http://www.srvidz.com/SRvidz_EVOViper_lowquality.wmv

This time with 4 passengers racing a 668 WHP viper.

He would have won if they had been lined up next to each other.

exactly. which is why the viper asked for a car. the evo still almost won.

Viper asks for a head start against the EVO with four passengers from a roll....Im gonna go ahead and consider this a kill for the EVO.

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You're right, Oh zhizznit!

To say I'm sorry, here's one against a 644 WHP Z06

http://srvidz.vidiac.com/Player.aspx?fileid=15D4D446-7C2A-43D0-8A77-FFF9B35F6368

And here's another link to the viper one

http://www.fastkars.com/SRvidz_EVOViper_lowquality.wmv

And here's a link from the Viper's point of view. These guys are GAY! "We just killed the Evo" haha, yeah right, just as the Evo was reeling them in and about to pass them, with a one car headstart.

http://home.comcast.net/~missscissors/evovsviper.wmv

rofl wow. really. wow. vette video is nice.. even in top gears the vette didnt pass. In the Viper vid if they would have been next to each other with more room in front, the evo would have been in the lead. God I want the parts in that evo!

To say I'm sorry, here's one against a 644 WHP Z06

http://srvidz.vidiac.com/Player.aspx?fileid=15D4D446-7C2A-43D0-8A77-FFF9B35F6368

srvidz...BOO THAT LINK!!!:grinyes: Nice vid none the less, this is one bad ass EVO.

yeah, not sure either on how the dudes in the viper "killed" that EVO. some really nice races tho

That evo is wicked...the guys in the Viper are morons.

Geez... why cant I have an Evo?

Lol. Great vids.

God I want that Evo!

At what speeds do you guys think they end the races?

At what speeds do you guys think they end the races?

one of those 2 vids shows the evo hitting redline in either 4th or 5th.. so...

4th approx 120 ish mph
and 5th 150?

hard to tell cause the car has a plug N play so their's no govenor or rev limiter im sure.

what it looks like just from watching Id say their hitting the top of 4th and calling it a day. Most of the SRvidz races dont end up with alot of room in front of them to keep it going

That EVO must be making more that what they're saying... those cars from a roll should be faster.

They've got more power... and... more importantly more Aerodynamic.

EVO's are pretty slippery, but the over all shape is that of a Refridgerator... with a wing. It's gotta have more than 601awhp... IMHO.

HOLY macaroni. every time i see that Evo i want to spend all my money on my engine. wowwww :eek7:

HOLY macaroni. every time i see that Evo i want to spend all my money on my engine. wowwww :eek7:

why? unless you have $30,000 to spend..you'd be nowhere near that fast.

That EVO must be making more that what they're saying... those cars from a roll should be faster.

They've got more power... and... more importantly more Aerodynamic.

EVO's are pretty slippery, but the over all shape is that of a Refridgerator... with a wing. It's gotta have more than 601awhp... IMHO.

I've raced a 04 Mustang Mach 1... v8, 320 hp and im stock from 3rd gear and he never passed me. <shrug>

and aerodynamics? ya car got slapped with a ugly stick but it moves threw high speeds with problem... back end doesnt wiggle and car just keeps accelerating.

thats true. but 15g could create a pretty nice powerplant

I've raced a 04 Mustang Mach 1... v8, 320 hp and im stock from 3rd gear and he never passed me. <shrug>

and aerodynamics? ya car got slapped with a ugly stick but it moves threw high speeds with problem... back end doesnt wiggle and car just keeps accelerating.

03 mach 1s are rated at 305hp..04s 310hp. that one must have been broken because I ran with evos when I was stock. of course i rape them now..but that's another post.

I've raced a 04 Mustang Mach 1... v8, 320 hp and im stock from 3rd gear and he never passed me. <shrug>

and aerodynamics? ya car got slapped with a ugly stick but it moves threw high speeds with problem... back end doesnt wiggle and car just keeps accelerating.


Who's car are you talking about? Mine or yours?
:rolleyes:

My 5.0 doesn't do very well at high speeds...130mph and the thing starts shaking like a mofo.

Who's car are you talking about? Mine or yours?
:rolleyes:

i think he's talking about yours. but i'd take the looks of a datsun 240z over a wannabe ricer looking evo anyday myself. :dunno:

Need For Speed Underground 2 has taught me that even a stock Miata can beat an Evo. True story too. Had bus lengths on it. So, anything is possible...

