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born khatarnak
06-05-2005, 12:12 AM
i kno the gsr will eat the b16a2 stock for stock but which engine is better for a turbo application? lets say for someone on a budget of $5,000. this will include the engine swap building internals and turbo setup. which will be best?

CivicSpoon
06-05-2005, 12:22 AM
For $5,000 you'd be able to get the engine and the turbo kit, but unless you're getting a deal on both then there's no way you're going to have the $ left over to do internals. And even with the GS-R you'd have to get a deal better than most sites online sell the engines or turbo kit for, or you wouldn't have enough for both with that budget.

superbluecivicsi
06-05-2005, 12:23 AM
both are good for boost. if you are on a tight budget, the b16 is the obvious choice.

search, read, learn a little more before you do anything, and you will learn that BEST is not the propewr tem to use. not to mention, your money will be better spent.

PS: $5000 for the swap, turbo setup, and build. its not going to happen. are you even thinking about the misc cost.

97integrals
06-05-2005, 12:37 AM
i kno the gsr will eat the b16a2 stock for stock but which engine is better for a turbo application? lets say for someone on a budget of $5,000. this will include the engine swap building internals and turbo setup. which will be best?
swap and turbo for $5,000 will not happen! What motor do you have right now, you might want to consider just the turbo. What car is this going in?

born khatarnak
06-05-2005, 03:31 AM
hey guys. well 5,000 was just a rough number i picked out so people wouldnt ask me later how much do i plan on spending lol. but i wanted to know which engine will be better for a turbo setup. i want it to run mid to high 12s and was wondering which engine will it be cheaper to do that with. also this car will be a daily driver and i was leaning toward the gsr because of the torque. hope u can help

superbluecivicsi
06-05-2005, 12:14 PM
hey guys. well 5,000 was just a rough number i picked out so people wouldnt ask me later how much do i plan on spending lol. but i wanted to know which engine will be better for a turbo setup. i want it to run mid to high 12s and was wondering which engine will it be cheaper to do that with. also this car will be a daily driver and i was leaning toward the gsr because of the torque. hope u can help

the b16 is going to be the obvious budget swap. both the b16a2 and b18c1 are daily drivable. both will also get you in the 12s. consider boosting on a stock block and grabbing a standalone engine management system. search, search, search ;) there is tons of info out there.

pimprolla112
06-05-2005, 12:22 PM
You could do the LS vtech swap i forget what all is involved for it to wokr right as far as i remember you need an integra ls block and a b series vtech head. One of my friends knows a local honda guru and he claims there is little to machine and it gives you a decent amount of torque. If you want to do it cheap you can always use ebay sometimes risky but if you save a couple hundred on the turbo kit and the swap then you would have a more left over for internals. Thats one of your other options.

born khatarnak
06-05-2005, 06:27 PM
hey thanks a lot guys. one more question. what advantages does the b16a2 have over the gsr other than cost? again thanks a lot for your input

CivicSpoon
06-05-2005, 08:19 PM
There is no advantage. The GS-R already has more torque than the b16a2. And depending on which versions of the engines you're refering to (jdm or usdm), the GS-R will have 10hp on the b16a (thought the usdm GS-R has the same hp as the jdm b16a SiR2). Are you meaning the b16a2 as the real meaning (USDM '99-'00 Civic Si engine) or as the JDM B16a SiR2?

superbluecivicsi
06-05-2005, 09:11 PM
hey thanks a lot guys. one more question. what advantages does the b16a2 have over the gsr other than cost? again thanks a lot for your input

when it comes to boosting these two motors. either one is suitable. both are capable of 300 hp with their stock sleeves.

actually, any b-series motor is capabable of decent boost with their stock sleeves with the exception of the b20 of course. search, search, search. if you are still just trying to figure what motor you are trying to boost, their are going to be more important questions down the road.

born khatarnak
06-06-2005, 05:19 PM
Are you meaning the b16a2 as the real meaning (USDM '99-'00 Civic Si engine) or as the JDM B16a SiR2?

i mean the jdm b16a sir2 wit 170 hp. hey thanks a lot guys nd i will do my research, btw, i just wanna be able 2 keep up with my brothers g35 that hez gonna get. i ego cant stand being left in the dust.

QUICK_EG_B16A
07-01-2005, 01:31 PM
Man I Hate To Tell You This But Just My Swap Alone Was 4600. A B16a (JDM SIRII) Into 92 Civic Hatch(cx Non-vtec B4 Swap) unless you plan on doing the swap entirley yourself, plan on only a swap.

jcrx
07-01-2005, 06:11 PM
Man I Hate To Tell You This But Just My Swap Alone Was 4600. A B16a (JDM SIRII) Into 92 Civic Hatch(cx Non-vtec B4 Swap) unless you plan on doing the swap entirley yourself, plan on only a swap.
Wow, you got raped by the WHOLE cellblock.


And depending on which versions of the engines you're refering to (jdm or usdm), the GS-R will have 10hp on the b16a (thought the usdm GS-R has the same hp as the jdm b16a SiR2). Are you meaning the b16a2 as the real meaning (USDM '99-'00 Civic Si engine) or as the JDM B16a SiR2?
Doesn't really matter though, once boosted stock specs go right out the window.

If it were me, I'd go with the B16A if I were on a budget, if my budget could afford the extra grand, go for the GSR. Why? Because the GSR has a stronger block, and can take more abuse before touching the insides.

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