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fatninja19
04-30-2002, 11:24 PM
my friend has a 2002 subaru wrx 5 speed. according to him, he accelerates quick up to around 80 mph and then the power isn't there anymore. he says this is caused by the AWD system. i refuse to believe this, but someone please tell me if this is true. also, what is the 1/4 mile time for a stock wrx?

chebbiesux
05-01-2002, 12:20 AM
i test drove a wrx, they go like a bat out of hell and than they probably resemble your minivan after 145 kph.
they say they are 14 second rides but i don't think it would have taken my dart and i ran a 15.8 with it

Tuarus SHO
05-01-2002, 12:32 AM
Over on cluwrx.org Many people complain about the lack of top end. And I raced one on the freeway, and can vouch for that.:o

NB8CT
05-01-2002, 01:14 AM
Get a intake, turbo back 3" exhaust, and a vishnu up-pipe (www.vishnuperformance.com) to replace the cat that leads into the turbo (yes there is a cat pre turbo on the WRX!!)

Do that and it will breath, it'll pul to redline no problem then; in all gears!

Your freind is just making reasons why his shit aint fast!!:lol2:

Polygon
05-01-2002, 12:34 PM
Personally it just seems to me that the WRX has short gearing, thus why it can go 0-60 in 5.4 seconds with only 227 horses at the flywheel to work with. I had suspected that it would have no top end.

Gonthrax
05-01-2002, 02:41 PM
Originally posted by NB8CT
Get a intake, turbo back 3" exhaust, and a vishnu up-pipe (www.vishnuperformance.com) to replace the cat that leads into the turbo (yes there is a cat pre turbo on the WRX!!)

Do that and it will breath, it'll pul to redline no problem then; in all gears!

Your freind is just making reasons why his shit aint fast!!:lol2:

Whaaaat:confused: What exactialy does the pre-turbo cat do? Unless I've been lied to for a very long time a cat cleans exhaust gasses and there arn't any exhaust gasses in the intake stage:bloated: :confused:


Any how, yes the WRX's are rather gutless off boost and at above 80-90mph. But they are rally bred and it shows. Thats alright though, as long as you realize this and realize that there are ways around it.

NB8CT
05-02-2002, 11:08 AM
Its there to cut down on startup emissions. The cat is just before the turbo inlet on the exhaust housing. The cat warms up quick 'cuz its so close to the exhaust ports of the engine; hence lower startup emissions. It also cuts a hella lot of air from getting to the turbo. Its a big bottle neck on the WRX. If you check out vishnu's site (link above) they have a "stage 0" that replaces the pre-turbo cat, and supplies a uni-chip. That alone gave a 41whp gain!!!:eek: Thats not even with a cat-back!

Super Spec V
05-07-2002, 09:28 AM
I have no idea where all you people who think the wrx is slow on the top end get your facts from. Maybe if you own the car and drive it you will be able to post an opignion, but untill then nobody who has.nt driven it should talk.

I own a T REX and and just put a customer 3" cat back exhaust with high flow muffler, and let me tell you it will blow away half of the junk on the market right now. my 5th gear keeps pullin and pulling and pulling and pulling right past your ass.

So for all you non belivers, whenever you wanna try to prove your opignions correct. call me up and well hop on the highway, and then we wil see whos slow.

Gonthrax
05-07-2002, 02:17 PM
Originally posted by Super Spec V
I have no idea where all you people who think the wrx is slow on the top end get your facts from. Maybe if you own the car and drive it you will be able to post an opignion, but untill then nobody who has.nt driven it should talk.

I own a T REX and and just put a customer 3" cat back exhaust with high flow muffler, and let me tell you it will blow away half of the junk on the market right now. my 5th gear keeps pullin and pulling and pulling and pulling right past your ass.

So for all you non belivers, whenever you wanna try to prove your opignions correct. call me up and well hop on the highway, and then we wil see whos slow.

I have driven the car, quite a bit actually. Yes it's quick, yes it's quicker then most normal cars in all parts of the spectrum, but compaired to other performance cars it's gutless once you get above 80-90mph. Even most people who own them say this!

Super Spec V
05-07-2002, 02:24 PM
SURE WHATEVER. BRING IT ON.
THE NEW SCOBBY T REX IS NOT SLUGGISH. I GUESS THE PEOPLE WHO OWN ONE OR THE ONE YOU'VE DRIVIN ARE LEMONS.

Gonthrax
05-07-2002, 02:58 PM
Originally posted by Super Spec V
SURE WHATEVER. BRING IT ON.
THE NEW SCOBBY T REX IS NOT SLUGGISH. I GUESS THE PEOPLE WHO OWN ONE OR THE ONE YOU'VE DRIVIN ARE LEMONS.

Ok, apparently you arn't understanding what I'm saying... Lemme break it down for ya.


