The 2003 Tiburon certainly looks nice and sporty, of course, could you expect anything else that has been copied from the amazing Ferrari 456?

Apart from that the Tiburon isn´t good: some important magazine says about the Tiburon:

´This is a machine of unrefined flavors,
The cockpit smells of unpleasant chemicals,
The doors slam with a junky note,
The ears and the seat of the pants report a heavy-footed ride.
The interior at cruising speeds feels with a dull roar rather than mechanical music.
Lots of impact noise up from the pavement.
The steering is lifeless and lacking in the feel of precision that makes a great sporting car.
The gearbox requires heavy effort.
The lever motion is trusty. We always grabbed the right gear BUT the action is not fun.
The engine lacks thrills.
It peaks fairly low, far below the 6500 rpm redline, and offers no encouragement above 5000.
None of us liked the interior.
The seats are supportive but lacking all traces of plushness.
We noticed small riples in the door stampings and elsewhere on the exterior, a sign of unsophisticated dies in the manufacturing plant.
The Tiburon is priced where it belongs (cheap)
It doesn´t comes with all-season tires like its competitors (It can´t go on the snow).
The rear seat comfort and space with 2 passengers are worst than average. Same goes for the ease of entry/exit (3 out of 10) ´´
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In conclusion this is a car that just can´t be compared to real sports coupes like the Celica, Acura RSX, Mitsubishi Eclipse, VW GTI, etc..........

This is one magazine's opinion. If you only look at what one person says then that is an uninformed opinion. Don't judge by just one article.

I've heard bad reviews and I've heard alot of good ones...your point?
Its all about opinion...and alot of those things you mentioned aren't in my car... :flipa:

So I'm interested in hearing which version of the car they tested and if it was a retail version or a demo model that often comes out a few months before the retail ones and tend to have bugs in them.
All the reviews I've been reading about the Tiburon in a variety of mags have all had good things to say about the car and are shocked that its a Hyundai. One even made comparisons between the demo car they got and the retail one they tried a few months later and were stunned it was the same car. Noting great improvment in handling, engine response, and comfort. Its been getting alot of very good reviews over here.

hands down people it's a HYUNDAI. sure, they've advanced and improved since the first days, but it''s still a HYUNDAI. the reason they offer a 100k warranty is because it's a HYUNDAI. it's a pretty car and i did test drive it before purchased my car, but it really didn't compare to the other cars i drove. even the mp3 felt better and it was cheaper. i would go w/a civic before i got the tiburon. but damn it's a pretty car.

OMG
tiburon sucks man? what the hell
just get a freaking twin turbo..
u dont noe wut ur talking about.
the koreans have made dat car if there life depended on it.
tibs are getting betta and betta

lol

and how do u propose to put a twin turbo into a tiburon?? lol, i'd like to see that one become something in the everyday market. and i don't know what i'm talking about? that engine can't take anything more.

Originally posted by itsmeek
lol

and how do u propose to put a twin turbo into a tiburon?? lol, i'd like to see that one become something in the everyday market. and i don't know what i'm talking about? that engine can't take anything more.

Umm..yeah..you really know what you're talking about here buddy. Korea has MANY tibs running with not only 150 shots of nitrous on stock internals, but there are also many tibs running in excess of 800 horses (stock crank) and there are a bunch of twin turbo tibs as well. The delta 6 on the 3rd gen tibs can't take as much power, but the I4's can handle more than enough to surprise alot of people.

And as far as that magazine goes that wrote that bad review. It's pretty funny that you found that, because if oyu look at Car 7 Driver, and Modern Automotive, they both have given the 3rd gen tibs nothing props. Also, look in Import Tuner, SCC, and Import Racer. All 3 magazines have 3rd gen tibs to do custom build ups on them. Also, all 3 mags have advertisements on the new tibs, and in Import Tuner, they have the "You Build it, You Win It" contest where you get to build a custom a tib and then win it. Also, APC (horrible company, but still...) and Modern Image, Quantem Tec, AEM, and Blitz all have 3rd gen tibs to do custom build ups as well. Has Hyundai made it into the mainstream...maybe not now, but it sure as hell is getting there.

OH yeah..and one other thing...as much as I hate Fast & Furious, go and check out the sequal when it comes out because you'll be pretty surprised to see a few Hyundais in that movie. How do I know that? Because Craig Liberman (the race consultant) and a friend of mine from Florida who has a custom turboed 1st gen is going to pick out cars for the movie together.

You want more info? Then check out www.teamsr.org

Originally posted by TibOwner


Umm..yeah..you really know what you're talking about here buddy. Korea has MANY tibs running with not only 150 shots of nitrous on stock internals, but there are also many tibs running in excess of 800 horses (stock crank) and there are a bunch of twin turbo tibs as well. The delta 6 on the 3rd gen tibs can't take as much power, but the I4's can handle more than enough to surprise alot of people.

And as far as that magazine goes that wrote that bad review. It's pretty funny that you found that, because if oyu look at Car 7 Driver, and Modern Automotive, they both have given the 3rd gen tibs nothing props. Also, look in Import Tuner, SCC, and Import Racer. All 3 magazines have 3rd gen tibs to do custom build ups on them. Also, all 3 mags have advertisements on the new tibs, and in Import Tuner, they have the "You Build it, You Win It" contest where you get to build a custom a tib and then win it. Also, APC (horrible company, but still...) and Modern Image, Quantem Tec, AEM, and Blitz all have 3rd gen tibs to do custom build ups as well. Has Hyundai made it into the mainstream...maybe not now, but it sure as hell is getting there.

OH yeah..and one other thing...as much as I hate Fast & Furious, go and check out the sequal when it comes out because you'll be pretty surprised to see a few Hyundais in that movie. How do I know that? Because Craig Liberman (the race consultant) and a friend of mine from Florida who has a custom turboed 1st gen is going to pick out cars for the movie together.

You want more info? Then check out www.teamsr.org

lol i've also seen a twin engined tiburon. i never said you couldn't, i meant at what cost???? it's obvious you can make a yugo a 9 second car, but at WHAT COST. i give hyundai alot of respect and I admire the way they've moved up, but w/alot less money and headaches u can make a honda, acura, toyota, nissan go faster for cheaper, and it'll last longer.

Rrrriiiiggghhttt....what ever helps ya sleep at night. You can buy complete base line turbo or supercharger kits for $1900 for the tibs that will put them right in the same ctegory as Eclipse GST's. And with a little extra money to upgrade the kits, any tib would be right up there in the 350 to 450 horsepower range. An as far as it lasting, HA HA....are you telling me that an Eclipse GST would out last a Tib? Or a Honda with boost would out last a Hyundai? LMAO....whatever dreamer. Every single DSM breaks down due to the glass tranny's, and Honda's would blow up over time with that kind of power under the hood. There has never been a Tib that blew it's crank or cracked it's block or screwed up it's tranny due to having alot of power.

For every modification that you can do to a Honda, or Mitsu, or Acura or whatever, you can do the same exact thing to a Hyundai and the price range will be identical. But the one thing that will set the Hyundai apart is that the engine will last alot longer. The reason why you and so many other people say Hyundai is junk is because of this:

Back in the day when Hyundai got it's reputation for being a POS, it wasn't Hyundai's fault. It was MITSU's fault. Yes, you heard me right. It was Mitsu who was building and designing the engines and tranny's for Hyundai. The engines all blew and sucked donkey balls, and because of Mitsu, Hyundai received a bad rep. Now that Hyundai is designing their own stuff, and has been for the last few years, they have started to out perform other big name car manufacturers out there. So before you start flaming Hyundai or any other type of car at that, do your homework and learn something other that jumping on the "Flame" bandwagon. ;)

dude,

give it up. your comparing a friggin HYUNDAI to a HONDA, and saying it's a better car??? Is that why the only way they can sell anything is to offer a 100k warranty?? Where has anyone that knows anything about cars (obviously not you, you purchased a HYUNDAI) said that a HYUNDAI is even comparable to a HONDA. It's ok that you made a terrible choice when you chose the HYUNDAI over the HONDA or MITSU or NISSAN or TOYOTA. I can go over thousands of cars that have 400+ hp after 10k+ spent on them too, but when it comes down to it, the average person would be smart enough NOT to buy a piece of shit HYUNDAI. Btw if you want to take this thread somewhere that it'll get more hits, post a subject HYUNDAI vs HONDA or any other company and lets see where it heads.

Ok itsmeek you obviously have no clue what your talking about because i owned a gsx and it broke down all of the time and I own a civic with an integra ls swap and that breaks down too. Theres no way that hyundai would give out a 10 year 100,000 mile warranty if their engines wouldnt hold up. And the other guy is right about the civic or integra engines not being able to hold the boost cause if I slapped a turbo on my engine it would blow in no time at all and the same with civic engines cause I know people who have done that. so before you get all upset on someone knocking civics and tegs maybe you should get the facts first.

Some people have such incredible brand loyalty and will fight to the death over it without looking at facts. I remember the old Ford/Chevy arguments from Jr. High, and this isn't any different.

Hondas are cool, but there are a lot of other good and interesting cars out there. I had a Honda Accord that the head gasket went on when I was with some friends up in the mountains. Had to get 100 miles banging away on only two cylinders and revving it like it was a 750 Fiat to get up enough torque to get from 1st to 2nd gear.

I have had 2 American cars, 2 Japanese cars, 3 German cars, 1 Italian Car, 1 Czech Car and 1 Korean Car. They all had their pluses and minuses. Some had character, some were more fun than others and for different reasons. I like trying new cars and not getting in the same old rut.

I'd own a Tiburon.

What I heard from Motortrend TV was all very positive about it. They compared slalom times to those of Porsche.

Cmotif <><

Guess what? YOUR BOTH RIGHT! i know its fun to debate, i have fun reading your argument, but the tiburon is a great car, in its price range that is, i haven't test driven one, and i don't intend to, i won't start wanting one until, hyundai has more experience under their belt. they're a great company, right now they're the number 1 huge ship building company, and they may compete with the top sellers in a bout ten years. but for now, to me, since i have actually lived in korea, ITS STILL A HYUNDAI! and these sonatas, XGs, KIAs and daewoos all look funny to me cus they're taxis over there.

THis is to Euro19. Dude, i dont know what mag. you got that article out of, but most of it is false. First of all, you said that it doesn't have all season tires. It does have all season tires(It DOES drive in the snow) In fact, they are better tires than both the celica and rsx. Second of all, the interior of both the celica and rsx have relatively the same sizes. The Tib's back seet is bigger in some measurments, and thats a fact. I admit that the rsx is better if you have the extra cash, but the celica sucks. You have to dig out a good amount of dough just to get the celica to have the same features the tiburon has. Nothing is standard on the celica. Plus, the tiburon looks better than both those cars. Rsx may be better performance wize, but the styling sucks! Did you guys know that the tib. is #1 rally car and is currently beating the Subaru Impreza WRX.

And for the idiot who said you cant compare a honda to hyundai. Yes you could. Honda sucks. hyundai has improved so much but you damn people wont freaken get over it. Yes hyundai used to suck, but it don't No more.:flipa: :eek:

I just saw a video of a Tiburon racing against a Honda Prelude. The Tiburon smoked it. Just a note...

Got a link to that vid?

you can download it off kazaa. Just type tiburon and it will come up. I saw it myself. Not to clear but you can here the audiences reaction.:D

Prelude got Holeshot .. Isn't that the older Tiburon model? :confused:

All the reviews that I've read of the TIb are excellent reviews. To the person who mentioned, its a still just a HYUNDAI, I have a question for you. Have you ever owned a Hyundai?? I doubt it. My tib is my second Hyundai I've owned and have had no problems with either of the HYUNDAIS I've owned. I know Hyundai had a bad rep back in the day, but come on, its time to move on, geez. All I have to say is I love my Tib and I think its a great car, everyone likes what they like and who cares about one magazine's opinion.............. :rolleyes:

Originally posted by KeGrO
but for now, to me, since i have actually lived in korea, ITS STILL A HYUNDAI! and these sonatas, XGs, KIAs and daewoos all look funny to me cus they're taxis over there.

hey, newsflash!!! if you live in asian countries you'll find that they use asian cars as taxis. Have you ever been to the philippines? they use toyotas, hondas, mitsubishi as taxis. now would you still buy those cars? here, they use ford as taxis, would it be safe to say that they shouldn't get those cars either since they are being used as taxis? :flipa:

honda never started as a great long lasting car. they had to start from the bottom with quirks and mishaps, but they had to prove themselves and became a reliable car. so don't hate on some company because they had a bad rep. i learned that because i had the same attitude as you, but i wasn't stubborn and decided to test drive a tib. now i own one. nuff said.

man, you guys are into it... its not the tiburon that bothers me, its these kids who think they are the god of the earth with their old sonatas and other cars like it...kia...daewoo....and godamn neons, these cars are nothing but econo-boxes, cheaply made, and it reflects in the quality. So the tiburon gets newly restyled, almost like a ferrari maranello, i like how they are trying to get a piece of the hot new market, but i cant forget the fact that its a hyundai, i mean, there are new hyundais out there(2-3 years old) with the whole muffler system falling off, paint faded, and i say godamn, i wont ever buy one. Im a nissan guy, always have been, always will be. I noticed no-one compared the tib to any nissan, with due cause, there is no comparison whatsoever. I like the tibs new styling, and the duals were a nice touch, but they are brand new now, who knows how they will hold up. Either way, it will take hyundai a long time to recover ground from the image they have been under. i still would never buy one as long as nissan exists:silly2:

as for modding the tib, i doubt the bottom end could hold 300+ for very long, and who would want to void their 10 year warranty? thats a long time to wait to mod a car, especially when the chances are quite good that it will be in the junk yard by then anyway


86 300zx turbo @ 12.5psi

Originally posted by NiSmO_zt
man, you guys are into it... its not the tiburon that bothers me, its these kids who think they are the god of the earth with their old sonatas and other cars like it...kia...daewoo....and godamn neons, these cars are nothing but econo-boxes, cheaply made, and it reflects in the quality. So the tiburon gets newly restyled, almost like a ferrari maranello, i like how they are trying to get a piece of the hot new market, but i cant forget the fact that its a hyundai, i mean, there are new hyundais out there(2-3 years old) with the whole muffler system falling off, paint faded, and i say godamn, i wont ever buy one. Im a nissan guy, always have been, always will be. I noticed no-one compared the tib to any nissan, with due cause, there is no comparison whatsoever. I like the tibs new styling, and the duals were a nice touch, but they are brand new now, who knows how they will hold up. Either way, it will take hyundai a long time to recover ground from the image they have been under. i still would never buy one as long as nissan exists:silly2:

as for modding the tib, i doubt the bottom end could hold 300+ for very long, and who would want to void their 10 year warranty? thats a long time to wait to mod a car, especially when the chances are quite good that it will be in the junk yard by then anyway


86 300zx turbo @ 12.5psi

The bottom end CAN hold 300HP. In fact it can hold more. Take apart a beta engine (Hyundai's Inline 4) and take a look at it yourself. You'd be surprised.

Not sure if you'd ever heard of the "La Pulga" down in Puerto Rico. Its an Hyundai Accent with the Beta swap running 8's in the 1/4 with mostly stock bottom end.

hes probably blue printed the engine, and, well, there are always those guys with the seemingly endless supply of $$ that do things like that to cars...and even if something goes wronq, they just replace it or fix it with no regard to cost. Some guy did that to a car like mine, had like 1300 hp and was running 7's in the quarter, he won the overall championship of some series or another, i read about it in one of those sports car mags, and although its possible, for normal purposes, whats the point. I have the money to push my engine to 400+ hp, but i dont have enough to do that and then replace the whole thing(although i hear the vg30et is quite durable) when i blow it...it is almost 17 years old now, not to mention original turbo.

while im not tryin to diss this sort of thing, im just sayin that with enough money, a lawnmower could run 8's, and has im sure





86 300zx turbo @12.5psi

Originally posted by NiSmO_zt
but i cant forget the fact that its a hyundai, i mean, there are new hyundais out there(2-3 years old) with the whole muffler system falling off, paint faded, and i say godamn, i wont ever buy one.

hmm, but what about the other factors. like, for instance, how many miles on it, how has it been treated, etc..

we have a customer who has bought two hyundai elantras from us now. Bought a 2001 elantra, put 167,000 miles on it in two years (salesman), and now replaced it with a 2003 elantra GT.