Who's car are you talking about? Mine or yours?
:rolleyes:

I think hes talking about his, it should be read as "ya the car" not "ya car". And Dampachi, why the hostility? Is someone mad that the allmight unbeatable American V8+ cars of d00m are getting whuped up on by a turboed 4 banger?

I think hes talking about his, it should be read as "ya the car" not "ya car". And Dampachi, why the hostility? Is someone mad that the allmight unbeatable American V8+ cars of d00m are getting whuped up on by a turboed 4 banger?

i didn't know the viper had a V8.:rolleyes: a faster car is a faster car. i don't give a fuck if it's got a 600+ cubic inch V12 or a fucking hampster in it. if it's fast, it's fast. i've never said anything against that evo. only that it was ugly. but still fast as shit. now, why are YOU being a jackass? are you down cuz' your car runs 17s? I'd give you 5 and the kick and still walk your slow piece. go dream about driving that m3 that you'll never touch.

i didn't know the viper had a V8

Thats why I said V8+<- note the plus sign you ignorant piece of shit. I know that they teach that means more (for the most part, unless you start dealing with negatives)...but then again, you did buy a Mustang. And yeah, my car runs 17s...thats why I hang with high 14, low 15 cars, and walk away from POS 93-97 V8 Stangs. But whatever. Not my problem your a moron. Keep dreaming about that fast Mustang.

Thats why I said V8+<- note the plus sign you ignorant piece of shit. I know that they teach that means more (for the most part, unless you start dealing with negatives)...but then again, you did buy a Mustang. And yeah, my car runs 17s...thats why I hang with high 14, low 15 cars, and walk away from POS 93-97 V8 Stangs. But whatever. Not my problem your a moron. Keep dreaming about that fast Mustang.

WOW! You HANG with low 15 second cars? Wow. That's fucking fast. 93-97 are two different body styles. "Your a moron"? You mean "you're"? And you're going to say I am ignorant and a moron? Okay. Oh..and I don't have to 'dream' about a fast mustang. i've been trying to find an M3 around here bold enough to race me. no luck. they're all too skurred of my POS rustang. :rolleyes:

That EVO must be making more that what they're saying... those cars from a roll should be faster.

They've got more power... and... more importantly more Aerodynamic.

EVO's are pretty slippery, but the over all shape is that of a Refridgerator... with a wing. It's gotta have more than 601awhp... IMHO.

I would be inclined to agree with you Matty. It doesn't make since. Now I haven't watched the video, it'd take too long to d/l, but a 640 rwhp car should beat a 601 awhp car from a roll.

I'd tell the owner he is full of shit if he expected me to believe it had 601 awhp if I knew for a fact the car it beat had 640 rwhp (from a roll). So unless he's spraying, then something is not adding up. Me thinks he's fudging on his numbers a little.

Yeah, don't get me wrong folks. I like the Evo's looks.. but in comparison to that of a Z06 and new Viper.

It's aerodynamics are that of a Fridge... large frontal area, tall roof... still pretty slippery but... I mean... Z06... Viper.

Those are purpose built to go fast on the highway/race track. EVO's are rally cars, they don't usually hit over 100mph...

i would love to see that evo going against a ferrari or lambo. Would be hot to see. :smokin: :smokin:

And yeah , now i understand the banning of dampachi,lol :shakehead

Who's car are you talking about? Mine or yours?
:rolleyes:

was talking about my 05 evo.

chevytrucks92 - he isnt spraying and thats his real hp's. There are about 5-6 vids out on this car atm and its widely talked about on the evo forums where the guy even posts. Watch more of the vids and show me where he hits the magic button if you still think he uses N2O. Till then its a 601 hp v8 raping 4 banger... that seats 4.

the mach 1.. sorry ya 310hp is right.. I got 320 hp from www.mach1registry.com a mustang site that doesnt know their crap...

that evo is one badass mofo, makes me wanna steal the one that some kid at my school owns.

Actually with the video against the viper it shows him on the dyno and it says 638 WHP. The viper puts 668 to the wheels.