What I'm (Me, the poster, GonthraX) saying is this. I like ( as apposed to dislike) the WRX. It is a quick (not slow, not blisteringly fast) car. Because of it's rally (races raced on a dirt, asphalt, or snow track were car's do not race neck and neck, they simply run the course and times are compaired) bred design it accells in 0-80mph performance. It goes like stink (Quickly) up untill 80-90, after that (once you have reached these speeds) the rate at which it accelerates begins to deminish. This is due in part to the small turbo (Dropoff of high RPM power) and it's gearing. I'm not saying the "NEW SCOBBY T REX" is sluggish, it is anything but sluggish (on boost anyway :D ). What I am saying (and have been saying for a while now) is that in comparison with other performance cars the Impreza WRX will not accelerate as quickly as once above 80-90 mph!!!

Super Spec V
05-07-2002, 03:18 PM
IM GLAD THERE IS A MUTUAL UNDERSTANDING.

I JUST WANTED TO KNOW WICH CARS ARE YOU COMPARING THE REX TOO. IN 80MPH AND ON ACCELERATION?

Gonthrax
05-07-2002, 09:56 PM
Originally posted by Super Spec V
IM GLAD THERE IS A MUTUAL UNDERSTANDING.

I JUST WANTED TO KNOW WICH CARS ARE YOU COMPARING THE REX TOO. IN 80MPH AND ON ACCELERATION?

I wasn't really compairing it to anything. Just that someone who went from zero, or low speeds, to top end would notice that it pulls significantly harder up to 80 or so and then weakens a bit from then on.

chebbiesux
05-08-2002, 02:47 AM
and let me tell you it will blow away half of the junk on the market right now. my 5th gear keeps pullin and pulling and pulling and pulling right past your ass.

that's funny, because i have a talon that's ten years older than your car and i am pretty sure you wouldn't be able to see the talon's ass end anymore by the time i got into 5th gear.

and another thing, i did drive a wrx. for a car that runs 0-60 in 5.4 seconds it sure doesn't run the 60-100 like it should. but now that i know about that precat turbo, that would seem like a pretty wicked way to kill power for insurance and such. it would spool up much faster, and it would help the power up at the high rpms

Gonthrax
05-08-2002, 03:09 AM
Originally posted by chebbiesux


that's funny, because i have a talon that's ten years older than your car and i am pretty sure you wouldn't be able to see the talon's ass end anymore by the time i got into 5th gear.

and another thing, i did drive a wrx. for a car that runs 0-60 in 5.4 seconds it sure doesn't run the 60-100 like it should. but now that i know about that precat turbo, that would seem like a pretty wicked way to kill power for insurance and such. it would spool up much faster, and it would help the power up at the high rpms

I'd like to see someone put a nice big hybrid turbo on one. Highflowed, 50 a/r or so. Get the head ported and polished, other little things to reduce lag. But major power in the high RPMs. Perhaps a new box, 6 speed would be nice :rolleyes:

*Edit*
To thread starter, the part about lack of high end being because of 4wd. There is a larger loss of HP and Torque because of the 4 wheel drivetrain, but it's lost across the board, speed doesn't matter. I'm not sure what the actual number lost is, but I'll dig around.

Super Spec V
05-08-2002, 09:15 AM
HOW CAN YOU COMPARE A PIECE OF WOOD TALON TO A WRX. TALONS ARE WANNA BE RALLY CARS WITH THE CRAPPIEST 4WD SYSTEM KNOWN TO MAN KIND, EVEN THE 2WD FF SUCK. SO WHAT THEY HAVE A 2L TURBO. THEY'RE NOTHING BUT SCOOBY SNACKS FOR A T REX.

WHEN EVER YOU THINK YOUR TALON IS FAST ENOUGH AND YOU HAVE THE GUTS TO RACE A WRX LET ME KNOW ILL MAKE AN EFFORT TO COME WHEREVER YOU ARE AND BLOW YOUR DOORS AWAY.

Polygon
05-08-2002, 02:06 PM
Originally posted by Super Spec V
HOW CAN YOU COMPARE A PIECE OF WOOD TALON TO A WRX. TALONS ARE WANNA BE RALLY CARS WITH THE CRAPPIEST 4WD SYSTEM KNOWN TO MAN KIND, EVEN THE 2WD FF SUCK. SO WHAT THEY HAVE A 2L TURBO. THEY'RE NOTHING BUT SCOOBY SNACKS FOR A T REX.

WHEN EVER YOU THINK YOUR TALON IS FAST ENOUGH AND YOU HAVE THE GUTS TO RACE A WRX LET ME KNOW ILL MAKE AN EFFORT TO COME WHEREVER YOU ARE AND BLOW YOUR DOORS AWAY.

