybe is getting wires too hot and might be a problem
if not check grounds to make sure they r tight
also check the connectors maybe they melt or they rusted
and not making good contact
sometimes when lights get dimmer is due to lack of ground
lets start from there
well i know for sure that atleast 1 ground is bad and that is directly off of the relay, but god knows where that leads, and i am hoping u are god in this case lol cuz i dont really want to rip my dash to pieces or the steering column only to find out it grounds in the engine compartment, do u know off hand where that particular ground leads? example...
relay: 1 1
1 2 1 pin 2 = ground, what i did do test this was gabbeb a copper wire into the socket and with an ohmeter went to what i thought was ground, under the steering wheel more up around the pedals and checked to see if that conection was there, and nothing showed up on the meter, and yes the meter is definatly good. i dunno at this point i'm not exactly an electrician. lol
quake61
11-11-2005, 07:30 PM
well i know for sure that atleast 1 ground is bad and that is directly off of the relay, but god knows where that leads, and i am hoping u are god in this case lol cuz i dont really want to rip my dash to pieces or the steering column only to find out it grounds in the engine compartment, do u know off hand where that particular ground leads? example...
relay: 1 1
1 2 1 pin 2 = ground, what i did do test this was gabbeb a copper wire into the socket and with an ohmeter went to what i thought was ground, under the steering wheel more up around the pedals and checked to see if that conection was there, and nothing showed up on the meter, and yes the meter is definatly good. i dunno at this point i'm not exactly an electrician. lol
well to start is a good thing u found out a ground is faulty
now what u did was good tracing that ground now, dont give up
more electrical test r a pain in the rear, meanning will take some time the first time
if is a ground going to terelay meanning.. the relay has no ground
just get a piece of wire and conect it to any metal
then connect the other side to the relay pin thats supouse to have a ground
see if there is any diference, ( but make sure that relay's pin is supose to have a ground)
ill see if i can get a schematic diagram for u good luck
relay: 1 1
1 2 1 pin 2 = ground, what i did do test this was gabbeb a copper wire into the socket and with an ohmeter went to what i thought was ground, under the steering wheel more up around the pedals and checked to see if that conection was there, and nothing showed up on the meter, and yes the meter is definatly good. i dunno at this point i'm not exactly an electrician. lol
well to start is a good thing u found out a ground is faulty
now what u did was good tracing that ground now, dont give up
more electrical test r a pain in the rear, meanning will take some time the first time
if is a ground going to terelay meanning.. the relay has no ground
just get a piece of wire and conect it to any metal
then connect the other side to the relay pin thats supouse to have a ground
see if there is any diference, ( but make sure that relay's pin is supose to have a ground)
ill see if i can get a schematic diagram for u good luck
quake61
11-11-2005, 07:39 PM
well to start is a good thing u found out a ground is faulty
now what u did was good tracing that ground now, dont give up
more electrical test r a pain in the rear, meanning will take some time the first time
if is a ground going to terelay meanning.. the relay has no ground
just get a piece of wire and conect it to any metal
then connect the other side to the relay pin thats supouse to have a ground
see if there is any diference, ( but make sure that relay's pin is supose to have a ground)
ill see if i can get a schematic diagram for u good luck
look i found the threads doing a search here
look at em and maybe will give u an idea
http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/search.php?searchid=1262990
now what u did was good tracing that ground now, dont give up
more electrical test r a pain in the rear, meanning will take some time the first time
if is a ground going to terelay meanning.. the relay has no ground
just get a piece of wire and conect it to any metal
then connect the other side to the relay pin thats supouse to have a ground
see if there is any diference, ( but make sure that relay's pin is supose to have a ground)
ill see if i can get a schematic diagram for u good luck
look i found the threads doing a search here
look at em and maybe will give u an idea
http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/search.php?searchid=1262990
Satanspet
11-15-2005, 08:02 PM
look i found the threads doing a search here
look at em and maybe will give u an idea
http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/search.php?searchid=1262990
ok so heres the final verdict, not wanting to tackle a wiring problem, i headed down to teh garage taht has a good rep around here. they had
it for the day to fix wiring and get it saftied, they said in all they replaced 5 coroded wires that were completely shit and they also said someone else before i owned it had done some half assed job fixing them previously. i guess he ran both lights off of the same wire and long story short i get the car tomorrow due to a right tie rod being shit also then shes all mine :P thanks a lot this wont be the last u guys here from me :P
thanks again
Satanspet
look at em and maybe will give u an idea
http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/search.php?searchid=1262990
ok so heres the final verdict, not wanting to tackle a wiring problem, i headed down to teh garage taht has a good rep around here. they had
it for the day to fix wiring and get it saftied, they said in all they replaced 5 coroded wires that were completely shit and they also said someone else before i owned it had done some half assed job fixing them previously. i guess he ran both lights off of the same wire and long story short i get the car tomorrow due to a right tie rod being shit also then shes all mine :P thanks a lot this wont be the last u guys here from me :P
thanks again
Satanspet
quake61
11-16-2005, 05:05 PM
ok so heres the final verdict, not wanting to tackle a wiring problem, i headed down to teh garage taht has a good rep around here. they had
it for the day to fix wiring and get it saftied, they said in all they replaced 5 coroded wires that were completely shit and they also said someone else before i owned it had done some half assed job fixing them previously. i guess he ran both lights off of the same wire and long story short i get the car tomorrow due to a right tie rod being shit also then shes all mine :P thanks a lot this wont be the last u guys here from me :P
thanks again
Satanspet
yw thats why we here ,for feel free to drop in
it for the day to fix wiring and get it saftied, they said in all they replaced 5 coroded wires that were completely shit and they also said someone else before i owned it had done some half assed job fixing them previously. i guess he ran both lights off of the same wire and long story short i get the car tomorrow due to a right tie rod being shit also then shes all mine :P thanks a lot this wont be the last u guys here from me :P
thanks again
Satanspet
yw thats why we here ,for feel free to drop in
z24owner
11-24-2005, 11:31 AM
Wow, I wish I'd seen your original post earlier. I have a 2001 z-24 that did the EXACT same thing. I just took it to the dealer. (Didn't trust my own ability to find and correct the problem) He found the problem in about one hour. Replaced a wiring harness (about $50) and said that one of the wires was hooked up wrong. My car had been in an accident and had some front end body work done before I bought it.
quake61
11-24-2005, 03:06 PM
Wow, I wish I'd seen your original post earlier. I have a 2001 z-24 that did the EXACT same thing. I just took it to the dealer. (Didn't trust my own ability to find and correct the problem) He found the problem in about one hour. Replaced a wiring harness (about $50) and said that one of the wires was hooked up wrong. My car had been in an accident and had some front end body work done before I bought it.
yeah ive seen in this forum so many times that a wiring harness is it to blame
but as we all know we have to make sure all other components r working properly to avoid extra buying of parts
im glad ur problem is fixed see ya laterz
yeah ive seen in this forum so many times that a wiring harness is it to blame
but as we all know we have to make sure all other components r working properly to avoid extra buying of parts
im glad ur problem is fixed see ya laterz
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