Yeah, the exhaust failed within a year, but after 100K+ miles the first year, it can be expected.

A lot of other things have to be factored in then just , oh it was only two years old..

Barry@Hyundai

since you are supposabl;y quoting a magazine, here I go.
Quoting Autoweek Magazine, March 4, 2002.

'..and were suprised by the GT's communicative suspension'

' Hyundai called the exterior 'sleek European Styling'..It is a beautiful mix that veiwers seem to pick up different things. It is a beautiful mis that left one guy mettering something about a Ferrari 456'

'The Gt showed suprising smoothness and stability at more than 100mph, and was much quieter than expected.'

'We found the basic, black, sporty interior comfortable, with suppostive front seats.'


now, unlike you, I cannot claim these as facts. Why? Well, they are still opinin, just someone elses. You quoted an article, which was that writers opinion. Second hand opinion does not become fact...understand?

And look, I quoted the magazine, and the date published...you cannot even say what magazine it is in.

so what are you afraid of, that you may drive a Tib and like it? Go test drive one, you will be pleasantly suprised.

Barry@Hyundai

please man, all that stuff IS my opinion, but i based most of it on fact, which is what i have seen with my own eyes. My car is 16 years old with 170000 miles on it and it is still all original, besides a few mods, heh. All we are talking about here is the quality of the product, while my car was Nissans premier sports car of the day, it had great quality products integrated into its design. Lately, some of these car companies have really dissapointed me. Nothing bothers me more than cheap plastic materials and "hollowness." From what i have seen from Hyundai is a cheaper product, what they are doing is great, though, now more people can buy new cars than ever before, but at what cost?
It seems like every one of them(not just the ones with 150000+ miles on it) is just ratted out. The fact that thes cars are built cheaply is no mystery, they just cant handle the use. It would be a much better investment to by a quality used car than a cheap new one.

As for the new tiburon, give it time, i will be surprised if it doesnt turn out like the rest of the hyundais, and i will give due props to hyundai if they have finally made something decent, as for test driving one, ha, i would simply be embarassed to be seen in one.



cj


86 300zx turbo@12.5 psi

You think Hyundai is crap? well why is then that every major manufacturer is trying to get their hands on one? Look at this for example:

Hyundai Plans to bring 22 vehicles to the 2002 SEMA Show in Las Vegas


Fountain Valley, California - Hyundai Motor America will be bringing some hot wheels to the 2002 Specialty Equipment Market Association (SEMA) Show -- literally. Twenty-two modified variations of five production models customized by some of the biggest names in the automotive aftermarket will be on display at the Las Vegas-based trade show, Nov. 5-8.

Customized versions of the Hyundai Tiburon, XG350, Sonata, Santa Fe and Elantra will be located in either the Hyundai exhibit, aftermarket vendor booths or in SEMA's feature vehicle display area. Hyundai will also be unveiling some other exciting products, but on a much smaller scale. On November 5, Hyundai will hold a press conference to unveil the all-new, Hot Wheels version of the Hyundai Pro Rally car -- winner of six of the last seven SCCA manufacturer's championships, including the 2002 championship, the Hyundai team clinched on October 20. Troy Lee, principal of Troy Lee Designs, who designed the graphics for the championship winning Tiburon, will sign the first series of 100 Hot Wheels Hyundai Pro Rally Tiburon models. Lee is perhaps best known for his work in customizing the racing helmets for many of the world's fastest 2-wheel and 4-wheel professional racers in bicycle, motorcycle, and open wheel car racing. Individually signed and numbered Hot Wheels models are scheduled to be distributed to the working media at the press conference.

This year marks Hyundai's third appearance as an exhibitor at the SEMA Show. Each year, the number of Hyundai custom display vehicles has increased and the modifications have become progressively more dramatic as an increasing number of aftermarket parts are available for both tuners and consumers. Hyundai officials attend the SEMA Show to further their understanding of the tuner market, and meet with suppliers interested in building components customers can use to modify their Hyundai vehicles.

"We've forged relationships with the most talented and respected suppliers and tuners in the aftermarket business, so that our customers can modify the appearance and performance of their Hyundai vehicles to suit their desires," said David Ossenmacher, director of product strategy and planning at Hyundai Motor America. "Making our brand resonate with enthused consumers and with cutting edge aftermarket suppliers is a key part of our strategy to becoming a Tier One automotive brand in the United States."

Hyundai's value position of typically being priced thousands of dollars less than key competitors, allows their consumers to apply the money they saved on the purchase of a Hyundai to customize the vehicle to their tastes.


This was the article (http://www.canadiandriver.com/news/021025-2.htm)

I know of company's like Blitz, HKS, Greddy, Shark Racing, and so on that will have Tib's there as main company cars. Everyone needs to understand something. I've said it before, and I'll say it again. The reason why Hyundai has gotten a bad reputation is because of Mitsubishi. If you want to call Hyundai's junk, then think again and call Mits junk. Back in the day, Mitsu was the one that built the engines and tranny's. now that Hyundai builds their own stuff, it's all very high quality. Look in magazines, such as Import Racer, HCI, Import Tuner, and SCC. All those magazines are trying to get their hands on a Hyundai to do a build up or project on. Look at the Pro Ralley circuit. As it was stated above, Hyundai has been the number one dominant car in most of the pro ralley events. I know Fast & Furious was a ricer movie, but in the sequal, there will be 3 Hyundai's in it. There WAS going to be a Hyundai as one of the main cars, but some things fell through and the owner of the Hyundai that was going to be in it caused some issues with Craig Liberman. Instead, the 3 Hyundai's that will be in the movie will be background cars. I can go on and on, but the bottom line is that there's something new in the tuning scene and just because people who own the every day run of the mill Honda, Mitsu, Acura, Nissan, or whatever can't deal with it, doesn't mean they should bash on other cars that are becoming big in the scene quickly. :smoka:

i never said they werent becoming big on the street scene, but this is obviously due the the inexpensiveness of them. and like any hyundai isnt run of the mill? please, putting nissan below hyundai should be a sin, mad cash would have to be put into those hyundais to outperform a z32 or z31 for that matter.

Originally posted by KeGrO
and these sonatas, XGs, KIAs and daewoos all look funny to me cus they're taxis over there.

I think that´s stupid to say! Like if it was big deal, who cares? You know, in America taxis are Fords and Chevys, in Korea, korean cars obviously, DUHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!! and in german, german cars, DUHHHHHHH, or didnt you know taxis in germany are MERCEDES BENZ??? So stop the crap and talk about something interesting or otherwise leave. good bye.

Originally posted by barry@hyundai
since you are supposabl;y quoting a magazine, here I go.
Quoting Autoweek Magazine, March 4, 2002.

'..and were suprised by the GT's communicative suspension'

' Hyundai called the exterior 'sleek European Styling'..It is a beautiful mix that veiwers seem to pick up different things. It is a beautiful mis that left one guy mettering something about a Ferrari 456'

'The Gt showed suprising smoothness and stability at more than 100mph, and was much quieter than expected.'

'We found the basic, black, sporty interior comfortable, with suppostive front seats.'


now, unlike you, I cannot claim these as facts. Why? Well, they are still opinin, just someone elses. You quoted an article, which was that writers opinion. Second hand opinion does not become fact...understand?

And look, I quoted the magazine, and the date published...you cannot even say what magazine it is in.

so what are you afraid of, that you may drive a Tib and like it? Go test drive one, you will be pleasantly suprised.

Barry@Hyundai

Afraid of what? Are you stupid or what? you could only have asked
I saw the article in Car & Driver mag, in the comparo with the Celica, RSX and Beetle Turbo. What I posted were FACTS, if not look up the definition on the dictionary. The only thing that isn´t a fact is about the design ok. And I don´t hate Hyundais actually, just people like you!

the point I was making is they are the opinions of the writers, not facts. If you stated FACTS like HP muber comparions, 0-60 times, etc.. thos are facts. No matter what a Car and Driver writer writes, it is still his opinion, see what I am saying. Nothing personal against you, just what it is...

and why do you hate people like me, because I am a sales manager for Hyundais, or because I proved you wrong? Because I drive a faster car then you, or because I showed another point of view?

Why are you getting so defensive, we are talking about a car here, right, not a matter of national pride or anything...

all I was stated when I asked if you were afraid , is are you afraid you might like it if you drive it... who knows, oyu may, or you may hate it. it may not be for you. does not mean it is a bad car. hell, i know it is not the car for me, does not mean it is a nice car, just means it is not for me, as it may not be for you, correct?

barry@hyundai

Think about it like this
-we have more hp than all stock si's
-we can keep up with all but the gts model celica
-we rape all new eclipses
-we can beat all those cars and the GTS with a minimal amount of
money
-even afterwards we still cost less and we are getting a factory
warrentied supercharger from alpine racing. that means we will
still have our nice 10 year powertrain warrenty!

Check yourself and understand that the new tiburons are in the same class as all honduhs and whatnot. and we all race for the same reasons, to show domestic cars who's who!

super charger....BOO! get a turbon:smoker2:












86 300zx turbo @12.5psi

well considering it has not been out long it is cool that there is already an sc, im sure soon there will be turbos available but the car just came out.

:rolleyes: All Jap cars were absolutely crap until the mid- late 80's when they started to sort it out. Nissan, Honda ok not so much Toyota were rust buckets the same goes for old Hyundais as well but now these manufacturers are creating absolutely fantastic bits of machinery.
I love the 300ZX and the 200SX and the new Z car looks so sweet. Do you remember the first Honda Prelude what a heap of crap that was. So don't diss a company that is finally starting to get things right, put it this way you would probably be saying the same things about Nissan if these message boards were about in the 80's. Moan over:silly2:

Just letting you know.....a race was held not to long ago with a 03 tib and a 03 rsx....and ofcourse youd say the rsx beat the tib but think again....the tib won by car lengths not inches....it smoked the rsx without any hesitation...it took off first and finished first...another magazine also tried out the 03 tib.. they said it was a great car...was the magazine you were reading a DOMESTIC car mag???? but just letting you know the Tiburon smoked the RSX.

oooh yea.....a tib that was just bought smoked an eclipse that has been modified.:flipa: :D

The Celica has a high horsepower 1.8 liter, 180 HP is I remember correctly, but is low on torque.

Torque is where the Tib should be stronger, have more displacement and more cylinders.

The Celica engine should be more peaky, and have to be kept driven hard to get the most out of it. I would like that the Tib would have power more like a BMW 6 which has more grunt over a broader RPM range.

What is the explanation given in the magazine why the GTS can beat it?

Cmotif <><

first to monkey child,
nissans werent crap in the 80's man, the z car has been pluggin since the 70's and it was sweet all along, not much to say for other japanese cars in those days though

And redrum
i assure you that the acura was not a "type-s" the standard rsx has 160 hp, in a 4 banger, which has low torque, the tib has like 180 in a sixxer, with more torque, so what are you braggin about, i wasnt defending acura, but Nissan man, lets see the tib smoke a six cylinder nissan...:flipa: :flipa: :flipa: :flipa: :flipa: :flipa: :flipa: :flipa: :flipa: :flipa: :flipa: :flipa: :flipa:

Dude, first of all, don't try to support crap nissans. They suck! Read any review and it will say that the new Z isn't as sporty as they thought it was going to be. I'm not talking about looks, I'm talking about feel. That thing is a sorry piece of crap thats not worth the money you pay for it. Second of all, to that one dude that said the tiburon has 181 horsepower and needs work on the torque. You guys don't no crap. You have it all wrong. The tib has 171 horspower with 181 torque. Don't look at all the old reviews and stuff. They have wrong info. Simply go to www.Hyundaiusa.com :alien: www.Hyundaiusa.com (http://www.hyundaiusa.com)

Originally posted by ReDrUm
Just letting you know.....a race was held not to long ago with a 03 tib and a 03 rsx....and ofcourse youd say the rsx beat the tib but think again....the tib won by car lengths not inches....it smoked the rsx without any hesitation...it took off first and finished first...another magazine also tried out the 03 tib.. they said it was a great car...was the magazine you were reading a DOMESTIC car mag???? but just letting you know the Tiburon smoked the RSX.

oooh yea.....a tib that was just bought smoked an eclipse that has been modified.:flipa: :D

i just love how hyundai owners think that they can smoke an rsx?? i can also smoke a camaro in my rsx-s, oh wait. didn't they make v6 camaros. your little comparo was done w/a stock rsx, i have NEVER lost a race to any type of TIBURON, in fact, it hasn't even been CLOSE. All i have is an injen air intake, the turbo, wheels, and chip are waiting. I would shoot myself if a stock HYUNDAI (read piece of trash) beat an rsx-s.

Originally posted by akhedraki
THis is to Euro19. Dude, i dont know what mag. you got that article out of, but most of it is false. First of all, you said that it doesn't have all season tires. It does have all season tires(It DOES drive in the snow) In fact, they are better tires than both the celica and rsx. Second of all, the interior of both the celica and rsx have relatively the same sizes. The Tib's back seet is bigger in some measurments, and thats a fact. I admit that the rsx is better if you have the extra cash, but the celica sucks. You have to dig out a good amount of dough just to get the celica to have the same features the tiburon has. Nothing is standard on the celica. Plus, the tiburon looks better than both those cars. Rsx may be better performance wize, but the styling sucks! Did you guys know that the tib. is #1 rally car and is currently beating the Subaru Impreza WRX.

And for the idiot who said you cant compare a honda to hyundai. Yes you could. Honda sucks. hyundai has improved so much but you damn people wont freaken get over it. Yes hyundai used to suck, but it don't No more.:flipa: :eek:

i love this. now HONDA sucks. wow. i wonder why it's known as the most reliable car company out there along with toyota? i guess I had my cars crossed, it must have been the HYUNDAI and not the HONDA that has been on jd power and associates list every year for the last 10 years. I guess the HYUNDAI is the great car now. Wow, sorry, I must be really confused. It's so easy to ignore raw facts and statistics and put in your own five cents. It's also funny that some PUNK who doesn't know shit about swapping engines into cars has his car breaking down all the time. I've also owned HYUNDAIS and HONDAS and even some Eclipses and even a Starion. All of the cars outlasted the Hyundais which had CONSTANT problems. I coulda sworn I had 2 dealerships. Oh well, I guess the 15 and 16 year olds are the experts now.

Well it´s obvious Hyundai is not a great car or whatever. I already told my experience with one of them, brand new, when I rented one on a vacation, it was awfull, the engine warmed up too much and the steering wheel shaked awfully around 80mph, etc etc, never more! I truly dont recommended.

Originally posted by Euro19
Well it´s obvious Hyundai is not a great car or whatever. I already told my experience with one of them, brand new, when I rented one on a vacation, it was awfull, the engine warmed up too much and the steering wheel shaked awfully around 80mph, etc etc, never more! I truly dont recommended.

I registered just for this...

I would say it's obvious that Hyundai doesn't have the greatest of reputations right now. But they are slowly building that back up. I own a Tiburon, a 98 and I love the car. All i've added is a custom CAI and the car amazes people even today that the styling and performace came from a hyundai. I'm not a super firm believer of Hyundai yet, this is my first...but it probably won't be my last.

Oh yeah, you shouldn't base your entire opinion of a car company on some RENTAL that you had. Admit it, you know some of those cars have been abused to hell and back.

Lastly, I'm not here to say what cars suck and what doesn't. Most things posted already are heavily based on opinion. Drive what you like, talk shit on the track.

Double Post

Originally posted by itsmeek


i love this. now HONDA sucks. wow. i wonder why it's known as the most reliable car company out there along with toyota? i guess I had my cars crossed, it must have been the HYUNDAI and not the HONDA that has been on jd power and associates list every year for the last 10 years. I guess the HYUNDAI is the great car now. Wow, sorry, I must be really confused. It's so easy to ignore raw facts and statistics and put in your own five cents. It's also funny that some PUNK who doesn't know shit about swapping engines into cars has his car breaking down all the time. I've also owned HYUNDAIS and HONDAS and even some Eclipses and even a Starion. All of the cars outlasted the Hyundais which had CONSTANT problems. I coulda sworn I had 2 dealerships. Oh well, I guess the 15 and 16 year olds are the experts now.