Dude get you shit straight, you are starting to flame people because they don't agree with you. And for your information, I have raced a brand new Rex on the highway, and can you say bye bye. He didn't have a chance, and he has more power and a bigger engine than I do. Granted I can eat Talon TSi's and Elcipse GSX's for breakfast, but they have a better top end than a WRX, and they have a lot of potential to be very powerful.

CAptynCrunch
05-08-2002, 04:35 PM
Actually Polygon you have the bigger engine, but only by a fifth of a liter :)

Polygon
05-08-2002, 05:15 PM
How big is the WRX engine? I thought it was 2.4.

ZondaFreak02
05-08-2002, 05:36 PM
this forum is just a little confused i would say

netstealth
05-08-2002, 08:27 PM
After you look at a talon smoking a viper, a vette, 3 NOS'd out civics, 2 NOS'd Eclipse GS-X's, etc...you wont say the same as you did.

But I do have to admin that Subaru's have a very high potential, but i don't think we're talking about the same models. The best and fastest subaru you can fix up is the G8CK, which, IF and that's a BIG if, if done right can have mind blowing acceleration (i'm talking eating McLarens for breakfast), and the best handling you'll ever see. However it will cost you 3-4 times wut it cost you to fix up a talon.

P.S. The good thing about most cheap cars is that they're cheap to fix up.

auswrx
05-08-2002, 08:39 PM
Don't start comparing modded up versions of the talon, wrx etc. or it will never end. In the US you might have talon's that do blistering quarter miles, but every other country it's the opposite. Here in aus the fastest AWD street legal car is not a Nissan GT-R, not a Mitsubishi EVO but a wrx at 10.01 along with numerous others in the mid 10 secound bracket. There's no end to this arguement if you bring in outside factors, but i'll be reading it anyway:) .

LjasonL
05-08-2002, 09:15 PM
Originally posted by netstealth
After you look at a talon smoking a...NOS'd Eclipse GS-X

u do realize a talon tsi and an eclipse gsx are the same thing right?

Originally posted by netstealth
The best and fastest subaru you can fix up is the G8CK

what are u referring to as a "gc8k" "gc8" is the chassis code on the previous body style wrx coupes, but where are u getting the "k" from? the only thing i can think of is the "gc8k" on tokyo extreme racer for dreamcast, but in reality that car is called the "22b sti". u havent been playing too much dreamcast have u?



and back on topic, i have driven a new wrx and the thing is slow on top end. even my impreza has that problem. but its not from the awd system, its from the gearing. the car pulls hard in 1st, 2nd, and 3rd gears, but after that, it kinda gives up. 3rd gear redlines at 78 mph, which explains why the car feels slow above 80, cuz thats when u hit 4th gear. most modern 4 cylinders can hit 100mph or so in 3rd, but the subaru is geared really short for acceleration to 80 because in most rally races u spend most of your time below that. to compensate for the short 1st-3rd, it needs a taller than normal 4th and 5th. i think the sti type ra 6 speed transmission would fix this problem, if u wanna shell out the $4000-$5000 to get one.

Gonthrax
05-09-2002, 03:11 AM
Originally posted by Super Spec V
HOW CAN YOU COMPARE A PIECE OF WOOD TALON TO A WRX. TALONS ARE WANNA BE RALLY CARS WITH THE CRAPPIEST 4WD SYSTEM KNOWN TO MAN KIND, EVEN THE 2WD FF SUCK. SO WHAT THEY HAVE A 2L TURBO. THEY'RE NOTHING BUT SCOOBY SNACKS FOR A T REX.

WHEN EVER YOU THINK YOUR TALON IS FAST ENOUGH AND YOU HAVE THE GUTS TO RACE A WRX LET ME KNOW ILL MAKE AN EFFORT TO COME WHEREVER YOU ARE AND BLOW YOUR DOORS AWAY.


Ok... First off, Talons... Rally Cars... Um no.

Secondly, Crappy 4WD, incorrect... Talon TSi's are AWD... Big difference.

Third "So what if they have a 2l Turbo" incase you don't know anything about your car you have a 2l Turbo aswell....

4th, I usualy don't say this because I try to be nice to every one, but
you have no idea what you are talking about!!!!

fatninja19
05-09-2002, 08:55 PM
the person who told me that the wrx doesn't have much of a top end owns a wrx.

His wrx only has an AEM CAI, which he claims that it doesn't help much. Otherwise, it's stock. Should a 00 Integra Type R (with a mugen cat back, AEM CAI, and some sort of high quality header from Japan) beat the WRX in a 1/4 mile race if the two drivers were equal?

As of this moment, the WRX has yet to overcome the ITR in a good drag race.

Super Spec V
05-10-2002, 09:15 AM
It's pretty ironic that you ask such a question.

Last night the weather was ideal for street racing in my area, so we gathered together and set up some runs.