A reason to win the lottery, get an EVO like that, but with more HP :devil:

Maybe the people he is racing are lying about their numbers :confused: but I too think he might be playing down his numbers. Also notice at the end of the Z06 race the Z06 starts to reel him in then he seems to shoot off again. He may have used N2O there. Not saying he did but could have.

maybe he has the nos button somewhere he can push it with his leg.

Like under the gas pedal. Seen that done numerous times back on da rez...

Although, that's the most dangerous place to locate it...

Like under the gas pedal. Seen that done numerous times back on da rez...

Although, that's the most dangerous place to locate it...


How so? It's actually safer for the motor to have nitrous on a throttle activated switch...

Having to manually release a button each time you shift is dangerous, cause if you let off the gas and keep the button down for too long by accident and you start burning Nitrous and no fuel... you'll run lean instantly and could burn up a piston or two in a heartbeat.

Having it on a microswitch that's throttle activated, like WOT is safe. Cause each time you shift and let off the gas, it turns the nitrous off to keep things safe.

No fuel + No Nitrous = Safe happy motor.
No fuel + Nitrous = Dangerous unhappy motor.

good point but do you want to use N2O during the whole race? Won't that fuck up your engine?

Not if you've got the mixture and everything tuned correctly.

Nitrous isn't dangerous, if you use it right. But, you fuck up one minor thing. And you're hosed.

All Nitrous is, is an oxidizer. It allows more oxygen to be used during the combustion cycle. That's why you need bigger injectors to run Nitrous safely, cause you're 'forcing' more air (oxygen) into the combustion chamber.

So, if you don't have the right amount of fuel to go with that big ol shot of Nitrous.. you'll run lean... which is bad. That causes all sorts of heat to build up faster than you can imagine.

Which is bad. Real bad. Like Melting pistons bad.

But, if you've got the correct tune... it's a wonderful power adder. People think it's cheap to use, which it is... the kit itself isn't all that much in comparison to a Turbo or supercharger. But to run it effectively and safely.

Start adding up the cost of injectors, fuel management systems, nitrous purging systems... the list goes on. And you're just about there with the cost of a turbo.

o thx for the info

I should have clarified what I meant.

Back East, I have witnessed quite a few car incidents happen involving the use of Nitrous. One accident involved my buddies Trans Am using Nitrous with the button located under the pedal. Well, his name is Zach.

He had just raced a few friends with his new set up on his TA (auto). On his way home, he forgot that the lines were still open for use, and he turned a corner, not even thinking about it, hammered the gas. Well, he had a quick jolt for a second, which ended up wrapping his car around a telephone pole on the opposite side of the road.

That's not the best example to say it's dangerous. But that's just how I viewed it. Not a good idea IMHO. Nothing wrong with using Nitrous in my book, though. I just feel there are safer ways to locate the "Go Baby Go!" button. But don't take my advice on that. Just expressing my opinion about it.

chevytrucks92 - he isnt spraying and thats his real hp's. There are about 5-6 vids out on this car atm and its widely talked about on the evo forums where the guy even posts. Watch more of the vids and show me where he hits the magic button if you still think he uses N2O. Till then its a 601 hp v8 raping 4 banger... that seats 4.

Well, I dont know, but I still say he's bull shitting everybody with his 601 awhp. Its just not possible for a vehicle with less hp and less aerodynamics to beat another vehicle with more hp and better aerodynmaics from a roll.

And just because you dont press a button doesn't mean you don't have nitrous. You can set nitrous up with RPM activators to come in where ever you set the dial.

I mean you've never met me other then on this forum and I dont think you've ever met him (or if you have, I missed where you said you did). My point is, I coudl tell ya my car's got 1000 hp and runs 4.40s in the 1/8th, and could even show ya a slip that says 4.40 1/8th ET (every slip I've ever posted has 4.40s for 1/8th ETs, but its really 330 ft), but that doesn't mean it actually does all that. See what I mean??

Thats a pretty valid point.

ya you do have a valid point. But I just dont see any reason for him to not mention/lie about spraying. All the info posted about the car deny/dont mention N2O and from what Ive seen I believe it.