First off, don't act like your the shit. You people still don't get it do you. I have a question for you itsmeek. When was the last time you drove a hyundai, and specificaly a tiburon. I don't give a rats ass what the old hyundais used to be. We are talking about 2003 here. Not 98, not 99, not 2000, but 2003. You said that you OWNED Hyundais. I wonder how long ago that was? Stop talking about the old hyundai and start looking at the new. You damn RSX owners and celica owners are in complete denial and don't want to except the fact that the tiburon is a good car. Go test drive one and then talk.:devil:

the civic got last place in a recent comparison with cars in its class
hyundai got 2nd
beat that

the tib gt v6 CAN NOT beat the celica gt-s or the rsx-s BUT it did beat the rsx-s in that race
the 4cyl beta is a freakin awsome tuner motor that can handle good boost and the v6 delta while not yet proven gets real nice gains when modded.
and this has to be the funniest board ever, probably even worse than speedoptions lol

oh yea 300ZX suck monkeyballs, i dont' know about the turbo model but i had first hand experiance with the older Z's non turbo and they were nothing but overpriced tanks

stupid ass hipocrit, akhedraki. let me ask you this, when was the last time you drove a brand new nissan, say, 350z? or any nissan for that matter. ur such a dumb shit child ricer. brand new cars all ride good and drive nice. i dont mind hyundais that much, but dumb fu . cks like you are worth nothing. go nappy with your blankey you dumb child fag.got.

this is you ---> :confused: :confused: :confused: get a fuc'ing clue dip sh.it









86 300zx @12.5psi

you obviously dont know turbo 300zx's. i have no competition with any of these cars you are talkin about, celica gts...tib...etc. the N/A 300zx's were underpowered, about as fast as an older civic si, i can tell from riding in my friends 87 N/A...but 50+ hp make one hell of a difference. and how do you have the balls to call the 300zx the sucker of monkeyballs? you drove an n/a, prolly a 4 seater...they just werent that sporty, the turbos from 85 and up were where it started. i read a whole road and track review comparing the turbo z to the new corvette at the time. the z was .1 seconds slower in the quarter mile, and .1 seconds slower in the 0-60 sprint, but the following years kept those numbers improving. the second gen 300zx is phatty, and the 350z, obviously.








86 300zx turbo @12.5psi

NIZMO you ass monkey
you abviously can't read for shit because i said THE 300Z SUCKS AND WERE OVERPRICED TANKS AND THEN I STATED THAT I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE 300Z TURBOS BECAUSE I KNOW THEY WERE REAL FAST BUT DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT ANY PROBLEMS WITH THEM. NOW I NORMALLY DO NOT TYPE IN CAPS BUT FUCKTARDS LIKE YOU CAN'T READ FOR SHIT SO I HAVE TO MAKE THINGS A LITTLE BIGGER FOR FUCKNUTS LIKE YOU.
AND WE ARE SORRY THAT WE CAN'T ALL AFFORD INSURANCE ON A TURBO CAR AND WE ARE SORRY TAHT WE ALL DON'T TUNE SUPERCARS AND "REAL" SPORTS CARS DICK.

some of us have lives and a future and do not have need for such things right now.... asshole.
respect others cars and you'll be respected plus 90% of the boards dont' know shit about cars but what they have heard and read :rolleyes:

easy guy, i was simply emphasizing what you stated, that you didnt know much about turbo cars. and as for the big image associated with them, i bought my car for $3000 with money i earned over the summer, and insurance is only $80 a month without accidents, its very inexpensive, and i can run with the best of em. i am no fuck tard my friend, i was trying to inform you of the differences between the too, i had no harsh tone with you, lol :)













86 300zx turbo @12.5psi

ok i'm sorry too
i thought you were implaing that i didn't know the diffrence between a turbo 300z and an N/A 300z
i know the turbos are freakin fast, i'm not an idiot lol
just this site seems to be filled with them from what i'm seeing.... i guess since its got alot of members the idiot factor is greater
no hard feelings i just thought you couldn't read what i wrote

insurance for me on my elantra is freakin 340 a month!!!! what the hell did you do to get it for 80 a month on a turbo???
are you married or something? thats when i'm gonna get a nice car when i'm married so my insurance is cheaper and my record is also clean, never a ticket in my life.

there are lots of factors that contribute to insurance, first off is the age of the car, yours is a 2000, so it will have a higher insurance rate, since mine is from the stone age, it wont cost as much. secondly, i only have liability, which means im covered as long as its not my fault, which i hope it never is(i like to think of myself as an aware driver). i am 20 now without any tickets or accidents, i know you said uve never had an accident also, but the car age is prolly the biggest factor.













86 300zx turbo@12.5psi

Umm. I'm confused. Didn't Nizmo dis me. What the hell did that mach guy have anything to do with it. Nizmo said akhedraki. Whatever. And to what Nizmo said, I said Nissan's suck, true, and yes, in a way I was a hypocrite about that, but I don't think the 350Z sucks at all. Yet the other nissans, in my opinion, suck. I also want to say that you cant really compare a 350Z to a tiburon. For gods sake, the price difference is drastically different. I think the tiburon is the best deal in its class. My thoughts are, why pay so much money for a celica gts or RSX S just because it goes faster than the tiburon. Hell, the tiburon looks good and a lot of aftermarket crap is being made for it. By all means. if you have 26 grand to spare, get the 350Z. But if your like me and can't spend that much, get the tiburon. I would also like to say that I hate seeing guys in there thirties driving a tiburon. It pisses me off. I mean, shit, grow up. You fools look like idiots driving it. Especially when you take a picture of yourself in front of it and post it on the internet. All that shows is that you dont have much money, and you haven't grown up yet. Ok. THats all I have to say. Later people. By the way, why in the hell did you(Nizmo) get so damn mad?

i got mad cause you think your opinion is fact, saying all older nissans are crap. My "crap" nissan will take your brand new tiburon and walk all over it...and i garantee i spent less than a quarter of what you did. You must not have much pre-2000 nissan experience, or you wouldnt say what you are. your just in denial.

Originally posted by akhedraki


First off, don't act like your the shit. You people still don't get it do you. I have a question for you itsmeek. When was the last time you drove a hyundai, and specificaly a tiburon. I don't give a rats ass what the old hyundais used to be. We are talking about 2003 here. Not 98, not 99, not 2000, but 2003. You said that you OWNED Hyundais. I wonder how long ago that was? Stop talking about the old hyundai and start looking at the new. You damn RSX owners and celica owners are in complete denial and don't want to except the fact that the tiburon is a good car. Go test drive one and then talk.:devil:

whatever helps you sleep at night my friend. my cousin traded his 2003 tib in for a celica the other day because like all the articles say. The shifter is slow and clunky, the engine is not very responsive, the doors feel too heavy, the car doesn't handle well, etc.etc. yes i owned a 2001 tiburon and have had many other hyundais. i even liked the old hyundais, to tell you the truth, never had a problem with them. but i would never compare a hyundai to an acura, celica, or even a civic. theres a reason i got an RSX, it's because i can AFFORD the rsx and same with celica owners. i never knocked the tib, just said it should never be compared to a celica or an rsx, there is no comparison as the road and tracks, car and drivers, and motor trends found out. those are the big names out there. we're not talkin about some comparison that hyundai sporttuners did against a non type-s rsx that u guys keep mentioning.

yo meek, did you check out the scooby wrx before you got your rsx? my uncle has a wrx and it is sweet, i believe they are in the same general price range...not too sure, but the wrx is an all around performer.

yeah man, i test drove the wrx. i loved it. the only thing w/that car that i saw as being a problem in the future was the turbo. and i also didn't like the overall looks of the car and the cheesy interior. with an air intake and a hondata chip i can beat the wrx in my rsx. i DO LOVE the subarus looks w/body kits and i do think the tiburon is a beautiful car, but would never buy a hyundai, the tiburon may look good up front, but it's the first year in production and i know they're gonna say that the rsx is the same, but honda has proven themselves in the past.

i know man, i wouldnt buy a hyundai either, just not tried and true yet. I did think the wrx was posting low 0-60 times though, like 5.4 seconds, whats the rsx-s post? the looks were a first i know, i worked with my uncle all summer, and people kept confusing it with a suped up neon, lol. subaru has redesigned the whole front end for next year, and it looks better. kind of skyline-ish headlights, it looks sweet. the beauty of the subaru is the damn winter driving, unbelievable, seriously, i took a ride in my unc's wrx and it accelerated on pure snow like it was on dry pavement, seriously, it was damn sweet, only thing that sux is that its a 4-door, but it is a rally car, and most of them are 4-door anyway. Is the rsx motor a 2.0? acura did some monster tuning to get 200hp out of it, i think the variable valve timing is the key factor there. the rsx has nice lines, but damn, when you stand next to it, its small, TT small. sweet car, what did it cost? if you dont mind my asking.

lata

yeah man not a prob. i got my rsx-s for 20k american, i think retail is about 23,650 on it. the fastest time posted was 0-60 in 6.1 seconds i don't remember but i believe it was motor trend that posted that time. i put an air intake in mine and w/a hondata ecu chip the car will be making about 220 to the wheels. keep in mind the wrx makes about 227 only to the flywheel but to the wheels it only makes 168.0 hp@ 5733 rpm @ 12.1 psi. hey did you check out the new dodge neon srt? now that car is just sick. 0-60 in 5.5 seconds and under 20k. just no beating that. but it's still a neon (HI!)

i looked at an article with the srt in it, not bad stats, but who in the right mind would pay money for a neon, lol, not me. one thing that is wierd, you mentioned the subaru wheel horsepower at 12.1psi, my uncles factory wrx is at 14.9 psi...hrm. one extra question, ive seen the ad for the rsx-s, and they quote 200hp, which 99% of the time is flywheel horsepower , but you say your rsx has 200 at the wheels? does the car actually have 200 at the wheels? seems high, though, its prolly in the 7000+ rpm zone.... something esle to be considered is the torque, while the rsx could be at 200+ hp, the torque is prolly around 150, where as the turbo adds quite a bit of extra torque to the wrx's shit 'n git. it would be an excellent project comparison.

no

i never said the rsx had 200 hp to the wheels, mine does now after the ecu upgrade and the the air intake, i'm making about 220 to the wheels(i've never dynoed it, this is from hondatas site and temple of vtecs article w/a similar rsx w/the same upgrades i have). the wrx thing was a quote i got from a site on the net. i think it's more like 190 to the wheels.

Ok, first of all, this thread is absolutely horrible.

But let's ALL get our facts straight.

Hyundais are NOT bad cars. They are making really nice strides to get away from the unreliable reputation. But they still have a little farther to go. But for starters, lets look at the comment made by so many in here about hondas breaking down.

Hondas break down because they are mistuned, misused, and have a rep for HIGH reliablility. This makes ppl more brave to push the envelope with them. Honda is a good manufaturer, BUT THEY ARENT SUPERCARS, not to offend all of you ricers out there. (Not most of them anyways)

Now, Hyundai still has some more bugs to work out before they are as reliable as a Nissan, Honda, Toyota, ect... And in my opinion, a couple or three years and they will be right there. But right now, IMO, they arent quite. My grandma owns one, and she drives it like its a china doll. Already it's had a crankshaft sensor go out (2001 Santa Fe, BTW), output recall (187hp>173hp, all you tib owners got this letter in the mail also) and it goes through batteries very fast for some reason (not so sure wat the deal is with that one). Overall that isnt bad at all. But its still only about 95% of what a honda's reliability is. Right now, the largest recall honda is experienceing is an ignition switch on the brand new CR-V. And it only goes out on 1 of a billion vehicles. Granted thats something, but a tad less than hyundai. (Not to start a Honda vs Hyundai debate, i just used to work for Honda.)

Now, the warrenties. Ill settle this with one word. Hyundai's 100k mile warrenties are LIMITED. Honda's 36k mile warrenties are bumper-to-bumper.

Someone in here said Hondas suck. Thats foolish, and no response.

To ShOrTfUz, having more hp than an Si doesnt mean faster. :) Considering, I've taken the brand new GTS Celicas and GST Eclipses in my 00 Si (to their great surprise). It was a very close race, but i ended in front. And dont even start any of you who want to say that mini land boat (eclipse) will run 14s. Its such bull it makes me wanna hurl. You know what cars give me real tough races??? 240's, SER Spec-Vs, Cav Z24s, and even tibs are tougher than the celica GTS.
Hondas arent super cars, to finish that thought. I would like to share with you the chain of misfortunes thats happened to me since I got my 00 Si used at 17k miles from an auction that got it from a dealership. The car was leased, and abused. The clutch was nearly dead when i got it. Three weeks after i got it, i had an accident with a minivan. T-boned it. The van was totaled and pushed off the road into a ditch, my front end was (needless to say) piccasoed. The van was toed away on a giant bed truck. I DROVE MY CIVIC HOME. Number 2, my sway bar in the rear was busted in a strange situation in a flood zone against a high sitting sidewalk (because of the erosion) when the muffler was pushed against it (damn drivers ed and putting the three pt turn in my head). The front of the wheel (Rear Right) is angled in towards the car about 2 degrees from this. The handling should be terrible. I got a new exhaust and drove to miami. Hardly noticed (Six hour drive) The dealership installed the catback and didnt tell me about the sway bar and bent arm. I play with my high reving vtec, and sometimes play with it too much. I drive it hard, i will admit. Still no problems. During an oil change, some confusion happens and the dealership ends up having to drain 7 qts of oil out of the car. For you non-techs, that will damage the piston rings severely with that much extra oil pressure under the cylinders. (There was gasoline in the drained oil) and yes I drove it away and had to limp it back with white smoke pouring out of the exhaust. I adv about 26mpg, which is great since i drive it about 20k miles a year for college. Which is very high use, and in florida, the heat breaks down motors faster.
I couldnt be any happier with that little warrior sitting in my garage. And Hondas suck? Im sorry, but that is plain and simple doing these cars a misjustice.
To make this much to long story short... I just wish these "Your car sucks because I have a different one" would just get lost. About 99% of cars are driven by driver because of preference. And some ppl like to root for a single manufacturer, which is cool too. My personal favs are Nissan, Honda, and Chevy. That doesnt mean they are the only good cars out there. It's just because i enjoy a good piece of Engineering, not just a fast machine (which I definitely like also) and if everybody out there was only about fast... then just go get a Ferrari. Whats impressive about it? It breaks in a year, and costs more than its worth. Its beautiful, and fast for that first year. This is the cake for thousands, but not for me. I work for everything, and cant afford a car like that.

Thanks to all of you who actually reads all of that stuff, and hopefully this will stimulate ppl to learn about more than one kind of car, or one kind of fast, or one kind of style, or... you get the point. Cya!

all i can say is amen. point reinforced.

Originally posted by NiSmO_zt
i looked at an article with the srt in it, not bad stats, but who in the right mind would pay money for a neon, lol, not me. one thing that is wierd, you mentioned the subaru wheel horsepower at 12.1psi, my uncles factory wrx is at 14.9 psi...hrm. one extra question, ive seen the ad for the rsx-s, and they quote 200hp, which 99% of the time is flywheel horsepower , but you say your rsx has 200 at the wheels? does the car actually have 200 at the wheels? seems high, though, its prolly in the 7000+ rpm zone.... something esle to be considered is the torque, while the rsx could be at 200+ hp, the torque is prolly around 150, where as the turbo adds quite a bit of extra torque to the wrx's shit 'n git. it would be an excellent project comparison.
first off this thread is awful, your posting in the hyundai forum about how awful one of there sports model's is. To each his own - this is some ppl's car of choice, you have no right to bash it. as for the wrx psi in stock form the turbo through 1st and 2nd gear run at 9 psi above 3K rpm. The rest of the gears run at around 14.7 psi, but tapper as you go to redline to protect the engine. Also your thinking of the type s rsx with 200 hp, as for tourqe honda's manufacturers have been building engines with less torque, but the ability to rev much higher. This typically means that honda's don't accelerate as quickly right off the line as their counterparts, but they are able to accelerate for longer in the same gear (9,000 rpm redline vs. a 5,500 rpm redline for example) Making torque less valuable.

Hybrid speaking the truth! i believe I have said this many, many times in other disscusions on AF. "Opinions are like assholes, everybody has one!" Hyundai's are not bad cars, in fact they are very good cars for their price range. Now if you want to go flame about a bad car go talk all you juvenile crap in the Kia forum! 2/3's of the people in here probably aren't even old enough to drive, or have been driving for less than 2 years! You don't have enough experice with either of the cars to even argue. Me on the other hand have driven Mitsu GST's, Galant VR-4, Eagle Talon Tsi, Civic's, Teg's, RSX's, Sentra's, and all 3 generations of the Tiburon. To tell you the truth I would take the Tib. over 70% of all those other cars! It is also a thing to be ORIGINAL. Isn't that what import tuning is all about anyway?! How many Civics do you see every day? How many Integra's do you see every day? Eclipses, Rsx's....ect.! Being original is the name of the game, Right? So whoever else wants to Flame can eat my ass!