I was racing a friend of mine who Has a 99 or 00 Intergra Type R. He has AEM cold air intake, AEM fuel rail, AEM fuel pressure regulator, AEM cam gears, and a cat back high flow exhaust.

No ill tell you what happend... we lined up at the lights and he sat there warming up his tires for a min or 2. when he was ready to go the person flagging the race raised his hands and told us to get ready. I had my car pegged at 6000rpm waiting for him to drop his hands. When he did BANG i let go of the cluthlaunched and then clutched back in to get that missle lauch effect. He was so far behind after the launch that he didnt even bother trying to catch me.

Gonthrax
05-10-2002, 03:11 PM
Originally posted by Super Spec V
It's pretty ironic that you ask such a question.

Last night the weather was ideal for street racing in my area, so we gathered together and set up some runs.

I was racing a friend of mine who Has a 99 or 00 Intergra Type R. He has AEM cold air intake, AEM fuel rail, AEM fuel pressure regulator, AEM cam gears, and a cat back high flow exhaust.

No ill tell you what happend... we lined up at the lights and he sat there warming up his tires for a min or 2. when he was ready to go the person flagging the race raised his hands and told us to get ready. I had my car pegged at 6000rpm waiting for him to drop his hands. When he did BANG i let go of the cluthlaunched and then clutched back in to get that missle lauch effect. He was so far behind after the launch that he didnt even bother trying to catch me.

It's pretty ironic that you continue to babble on and spit out this inaccurate "facts" when I was stareing at the cluster of a WRX for a few hours last night.

You had it pegged at 6000RPM huh? Thats strange, you must have gotten a lemon. http://a332.g.akamai.net/f/332/936/12h/www.edmunds.com/media/roadtests/roadtest/01.subaru.wrx/01.subaru.wrx.int.350.jpg

Looks like 7000rpm is redline to me:rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Super Spec V
05-10-2002, 03:20 PM
YOU AGIAN.


GO FUC*K YOURSELF

What i meant to say is that i had it pegged as in locked at 6000rpm ready to launch, eventhough the rev limiter is @7000rpm.


Dont you have better stuff to do than break my balls. I wish you had the balls to be a shit disturber in front of my face, cause i would know your head off with a couple of hooks.

Polygon
05-10-2002, 03:58 PM
Oh and I would like to point out that we are talking about top end, not low end here. The fact that the WRX is fast off the line is not at debate here. We all know it is damn fast off the line.

And man lighten up, you are too damn defensive.

fatninja19
05-10-2002, 06:53 PM
Geez Spec V, calm down. So he misunderstood you, oh well.. no worries. Doesn't dumping the clutch at 6k rpm put a shit load of stress on the trans and driveshafts and stuff? Is there any wheel slip when you do this? Is your WRX stock? Because the U.S. spec doesn't really have as much balls as the WRX you are describing.

So um, if the same cars described in my pervious post raced from 40mph to 100 mph, who do you guys think would win(assuming both drivers have equal skill)?

Super Spec V
05-10-2002, 10:01 PM
The only reason i was defensive is because Gonthrax has been breaking my balls latley. But anyways My WRX has a Cat back 3" exhaust with 3" high flow muffler and cold air intake (AEM). Dont know if that clears things up that much.

When a car is in momentum like my rex after a launch, and already 3-4 cars ahead of the ITR, it will be hard for it to catch up, because im still making power while ahead so many cars, so the ITR will need lots more HP to catch up and pass me. IT almost like racing at the track when the slower car goes first, and the one with lots more power goes next. The car with more power needs BIg hp to pass and beat the other one.


PEACE

Gonthrax
05-11-2002, 12:06 PM
Originally posted by Super Spec V
The only reason i was defensive is because Gonthrax has been breaking my balls latley. But anyways My WRX has a Cat back 3" exhaust with 3" high flow muffler and cold air intake (AEM). Dont know if that clears things up that much.

When a car is in momentum like my rex after a launch, and already 3-4 cars ahead of the ITR, it will be hard for it to catch up, because im still making power while ahead so many cars, so the ITR will need lots more HP to catch up and pass me. IT almost like racing at the track when the slower car goes first, and the one with lots more power goes next. The car with more power needs BIg hp to pass and beat the other one.


PEACE

It just seemed to me that you were making some pretty big claims and not providing any supporting info to back them up. I still think some of it is questionable, but thats just my take on it:rolleyes:

Super Spec V
05-11-2002, 12:23 PM
I never intended to come to AF and talk shit about anyone or anything!

I just wanna share info, stories and tips with other AF members.

But anyways im going street racin tonight, and i plan on blasting away some rice. Just got my Super afc boost controller and regulator, so after its done being tuned ill be ready for all the rice my scooby can eat!

Ill keep you posted on my kills.