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Well, I dont know, but I still say he's bull shitting everybody with his 601 awhp. Its just not possible for a vehicle with less hp and less aerodynamics to beat another vehicle with more hp and better aerodynmaics from a roll.
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other vid shows 638 whp on a mustang dyno. I dont understand the aerodynamics point.. ya evo is fugly compared to the new z06.. but it accelerates just fine all the way threw 5th. And I have personally never had a problem with v8's with higher horsepower ( within say 40hp) going from a roll. Mustang Mach 1 310 hp from a 3rd gear roll and he wasnt going nowhere even into 4th. They have 34 hp than my car and if anything with more room I was going to be passing him. 5 years ago I would be saying there was no way as I was a die hard mustang person. Since then Ive learned alot with awd dsm's and my price gouging evo. The output on the 4g63 is just ridiculous with not alot of money.

For knowledge sake, I'll try to get a solid post from the guy on evolutionm.net about n2o.. yeah he could lie but I believe he has no reason to and I have no way to independantly prove otherwise. :)

edit: just checked yeah it shows 638 WHP on a mustang dyno.. so figure low numbers then with about 15% drivetrain loss were talking about low 700's hp. Heres the link for the dyno pull
http://forums.evolutionm.net/showthread.php?t=144042&page=6&pp=15

I have sorry dial up so I can't watch the video, but I believe ya, lol. And it doesn't matter either way to me whether the guy is spraying or not, lol. Regardless, its a bad car and in no way am I trying to down it because its an import 4-cylinder (and I am, asyou can tell, a diehard Chevrolet person). It is a fast car and I actually think the EVOs look pretty good.

All I'm saying is those numbers don't add up, BUT alot of other factors come in other then just power and aerodynamics. Gearing also plays very important part, and this guy may have a gear that keeps his car firmly in its powerband.

word. I always liked the firechicken ws6.. but years and years ago a GT was more in my price range than a ws6. Then I got converted to the dark side.

good point but do you want to use N2O during the whole race? Won't that fuck up your engine?
not if your engine can handle it of course. Your not suppose to use it too soon or to late. You have to use it where it is most benefical for the cause. I wouldn't use it the whole race.

not if your engine can handle it of course. Your not suppose to use it too soon or to late. You have to use it where it is most benefical for the cause. I wouldn't use it the whole race.

I take it you learned that from Johnny Tran? It's never too late or too soon to use it :evillol:...

No it is never too late or too early. But if you get wheel hopping tire spin because you want the fastest acceleration or wasted power because you already maxed out you hp for that gear......

No it is never too late or too early. But if you get wheel hopping tire spin because you want the fastest acceleration or wasted power because you already maxed out you hp for that gear......


I'm sorry, but your statement makes no sense at all...:screwy:

nah man.
Next time I'll make sure I'll use it when I am at a stop light after the light changes green or when I am at 8k rpms when my car only goes to 8k. I'll be making the most of my money then.

You sure will, and when you do that, let me know so I can laugh my ass off and point at the computer and mock you :rolleyes:

It makes absoutely no sense for the Evo owner to post underrated power numbers in the videos. His tuner, AMS, is more or less using those videos as an advertisement to other Evo owners for their parts and their shop. If anything it would make sense for them to overrrate the power numbers they put down on the dyno. Tuners always point to dyno numbers and/or track times to yank their own chains.

If any of the horsepower numbers in those videos are incorrect it would be the cars racing the Evo. I doubt the Evo owner is demanding dyno slips before agreeing to a race.

Speaking about the numbers. The car dynoed at 601AWHP @ 30PSI according to the videos. Also it clearly says that the car is running 35PSI at the time of the race.

ooOOOoohh, I didn't even notice that.

Keen observation, Sherlock!

Well, this EVO murder makes a lil more sense. I was looking at the other cars on srvidz....did anyone else see the old school camaro rape the EVO from a roll? It said he has a 412 ci. motor and uses a 300 shot of nitrous.....:eek:

I was wondering when they would get a viper on this EVO too, there's a fair number of supercharged and turbo'ed vipers floating around that will rape on the top end. I have a vid of such a viper taking modded ninjas and gixxers from a roll.

ooOOOoohh, I didn't even notice that.

Keen observation, Sherlock!

Well, this EVO murder makes a lil more sense. I was looking at the other cars on srvidz....did anyone else see the old school camaro rape the EVO from a roll? It said he has a 412 ci. motor and uses a 300 shot of nitrous.....:eek:

Video was posted, and a huge e cock fight insued over the vailibility of a purpose built race car beating a daily driver...I still hold that the kill was legit...but I'd hardly call what looks to be just over a carlength "raping"...and the fact that the EVO held that well with a purpose built is amazing.