Thank You
Love,
DemonZX!:finger:

wow I hear alot of people dissing Hyundai because of the fact that the car carries the Hyundai name. That doesn't sound like a solid proof that the new tiburon would be a bad car just because it carries the name of hte company that once had a bad reputation. I'm planning to buy a tiburon soon, and I hope people would give more of a fact rather than opinion on the 2003 Tiburon, so that I can make an informed decision on buying a car. thanks..

Here's to all who belive that the Tiburon sucks...

:flipa: :finger: :flipa: :finger: :flipa: :finger:

Originally posted by NiSmO_zt
[B]super charger....BOO! get a turbon:smoker2:

Why go with the turbo if you had the choice to get a SC? SC's, as long as you can run an equal amount of psi (which in most cases you can), are just as affective. SC's also last longer and there is not that awful turbo lag because the SC supplies the motor with a constant source of power thanks to the SC being belt driven.











:D

I just recently bought the new Tiburon GT V6 w/ 6-spd manual trans and despite all the nay-sayers until you own and drive one, you won't fully see how much HP it actually puts out before any modifications. Now after modifications, I can already tell you this baby will fly. I have tested out my car on a few tricked out civics, stangs, preludes, and even the Monte Carlo SS. I have yet to get killed, this Tiburon can keep up with the best of them. And yes this sound system and styling are one of the best out in 2003 sport cars, not to mention leather interior, comfort, and sunroof.:finger:

Bering honest, I absolutely hate hyundai. They are master of copying concpets and designs. That's a korean thing. I think their cas are actually ok. I dun think it's a bad car at all. I would never own one cause I am such an a$$ like that. I am not a fan of korean products .

One point here...
You know, I'd will give hyundai some props when they bring out RWD and AWD models with some decent power. Funny how they never have made a production level cars with those platforms and some hyundai owners think that hyundai has some place in the racing scenes. Itell you though, I give them props for the rallys. they do very well in the rallys always duking it out with subaru. that's very nice.

Show me 7-8 sec hyundai to shut me up. and not just a car CARRYING the badge. ALL hyundai or Korean product cars that can do like 7,8,9 sec on the track then I will shut up. :rolleyes:

Originally posted by 03tibkane
I just recently bought the new Tiburon GT V6 w/ 6-spd manual trans and despite all the nay-sayers until you own and drive one, you won't fully see how much HP it actually puts out before any modifications. Now after modifications, I can already tell you this baby will fly. I have tested out my car on a few tricked out civics, stangs, preludes, and even the Monte Carlo SS. I have yet to get killed, this Tiburon can keep up with the best of them. And yes this sound system and styling are one of the best out in 2003 sport cars, not to mention leather interior, comfort, and sunroof.:finger:

gee, my 93 mx6 have those with just as same power. Your ca does about 15.9 on 1/4, while stock mx6 manual 1993, does 15.7:rolleyes:

not to mention the j-sepc would have killed the 2003 almighty "tiberion" with its 200 hp on the 1993 mx6.

did you know the car and driver mag did a comparison of the new tib with civic si, focus svt and one other car and tib only had the v6 while eberyone had 4 banger??

I guess they are behind 10 years, that makes sense

I respect your OPINION, however, there is no room for you to talk when you dont even own a Tiburon. First, of all I'm not looking to race my car and that wasnt even the point to my thread. Second, of all you said Hyundai copies others, well truthfully every manufacturer(just about) copies another manufacturer. Why do you think they have cars that are supposed to compete against each other as far as the sales aspect goes? Most important of all, I don't believe in owning the same car as everyone else, I prefer to be a leader not a follower. If I was a follower I would own a Civic Si or a Mustang GT or some other well distributed car. But to tell you the truth, I've seen 2 Tiburons in my city and I live in Jax, FL, one of the largest cities in the US. Basically, don't knock the car because of the name because the only Hyundai, so far, that I would ever drive is the '03 Tiburon GT, not the old Tib or the new 4-banger. Its got the looks and the power I'm looking for, so in MY opinion, its the perfect car for me.

hey whatever floats ur boat, its all good. If you like the car, that's great and I respect you. I just hate the company in general. I really hate flaming peeps, but I am really starting to hate hyundai owners in general cause they talk alot of crap and their company has not accomplished much in this import scenes...yet. yet I say cause they can, but I care less. In genenral if you are happy with your car, its all good.

You know, I get alot of laughs from looking around in forums such as this. Thats because it doesn't matter what people drive, 9 out of 10 people will defend their car all the way to the end. I even used to be one of the people that knocked on others for what they drove. My last car was a 2000 Alero V6. Everyone knocked me cuz it was an OLDSmobile. So fucking what. If you are going to knock on that you might as well say the Grand Am isn't shit because they run off the same motor. Not to mention I killed (not just beat) most of the imports that I came across. I can only think of three times I lost...one to a Stang GT modded, a CRX w/ del Sol Si swap & bolt-ons, and a modded Prelude VTech. From all the judgement, I learned not to judge anymore...period. I gave Hyundai a chance (I too used to knock Hyundai) and I was very impressed. And just to say the new V6 Tib never claimed to have 200 hp. Its claim was 181 which was corrected to 170 hp. The car responds well to minor upgrades such as exhaust and intake. You can say the car only runs 15.9's all you want but maybe someone else can run it faster. After all it is the driver and not the car that determines your 1/4 times. All manufactures have their flaws, but give Hyundai a chance to get some knotches under their belt before you destroy the name. You are all saying how much better Nissan, Honda/Acura, and Mitsubishi are, but look at how long they have been in business. And in my OPINION mitsubishi died when they got rid of the gs-t eclipse for their slow ass V6's now. Pitiful. Honda/Acura are good cars, just not top-of-the-line cars. Nissan is the best by far. High horsepower, long-lasting engines in greatly designed cars. Same goes for Toyota. Thats what the entire car scene is all about (right next to being ORIGINAL that is). So just out of the few years Hyundai has been in the market, they have far surpassed Mitsubishi and are currently in Honda's shadow. I very seriously it will take Hyundai as long as it took Honda to be a full blown competitor in the aftermarket/performance world. Now as I have just displayed...you can make a clear point without shitting on anyone else's ride. Alot of people drive Hyundais that visit this section of the forums (hint : Hyundai Tiburon section). So it would be greatly appreciated if you would treat Hyundai with the same respect all the other manufactures get. Thank you.:rolleyes:

To those who hate hyundai and think they are "crap". You all want to run your mouths and try to preach. Well sit and the desk you learn I teach. This should end this debate once and for all. Hyundais quality IS EQUAL to hondas. Heres the PROOF! from USA TODAY! WARNING If you are to good to handle the truth don't look.

http://www.usatoday.com/money/autos/2003-03-11-cr-picks_x.htm

Spin that!!:devil:

so does this mean that the hyundai is better then the benz and bmw's, wow. nice try but u proved NOTHING. u will NEVER see a person with a decent occuptation driving a hyundai because they are low class, inferior, pieces of garbage.

Nice try? The diffrence between what you and some others have to say and Consumer Reports, Import Tuner, Import Racer, Sports Compact Car, Motorweek, Motortrend etc People actually pay to hear and care what they have to say. As I said before, you can't handle the truth. I don't care. I can throw out FACTS to back up everything I said. You say hyundais are crap ok, throw some FACTS out yourself to support what you say. Opinions are fluff, they can't hold weight. Facts are soild.:eek: Oh and a honda is not a benz eithier.:flipa: So by you having a civic and an acura and not a Benz, Infinity, Lexus, does that mean you don't make decent money? I am planning on buying an xg350 later this year, but thats my personal choice. Any car that you see a lot of on the road, means that it is a COMMON nothing special car. Any questions? :confused:

JAWS1....this is great isn't it? BTW..this is Josh (Visionz) from all the forums. Gotta love the closed minded people who STILL think Honda is god in the Import Scene. :rolleyes:

Originally posted by Jaws1
Nice try? The diffrence between what you and some others have to say and Consumer Reports, Import Tuner, Import Racer, Sports Compact Car, Motorweek, Motortrend etc People actually pay to hear and care what they have to say. As I said before, you can't handle the truth. I don't care. I can throw out FACTS to back up everything I said. You say hyundais are crap ok, throw some FACTS out yourself to support what you say. Opinions are fluff, they can't hold weight. Facts are soild.:eek: Oh and a honda is not a benz eithier.:flipa: So by you having a civic and an acura and not a Benz, Infinity, Lexus, does that mean you don't make decent money? I am planning on buying an xg350 later this year, but thats my personal choice. Any car that you see a lot of on the road, means that it is a COMMON nothing special car. Any questions? :confused:

lets not talk about money, lol, and xg350 doesn't mean anything to me. those ratings mean NOTHING. read the articles about the tib in motor trend where they blast it because after all "theres a reason it's a 16000 dollar car" stop living in a dream world. just like you say i can't compare the mercedes to the honda, you can't compare a hyundai to a honda, there is no comparison there. the cars are in a totally different class. and what facts have you thrown out at me??? if we go by the ratings in the previous post, it's still like saying the honda and hyundai are better then the bmw and benz. nice try :)

Your ignorance really amazes me.

The consumer reports article was fact.
The SCC 8 best ride was fact.
Hyundais showing at Sema Fact
I can back up my smack with article afte article after freaking article. Its sad that you just can't admit defeat. Its also sad when you admit that facts mean nothing. Facts are just the obvious.So if you can't admit the obvious. Then who in reality is living in a dream worldhmm? Your like a stand out solider still trying to fight a war that was over 10 years ago!! All you have is opinion.
Hyundai tuners know all about hyundai the past, the present and the future. Your the choir, you can't preach to the preachers .:rolleyes: But its amusing watching you try though.:D Nice try .;) If you can't give a fact in your responses, your arugments are baseless. Your shooting blanks, give it up try and save face.Oh and I didt compare honda with hyundai, Consumer reports just gave validation to what I and others knew as FACT all along .:smoka:

Originally posted by TibOwner
JAWS1....this is great isn't it? BTW..this is Josh (Visionz) from all the forums. Gotta love the closed minded people who STILL think Honda is god in the Import Scene. :rolleyes:

Hey whats up. This is the orignal Jaws. Someone had my name so I had to use Jaws1. This has been some really amusing stuff. If there weren't any closed minded people in the world, who would we have to make fun of?:D This reminds me of the early Fxtreme days.:D

Originally posted by itsmeek


lol i've also seen a twin engined tiburon. i never said you couldn't, i meant at what cost???? it's obvious you can make a yugo a 9 second car, but at WHAT COST. i give hyundai alot of respect and I admire the way they've moved up, but w/alot less money and headaches u can make a honda, acura, toyota, nissan go faster for cheaper, and it'll last longer.

Making a 9 second Yugo wouldn't be very hard to do, after all the GV+ already does the 1/4 mile at about 12 seconds! Just gut the interior, put on a high flow exhaust, and you're probably running 10's right there.;)

Originally posted by Jaws1
To those who hate hyundai and think they are "crap". You all want to run your mouths and try to preach. Well sit and the desk you learn I teach. This should end this debate once and for all. Hyundais quality IS EQUAL to hondas. Heres the PROOF! from USA TODAY! WARNING If you are to good to handle the truth don't look.

http://www.usatoday.com/money/autos/2003-03-11-cr-picks_x.htm

Spin that!!:devil:

Hundays are as bad as KIAs, they're just junk, and by my book expensive junk. I'd rather buy a used BMW for that much money. My neighbor has Hunday and he's lucky as hell he's got that 100,000 mile warrantee. What that article makes me wonder is how much Hundey payed to post up that nonsense. They've lied about other things that they posted about the Tiburon, like hp numbers:rolleyes: ugh!:apuke: I've been in here too long.

Jaws1...yeah man. FxTreme days were great when people tried to bash us. If only Eyescream, Bry, Tommy, Chris H, Red, Random, Rafael, and Onpol were here. Then again...that might be Information Overload if they were all here posting in this thread. *lol*



kaoru-tochiro....your OPINIONS are as bad as your spelling. Try Hooked On Phonics, learn how to read and write, and then go study up some REAL info before spewing the BS you're posting. :rolleyes:

Originally posted by TibOwner
Jaws1...yeah man. FxTreme days were great when people tried to bash us. If only Eyescream, Bry, Tommy, Chris H, Red, Random, Rafael, and Onpol were here. Then again...that might be Information Overload if they were all here posting in this thread. *lol*



kaoru-tochiro....your OPINIONS are as bad as your spelling. Try Hooked On Phonics, learn how to read and write, and then go study up some REAL info before spewing the BS you're posting. :rolleyes:

Since any facts they could possibly use is 10 years old. All they can use is opinons.:rolleyes: Information overload is beyond right.Those guys REALLY know their stuff. But here is way diffrent.

Do you really think they know how much boost a beta 2.0 engine can run on stock internals? NO

Do you also think they know what is the wheel hp of a turbo charged 2nd gen tiburon with a 50 shot on beta 2.0 stock internals? NO

Do you think they know what Tuscani, F2 Evolution or turbulance is? NO
NO and NO
Thats my point. I would be stupid to talk smack about a subject I don't know. Random and the rest know 10 times what I know. I would be stupid to argue against what they know. But here some haven't figured that out yet. rolleyes: But it is still fun watching them try.:D

http://www.consumeraffairs.com/automotive/hyundai_stalling.htm

http://www.consumeraffairs.com/automotive/hyundai_trans.html

http://www.consumeraffairs.com/automotive/hyundai_misc.html

http://www.thecomplaintstation.com/h/hyundai_toc.htm


http://pub108.ezboard.com/fhyundaisantafemessageboardfrm83.showMessage?topic ID=495.topic

since you god damn idiots wanna talk shit and post weblinks, here are a few for you. just a few of over 790 hits i got when typing in hyundai complaints. keep talking amongst yourselves. most people who make mistakes (like buying a hyundai) admit to it afterwards. you idiots come on here and talk about a dead subject while everybody else is rolling their eyes at you. ok your RIGHT, hyundais are great cars, we should all sell our cars and buy hyundais lol. i once saw a ford tempo run an 11 second quarter mile. i guess hyundais can do that too.

lol

i'm done w/this one.

Oh wow...should we even bother posting how many things come up when you type in "Honda Complaints." :rolleyes:


Envy is a terrible thing....especially when people realize that their Honda's are not gods gift to the import tuning world anymore... :sleep:

It's funny. I have alot of friends who drive Honda's, and they're all open minded and give props to anyone who has a ride that's up and coming in the import culture. However, most of them agree that a majority of the Honda owners out there are closed minded idiots that don't know jack about the scene. Because if you truly did know what the scene was about, you wouldn't be in here flaming people who drive Hyundai's. Then again...some people are just born as closed minded fools. Nothing you can do about that I suppose.... :rolleyes:

dam that was weak!! Posting links of people who had problems with Hyundais lol! Gee, what would you think would happen if I did a search for
Toyota and complaints
Mazada and complaints
Subaru and complaints
Ford and complaints
BMW and complaints
Mitsubishi and complaints
Dodge and complaints
GM and complaints
and on and on and on

Every manufacture is goning to have problems with there cars at one time or another. One would think that is why there are people called mechanics. Cars will break and they will fix them. WOW!!Amazing but true. :eek:

Here is some from the all mighty lol honda
http://www.thesqueakywheel.com/
www.thecomplaintstation.com/h/honda_toc.htm
www.hondaphil.com/Complaints.asp
www.hondas-parts-direct.co.uk/complaints.htm
www.members.tripod.com/~juan_espero/hype.html
www.members.rogers.com/hondaprelude/complaints.htm
www.sonnax.com/bulletins/tech/T3-EL-597-TS.pdf
www.complaintcenter.com/Complaints_Auto/page5.htm
www.complaints.com/august2002/ www.complaintoftheday.august17.1.htm
www.complaints.com/ complaintofthedayfebruary72001.3.htm
www.jameshoyer.com/news_carwarranty.html
www.geocities.com/motorcity/9790/hondacomplain.htm
www.mylemon.com/Lemon_Car_Complaints.htm
www.earthrenewal.org/are_honda_automobiles_safe_and_r.htm
www.state.hi.us/dcca/rico/lemonlaw2000.htm
www.complaintcenter.com/Complaints_Auto/page4.htm


Is that the best you can come up with? Are you that desperate or grasping at straws?:rolleyes: This is getting very:( by the moment. If you have any shread of self dignity left, give it up.:rolleyes:

Hopefully, people choose a car by preference on just about any feature.