PEACE

Gonthrax
05-11-2002, 01:00 PM
Originally posted by Super Spec V
I never intended to come to AF and talk shit about anyone or anything!

I just wanna share info, stories and tips with other AF members.

But anyways im going street racin tonight, and i plan on blasting away some rice. Just got my Super afc boost controller and regulator, so after its done being tuned ill be ready for all the rice my scooby can eat!

Ill keep you posted on my kills.


PEACE

There's always drama in the street racing forum, kinda hard to tell the ppl who are full of shit from the ppl who... Well arn't :D


Lemme know how the S AFC works, a friend of mine is planning on puttin in an order whenever he finds one for cheap(also for a WRX). Any problems with the install?

Super Spec V
05-11-2002, 01:11 PM
DUDES IM FREAKIN OUT.

Gonthrax. The istall is easy, just take your time and youll be fine. The hardest part for me was finding a spot to fit the line through the firwall.

BUT MAN O MAN. This shit flys now.

I turned the boost up to 16lbs and bumped up the fuel pressure 2lbs, and fuck me what a difference.

The car feels like it's on crack, and i tell you, in this situation crack does'nt kill. IT makes you go FAAAAAST


Im sure that my 3" cat back makes everything alot smoother and more responsive.

Cant wait to go fry some rice tonight. I already have a race lined up with a 92 civic hatch with b16a and 50 shot of NOS (my buddies brother).

IM gonna give him the biggest shalacking of his life. HEHE HAHA, he dont know that i put the SUPER AFC (ah well hell have to find out the hard way).

Polygon
05-11-2002, 03:29 PM
Really? Now your Rex runs 14 PSI stock right? That is about what I run. Hmm.... all I need to do is take care of that damn bleeder valve and get a reulator and a boost controller. If 2 PSI makes that much difference just imagine taking it up to 30 PSI. :flash:

Super Spec V
05-11-2002, 03:52 PM
WOW.

I Think that 30psi would be to insane. I'd probally endup writting myself off. Mybe after i put the TurboXS 3" downpipe and Boost retard Ignition i will turn up the boost to 20psi (only for a short while) and then go after some of the bigger boys in town!!!!!


Anyways im getting the car ready for tonight. Man i wish you guys lived near by. It's gonna be a sick night at the races.

Ill be sure to let you who becomes the first scooby snack for my Scooby REX.

L8TES

Gonthrax
05-11-2002, 11:19 PM
Originally posted by Super Spec V
WOW.

I Think that 30psi would be to insane. I'd probally endup writting myself off. Mybe after i put the TurboXS 3" downpipe and Boost retard Ignition i will turn up the boost to 20psi (only for a short while) and then go after some of the bigger boys in town!!!!!


Anyways im getting the car ready for tonight. Man i wish you guys lived near by. It's gonna be a sick night at the races.

Ill be sure to let you who becomes the first scooby snack for my Scooby REX.

L8TES

Think of 38psi Antiliag :eek: Thats about what WRC cars run, but of course they just bolt a new turbo on after the race:rolleyes:


Oh, and I wouldn't turn your boost up to 20psi even for a short while, I beleave the generaly accepted max for the stock turbo is 18. Also the IC will be working pretty damn hard at that point too. I'd hate to see you detonate :( :(

Polygon
05-12-2002, 12:30 AM
Originally posted by Gonthrax


Think of 38psi Antiliag :eek: Thats about what WRC cars run, but of course they just bolt a new turbo on after the race:rolleyes:


Oh, and I wouldn't turn your boost up to 20psi even for a short while, I beleave the generaly accepted max for the stock turbo is 18. Also the IC will be working pretty damn hard at that point too. I'd hate to see you detonate :( :(

Not on mine. Sure it would take a good bit of tuning but my stock turbo, engine, and internals can take a max of 30 PSI as it is now. I would need to replace my intercooler. Not saying I would do it because, the engine and the turbo wouldn't loast to long driving like that all the time.

fatninja19
05-12-2002, 02:47 AM
Spec V: hows your AEM working? My friend with a WRX that has an AEM as his only power mod says he barely feels a difference.

my question was how the race would end if the ITR and the WRX were even at 40 mph.

The ITR's HP is pretty close to the WRX at the flywheel(keep in mind the mods each car has), but the ITR may put more power to the ground than the WRX does.

Gonthrax
05-12-2002, 04:31 AM
Originally posted by fatninja19
Spec V: hows your AEM working? My friend with a WRX that has an AEM as his only power mod says he barely feels a difference.

my question was how the race would end if the ITR and the WRX were even at 40 mph.

The ITR's HP is pretty close to the WRX at the flywheel(keep in mind the mods each car has), but the ITR may put more power to the ground than the WRX does.

