Guy's I know this is the Blazer forum, but you guys know what your talking about...

I have a 1997 Mustang GT 5-speed with 40k miles, after i start the car, it makes this awful clanking/ticking noise for like 2 seconds then stops and idles/runs great, there is only 40k miles on it. It will stop doing this when the car is fully warmed up. It started doing this one morning while in an angry mood, i had just started the car and did a small burnout, ever since then it has made this noise after it starts. to me the noise sounds like its coming from inside the engine...Any ideas guys?

I have a 1997 Mustang GT 5-speed with 40k miles, after i start the car, it makes this awful clanking/ticking noise for like 2 seconds then stops and idles/runs great, there is only 40k miles on it. It will stop doing this when the car is fully warmed up. It started doing this one morning while in an angry mood, i had just started the car and did a small burnout, ever since then it has made this noise after it starts. to me the noise sounds like its coming from inside the engine...Any ideas guys?

Well the biggest problem you have is it's a Ford :rofl: :nono:

However, Have a buddy start the engine cold with you under the hood. My guess would be that you have a accessory making some noise. Was this one of those 5,000rpm for 500 ft burnouts? My buddies old 90 GT did some awesome ones.

I have a 1997 Mustang GT 5-speed with 40k miles, after i start the car, it makes this awful clanking/ticking noise for like 2 seconds then stops and idles/runs great, there is only 40k miles on it. It will stop doing this when the car is fully warmed up. It started doing this one morning while in an angry mood, i had just started the car and did a small burnout, ever since then it has made this noise after it starts. to me the noise sounds like its coming from inside the engine...Any ideas guys?

Sounds like you are using a Fram oil filter which is allowing the oil to drain back into the oil pan and therefore causing you dry starts.

What oil and filter do you use?

ya i bet thats the problem, my friend said the same thing...

what do you suggest?

Well i know they make AC Delco filters for it but i guess your not open to that.Maybe the Motorcraft filter at Wal-Mart or a Wix filter

Motorcraft, Wix, Mobil1 are all good oil filters.

Hopefully you are using the proper 5w30 or 10w30 for your car.

Sounds like you are using a Fram oil filter which is allowing the oil to drain back into the oil pan and therefore causing you dry starts.
That was the first thing that came to mind, while I was reading it.

Gotta love FRAM! :rolleyes:

i have owned few fords and i may be wrong but figured id sugest the starter. on fords thay use a gear that disingages when the engen reaches a certen rpm that gear may be hanging up a bit on cold starts the burnout may be a coencidenc.[sorry cant spell]. this is just a sugestion but i thought id through it out their.

thanks man, that sounds like a possibility too, but it sounds like its coming from the inside of the back of the engine near the fire wall

thanks man, that sounds like a possibility too, but it sounds like its coming from the inside of the back of the engine near the fire wall

What oil and filter are you using?

That clanking is no oil/oil pressure in your engine. It takes a couple of seconds for oil to get through the engine. Like everyone said, what oil filter are you using, and what oil are you using...?

haha, ok let me check my last oil change...

ok...

Looking at the bill, they put in Valvoline 5W30 (VA5W30B)and a Valvoline Oil Filter (V047)...

Mean anything to anyone?

if it is your starter the sound may come from near the fire wall the problum with ths is when you did your burnout you may have shifted your engine and transmishion slitly causing the starter to bind slitly on the flywheel if this is the case i would check the bellhousing bolts to make shure thay are touqad to specks if thay arnt thin you may have a real problum i have had this happen before on a different car was your transmithion replaced resently. if it were a dodge or chevy i would sugest a missing shim unfoutunatly ford at least the ones i owned dident use shimes if you decide to check the bell housing i would check the bolt holes for egg shaping but if its only shifted once that may not be a problum relining the engine and trans and re toqing the bolts should fix the problum.

Another question, has the car been doing this recently(like last oil change), or has it been doing it longer than that?

I would still change the oil filter again. This might be a defective filter.

I would still change the oil filter again. This might be a defective filter.
I concur it is only a couple bucks and a quarter quart of oil.

if it is your starter the sound may come from near the fire wall the problum with ths is when you did your burnout you may have shifted your engine and transmishion slitly causing the starter to bind slitly on the flywheel if this is the case i would check the bellhousing bolts to make shure thay are touqad to specks if thay arnt thin you may have a real problum i have had this happen before on a different car was your transmithion replaced resently. if it were a dodge or chevy i would sugest a missing shim unfoutunatly ford at least the ones i owned dident use shimes if you decide to check the bell housing i would check the bolt holes for egg shaping but if its only shifted once that may not be a problum relining the engine and trans and re toqing the bolts should fix the problum.

if all that was the case, wouldnt it do that all the time when you start the car?

It only does it when its cold...

If i change the filter again, is that valvoline filter a good choice?

if all that was the case, wouldnt it do that all the time when you start the car?