It could be on how the motor is engineered or to even how the cup holders hug (god forbid), but its not because the particular make is better.

I enjoy all kinds of tuning and performance, not just hondas, not even just imports. Show me anything from a nice M3 to a Camaro SS to a 350Z. Every make has something to offer.

You can argue that one car is better than another all day long, its easy. A Corvette is better than a Geo. But when you finally exhaust every point of information on a manufacturers involvement in its many markets of venue, how the motors are aimed and designed, the groups of buyers they're marketed too, and even what kinds of Leagues they devoted R&D to, the arguement is lost. Then consider the experience each co. has and its lost even farther.

I chose honda because im familiar with the motors, I enjoy the way they went about extracting power, the sound of the motors, the way many of them look, and the list goes on. But on nowhere in that list do I say, because hondas rule over all. I can say however that I enjoy hondas better than any other make, and this is the reason I own one. Otherwise, whats the sense in dishin cash on something you just sorta like.

So hopefully you people in here that said one make is better than another used the term loosely, roughly meaning "more entertaining to me." In that case, I thought so.

My six shillings.

And a side note, every co also has highs and lows.

A new Tib V6 will deliver a particular driver a better time than a new Si.
(last weekend i watched a guy struggle to pull high 16s... bad driver but same stands...)

I am very disappointed with the 02 Civic Si, and i doubt im alone, including honda enthusiasts. It would have been a very nice Si if it had at LEAST as much hp as the old GSR teg... considering the continuous variable intake timing and extra displacement... dump the EX civic vtec for the rsx-s and/or B series vtec, just push like 7300 rpms, wouldda been nice.

Oh well, rumors have it the Civic Type-R is on its way. Ill take 200hp for 20Gs. Screw the Si.

Originally posted by C32Bperformance
Hopefully, people choose a car by preference on just about any feature.

It could be on how the motor is engineered or to even how the cup holders hug (god forbid), but its not because the particular make is better.

I enjoy all kinds of tuning and performance, not just hondas, not even just imports. Show me anything from a nice M3 to a Camaro SS to a 350Z. Every make has something to offer.

You can argue that one car is better than another all day long, its easy. A Corvette is better than a Geo. But when you finally exhaust every point of information on a manufacturers involvement in its many markets of venue, how the motors are aimed and designed, the groups of buyers they're marketed too, and even what kinds of Leagues they devoted R&D to, the arguement is lost. Then consider the experience each co. has and its lost even farther.


I chose honda because im familiar with the motors, I enjoy the way they went about extracting power, the sound of the motors, the way many of them look, and the list goes on. But on nowhere in that list do I say, because hondas rule over all. I can say however that I enjoy hondas better than any other make, and this is the reason I own one. Otherwise, whats the sense in dishin cash on something you just sorta like.

So hopefully you people in here that said one make is better than another used the term loosely, roughly meaning "more entertaining to me." In that case, I thought so.

My six shillings. :)

I totally agree with you. Well said! :D

Originally posted by TibOwner

kaoru-tochiro....your OPINIONS are as bad as your spelling. Try Hooked On Phonics, learn how to read and write, and then go study up some REAL info before spewing the BS you're posting. :rolleyes:

I drive a BMW 850csi, and it has a V12 engine. Now, look at what you're driving, to me you're as inferior and insignificant as those bugs that splatter on my windshield. And you thought you were qualifyed to make fun of me?

What!? do you Hyunday people buy those cars cause you love them so much? or because you're all a bunch of poor, mediocre individuals that couldn't tell the difference between a real sports car and a metal box with wheels.

If you really do drive that car, then please explain how someone who's so uneducated and can't spell for crap was able to acquire it. You say I'm inferior to you? Well guess what? You mean nothing to me either because to me...you're just another closed minded fool that acts no better than any other Honda owner, or Toyota owner, or Acura owner or who ever that think they are the best.

Hyundai's owners DON'T think they are the best because we had to climb the ranks to get noticed, just like any other import manufacturer. Now that Hyundai is on it's own, building their own things, we have proven ourselves time after time to have overall better reliability than alot of other manufacturers. Doesn't mean we're the best, doesn't mean we're the worst. Just means that we've done a good job on making some decent vehicles, and not only are sales figures showing that, but it's also starting to show in the Sport Compact Tuning society.

People like you who are closed minded and can't see the light at the end of the tunnel are dinosaurs. You're a dying breed, and the only thin you have in which you think makes you look good is the fact that you can bring up the OLD reputation that certain cars used to have. But here's the thing...just like your culture...your points are old, and lame and have no meaning anymore. So give it up, go educate yourself, learn to see that there are things in this world other than what you're seeing, and then come back when you have a valid point. But until then.... :finger:

Originally posted by kaoru-tochiro


I drive a BMW 850csi, and it has a V12 engine. Now, look at what you're driving, to me you're as inferior and insignificant as those bugs that splatter on my windshield. And you thought you were qualifyed to make fun of me?

What!? do you Hyunday people buy those cars cause you love them so much? or because you're all a bunch of poor, mediocre individuals that couldn't tell the difference between a real sports car and a metal box with wheels.

[quote]I drive a BMW 850csi, and it has a V12 engine. Now, look at what you're driving, to me you're as inferior and insignificant as those bugs that splatter on my windshield. And you thought you were qualifyed to make fun of me?

Maybe you should have spend some of that money on spelling lessons instead.:rolleyes: Its sad really. Actually it's pretty pathetic. So you have a BMW 850csi. I hope you are setting down for this. I don't like Euro Imports I only follow Asian Imports. So by you having a bimmer. Yawn:rolleyes: . If you said you had a Skyline GTR. or a twin turbo Supra or RX-7, then I might have raised an eyebrow or two. Qualified to make fun of you? There's an old saying. people who have to brag about what they have or are, really are insecure about themselves. If you bought your bimmer just so you can feel superior to others, the joke is really on you. What does that say about you? Were you picked on as a child? Is this you way of inacting revenge, like look at me now? You might want to see a strink, the money you spent on your bimmer could have been put to better use like theorpy.;)
Heres a side note. Most people on this site have civics, tiburon, integras, cougars, focuses, neon etc. This cars are what we call SPORTS COMPACTS!!:eek: Theyare diffrent from a 850csi, Mustang, Corvette, Trans AM, etc. Those are SPORTS CARS. We are Sports Compact tuners, which means we are intrested in tuning Sports Compact and not Sport Cars. Get the point.:D ANY TUNER can tune there rides to beat your 850. That is another reason why we have compacts. We can buy a car for a fraction of what you spent, put a little less than a fraction in tuning it and systemactically wipe the floor with your 850 or any other sports car. So I guess what I am saying after all that I wrote is

NOT IMPRESSED!!:rolleyes:

Now go back to you bimmer and say to everyone "Look at me, Look at me"I am better than you, because when it is all said and done I have an overpriced boxy shaped metal thing on wheels and you don't.:smoka:

Hey, relax fellas, I don't have a BMW. I was just trying to see if it was true what I hear about Hyundai drivers, but from reading your posts those nay sayers have been proven wrong.
I actually like the Tiburon, it just looks cool, too bad its front drive though.:smoka:

In any case I'd rather have a hyundai over a BMW, at least it won't break down as much.

Originally posted by 2strokebloke
In any case I'd rather have a hyundai over a BMW, at least it won't break down as much.

that's cause you're poor.:flipa:

Ok I stopped on the first page I will keep reading lol, but anyways, hi redrum (liveforspeed redrum? its gig! hehe), I don't own a hyundai and I must say old hyundais, daewoos (heh ooh wow i havent seen these in north america yet) were poop and perhaps still poop but definetely improving and you know I wouldn't mind getting the I4 tiburon, i mean what the hell why not ;) Looks kinda secksi and has tuning potential. Oh and KIAs are laughable heh, but hey they are not sport super cars mostly cheap family cars with the exception of tiburons which are boyracers, im 18 and u know i wouldnt mind having one, still out of my budget lol damn schooling+no time for a job... well good job not mc hahaha eew fast food.......!

I am not too sure about the eclipse comment though ;) Faster then an eclipse? hmm.. mayvbe the 03, the 03 SUX! The 1G and 2G DSMs are legendary and in my opinion with enough cash spent poor man's ferraris! I got to this thread from the racing>street racing section.. some guy attempting to brag how he beat a tiburon but then.. well it was lots of bullshit lol, I am interested in learning more about tiburons so please if you have any links (non exagerated values, real values, the canadian hyundai site doesnt post specs or something even) please head them this way, I've been spending last two years researching cars its paying off useful knowledge i suppose heh, personal hobby i suppose.

What was I to say.. oh yes, don't bash any car company from wherever it is.. in fact the only car companies that deserve bashing are american car companies because they are the ones encouraging the bashing :P Piece of shit fords suck, in fact american cars really suck lol priding themselves in high end design and quality.. ya right they are just priced them same or more but made out of cheaper and cheaper materials, i remember reading something about car companies on purpose planning to use materials that disentigrate really really fast and brake so to encourage the economy .. pure capitalist heaven... yet they are the ones mostly bashing european and asian cars its sad :P

There are nice and crappy cars in the US, Europe and Asia... Stop insulting a car because its NOT a honda or NOT a ford... :/ Sounds like some uneducated idiots in a high school arguing.. i can see the arguments right in front of me now. "IF ITS NOT A HONDA IT SUX MAN IT SUX! FUCK YOU!" lol... when I mentioned to a friend that I was interested in buying a 1G Eagle Talon TSI AWD Turbo car he stopped talking to me because it wasn't a honda.. lol only way to regain his 'friendship' is by getting a honda or something hehe... sad little man :P Also Toyotas are sweet cars, hondas are pretty cool (i don't like the fact that its a FWD car despite it being capable of pumping power what's the use if so much energy is lost...), I love all sorts of cars and I wish not to be biased but some are better then others. Hyundais have peaked my interest despite knowing what kind of poopy cars they were and if someone heard the name hyunda they'd immediately crack some pointless joke. Oh and another thing.. a few other cases of people bashing Jap cars for example, this kid at my school was all over some Infiniti model.. but hated Nissans.. when I told him who was behind Infiniti he insulted me. Same goes for Lexus cars (same guy lol) but he hated Toyotas.. OH and Honda = Acura ;)

One last note, my paps when he was younger used to tune cars as a hobby. First we had a volvo 360glt -- probably something neither north americans or asians heard about) it looks like an econobox in some ways but it was actually quite successful in rallies, championships and things like that at the time sure tuned but hey..anywho my paps made it run 0-60 in <6sec it was this was 92' (stock 10s this is early 80s) and all this on a low budget. Later got a BMW 323i and it was NA but lots and lots and lots of internal engine work. Anywho now that I look back I am thinking hmm those crappy cars? But damn they were mean :/ My paps was unbeatable and I know this lol.. i remember a rich neighbour of ours always had these expensive cars, he had a tuned 280zx by the way, he was always like "HOW DO YOU BEAT ME WITH THAT!" lol... shit I remember the thrill of him driving 180-220KM/h when I was even <10 lol.. the thing is thats not gona happen in north america :P This was back in north africa, libya, the roads are built by germans and better then the autobahn in germany, higher qual because of necessaity (harder weather conditions, therefore higher qual roads). It was glass like a race track :D So uhm.. that sorta worked out that way lol... someone was bashing the volvo 360glt few days ago but probably never even saw one.. I just kinda saw a correlation between this topic and that one heh. Oh and we were in a crash 100+ on the side and u know my glass never even broke it just was bent somehow o_O not shattered. The volvo had double piping or whatever thats correctly called in the doors. We didnt even have airbags :P We survived ;) Did the car survive? yes... but my paps just bought a new one and transfered the modified parts over, would ev been more expensive to fix up. Oh and hondas reliable? Hmm.. did honda say that? Same goes for ford, in commercials they claim all these things "as good as a BMW", "safer then a volvo" lol.... Volvo I don't know how it is now.. it was way ahead of the game in safety back in the day for sure.. sad thing is ford bought them out.. can only mean trouble

Oh and I can name names of cars its just imature though.. Craparo/Slowmaro (Camaro), Ricestang/Rustang (Mustang), Goindown/Slowndown (honda), Slowmow(Volvo), Pisson (Nissan), KIA=killed in acceleration, so on and so forth. Ford = fucked over real driving. blabla dumb and imature :/ Point is stop bashing each other.. sheesh this is suppose to be a car enthusiast forum! I am not a hyundai owner but I am outraged and the attitude of this :/ People bash european cars just because they are not american or japanese, people bash american cars because they are not technologically advanced and american companies just know how to buy out other companies not build car themselves, know how to earn money and not build cars, people bash japanese cars just because they are japanaese (racist assholes), and because they have low displacment and are smaller :/

Don't forget to give me some hyundai links please :D I'm interested in Hyundais I wish to learn more about them. Sorry for writing so much I get carried away :D

And price is a factor.. I mean cmon... if I had the money id just get myself a mclaren f1 :/ screw all of you lol.. ah well :( Lots of bias without real truth :D

You're obviously confused....the new Tiburon GT V6 is solid. I've driven its' competitors and there is no question it exceeds these cars in many catagories. Perhaps you have some other issue with this car. None of the things you stated are true!!!!

Just wanted to let eveyone know how wrong your remarks are and let them decide for themselves. I'm confident your opinion will be your own.

No one has answered my question yet ;) Any tiburon tuning sites out there? Tiburon information sites. etc.. cmon :P

I'd say hyundai has made some good progress and they do FINALLY make some decent RELIABLE cars. ANY cars can be made into 11-12 sec cars with aftermarket parts and hyundai is definitely capable of that. As stock to stock, they do use cheap matrials to build the cars so the general ride comfort is not as good as other cars, like BMW...I dun even know why some are comparing it like this...it's like comparing civic to bmw300 series:rolleyes:

Following is my opinion and I am not forcing it on anyone...

I personally HATE hyundai to death, but I do acknowledge that they do make a dcent car. My props to them. BUT please don't comfuse it to that fact it's a economical cars. The powerplant on that hyundai is ....not sufficient. It's not the best v6 we've seen....actually one of the worst not to mention that hyundai has lied about it's lack of truth in what power it produces. I'd be kinda mad if I was the owner of the new tib and it being compared to 4-bangers on car magazine against si and svt focus.

I'd never buy hyundai. I'd rather get a bus pass or ride a bike so I can save money before I buy any hyundai cars, or any korean cars. but I don't want to be ignorant and I do awknowledge that they do make some decent cars NOW. Also give them props for world rallys. They do very well, but that's another ballgame on field within cars.

And one quick thought on hyundai coming onto the import scene:

When is hyundai going to make a STOCK RWD or AWD drive cars that produces 250WHP or more? When are they going to have a STOCK high 13 low 14 car with the same reliability?

Sure aftermarket parts cab make cars fast, but to get the respect, you gotta be on the top of the field on many field. They have so far getting a good feel on the semi-sports/economical cars, so lets see what they can do now. When they make cars comparable to that of other car company's flagship cars, then I might give it a different respect. Why do you think honda , nissan, toyota, bmw, mercedes...all of them have respect cause they have made a mark on this business with their own unique cars.

So lets see what hyundai can do coming years. It's their chance to show the non-believers, or they can humiliate themselves if they don't take this chance.

So i'll be patient and try not to be a hater.