I would bet my left arm that if you put someone who was a damn good launcher in the ITR he could take the WRX. Stock vs Stock that is... The 4wd drivetrain eats alot of power, most people who have dynoed their stock WRXs (USDM) get 170-180 at the wheels so with a 2wd drivetrain I'm sure the ITR is putting more to the ground. It could go either way, 4wd sure does afford you a harder launch. But then agian the guys in out there running funny cars, pro stocks and such are launching 900-3000hp RWD cars:bloated:

Polygon: Damn! Thats amazing, could your fuel system keep up at 30 psi? If so what cc injecters come on that damn thing?

CAptynCrunch
05-12-2002, 10:01 AM
Only adding 2 psi???

I thought the WRX only ran 8psi Stock. I can remember one time on that old import showcase thing on speed they interviewed some racing team that had done up a brand new WRX and had bumped the stock 8psi up to 13psi and were making 350HP. Now they did have some other mods done but if your running 16psi it should be at least about the same.

Super Spec V
05-12-2002, 01:09 PM
I think the only way to find out would be to race!

I can tell you this. And i swear to god im not lying (if i am ill die tommorow).

When i bought my first scooby (99 impreza 2.5rs) i had a cat back exhaust, and custom made cold air intake. Every friday night i would come out to the races and race!. My freinds brother has a 99 ITR and we would always race the 1/4 mile. Now, everytime we would race he would beat me by 1/2 to 1 car length! This is because i know how to lauch the Impreza a certain way that nobody else could. I would rev the mother fucker till it couldnt scream no more and as soon as i dropped the clutch and felt some momentum i would hit the clutch agian while under full throttle, and see ya the fuck later. My car would hop like a frong on crack. My lauch alone would put me ahead 3 cars or so, and by the time we would reach the end of the 1/4 is when he would start to catch up and then pass me by a 1/2 to full car. No matter how many ITRs i would race not one of them could beat my by more than a car. And if they did'nt know how to drive they would loose.


So now i have a REX wich is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay more powerful than a 2.5rs, and ive tested my lauch and its fucken sick. There is no way an ITR could even touch me in the 1/4 unless it had some serious HP. TRUST ME IM NOT TALKING SHIT.

As far as the intake goes i noticed a difference, but i think that the only reason i noticed a difference is because i have the 3" cat back exhaust with 3" high flow muffler. Im sure that anyone with these two mods on thier REX noticed a big difference in throttle response and mid to high range power.

btw, last night it rained, so no racing went on. I was pissed. I guess ill have this whole week to do another mod wich will probally be my downpipe, and then i will be laughing for the wekend.


PEACE

Gonthrax
05-12-2002, 02:27 PM
Originally posted by CAptynCrunch
Only adding 2 psi???

I thought the WRX only ran 8psi Stock. I can remember one time on that old import showcase thing on speed they interviewed some racing team that had done up a brand new WRX and had bumped the stock 8psi up to 13psi and were making 350HP. Now they did have some other mods done but if your running 16psi it should be at least about the same.

The USDM WRXs run about 1bar (14.5psi) boost stock.

Polygon
05-12-2002, 02:32 PM
Originally posted by Gonthrax
Polygon: Damn! Thats amazing, could your fuel system keep up at 30 psi? If so what cc injecters come on that damn thing?

Hmm. . . . .

That makes me wonder. I don't know if the fuel system would be able to keep up. This guy I know that mods FWD Mopars has told me that I can do 30 PSI at the most stock. These guys at XTR racing, my local performance shop, said the same. You have brought up a very good point. I might need new injectors and a beefier fuel system for that. I'll have to ask those guys about that.

NB8CT
05-12-2002, 04:56 PM
Yea dont boost it above 18pis or you will fuck something up. You will need to change turbos for over that, and a IC is a must (front mount, to much heat soak on top).

If you want really good mods, go to http://www.vishnuperformance.com Trust me, they know their shit, SCC just reviewed their stage0 kit, it gave them +41hp at the wheels alone (thats with nothing else on the car!)

By the way, you keep launching like that, and you better order a new trans soon, especially if you keep upping the boost. The scooby trannies are only good for a bit under 300hp going through them, and thats without launching like you say you do.

I launch my dad's 2.5RS at 3k, and I get a huge jump on almost anything I run, I think your method is just overkill.........

Super Spec V
05-12-2002, 06:11 PM
I do admit that it might no be the best thing for the tranny, but that is a chance you have to take when you street race!

Anyways i would try to get away with a warrenty claim if that happend. Hopefully it would work.


BTW There is 2 reasons why i would launch like that 1. IT WORKS AWSOME 2. If I know that the car im gonna run is FAST.


Other than that iI really dont have to do it that much.

I hope my down pipe gives me some good top end, so that i can pull harder up top.

NB8CT
05-12-2002, 06:14 PM
GET THE VISHNU UP-PIPE!

