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no power windows or wipers or interior lightsunclerudy 10-24-2005, 04:42 PM HI: All of a sudden I don't have wipers, power windows or interior lights and chime. I have check all the fuses and they are fine although not all are getting power to them. I have also checked as many relays as possible. Does anyone know where I might look for this problem on my 1996 Explorer XLT ????? UncleRudy exploded99 10-25-2005, 04:17 PM The GEM module behinf the radio is involved in all those functions. Not common for them to fail, but you can probably verify by checking your four wheel drive - if it won't work either this might be your problem. GEM = General Electronics Module CTM= Central Timer Module They are one unit. The GEM/CTM controls the following features: wiper/washer (front/rear), warning chime, battery saver illuminated entry and courtesy lamps driver one touch down power window (GEM only) accessory delay 4 wheel drive (GEM only) Dealer can check codes to verify. These are codes specific to the GEM circuits - only the dealer or a good shop will have equipment to read them. unclerudy 10-26-2005, 11:20 AM That is great advise. I will check it right now and let you know how I do. Thank you for your time. UncleRudy unclerudy 10-26-2005, 05:19 PM My 4 wheel drive doesn't work so I think we are in the right place. That part is very expensive ($359) so I want to make sure there isn't something causing that to pop. Any idea???? exploded99 10-27-2005, 12:59 AM My 4 wheel drive doesn't work so I think we are in the right place. That part is very expensive ($359) so I want to make sure there isn't something causing that to pop. Any idea???? Ford uses a new star generation tester to pull and read the codes from the GEM. I believe a few shops have equipment that can read those codes - I think that is the only test which will tell you for sure whether its bad. There are a ton of circuits related to the GEM and I hate to say replace it without checking the codes first. But, since you have a 96, there are lots of rollovers in the junkyards. If you match the part number, you should be able to pull one from a rollover for 1/4 the new price or less. They rarely fail - a used one s/b ok. Thats probably about the same price as a diagnostic fee at Ford. unclerudy 10-27-2005, 05:04 PM [QUOTE=exploded99]But, since you have a 96, there are lots of rollovers in the junkyards. [QUOTE] Now that is funny!!! I was thinking of doing just that. I had auto zone check my codes because my check engine light has been on for a year, but they said it was something to do with the catalytic converter or a vacuum hose. Could these codes still be read somewhere else??? I apprecaite your help with this. UncleRudy exploded99 10-27-2005, 05:13 PM Autozone reads codes that set your check engine light. Those are powertrain or P type codes. Your GEM circuit sets B type codes which cannot be read by regular code scanners. A good shop may have the equipment to read B type codes - you will have to pay a diagnostic fee in all likelyhood. This could still be a wiring issue as opposed to a GEM module issue - B33p3r 10-27-2005, 09:51 PM One other thing you can try is the "Battery Saver Relay". I believe these items are all tied to it. The tell all I belive would be the 4 wheel drive. Are you not getting a "light" saying your in 4 wheel drive or is it actually not going into 4 wheel drive? Check the relay regardless. It's cheaper than the GEM. The relay is in the vicinity of the GEM behind the center of the dash. unclerudy 10-28-2005, 01:24 PM Ok thank you both. I will try that today. I think I will eventually find it. I did have a small accident which ripped off my passenger mirror which I had replaced right away. That remote is working fine, but I wonder if anything got pinched while they had the door off. Everything worked fine after until a couple of days. Maybe it is not related. UncleRudy unclerudy 11-09-2005, 10:33 PM Thank you to everyone. GEM was the problem. I got a junk one and everything is working great. Thank you UncleRudy vBulletin®, Copyright ©2009, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
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