Originally posted by kaoru-tochiro


that's cause you're poor.:flipa:


:rolleyes:

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Originally posted by kaoru-tochiro


that's cause you're poor





heh, it's all what u see. If you had 50k$ would you buy hyundai? Some would, but I'd never do that. Some people like to float on their own water and that's cool. BUT don't be so defensive when people are critical on ur decision cause that's really not too normal. On the other hand, those people should just shut up cause that's their own business.

so unless you feel like being a immature schmuck, please keep comments like that to yourself...

oh, there are some hyundai forums, but I am not impressed. I just don't understand why hyundai people in general bash on honda. I totally understand honda-ricer bashing, but honda in general is an amazing innovating company. :rolleyes:

Sorry u feel that way but for one my tib has not a done anything that you say they do. For two like everyone else said it's your opinion not everyone's.
There are a lot of cars out there that do suck but who cares don't buy it.
And by the way my Tib done just fine in the snow!!! :)
Have A Nice Day. :flipa:

Originally posted by gigatron
No one has answered my question yet ;) Any tiburon tuning sites out there? Tiburon information sites. etc.. cmon :P newtiburon.com is the most informative site out there for the new tibs, some info for older tibs!

That taxi argument Kegro came up with is just so f***** idiotic! Here (Norway) Mercedes Benz (C-class, E-class and sometimes even S-class) is the most common taxi, but that doesn't have horseshit to do with the fact that they are bad cars.. Quite on the contrary, means they are good and have great reability.. Korean taxi's are crap (I've lived there as well), not because of the cars, but because they run on LPG or some gas, which is put in the luggage room, so you won't even get a single briefcase into the boot.. When travelling with my mother, father and sister, we were forced to take THREE taxis to get the luggage to our hotel, included us, ofcoarse..

The Tiburon has even been compared to a Porsche Boxter! And although I agree they are in two different categories, I'd take the Tiburon/Coupe, because the price is just unbeatable.. and except for that thrashy grille, its a beautiful car!

Originally posted by edonis

The Tiburon has even been compared to a Porsche Boxter! And although I agree they are in two different categories, I'd take the Tiburon/Coupe, because the price is just unbeatable.. and except for that thrashy grille, its a beautiful car!

:spit:

Man! Y ya'll hatin', if ya'll hate so much, y not race it and see it for your self huh?

Like someone posted, this thread is ugly, hehe, is really funny to see how honda and hyundai drivers insult between theirselves in a inmature way. I started this post because I wanted to let you guys know about what a well known car magazine had an impression with the car, I know most of it are opinions of people that know their jobs and some others are facts, is just that they say some stuff that they wouldn´t say about other manufacters, oh, let me guess, they dislike hyundai too!. I recognize I over reacted a little on my opinions, I like the Tiburon actually, is nice, has decent power, it´s ver affordable, would I buy one? No, I just don´t trust a Hyundai.
By the way, someone said that the Elantra was better car than the Civic, that´s really dumb, just beacuse HE has an Elantra he can say just what comes out of his mouth. It only takes to step in a Civic an in the Elantra as well, I´m not saying this last one its a bad car, well it´s kinda ugly and unrefined IMO, but the plastics quality is below average for example.
And at the end, just drive what you want and what you can afford, no one can judge you because of it. :bigthumb:

Originally posted by 03tibkane
newtiburon.com is the most informative site out there for the new tibs, some info for older tibs!


Actually, New Tiburon is NOT the most informative site. Hyundai Performance.com and Hyundai Aftermarket.com is. Some of the most knowledgable people in the Hyundai scene such as Random, Red, Cheuk, Onpol, Rob, Autobot, Rudy, Visions, and so on are all on those 2 forums.



Anyway, for people who are saying Hyundai are not reliable, Consumer Reports came out with their new ratings a couple of months back, and Hyundai was tied with Honda in the number 2 spot. And the Hyundai Elantra has been rated as the #1 best Sedan under $15,000 for the last 2 years in a row. Now granted, some people might disagree with these ratings and reports, but the matter is...these are pure facts. Some professionals who are paid alot of money to take alot of time, and look into all aspects of a specific make and model, came up with these results. I doubt they were biased, and one of the things that people have to look at is....the consumer report ratings on reliability come from specific stats on manufacturers. They group them into categary's such as how often they break down and so on, and that's how they come up with alot their results. So, yeah....you might think Hyundai's a junk...but when you look at the overall stats, you can't disagree with the numbers. Hyundai's are good cars, reliable, there's a TON of aftermarket support for them, and just because they were shit back in the day, doesn't mean that they are now.

Just my 2 cents.

Thats interesting, but its pretty hard to say that anything is really a fact, since facts are determined by a person with a specific point of view.

Anyways, to reply an earlier post by akhedraki, you can compare honda to hyundai, but honda sucks?> thats laughable, do you sell what your smokin on ebay?

I'm new here but not new to the 03 tiburon. I own one and I race people all the time. I've beaten rsx's civics of all kinds(there jokes on the street), celica gts's(pretty slow as well) contour svt's, some 5.0's just to name a few. No bs. civics and mustang gt's are so overrated. I will try and upload some vids of me doing so. My car is not stock but still. So don't dis tiburon's unless u raced one and smoked it yourself.

I wonder what would win this or a civic si? Probly the civic:lol:

http://www.roadracemotorsports.com/tibby.htm

I hate hyundai with all my guts and then some. But I try to at least repect the car as economy cars. Elantra trying to compete civics, santa fe trying to compete ford explorer, tibby trying to compete si, gts...the sport compact cars. That is all very cool.

That been said, I'd rather lick a toilet then buy a tibby.

I dun care if its cheap, and decently equipped blah blah blah. No one will ever see my point as hyudai is NOT as of now a performance car producers. Tibby is just another wanna be trying-to-fit-into-import-sport-compact-maket with their cheap and annoying marketing and catchy warrenty.

I always say this to people, when I try to express my points about hyundai. where is your flagship car? All hyundai is trying to do is outsell other car by using cheap materials and enginerring and you guys got no goals as of what you guys are trying to accomplish as a car comapny.

Hyundai as a car company is doing ok, but you guys got no tradition. That's why I laughed when I see some people comparing BMW, porche...come on reality check. I'm not saying that hyundai has no potential, but now is not the right time to compare this.

To people who own tibby, great. I hope you enjoy the car, I'm being honest and not sarcastic in any means. Just when you folks like to bash on honda or something realize that honda cars are very well engineered. Take NSX in example. 280hp engine that can run 12 secstock on 1/4 mile. That's engineering.

Honda ricers deserve the bash, not the actual honda. Just keep that in ur minds...

ok, I'm out and ya all enjoy ur vehicles, whatever that is:iceslolan

oh btw bob, yur tib not being stock is in fact what makes the diff.

Next time i race a tib ill video tape it for yah...

and i doubt the tib will have been through the abuse i put my b16 through every day

Originally posted by Bob Oralee
I'm new here but not new to the 03 tiburon. I own one and I race people all the time. I've beaten rsx's civics of all kinds(there jokes on the street), celica gts's(pretty slow as well) contour svt's, some 5.0's just to name a few. No bs. civics and mustang gt's are so overrated. I will try and upload some vids of me doing so. My car is not stock but still. So don't dis tiburon's unless u raced one and smoked it yourself.
I have no problem with ppl driving tiberon's. I also have no problem with ppl preffering tiberon's over other car's. Although I do have a problem with ppl calling mustangs and civics slow, please limit your Honda/Mustang bashing. Honda engineering is amazing, and the Ford Mustang in my opinion has always been an outstanding automobile, and is nothing to be underestimated.

hybrid, did we know each other in a past life? cuz you may aswell have stolen the words outta my mouth.

Hey I didn't mean to bash on Hondas in general, just civics. the new minevan ones. I like the old hatch back si's. And the acura nsx is an amazing piece of machinery. I like mustang cobras and saleen mustangs because they're fast as hell. But I don't like mustang gt's there not fast just loud. By the way everyone should get there facts straight on 0-60 and 1/4 mile times. here's a good reference.

http://www.car-videos.com/performance/

what the fuck are you driving a kia my scooter could eat you up i think you are an underpaid low income ass who can't even afford the "cheap" tiburon... why hate when you can't even play?:thefinger

Originally posted by Bob Oralee
Hey I didn't mean to bash on Hondas in general, just civics. the new minevan ones. I like the old hatch back si's. And the acura nsx is an amazing piece of machinery. I like mustang cobras and saleen mustangs because they're fast as hell. But I don't like mustang gt's there not fast just loud. By the way everyone should get there facts straight on 0-60 and 1/4 mile times. here's a good reference.

http://www.car-videos.com/performance/
Well my vehicle is a civic not a new civic, but many ppl like the body style of the new civics, then again many ppl can't stand it. Kinda like some ppl dislike the tiburon, and some love it. As for the Mustang GT......nothing about that car is slow. (260 hp 4.6L V8 stock)

ok bob, theres no such thing as factual 1/4 mile and 0-60 times... Theres factual horsepower, factual torque, factual weight, factual head room... Those times ive read on there were pretty specific and ive never seen any of the cars on that list run those times in real life.

I can tell you from experience, Good Luck pulling 15.8s in a stocker civic si like mine, youll see low 16s really.

Sentra Spec Vs SER 2002, same story, low 16s not low 15s.

The WRX running low 14s is sorta funny, cuz i watch them run high to mid 15s nearly every time i see one.

Same with the S2000, low 15s.

DSMs... the buddy of mine with the spec v killed a GS-T Eclipse with his 16.1 last trip to the 1320, the gst ran a 16.8...

The Corvette ZO6 runs 12.5s according to that site, and just last week I watched one with a custom exhaust run a 13.3...

(Just to name a few that people generally centralize on with really fast quarter times)

Basically Im just annoyed with people saying a car runs a particular 1/4 mile time, and a particular 0-60, etc etc when not only are they generally longer times that they run every day, they are usually very, VERY inconsistent with each other, even between stockers.

what site do you get a turbo for 1900?:confused:

alright I have a 2003 Hyundai Tiburon GT, and from my own experiences the car is very reliable. I've taken it up to 130MPH and its pretty stable. I'm not saying that its the best car out there, but its definitely good for the money that's paid for it. Furthermore, the Hyundai warranty is 60k miles bumper to bumper, and I can say that's one of the longest warranty in the industry. Try finding another company that has a 60k bumper to bumper.

Originally posted by Chrometib
what the fuck are you driving a kia my scooter could eat you up i think you are an underpaid low income ass who can't even afford the "cheap" tiburon... why hate when you can't even play?:thefinger

Chrometib you are truly pathetic. I shouldn't even acknowledge you because you are beneath me but I will. Your car is a joke. My 03 tib gt is fully loaded 6 speed with leather sunroof every option not to mention the $3000 that has been invested in aftermarket shit. Your car even turbo would barely keep up with me. You have the most femenine looking car on the streets. What does that feel like?:lol:

if you like hundais click that link :eek: CLICK HERE IF YOU ARE A RICER (http://www.goingfaster.com/spo/you_might_be_a_ricer_if.html)


moving on this debate is over. if some dipstick wants to waste his money ona hundai let him. its prolly mommys car anyway. think of it this way. if you own decent cars why are you and i wasting air on this bag of crap.

the test is when he takes his fiberglass body pos to the 1/4 mile against an Cobra, Saleen, or even a Civic Si and gets his butt laughed at by everyone who watches him lose.

NEW TOPIC move on.

Originally posted by agapecrusader
if you like hundais click that link :eek: CLICK HERE IF YOU ARE A RICER (http://www.goingfaster.com/spo/you_might_be_a_ricer_if.html)


moving on this debate is over. if some dipstick wants to waste his money ona hundai let him. its prolly mommys car anyway. think of it this way. if you own decent cars why are you and i wasting air on this bag of crap.

the test is when he takes his fiberglass body pos to the 1/4 mile against an Cobra, Saleen, or even a Civic Si and gets his butt laughed at by everyone who watches him lose.

NEW TOPIC move on.

I wouldn't keep posting if my car sucked and was slow. If you knew me you know I'm not bull shitting about my car being fast. with ca intake full exhaust fidenza flywheel iridium spark plugs i ran a 14.6 1/4 mile time. It all comes down to speed and if your car is faster than I give you props so no more bashin on tibs(exept for Chrometib he's a loser and a compulsive lier:nutkick: )

lol i've also seen a twin engined tiburon. i never said you couldn't, i meant at what cost???? it's obvious you can make a yugo a 9 second car, but at WHAT COST. i give hyundai alot of respect and I admire the way they've moved up, but w/alot less money and headaches u can make a honda, acura, toyota, nissan go faster for cheaper, and it'll last longer.


Just remember that no matter what you say about a tiburon being more expensive to do mods and less reliable than a honda......it has a 10 yr 100k warranty on the powertrain....beat that honda owners.......i can blow the engine, and get a free one.......what a crappy deal huh.....and if you think about howmuch less a tiburon is than a rsx and such, you can throw a supercharger on a tibby and still be under the prices of the rsx and nissans and mitsus, and blow them away

This is funny as hell. When ricers talk, nobody listens or they just don't care. Heres some more of shock to what you thought you knew about Hyundai and the GK. Facts override Smack. :nono:
http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/coupe/112_0207_shark/index1.html
If you still can't handle the truth after this, then your in denial. :screwy:
I am not saying hyundai is the greatest car on earth, but it is nowhere near it was 10 years ago eithier. :nono:

I happen to own a body shop in yonkers. So i get to drive dozens of different cars a month. From a 1982 corvette to a z06 and all the pieces of crap in between. i should prob rephrase that cuz it kinda implies that corvettes are the great one... but they are not.

from my expirence, the 03 tib is a god damn beautiful ride for 20gs.
sure the acura rsx type s is a little faster (maybe a length and a half goin a few blocks on a streight away) but that is only the case if the driver can drive the damn car... but honestly.. for 9,000 dollars more i dont think preformence wize that 1.5 car lengths is worth it. if you put 5 grand into a 03 tib it will leave that rsx 2 lights back in the dust by the time it works up to 80mph.

as tested by motor trend http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/coupe/112_0207_shark/index.html
"Glancing at our records, its 7.0-sec time falls between those of the much-admired Acura RSX Type-S (6.7) and the oh-so-popular Toyota Celica GT-S at 7.3 sec."
anyone who spends 9g more for .3 secs of of a 7sec run is an a$$ hole, lol. u better like the way that mo-fo looks or something.
if ur goin from 4.6 to 4.3 thats another story.

hyundais were once total crap... TOTAlly.. now i'd rather be in a tib than a bunch of other more expensive cars. and please take note of the pro rally circuit... the 03tib is # 1, lol. a 465 or hp so 4wd i4 engine/tranny hyundai pastes the subaru wrx which as a street car comes with what 300hp?

http://www.usatoday.com/money/autos/2003-03-11-cr-picks_x.htm

CR's RELIABILITY RANKINGS
For 2002 models, the average was 18 problems per 100 vehicles, vs. 21 in 2001.
Brand Problems per
100 vehicles
Toyota 10
Honda 11
Hyundai 11
Subaru 13
Nissan 15
BMW 20
Chrysler 20
Mazda 20
Volkswagen 20
General Motors 21
Mercedes-Benz 22
Ford Motor 23
Source: Consumer Reports

this is for the 02 hyundais... i personally think the 02's were still CRAP lol. but drivin around an 03 tib swayed me on all that noise. nice ride.

bro you drive a fuckin daewoo...talk about cheap, slow and garbage....i drive tsx and my friend drives a tiburon..after putting intake on hiscar...it sound amazing...so before you start reading facts thats are opinions...check it out yourself

yea most people in here dont know shit about what there talking about,......but by the way that ricer pagewas type funny....but...the facts and the pros state that its made very well..and it even performs better to na mods than most jap cars.....so..if youread then youhave no real argument...stop tlaking about that hyundai shit...years ago everyone was saying the same thing about honda and nissan/dihastu.........i find these forums funny as hell with everyones bs hp gains and shit.....a civic owner was trying to concince me that his car was a inline 6 ...cmon man.....people read a mag..go to car shows...get cars for dummies..do something

Any car can be fast, but it's hard to find a car that is fast and looks good while doing it. I don't know a lot about the v6 delta tibs but i've seen them over 300hp and doing low 13's. But IMO the real way to go is the Inline 4. I mean the engines are stronger then hell. they have the WRC tiburon running a Inline 4 with a T28 and it's getting just short of 400hp. Note thats the same turbo as the skyline runs but it uses 2 of them. Not a very big turbo. I love my tib and i've had many car from a ford focus to 3 300zx's and a cobra mustang. So far this is my favorit. So just because you don't like them doesn't mean they suck. I don't like honda's and acura's but they don't suck otherwise you would see everyone compairing the other sport compact to the Type R. Though I do think that a statement like that is kinda funny coming from somone with a 98 Daewoo. I mean nothing says power like a 98 Daewoo. Whats your hp rating and 1/4 mile time?