Super Spec V
05-12-2002, 10:19 PM
Wich one should i get first. the up pipe or down pipe, or should i say fuck it and get both of them. Although i doubt il get them both at the same time. But now im confused on which to get first.


Up or Down.

Gonthrax
05-12-2002, 10:29 PM
Downpipe will help more then the up pipe I beleave, but in the end they both are a good idea :)


I'd be more worried about the clutch then the box launching like that, I'd wait on any more power mods and get a nice kevlar double plate that you can launch like that (every now and then anyway). If you plan on putting on any more power your going to need the clutch anyway, so why not go ahead and get it now?

Super Spec V
05-12-2002, 10:40 PM
Thats not a bad idea.

what im gonna do is finish up the exhaust side of thing s for the car, so that i have a full exhaust and air intake system, and then i will go and get me a good racing clutch. ANY suggestions on wich one to get?

are they hard to put in?


Let me know.

Super Spec V
05-12-2002, 10:44 PM
Oh ya i almost forgot.

Has anyone heard on HKS making a complete crossover manifold for the REX? I heard that they make one and it makes some big power. Then that would truly finish off the exhaust.


So how much power should the car have after all my mods?

I have(will have):

Downpipe, Cold air intake 3" cat back exhaust, super afc fuel computer, and 16lbs of boost.


I was thining around 280hp do you think that is too high, or is it right?

LjasonL
05-12-2002, 11:00 PM
Originally posted by Super Spec V
I would rev the mother fucker till it couldnt scream no more and as soon as i dropped the clutch and felt some momentum i would hit the clutch agian while under full throttle, and see ya the fuck later.

wow dude that is exactly the same way i launch. its rare to see ANY car within 2-3 lenghts of me after launch. i thought i was the only person who did it that way!

anyway yeah, i raced an itr here at the local track, its a short track only 1000ft, but i BARELY beat him. granted the driver probably sucked, and he would have beat me through a full 1/4, but not by more than 1 length. if i was in a wrx, i would kill an itr. and since u do the same launch i do, im sure u would too.

Super Spec V
05-13-2002, 09:49 AM
HAHA YES YOUIR THE SHIT BUDDY.

I thought that i was the only person to launch a scooby like that. Its good to know that some here can relate to how sick the launch really is.

Keep up the launches man. I love to hear other scooby members laying down what i call the SEE YA LATER LAUCH ( thats what my friends called it when they seen my lauch my rex agianst a 5l stang) and let me tell ya, it really was see ya later.

Dont get me wrong i like the ITR more thjan any other rice rocket out there, but it's still a scooby snack for the Scoobaruuuuuuuus!


Scuba Scuba ROOOOOO!!!


Awsome peace ya'll

Super Spec V
05-13-2002, 09:51 AM
Sorry for the spelling mistake.

And finally i get AF member status, as opposed to NEWBIE.


TTFN

Ta ta for now

NB8CT
05-13-2002, 11:52 AM
I would say that the downpipe will give you more power, but that + the up-pipe will give you big ass gains.

Yea and as far as a new tubular manifold, checkout http://www.jic-magic.com

Super Spec V
05-13-2002, 12:07 PM
So you really think that it would be worth spending the money for the up and down pipes?

If so, then imma gonna do it.

Super Spec V
05-13-2002, 12:17 PM
i couldnt see anything on the link you gave me. Just a whole buch of suspension stuff and other stuff, but not tubular manifolds.

Super Spec V
05-13-2002, 12:49 PM
NOW THIS IS WHAT I WAS LOOKING FOR.


THIS SHIT WITH the up and down pipe will make some sick ass horsepower.


Damm pic made my pants wet.

NB8CT
05-13-2002, 09:58 PM
Sorry, try this: http://www.jic-magic.com/bullet/bulletindex.htm

They dont have a pic of it, put it looks like the SR20 manifolds but just a funky shape that the EJ20 uses.

And yea I think that the up-pipe is worth it! And yea: up-pipe + down pipe + tubular manifold = big power and a big grin on your face!

Gonthrax
05-13-2002, 11:34 PM
Originally posted by Super Spec V
HAHA YES YOUIR THE SHIT BUDDY.

I thought that i was the only person to launch a scooby like that. Its good to know that some here can relate to how sick the launch really is.

Keep up the launches man. I love to hear other scooby members laying down what i call the SEE YA LATER LAUCH ( thats what my friends called it when they seen my lauch my rex agianst a 5l stang) and let me tell ya, it really was see ya later.



Actually thats how you are suppost to launch, well, you arn't supposed to let the clutch all the way out in the first place. Just gotta find the line were you can slip the clutch to get as little wheelspin as possible while still accelerating as fast as possible.