It only does it when its cold...

If i change the filter again, is that valvoline filter a good choice?

It is seeing it is made by Purloator.

I would swap on a Motorcraft from Ford just for this time.

What you might have is a defective Anti-Drainback valve.

How long does this knocking go on for again?

yes it would bind when its cold . and probebly wouldent do it all the time. if you are going the filter route i would go with the filter blazerLT sugested. how long dose it make this sound dose it vary each time or is it the same each time. also is it a thudding sound or a knocking sound if its a thudding sound is the car shaking very hard while its making the noise?

yes it would bind when its cold . and probebly wouldent do it all the time. if you are going the filter route i would go with the filter blazerLT sugested. how long dose it make this sound dose it vary each time or is it the same each time. also is it a thudding sound or a knocking sound if its a thudding sound is the car shaking very hard while its making the noise?


The Knocking/Clicking/Clanking goes on for no more than 2-3 seconds... After it runs perfect, and when warm it doesnt do it...when left in a heated garage, it wont do it... Only when starting absolutley cold it seems

The Knocking/Clicking/Clanking goes on for no more than 2-3 seconds... After it runs perfect, and when warm it doesnt do it...when left in a heated garage, it wont do it... Only when starting absolutley cold it seems

Yea, you have a lubrication problem for sure.

I would change the problem asap and just to be sure after you should have the oil pressure checked, you might have a plugged pump screen or a weak oil pump overall.

The filter is the cheapest first step.

Even though the valvoline is a good filter, all filters have their duds from time to time.

Is it bad to start your engine like that?

Is it bad to start your engine like that?

80-90% of engine wear comes from starting.

When you have improper lubrication, it makes that damage even worse per startup.

yes i agree thats got to be a lube problum. oil isnot curculating fast enough during startup. this can caus searious dammage if it isnt fixed.

It is seeing it is made by Purloator.

I would swap on a Motorcraft from Ford just for this time.

What you might have is a defective Anti-Drainback valve.

How long does this knocking go on for again?


What and where is a anti - drainback valve?

http://rsx.freewebpage.org/images/PURO-PREMPLUS-011.jpg

It is a valve in the filter which allows oil in, but doesn't allow it to flow back out where it entered the filter when the engine shuts off.

This keeps the filter full and the oil in the top end.

Sweet, thanks man... I went back to the oil change shop yesterday and explained my problem, they were like: Yeah ive never heard of the oil filter being the problem with cold starts and the noise your car is making... I was like well i want a new filter put on because the guys at AF told me to try this first, hes like uh ok... So this morning i started it up ice cold, no noise haha so thanks a bunch for that... also there was a small puddle of oil where the filter is this morning, but i think that was just over flow from where they changed the filter

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Sweet, thanks man... I went back to the oil change shop yesterday and explained my problem, they were like: Yeah ive never heard of the oil filter being the problem with cold starts and the noise your car is making... I was like well i want a new filter put on because the guys at AF told me to try this first, hes like uh ok... So this morning i started it up ice cold, no noise haha so thanks a bunch for that... also there was a small puddle of oil where the filter is this morning, but i think that was just over flow from where they changed the filter

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Go and make sure they put the filter on tight and make sure they didn't put the filter on overtop of an old gasket that ripped off from an old oil filter.

Sweet, thanks man... I went back to the oil change shop yesterday and explained my problem, they were like: Yeah ive never heard of the oil filter being the problem with cold starts and the noise your car is making... I was like well i want a new filter put on because the guys at AF told me to try this first, hes like uh ok... So this morning i started it up ice cold, no noise haha so thanks a bunch for that... also there was a small puddle of oil where the filter is this morning, but i think that was just over flow from where they changed the filter

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Glad to hear that your up and running again. My Partner has a Ford Truck and had the same basic problem. His problem turned out to be missing/broken studs/nuts that hold the exhaust manifold onto the head. The back two on the passenger's side were missing and would cause thr manifold to clatter everytime he started it up. The noise on his truck only lasted for a few seconds then would quit. If your noise returns, look to see if all of the nuts/studs are still where they belong.

Hope this helps.

Rick

I had this happen after going through several starts, and in one of my mustangs it happened when I stored it for 9 months without driving it... it vanished under load, and when engaged in drive, got loud when put it in neutral or reverse, and kept coming back as I was decelerating (automatic with shift kit) using the transmission as a brake. It IS the starter, and the way it sits in it's mounts that is a problem. Sometimes after a starter/solenoid malfunction where the starter engages, this is an annoying problem because something is bent. There was also a round ring clip that went missing on the shaft the engagement gear on the starter slides back and forth on, causing the started to just rub a touch to the flexplate/flywheel. Problem went away when I installed a Proform Starter (260 ft/lbs starting torque, aftermarket, MUCH better than original or original reman.)




thanks man, that sounds like a possibility too, but it sounds like its coming from the inside of the back of the engine near the fire wall