1. The cockpit smells of unpleasant chemicals,
2. The doors slam with a junky note,
3. The ears and the seat of the pants report a heavy-footed ride.
4. The interior at cruising speeds feels with a dull roar rather than 5. mechanical music.
5. Lots of impact noise up from the pavement.
6. The steering is lifeless and lacking in the feel of precision that makes a great sporting car.
7. The gearbox requires heavy effort.
8. The lever motion is trusty. We always grabbed the right gear BUT the action is not fun.
9. The engine lacks thrills.
10. It peaks fairly low, far below the 6500 rpm redline, and offers no encouragement above 5000.
11. None of us liked the interior.
12. The seats are supportive but lacking all traces of plushness.
13. We noticed small riples in the door stampings and elsewhere on the exterior, a sign of unsophisticated dies in the manufacturing plant.
14. The Tiburon is priced where it belongs (cheap)
15. It doesn´t comes with all-season tires like its competitors (It can´t go on the snow).
16. The rear seat comfort and space with 2 passengers are worst than average. Same goes for the ease of entry/exit (3 out of 10) ´´


I'll address each point individually.

1. no it doens't
2. no they don't
3. no they... well okay yeah
4. nope it's pretty much quiet
5. yeah, but then that the compromise for such stiff shocks
6. kinda
7. I wouldn't know
8. I wouldn't know
9. well duh. But you drive a Daewoo, I think you'd find it VERY exciting :lol:
10. see number 9
11. I don't care what they liked, I like it
12 .plush seats blow donkeys. supportive seats are way more comfortable, because they give support. Duh
13. Cry me a freakin river, what do you expect for the price?
14. since when is a cheap pricetag a downfall? :rolleyes:
15. buy some
16. I don't really care

dude,

give it up. your comparing a friggin HYUNDAI to a HONDA, and saying it's a better car??? Is that why the only way they can sell anything is to offer a 100k warranty?? Where has anyone that knows anything about cars (obviously not you, you purchased a HYUNDAI) said that a HYUNDAI is even comparable to a HONDA. It's ok that you made a terrible choice when you chose the HYUNDAI over the HONDA or MITSU or NISSAN or TOYOTA. I can go over thousands of cars that have 400+ hp after 10k+ spent on them too, but when it comes down to it, the average person would be smart enough NOT to buy a piece of shit HYUNDAI. Btw if you want to take this thread somewhere that it'll get more hits, post a subject HYUNDAI vs HONDA or any other company and lets see where it heads.



Only got one thing to say. HONDA, NISSAN, CHEVY, FORD or any car manufacturer offers a 10 year 100k warranty except Hyundai.. Why?? Cause they back up what they make and guarantee it to that point. No other company has the sac to back up it's work like that. Hyundai believes in it's work and it is proven.

-nuff said

man, you guys are into it... its not the tiburon that bothers me, its these kids who think they are the god of the earth with their old sonatas and other cars like it...kia...daewoo....and godamn neons, these cars are nothing but econo-boxes, cheaply made, and it reflects in the quality. So the tiburon gets newly restyled, almost like a ferrari maranello, i like how they are trying to get a piece of the hot new market, but i cant forget the fact that its a hyundai, i mean, there are new hyundais out there(2-3 years old) with the whole muffler system falling off, paint faded, and i say godamn, i wont ever buy one. Im a nissan guy, always have been, always will be. I noticed no-one compared the tib to any nissan, with due cause, there is no comparison whatsoever. I like the tibs new styling, and the duals were a nice touch, but they are brand new now, who knows how they will hold up. Either way, it will take hyundai a long time to recover ground from the image they have been under. i still would never buy one as long as nissan exists:silly2:

as for modding the tib, i doubt the bottom end could hold 300+ for very long, and who would want to void their 10 year warranty? thats a long time to wait to mod a car, especially when the chances are quite good that it will be in the junk yard by then anyway


86 300zx turbo @ 12.5psi


I own a 2003 Tiburon GT 6 Speed and it's a hell of a car.. But that's not what this reply is about. This is reply deals with the comment you made on dodge neon.

Don't get me wrong I don't like neons either but I dare you to mess with the Neon SRT4, your 86 300zx would get ripped. As a Tiburon owner I will gladly say that a Neon SRT4 would rip my ass, cause it would.

Before you clown a car do some research on it. Cause Dodge is proven itself with the SRT4 Neon.

Well it´s obvious Hyundai is not a great car or whatever. I already told my experience with one of them, brand new, when I rented one on a vacation, it was awfull, the engine warmed up too much and the steering wheel shaked awfully around 80mph, etc etc, never more! I truly dont recommended.


Yet you drive a freakin Daewoo..

yeah man not a prob. i got my rsx-s for 20k american, i think retail is about 23,650 on it. the fastest time posted was 0-60 in 6.1 seconds i don't remember but i believe it was motor trend that posted that time. i put an air intake in mine and w/a hondata ecu chip the car will be making about 220 to the wheels. keep in mind the wrx makes about 227 only to the flywheel but to the wheels it only makes 168.0 hp@ 5733 rpm @ 12.1 psi. hey did you check out the new dodge neon srt? now that car is just sick. 0-60 in 5.5 seconds and under 20k. just no beating that. but it's still a neon (HI!)


I hope your not talking about the WRX STI. Cause it has 300 HP not 227. Put your rsx-s up on that. Put your rsx-s up against a SRT4.. Can ya say bye bye.

i would consider buying a neon srt4 if they seriously remodeled the car. i think it looks like poop.

i would consider buying a neon srt4 if they seriously remodeled the car. i think it looks like poop.


Yeah, i could agree with you there, looks could be improved. At the least put some better rims on it.. Maybe a body kit. But with that kinda power I might just let the looks slide a little. Hey, they did do ok with the raised wing though.. You would think with a car with that kinda power the wing would be functional like that new chrysler crossfire sports car.

99.99999% of the time, wings do more harm then good on FWD cars.

I own a 2003 Tiburon GT 6 Speed and it's a hell of a car.. But that's not what this reply is about. This is reply deals with the comment you made on dodge neon.

Don't get me wrong I don't like neons either but I dare you to mess with the Neon SRT4, your 86 300zx would get ripped. As a Tiburon owner I will gladly say that a Neon SRT4 would rip my ass, cause it would.

Before you clown a car do some research on it. Cause Dodge is proven itself with the SRT4 Neon.

Ha ha ha, as a matter of fact, budd, i recently went to the track, and, well, you are damn wrong. There was a neon srt4 there, right off the showroom floor. True, the car would beat mine, if mine was stock, however, at about 12psi, ive got a few tenths on him in the 1/8 mile. Stuff that in the old pipe and smoke it, you supporter of crappy neons.
:icon16: :icon16: :loser: :loser: :screwy: :screwy: :nono:
timeslips anyone??

HAHAHAHA
ur pretty funny nismo
u think it's an accomplishment to beat the SRT4 on the 1/8?
it would probably be if u were racing the SRT4 and your car was stock. dude any car can beat a SRT4 if it have mods on it.
u talkin like u jus made a huge accomplishment

actually, i wouldnt say that. the srt-4 actually made higher numbers on some dynos than the manufacturer clained hp. it is a fast machine. fast enough to beat the wrx.

the sti?
or regular wrx

the sti... hell no. just the regular one.

HAHAHAHA
ur pretty funny nismo
u think it's an accomplishment to beat the SRT4 on the 1/8?
it would probably be if u were racing the SRT4 and your car was stock. dude any car can beat a SRT4 if it have mods on it.
u talkin like u jus made a huge accomplishment


If youll notice in my original post, i did agree that the srt4 would take me if mine was stock, i do, however think it is a pretty significant accomplishment based on the level of mods i have though. You see, i bought the car for 3k over three years ago, and you claim that any car with mods can beat an srt4, yeah, like a few G's in performance mods, i have, ummm... lets see, oh yeah, $300! A $3300 car beatin up on a 18k car isnt half bad, not to mention i have much better styling. I would like you to find a car that you can mod with that much money and beat some shit, mean while, having your tibs ass handed to you by the next $3000 that walks down the street.
:icon16: try again

unfortunately,
ur claim has no merit
unless u show any proof
so give me a dyno or something

If youll notice in my original post, i did agree that the srt4 would take me if mine was stock, i do, however think it is a pretty significant accomplishment based on the level of mods i have though. You see, i bought the car for 3k over three years ago, and you claim that any car with mods can beat an srt4, yeah, like a few G's in performance mods, i have, ummm... lets see, oh yeah, $300! A $3300 car beatin up on a 18k car isnt half bad, not to mention i have much better styling. I would like you to find a car that you can mod with that much money and beat some shit, mean while, having your tibs ass handed to you by the next $3000 that walks down the street.
:icon16: try again

You're so full of shit...you probably got raped by an SRT-4 and now since you can't beat them on the strip you come on the web to flame. :loser:

unfortunately,
ur claim has no merit
unless u show any proof
so give me a dyno or something

First of all, whats a dyno sheet gonna tell you? My car is 205hp and 227torque stock, if you care to look it up, and unfortunately, i have not got to dyno yet, but the estimated hp and torque at 12psi are 265 and 290 respectively. These numbers are based off of a fellow z31.com members stats for the exact same car with the exact same mods. But the power to weight is the real factor. The srt4 was running 9.5xx seconds in the eighth mile, dont know if this is what they should be running, but thats what he was running. I had a 9.3 and a few 9.4's at 75mph, the crap is that i sent them to z31.com, but they didnt post them, anyway, some other times are posted here

http://www.z31.com/times.shtml

To SEXY BEAST

, and if you read the profiles with mods in them, youll see that im not so full of shit after all , there was also a 350z there running 9.3's, and i was so wanting to beat him, but i guess its an intercooler and more boost before i can do that.

nismo u said that u got the car for 3000
and u put 300 dollars worth of mods on it.
1. Your car is used so it probably is a piece of shit.
2. How much could 300 dollars of mods help.
ur either a lying sack of shit.
or ur a really talented driver. in which if u are, u get my respect.
but unfortunately i dont' think that u could beat a SRT4 with only 300 dollars worth of mods on a used 300zx
so i think i'll go with the sack of shit.

nismo u said that u got the car for 3000
and u put 300 dollars worth of mods on it.
1. Your car is used so it probably is a piece of shit.
2. How much could 300 dollars of mods help.
ur either a lying sack of shit.
or ur a really talented driver. in which if u are, u get my respect.
but unfortunately i dont' think that u could beat a SRT4 with only 300 dollars worth of mods on a used 300zx
so i think i'll go with the sack of shit.


First of all, USED means nothing!! There ARE people out there that actually take care of their vehicles and just because it didnt just roll off the showroom floor doesnt mean its destroyed. The good thing is that the 300zx was nissan's flagship, so it was built with quality, and it shows in its old age.
If you want proof that my car is not a piece of shit, go here for some pics of it. Its 17 years old and it runs great with 172000 miles on it, and the interior is very nice. You would be hard pressed to find a car as old as it with as many miles it has, in the same condition.

http://www.rose-hulman.edu/~boppcj

Its my homepage. Secondly, you seem to know very little about turbo cars. The beauty about a turbo is that all you really have to do is open up the intake and exhaust, and then boost it as far as it will go. I put a $100 k&n intake on it (pics), a $50(i think theres pics of it too)manual boost controller, and about a $150 muffler, and it cost nothing to gut the catalytic converter. After thats done, crank the boost, thats it.

You can buy 300zx's all day long for 3000, the problem is finding one, at least, around here it is.

not bad at all nismo
i take back my stupid sack of shit comment
although i'm still a bit skeptic on the part of you beating a SRT4 with only the stuff u hav.
and also your car having 172000 miles on it.
and ur wrong about USED MEANS NOTHING!!!
cuz unfortunately, it does mean something.
u wouldn't buy a 300zx for 3000$$ if it was in good condition. sorri. it's kinda hard for me to believe.
i would hav to actually see this to believe

Your right, used does mean something, but there's a sucker born every minute, and you can steal some cars from people for a lot less than their worth. And about paying 3000 for my car, it was actually a midrange price. Because the cars are between 14-19 years old, the blue book prices are low(<2500), and some people just dont know what they have. Take this recent experience of mine for example: There was this 95 240sx for sale, base model, 5 speed, around 80k miles on it. Body was good, title good, interior immaculate, motor ran A-1, drove nice, no rust. The guy wanted $1700 for it!!! The car was worth $3900 as it sat there. If i had anywhere close to that amount of money, i would have snatched it up and sold it for a mad profit. These deals are all over, its just about the time and the place.

And actually i made $500 on a 240 i bought about a month ago, a 91 se, bought it for 1500 adn sold it for 2000 with just some soap and water.

Props to you as well for being respectable. Most people are just stubborn and think everyone on the net is lying about shit.

What i need to do is take my friends video camera to the track and then transfer the mpeg's to the comp to upload, that would be phatty.

that would be a hott video if u could actually tape u racing against a SRT4

I have to agree. I also own a Tiburon (Which is my second. First was a 99) which is still in good shape. Since we've own them I've never had to take either car into the shop for anything. They are great running car and I think they run smooth (the cabin noise is one thing, but I deal with that). Most of the time people who complain about Hyundai's are people who have 1) never owned or driven one or 2) haven't owned one in the last 10 years. My family used to own a 86 Excel when I was a kid. Took that car at least 8 years before it started to act funny.

About the warrenty, did some people ever think that the warrenty is just another added incentive to buy the car? Hmm?? You didn't?? Well it is. For a car that runs so well, I think that the warrenty is great. Makes it so I don't have to worry about going to Jlube for an oil and filter change and spend my money on Import Tuner and other great things.

i jus dun get why peopel have to go and try and prove that their car is teh greatest.. against a korean car company...

Somethings are true. But you cant compare a hyundai with a sporty Honda, nissan or toyota those companies are at another level. Perhaphs comparing a hyundai with a daewoo or a suzuki would suit better...

people think that all toyotas and all nissans and all cars in a car company are better than a tiburon...
a sporty honda.. is that an oxy moron or were you making a joke?.... yeah theres better cars than a tiburon and theresbetter cars than a celica and a 350z but seriously peopel are trying to prove something that is already been known and alota peopel are just posting stupid shit and re-iterating pointless garbage...

people think that all toyotas and all nissans and all cars in a car company are better than a tiburon...
a sporty honda.. is that an oxy moron or were you making a joke?.... yeah theres better cars than a tiburon and theresbetter cars than a celica and a 350z but seriously peopel are trying to prove something that is already been known and alota peopel are just posting stupid shit and re-iterating pointless garbage...

(Good Point Dude, I agree, pointless stupid shit)

All the talk about Honda, Nissan, this and that, import this and import that with the Tibby being knocked.... Well have you know Honda, Toyota, Nissan are not true imports.. Granted they have a import name and are a descent from that country but they arent true imports.. Your Hondas and such are made right here in the good ol usa.. The Tiburon is a true import.. Built to U.S. specs and imported directly from South Korea. I in fact had to take my tiburon back in for repairs due to salt getting between my window and body on the back hatch and causing a small rust spot. That is true import!! Right on the freakin boat with ocean water being splashed up on it..

... exactly!
why do you think its so hard for hyundai owners to get good aftermarket parts....... cause theyre made in korea too cause teh marketers are based there.... i jus hope this thread gets another loser bashin teh tib... cause itll prove he has nothing worth saying and no life....plus wont know what hes talking about... :eek7: :screwy: :sly: :disappoin

hes probably blue printed the engine, and, well, there are always those guys with the seemingly endless supply of $$ that do things like that to cars...