Now when you get your new clutch here's somthing to try. The "correct" way to launch a turbo drag car. Ok, first off, your wastegate will only close and start spooling your turbo when your underload, so reving with the clutch in does not spool your turbo. So, (after you have a good clutch), this is what to try. Set handbrake (lvl depends on your hp, so play around), put it in 1st, rev to desired launching RPM, slip clutch to get your car under load and spool your turbo, drop handbreak and let clutch out, continue to slip clutch to reduce wheelspin.


As for clutches, Cusco is the name when it comes to clutches. I beleave a good twin plate should work fine for your application. Installing one... if it were me I'd let someone else do it, but it all depends on how skilled a mechanic you are and what tools you have ;)

Super Spec V
05-14-2002, 10:04 AM
Thanks for the info man!

As soon as my factory clutch is pooched, i will go and get a cusco one. this way i can spool up and lauch at 7000rpm hehe:devil: . That will be the final touch.


Now i need to get back to work. all i can think about is my car, and how much power i want it to have.


I GUESS THATS NORMAL WHEN YOU WANNA GO FAST AND FASTER AND FASTER..... YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN.

Gonthrax
05-14-2002, 02:06 PM
Originally posted by Super Spec V
Thanks for the info man!

As soon as my factory clutch is pooched, i will go and get a cusco one. this way i can spool up and lauch at 7000rpm hehe:devil: . That will be the final touch.


Now i need to get back to work. all i can think about is my car, and how much power i want it to have.


I GUESS THATS NORMAL WHEN YOU WANNA GO FAST AND FASTER AND FASTER..... YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN.

I feal ya man, 50% of my thoughts are devoted to figuring out the optimal R33 GTS-4 setup, and just getting the car is 6 months or so off :D

Check out Take Kaira Inc. (http://www.takakaira.com) for that clutch. And heaps of other parts too:rolleyes:

Gonthrax
05-14-2002, 02:24 PM
Double post, I know but :finger:

Spec V:

Here's some more clutches for ya :)
Ogura: Not sure if Take Kaira has one for your WRX but I think you can find one
Pics are for the R34 model
Single Plate Clutch System (high utility clutch series ORC409D: 400ps/55kgfm ORC309D&300D: 300pm/50kgfm)

Runs anywere from ¥99500(US$780) to ¥146000(US$1145)

http://www.takakaira.com/performance/ogura/1plate_clutch.jpg

Twin Plate Clutch System (super performance clutch series ORC709: 700ps/110kgfm ORC609&600: 600ps/100kgfm)
¥162000(US$1270) to ¥235000(US$1843)

http://www.takakaira.com/performance/ogura/2plate_clutch.jpg

Lol, of you could get this one:rolleyes:
http://www.takakaira.com/performance/ogura/4plate_clutch.jpg
Rated up to 1500ps :D :D :bloated:

Super Spec V
05-14-2002, 03:34 PM
DUDE THAT IS THE SICKEST SHIOT I EVER SEEN.

I think that if i were to put that clutch on my car (the last one) that i would need new drive axles eveytime i let off the clutch. LOLOL


Anyhow, it's a good idea to start looking around for this shit, so thanks for showing me.

A local distributer has alot of shit in stock for the rex, so i will go ask him what i can get for around 1000 bucks!!

If not ah well fuck it, ill get some more power mods and smoke the stock clutch till i can smell it in my sleep. Then ill have a good reason to pull out the plastic and buy a nice clutch.:D :frog:

Hopefully i can get the blowoff valve for the weekend.

Once i have all the pieces i will start tuning my REX for the 1/4 mile. I wanna be in the mid to low 13's wheni have evrything.

What do you think i would need to get my rex in the low 13's???????

Oh i know i would need more BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSSSSSSTTTTTTT!!!! that would do it. pppppppppppppppppppppppppsssssssshhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh hhhhhhh.


I LOVE TURBO CHARGERS:flash: :smoker: :silly2: :D :p :alien2: :frog:

Gonthrax
05-22-2002, 04:56 AM
Originally posted by Super Spec V


Once i have all the pieces i will start tuning my REX for the 1/4 mile. I wanna be in the mid to low 13's wheni have evrything.

What do you think i would need to get my rex in the low 13's???????

Oh i know i would need more BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSSSSSSTTTTTTT!!!! that would do it. pppppppppppppppppppppppppsssssssshhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh hhhhhhh.


I LOVE TURBO CHARGERS:flash: :smoker: :silly2: :D :p :alien2: :frog:

I'd say intake, down/up pipe, turbo back exhaust, lightened flywheel, boost controler (17psi), lightened pully, and clutch should getcha there if not a little more.

NB8CT
05-23-2002, 09:31 PM
I wanna buy that triple plate and hang it on my wall.........

Gonthrax
05-25-2002, 11:49 AM
Originally posted by NB8CT
I wanna buy that triple plate and hang it on my wall.........

Hehe, expensive decoration :) I'll just buy a burnt one off a race team and polish the housing up :D

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