I was wondering if it is possible to swap a b16 or b18 motor into a new civic (2001-2002), and if you could is there a lot of modifications that needs to be done?

no not possible. when doing an engine swap you need a motor that is the same year or newer. otherwise it is illegal.


Becca

he is correct, I wouldn't really see the point in swapping a B16 into a new Civic in the first place but to further explain that it's illegal let me explain to you why it cannot be done. Basically there is nonOBD OBD1 OBD2 OBD3. Basically OBD is based on emission controls and if you want the easiest swap just stick with your OBD that is on your car. Bottom line. In cases you can go out of your OBD range but it is just giving u harder work dealing with adding O2 sensors in the such.

You should go to a engine site and e-mail them!?

Originally posted by sweetcarz.com
he is correct,


he??? last time i checked i was a she. let me check again..........yup. still a she. :D


Becca

Hey would it be possible to swap a K20 into a 7th gen civics? Just a though :o :D

i'm thinking it is possible. but i'm not sure if they have the mounts kits and stuff for it yet. but if they don't i'm sure they will soon.


Becca

yes u can swap the K20, there are mounts and from what I hear HASport should be coming out with it soon. Sorry about that scooter.

Yep Hasport should be releasing their kit soon for swapping the K20 into the new civics.:)

hmm well if you are talking about a sedan or coupe, and the NEW civic is a 2001 model - you COULD get a 2001 integra Type R B18C and drop it in...

the NEW civic uses an engine based on a d-series ( 1.7L SOHC VTEC ) so I'd say there wouldn't be too much work involved..

if you're talking about the new Si hatchy... the only motor to swap in there is a K20 i'm afraid... or perhaps the new CRV's i-VTEC torque monster..

the NEW civic uses an engine based on a d-series ( 1.7L SOHC VTEC ) so I'd say there wouldn't be too much work involved..

it shouldn't be hard but it wouldn't be legal. considering the law is the motor has to be same year or newer than the car it is going in to.

Becca

it also doesnt help that the B16 is backwards for that engine bay, sitting on the right side instead of the left

umm why not get a brand new CTR motor? Prolly pay a pretty penny for it, but if you want a swap badly...there ya go

Dont worry about the swap, i think the new civics look horrible anyways (cept the ctr...omg)...just get someone to import a ctr for ya...wait until they get like 50g km on em, then someone will be importing them, we get last gen itr's in canada imported and sold to us for like $25g...with tonne o mods on em...most companies who import parts could get the whole car if you ask nicely

First of all, pardon my ignorance. What is a K20? RSX possibly? And correct me if I am wrong but isn't the older swap only illegal if you get emissions tests done? I live in Indy and we don't have to have our cars tested so there would never be a way for them to tell. Just my $.02

tommy

Originally posted by Scooter Bug



he??? last time i checked i was a she. let me check again..........yup. still a she. :D


Becca

Can I check just to make sure?:D

Originally posted by HamsterStyle
First of all, pardon my ignorance. What is a K20? RSX possibly? And correct me if I am wrong but isn't the older swap only illegal if you get emissions tests done? I live in Indy and we don't have to have our cars tested so there would never be a way for them to tell. Just my $.02

tommy

yes the k20 is in the RSX. and yes it would only be illegal to put an older motor into another newer car if you have to pass emissions. I think (don't quote me). I'm thinking thought that it would still be illegal considering it is a federal law not just a state law. But you still may want to check into that.


Can I check just to make sure? No frostbyte you may not check :D. you can trust me.

Becca

how many people here have JDM engines in there civics? I do and I know alot of other people that do yes you need it to be the same year or newer but you don't drive up to the smog station pop your hood and say I just put a older engine in my car just keep your mouth shut and let your car pass =)

as for the newer civics its much harder to get them to pass smog since they have a much harder test to pass more strict

same for 96+ civics they are harder to pass then 95 and under

anyways sure the law says you can't but then again whats the point of putting it in if your going to fallow the law then you can't go over 55 on the main roads or spin tires or take off fast from a light or or or....

bottom line on why you CAN"T put a B engine in a newer honda is honda has always build there engines to spin the wrong way "VS other companys" thats why the engine is on the driver side VS most cars having it on the passager side if you look into it "if I remember right" honda started to make engines for GM so they rebuild the engines to spin the other direction thats why you will see the new civics/RSX with the engine turned around exhuast on the back side and intake on the front VS the old exhuast right up front

you could put a B engine in a newer civics but it would take alot of work since everythings backwards and Im sure the motor mounts don't line up like our older civics/tegs

if you do anything with a 2001+ civic I would say drive it becuase its kinda dumb to swap out a 20K mile or less engine atlest get some miles on it first plus the new engines are showing to be pretty powerful still in the first stages of being tuned but I bet in a few years they will be the next B engine just look at the torque #s much better then the old SI even tho the older SI was quicker and had a more race feeling to it

anywho if anything swap a RSX engine or sell your car buy a 92 civic with blown engine swap a B18 then turbo it and do the body kit paint and whole 9 yards and still have money left over to pay your other bills

15K in a 92 could get you very far plus its about 400-500 LBS lighter=) thats a 1/2 sec right there

very well said thanks for clarifying that.


Becca

:D Unfortunately, the B16 series engines definitely will not fit into a 7th gen civic. The engine bay is too small. The only option ( that don't require major body work) currently being discussed (and in at least one instance, attempted) is a swap for the k20A2 (RSX-S) engine. The D17A2 engine in 7th gens doesn't respond well to modification, and is very limiting. HAsport is currently fabricating motor mounts to undergo the swap, but there are limiting factors such as the engine sitting on the opposite side of the engine bay and rotating in the opposite direction, let alone possible loss of A/C and power steering (as if we need that :D ). I have plans for a k20 swap in the future, but not until the price for an engine drops below $3000, and maybe not even unless I can get the JDM 2002 ITR engine, which makes I think 220hp, compared to the RSX-S 200hp.