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05 TB EXT LS V8 oil change


kimper
08-30-2005, 07:31 PM
I just want to know if there is a dummy light that comes on that tells me to change my oil or not, because I was reading in the manual and it says that the oil changes in these trucks don't go off milage anymore they go off of the oil temp, and engine temp. My 05 has 6800 miles and no light has come on and I was curious if I should just change it or wait??

thanks
tim

ScarabEpic22
08-30-2005, 08:04 PM
Has the oil ever been changed? If not, then I am cringing beyond belief. Go get it changed now, not tomorrow, (ok, maybe tomorrow as its kinda late) but get it changed. Never go by the oil life monitoring system, it will tell you to go around 10,000miles. Thats fine if you are running synthetic, but personally, I never run conventional oil past 5,000mi. On a brand new engine, which yours is, I never go past 500mi, yes 500. There is a lot of metal wearing down inside your engine during the first 500mi, so it should be changed at 500, and then every 5,000for dino or 10,000 for synthetic. The last bit is personal preference, but the rest is a fact, your engine needs new oil!!!

No, I'm not trying to scare you, just help you keep your truck protected for a long period of time.

Moral: Get it changed ASAP!!!

balboasdelight
08-31-2005, 09:39 AM
On a brand new engine, which yours is, I never go past 500mi, yes 500.

It is true (and seems intuitively obvious) that most engine wear occurs at the very beginning of its life, and gradually decreases. Parts are manufactured to within tolerances, and wear themselves down to a good fit only through actual use. Back in the old days, when achievable tolerances on parts were pretty wide, engines shipped with "break-in oil," which contained abrasives(!) to accelerate this wear-in process. It was ABSOLUTELY CRITICAL to change out that oil after the first 500 miles. They quit doing that, but 500 remained a rule of thumb for the first oil change interval for years, and still is for old farts like me (but then, I thermal cycle a brand new engine before I even drive it anywhere, so just call me paranoid).

It's not strictly necessary -- if it were, the owner's manual would say so. Modern engine manufacturing processes produce parts to within such tight tolerances that there is very little "wearing in" to be done -- the engine internals fit together almost perfectly upon assembly. Almost. There is likely some wear going on, which means some wear metals in suspension in the oil (some of which will be trapped by the oil filter; some won't).

Personally, I change the oil AND FILTER at 500 miles on a new engine, then 2K, 5K, and 8K -- and go from there to 3-6K intervals, depending on driving conditions. It may be overkill, but it can't hurt (at worst it's just a waste of money, and this is relatively cheap dino oil; I switch to synthetics at ~20K, and go to 6-8K change intervals). At best, the practice is physically removing wear metals that may cause wear, clog passages, and otherwise harm the engine. You can cut the filter open and/or install a magnetic drain plug and/or pay some lab to analyze the old oil to monitor the level of wear metal, but IMHO it's just easier to assume the worst and change the oil a few extra times.

Tim -- CHANGE YOUR OIL! ;)

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kimper
09-01-2005, 06:08 PM
No the oil hasn't been changed but, it will this weekend. Thanks alot guys I appreciate the help

tim

ScarabEpic22
09-01-2005, 11:21 PM
Whewwww, I'm glad you are getting it changed!! Good luck this weekend, are you doing it yourself?

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