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won't start, 5 chimes


Elvis101
06-01-2005, 09:26 PM
I have a 2001 Grand Am, I shut it down normal, when I returned an hour later it wouldn't start. It turns over good and fires one time then it fires no more. Like it just about fires one time every time i reset the key.
We changed the fuel pump and filter. Same thing. Now every time we try and start it it chimes 5 times and the security light flashes.

Does anyone have any ideas please?

Forkliftguy
06-01-2005, 09:40 PM
Sounds like a faulty ignition switch, notorious on the last gen GA's. The switch wears out fast on some for some reason causing the security system to think the car is being hot wired instead of started with the key. Usually no amount of reprogramming will solve this because it is a mechanical issue. I would start there.

Marc

Ridenour
06-01-2005, 09:42 PM
Welcome to the forum. I agree with Marc - it sounds like a security issue. You could try doing a security relearn. Try the following:

1) Attempt to start the car by turning the key to the Start/Run Position.

2) Observe that the vehicle fails to start and that the security light is illuminated.

3) Release key to the 'ON/Accessory' Position. (DO NOT turn key to the 'off' position.)

4) Allow the vehicle to sit with the key in the 'ON/Accessory' Position for no less than 11 minutes.
5) Turn key to off position and allow the vehicle to remain in the 'OFF' position for no less than 30 seconds.

6) Repeat #1 - #5 for 3 cycles.

On 4th attempt, car should start.

NOTE : Since this is a fairly long procedure, I would limit all electrical sources, such as disconnecting headlights, to prevent discharge of battery.

NOTE 2 : It is SAFE to wait LONGER than the allotted time, but it is not safe to wait less time. I.e. 12 minutes instead of 11 minutes should be safe; however, waiting 10 minutes instead of 11 minutes is not safe.

Forkliftguy
06-01-2005, 09:51 PM
What, who's that on my heels, oh, hey Ridenour. You must have popped into this post just as I was getting out or something, that was fast. Damn GM and there crazy ways. Beats needing a scantool to reprogram I guess.

Elvis101
06-01-2005, 10:10 PM
Got it guys, embarrassing but I put the rear tires back on the ground and presto, the fuel pump had fuel to pump again. It had a little under 1/4 tank but not enough to get the fuel pump wet.
Now I probably lost 1/2 my life on the new pump cranking it dry.

Thanks Guys

Ridenour
06-01-2005, 11:15 PM
LoL wow who'da thunkit? :) Well that's nice to know that that's all it was - something so simple. I wouldn't worry about the fuel pump - crankin it just a few times dry shouldn'tve hurt it much.

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