And I have some videos of vipers taking out motorcycles from rolls, however, after showing them to some motorcycle buddies of mine, they all say that they aren't litter bikes, but the 600-750s, and in one they laughed at how bad the rider was shifting...but they would be biased. Still...if I had my choice, I'd take a 'Bussy over a Viper any day. Thats just me.

Video was posted, and a huge e cock fight insued over the vailibility of a purpose built race car beating a daily driver...I still hold that the kill was legit...but I'd hardly call what looks to be just over a carlength "raping"...and the fact that the EVO held that well with a purpose built is amazing.


Actually, the fact that a purpose built "track car" beat a street car with 600+ hp on the streets is amazing. Race cars don't do so hot on the street. Mine probalby doesn't have 600 hp at the flywheel, let alone the back tires but your car would beat me on the streets. I just couldn't hook up, not even a little bit.

Put that race on a track and it would have been more then a raping if the Camaro beat it by a car lenght on the streets (I never watched the video). But anyways, track cars, or purpose built cars suck on the streets, lol. So loosing by a car lenght on the street to a track car is nothing to brag about at all. Now if it were on a drag strip it'd be a little different story though.

In the video they raced from like a 50 mph roll. So its kind of a different situation

In the video they raced from like a 50 mph roll. So its kind of a different situation

Well, I never seen the video nor do I know anything about the Camaro other then what I read on here, so I really can't say much about it, lol. I just know my car wouldn't hook worth a shit on the street, no matter if it was from a dead stop or a 50 mph roll, lol and its a purpose built race car, lol.

Either way, that EVO is a bad street car that somebody has spent A LOT of money on.

Actually, the fact that a purpose built "track car" beat a street car with 600+ hp on the streets is amazing. Race cars don't do so hot on the street. Mine probalby doesn't have 600 hp at the flywheel, let alone the back tires but your car would beat me on the streets. I just couldn't hook up, not even a little bit.

Put that race on a track and it would have been more then a raping if the Camaro beat it by a car lenght on the streets (I never watched the video). But anyways, track cars, or purpose built cars suck on the streets, lol. So loosing by a car lenght on the street to a track car is nothing to brag about at all. Now if it were on a drag strip it'd be a little different story though.

I dunno. Watch the video. They're starting at close to freeway speeds. Traction is not an issue in this particular race...especially considering the Camaro is sporting about 40 inches of rear tire. If anything the Evo's parasitic drivetrain loss can be considered a disadvantage.

In this case the "track" car is a dragster, not an autox cruiser also. Which leads me to wonder how the AWD Evo would fair from a dig. Before all you AWD lovers blurt out "teh Ebo will smoke it yo", keep in mind that a purpose built 500hp+ dragster like the Camaro in that video will put down 60ft times very similair to an Evo...1.4 - 1.6 seconds. Additionally that Evo most likely wouldn't need to shift into 5th gear (a cruising gear) to finish the 1/4 mile. My vote goes to the Evo in the 1320ft, but I'm really impressed how it did against the Camaro in that freeway run. Not to make excuses, but a 50-120mph sprint is the forte for a heavy V8 muscle car. The Evo is designed to be 0-100mph monster.

Well, I would try and d/l it but I've got very slow dial up now and it'd probably take 2 hours to get it d/led, lol.

My car probably has 500 hp and its a purpose built drag car. My best 60' to date is a 1.464 and that came at a track that is always a tenth slower then every other track I've ever been too. So, I'm gonna say I could pull 1.39s at most any other track.

Anyways, I'll agree with ya that those 50-120 mph sprints are not what an AWD car is "designed" for, but its even more so not what a purpose built drag car is designed for, lol. So I wouldn't bet against a purpose built drag car on a track going up against a street car.

Has this guy gone to the track yet? I think we need to see some numbers.

I would guess that he might have buckets of turbo lag, probably fry the clutch clean off the evo, or he might have traction issues with the evo in a strip. but i honestly think off the line most of the cars hes raced should own him.

that is one sick car, it really is. ANd those guys in the viper, damn i wouldnt be suprised if the passenger bent over and gave the driver a blowjob.

I also think its pretty damn funny that Dampachi finally got banned, always hated that cock SOB.