This has got to be funniest post I've ever read in regards of La Pulga. If you even thought of being a low-budget racer, multiply that times 10, and you will get a slight idea of what their race shop looks like. I've been there myself. Good people though; humble & straight to the ponit... FAST!!! Mad props to Misito and his crew

There is no comaring a honda to a Hyundia. Honda the car and company are complete trash. I bought a 99 Prelude with 20K miles on it a year and a half ago at 30k the exhaust came apart (under warranty but crappy service from dealer) at 40k my sunroof motor went out and my car started burning oil. cost $1200 to fix then at 43k my trannie went out called honda to see what the f is up and they tell me there is a flaw in the casing of the transmissions on all 97- 01 preludes and accords. they said they extended the warranty on 2000 and up but told me I was screwed
I coouldn't drive my car for a month while the dealer looked for a trannie in a junkyard. one from honda cost $7000.after I got the car back the dealer actually told me to sell the car because the new trannie only had a one year warranty and it would most likely break and I would have another $4500 repair bill.
so I sold it and bought an '03 tiburon great car faster and more fun to drive at 18k mi with no problems whatsoever Great service from the dealer (they sell and install aftermarket parts so you can keep your warranty) just got AEM CAI and a sharkracing cat back from them
I love my Hyundia and am proud of it. If you don't like I could care less

You all have made good points, but everybody's situation is going to differ. I am a parts manager at a Hyundai dealer in Indianapolis, IN and I have seen problems with the Tiburon's along with many others. I have owned a number of cars, mostly GM, but have had a few imports also. Hyundai is getting much better as far as quality goes. When I first started we were putting a new transmission in a Hyundai about every other week. I haven't had to order a transmission in about 3 months now. My wife drives about 40 miles each way from work, so she puts a ton of miles on her car. Thats the main reason I bought her a 03 Sonata LX, even though I do get a GM discount. Transmissions seem to be the most major problem seen with all Hyundais, though they have gotten a lot better. One of my techs thats been with Hyundai for 8 years said they used to have to push them off the transporter because they would come in with bad transmissions. We see more problems with manual transmissions than with autos on the Tiburon, mainly because kids own them and think they are race cars and burn the clutch up. Had one kid go through 2 clutches in 12k miles. The clutches have a 12 mon 12k mile warranty, and even though he was barely inside the 12k miles, Hyundai would not warranty it after we sent them pics of what the clutch looked like when we took it apart. Hyundais do hold up for normal use and are good cars. I also have a 02 Eclipse GT. I can say the Eclipse is more fun to drive than any Tiburon I've driven. More room, more comfortable, better gas mileage (my last trip from Indianapolis to Connecticut in my Eclipse got 33mpg and yes it is a v6), more power. But it has had its share of problems, (cd changer, warped rotors, sunroof track, leather flaking, broken interior trim). Some of you say that Hondas don't hold up with boost. I have a friend that has a 93 Civic hatch with a B18C1 in it (integra gsr), runnin 23psi boost, runs low 11 sec 1/4 mile with slicks, daily driven 45 mins each way to and from work. Has been doing this about a year now with no problems. However, there are Hondas out there that are pos also. I also had a '90 CRX Si, driven just to and from work. I put more money into that car than I did the 7 other GM cars and trucks I had combined.

No matter what, there are going to be good cars and bad ones, not every honda is perfect, nor is every Hyundai, but there are going to be those that have problems repeatedly for different things. You all should quit argueing about it and more on.

Oh, and by the way. Hyundai has told us that sometime in the near future they are going to be offering performance parts. Kinda like Toyotas TRD. Lowering springs, exhaust, strut bars, etc. . . Even a turbo kit. Not sure yet what parts are going to be offered for what cars but I imagine the Tib will have the most parts offered

H.A.R.D
thats teh company makin all teh aftermarket... warranty backed products... so yeah
the haters have shut up :smokin:

People are always going to be bashing cars, especially hyundai because unfortunately in the beginning when they entered the US car market some of the cars would just die in very little time.
However, before anyone starts flaming, ever car company that begins always has quality issues. As I was told by my friend's dad he told us that when honda started no one wanted their cars.
Ever car company has to go through trial and error before they make great cars. Everyone here knows about the ford pinto right??
Anyways, a friend of mine has a 03 hyundai tiburon v6 but with 5 speed and he is enamored of the car, i like the car too it's very cool to look at. So far he hasn't complained about the car, not one thing yet...
But that's just my opinion.

Everyone here knows about the ford pinto right??


but ford still sucks.

nah jk dude, you said that perfectly, all car companies start off rough.

The bottom line is that for now Toyota, Nissan, and Honda are better cars. Reason being that they have been in the aftermarket world before Hyundai corp was a little Korean mans dream. Eventually they will get better and better and parts will become more available. Actually, I love my fiance's Tiburon, but, I raced "well" got humiliated by a SRT-4 last night. It totaly walked away from me. pretty sad, but the Tib looks nice. So if you want to go fast now....dont buy a Hyundai. dont buy a neon either, because......its a neon. I can really back up MR2's, get one of those. Their pimp as F***k and can get into the 13's w/ only intake, exhaust, and boost controller.

The bottom line is that for now Toyota, Nissan, and Honda are better cars. Reason being that they have been in the aftermarket world before Hyundai corp was a little Korean mans dream. Eventually they will get better and better and parts will become more available. Actually, I love my fiance's Tiburon, but, I raced "well" got humiliated by a SRT-4 last night. It totaly walked away from me. pretty sad, but the Tib looks nice. So if you want to go fast now....dont buy a Hyundai. dont buy a neon either, because......its a neon. I can really back up MR2's, get one of those. Their pimp as F***k and can get into the 13's w/ only intake, exhaust, and boost controller.

You were on some serious crack when you tried to race an SRT-4, what were you thinking??

It's just a neon eh?? Did you know that "Neon" will rip a hole in that MR2??? No matter how pimp it is.. It is not sad at all that an SRT-4 walked away from you.. A 225HP Turbo'd SRT-4 is nothing to play with. 0-60 in 5.5 seconds and 13.20 in a quarter at 103 MPH is damn near WRX STI material. You need to check out that 289 WHP Tiburon then if you would like to see fast. Or the 12 second Elantra.. Any car can be fast with the right tuning...

You can't say that any car is better than another cause one Toyota may last as long as a Hyundai while the next Hyundai will outlast the Toyota. A car's lasting is all on the driver/owner and how it is treated, not the name of it.

My girlfriends stepdad has a Ford F-150 with 199,000 miles on it and it don't smoke a drop. He's an older man and treats it right. You may drive it 40 miles and blow it up where he can get another 50,000 out of it..

im not sure that the neon would "rip a hole" in an mr2... if its jspec then it comes with 245hp.... plus isnt a neon fwd?? slow off the line... while mr2 is rwd... i believe that toyota advertized the mr2 turbo usd spec 0 - 60 in 5.8? now imagine that with 45 more horses since im not aware of the jdm mr2's times... then again you are compairing it to a ten year old car also... just to make things a little more in perspective

wut do u mean 289whp is fast... yes it is fast, but its not fast if you want to show teh cars potential... there are mr2s out there with 700+hp... i dont know if a neon could do that without blowing up or a tib... and i have to bring up again that the engine is still over 10 years old (made in 1990 maybe even sooner i forget)

Hyundai sucks?!? for the price u can put an alpine development kit in it and still compare to other cars in its class at the price. And the 100 k mile warranty....how the hell do u use something like that against hyundai...that means that the car is covered and the company trusts itself knowing that the car is going to be good throughout the warranty; a company doesnt put that kind of warranty on a car expecting it to break down so they have to put more money in it to repair it. Face it honda lovers; hyundai is coming along and it'll soon be one of the best cars on the market. i dont even understand half the talk about twin turbos cause the majority of people in here are never even gonna use that much power let alone do they probably have enough money or knowledge to do somehting like that to their car. Let it GO hyundai is a good car and will keep gettin better

how much hp can a srt-4 take before you have to change the internals

^^^no one really knows yet because the car is just beginning to be tuned.

and just so that none of you uneducated haters start saying the alpine turbo or super kit will void the warranty, they pick up whatever is left on the warranty that is nulled by hyundai after the kit is installed.

ok, everyone knows that hyundai sucked when it first started making cars and it seems no one can get over that. I heard nothing but good things about the 3rd gen tibby before i bought it and in addition to the appearance thats pretty much why I bought it. Many ppl dont like the car just because it is a hyundai obviously but those people dont really know everything there is to know and they havent driven it daily. I for one never get tired of driving mine especially with the mods i now have done. It is only a matter of time before more and more aftermarket parts become readily available for the tibby. Hyundai IS getting better and I dont think anyone can deny that. The tiburon is also gaining in rep and popularity as more and more ppl are modding them out. Whats funny about it is that no one has respect for the tibby and when they get there ass handed to them on a platter after racing they start making dumbass excuses because they got beat by a tiburon. Also on the subject of popularity i think someone was talking about tibbys being in the 2fast 2furious movie. I can say that is true - at the first of the movie when it shows ludacris for the first time and hes on the phone take a close look at the orange and white car in the lift in the background; its a tibby. :iceslolan

Heh, I know what you're talking about there when you pass them and they see the stylized "H", I always know that they're like DAMN I got smoked by a Tib, I have to laugh.

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when they first get to that one restauraunt, there is a blue rd1 tibby in the parking lot. that is batlord's car

Jeez, Nisco. You MUST have some personal issues when all your posts just bag on other peoples interests....j/k...or am I?....makes ya think eh?

Jeez, Nisco. You MUST have some personal issues when all your posts just bag on other peoples interests....j/k...or am I?....makes ya think eh?

man what the fuck are you talking about?

WOW This is quite the long thread. I test drove a V6 Tib not to long ago.

The lady that came along for the test drive sat in the back and told me "pertend im not here" so i did. She l;et me beat the car real good. She was into racing so she had fun as did I. I liked the car. Im relitivly young so i liked the fact that the seats were not plush. And the sparsness of the interior. But i did not like the stock stero. Nice car, but i decided to not get one. I was going to get it for my GF but i got here a MR2 Turbo insted.

damn, she must have been happy lol

All those nasty Tibi reviews must have been done by some dedicated Honda (or something else) owners. Truth is, Hyundai is now tied with Honda at 2ND PLACE out of all auto companies for reliblitly factor, according to a review done by USA Today. True, it's 2nd to Toyota, but I just bought a 2004 Tiburon GT after many months of comparison to Celica, RSX, and such. The Neon, bad as it may be, is still a Neon. The MR2 starts at over $25000 dollars, for a 4 banger, without a damn thing on it! ( I paid $18,983 for my Tibi GT, loaded) So, considering all thats been said throughout this thread, the Tiburon is one of the sexiest, and best imported sports cars that you can get today, and I still have money left over for mods.

Over in Korea, the Tiburon (aka Tuscani) is one of the most popular car's to hit the streets, ever. All those Tibi knockers should check out some of the work they do on those.

So, yes, it all boils down to a matter of opinion. But the truth is, it's all about weighing of the pro's and con's of what the buyer is looking for, right...!?!

hyundai tiburon... best car for under 20 grand
seriously

I agree

This is the longest thread I have ever seen. Every one has there own taste, hence the thousands of cars that are out there. I dont see the point of keeping on the bashing of people and cars for 13 pages for one jack-off's opinion.

well I think right now it turned into a "good" Tib thread, since we're talking about how much we like the car

this thread shoulda died a long time ago

The 2003 Tiburon certainly looks nice and sporty, of course, could you expect anything else that has been copied from the amazing Ferrari 456?

Apart from that the Tiburon isn´t good: some important magazine says about the Tiburon:

´This is a machine of unrefined flavors,
The cockpit smells of unpleasant chemicals,
The doors slam with a junky note,
The ears and the seat of the pants report a heavy-footed ride.
The interior at cruising speeds feels with a dull roar rather than mechanical music.
Lots of impact noise up from the pavement.
The steering is lifeless and lacking in the feel of precision that makes a great sporting car.
The gearbox requires heavy effort.
The lever motion is trusty. We always grabbed the right gear BUT the action is not fun.
The engine lacks thrills.
It peaks fairly low, far below the 6500 rpm redline, and offers no . encouragement above 5000.
None of us liked the interior.
The seats are supportive but lacking all traces of plushness.
We noticed small riples in the door stampings and elsewhere on the exterior, a sign of unsophisticated dies in the manufacturing plant.
The Tiburon is priced where it belongs (cheap)
It doesn´t comes with all-season tires like its competitors (It can´t go on the snow).
The rear seat comfort and space with 2 passengers are worst than average. Same goes for the ease of entry/exit (3 out of 10) ´´
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In conclusion this is a car that just can´t be compared to real sports coupes like the Celica, Acura RSX, Mitsubishi Eclipse, VW GTI, etc..........
:screwy: :screwy: :screwy: this car is a bargain for what its worth. i own a tiburon and my shit kills the street. I had two things put into it . ground kit wicthreally works more on the stero and a custom air intake . its a beast with just that . the road noise complaint is bull shit unless you ride in pot holes all day lol cause i dont have thAT problem . its a white i4 tib 2003 . what counts is performance, do you have one? if not get one at least test drive one before you rip ur mouth with lies . heres some sugar to your ears that i can let you sample . I can be at at a red light peeling my ass off with no move ment and get the grip i need to go after the show off lol you got lied to bad this car is no joke son

:screwy: :screwy: :flipa: you dont know the true facts test drive it the way i have it built, i have two things put in it. 1 is ground kit which benfits the stero better 2 i have a short air intake. the road noise is bull un less your in potholes all day long lol one treat i can give you , i can be stopped at a red light spinning whithout moving then gain traction when i want see how i said when i want lolol

let this thread die
noones bashin our car anymore
it aint worth it

I agree with Nisco, most people know now that a Tib is a force to be reckoned with, so just give it a rest and post more productive things

I just Bought a 2004 GT V6 6 speed tranny Tiburon, after driving the RSX, Celica, Solara, and Eclipse. After driving all these cars I choose the Tiburon. First off yes it is less expensive than some of the above listed cars, Plus 1 It looks cool as hell, Plus 2 It has a sweet warranty, Plus 3 Hunydai is comming out with factory aviable hop ups that will be covered under warranty!!! Plus 4 The only other company that can offer this is Toyota TRD. Take that honda! Oh and the A-spec package for the RSX, big deal. Its a glorified suspension kit for 5k no thanks. I will take my tibby thank you.

:werd: :iagree: :ylsuper: This thread will NEVER DIE!!!! :headshake


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Just wanted to be a part of the longest running thread in the history of mankind....Now I can say that I have been.

Well, not THE longest, but damn close.

I've got to put....

...THE 200TH AND LAST POST IN THIS THREAD!!!! YeAAhhhHHH!!!

Now, this thread may be retired. :iceslolan

ohh geezus

Tiburons are awsome and as for the problems with them, every car has them, that is what car checkups and customizing is for.

... its called tuning

Tiburons are Awesome!! You get a lemon in every group so expect it.

I love my Tiburon!!

Tiburon may be great for some of you guys but my Tiburon gave me a bad taste of Hyundai's. It does have great engine power or what not but I caught a lemon. Ive always been a Nissan fan and when I got this Hyundai I gave it a chance..but it keeps breaking down on me. Hyundai service department sucks as well, they never listen to their customers. 04' tiburon is great but I dont know if I'd buy it.

why the hell did u reply in a post thats over a year old?

why the hell did u reply in a post thats over a year old?

Cause I felt like it...shouldnt be a big deal.. :rolleyes:

.. wow first 1 anti tib thread gets resurected.. now another....

CLOSED!

wait.. not a mod...

stop resurrecting old threads!

Cause I felt like it...shouldnt be a big deal.. :rolleyes:

hmmm,

guess what NissanGirl04


http://santafemods.com/images/Other/ModBans/banuser02.jpg

Why?

Cause I felt like it, shouldn't be a big deal for you, right.

TS out

ohh man i gotta get those mod powers muhahahah!

HELLOWWWWWWW I´ve been away now I realize how many views and replys this Thread that I started has!!! Wawww :naughty: well Cheers to you all and good luck, byeee!!!!!!! WUWUWUWUW
:iceslolan :grinno:

Nice signature pic. Who makes it. I like the design.

Side note, never mind I didn't notice the link. Its a ssangyong. Nice.

TS out

Euro Trash, do you even own a Tib? I have an '03 with close to 20k mi on it. Not even a hint of a problem! A couple of minor recalls but nothing critical. For under $20k you can't do better! You can put down Huyndai all you want, but those of us who own one, know better!:nono:

At the beginning of this thread some idiot said the Civic is better than the Tib.....LOL.....Thats one of the stupidest things i have ever heard......My 04 tib is a lot faster than my friends 04 Civic, its nicer inside and out too.....So i never want to hear anyone say a civic is better than a Tib.

civics > nothing

Civics are so common, like a dime a dozen. Tibs on the other hand are unique & stand out in a crowd.

Alright folks, lets respect other makes and models. Lets not turn this into a flaming thread by saying my car is better than your car. Each vehicle is different and unique in its own way, whether that be in looks, speed, feel etc.

On that thought I am closing this thread.

TS out.