After reading numerous and old threads I've decided to go N/A even though I want a turbo. I knew it was bad in CA but I didnt know u could fail a SMOG check for having a turbo setup even though it passed the emissions test. And I didnt know that the cops can impound my car if it does have a turbo. I figured I was just given a fix-it-ticket. I read that GREDDY has a CARB Exempt Turbo so I was going to look into that and see if I could get away with having that. Anyone have any recommendations or input on this matter??

well i could understand if you're in cali...

i guess it's playing it safe... which is smart in it's own sense. It really depends how much you wanted the turbo setup. I think someone should go for a fully naturally aspirated KA and beat some sr's with it... lolz... it's not impossible i can tell you that.

If you want a trubo bad enough i could put in a couple hours under my car putting the stock exhaust system back on...then putting turbo everything else on when test is over. Leave inter Cooler piping there and just get the HKS end filter for the end of your FMIC...iunno if im making sense

Yeah, maybe you can make the most powerful NA KA out there, or move out of state, like right on the edge and drive in everyday. :-P

I think someone should go for a fully naturally aspirated KA and beat some sr's with it... lolz... it's not impossible

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Does anyone know of a CARB certified header or exhaust for our cars? I was checking and saw that Hot Shot Headers are not CARB certified and I really dont feel like swapping out too many things every 2 years.

Should(Could) I swap a 1997 KA24DE into my 1993 for $550? The 1997 has 100,000 miles while my 1993 has almost 160,000. I was asking cuz the Greddy turbo kit would have to be put on the 1997 engine since it is CARB Legal and therefore I still could Turbo the car. Let me know.

where are you getting this engine? i'd say yeah if its in better shape than your original one

There in lies the problem. Its from our friendly online retailer, ebay motors. Its at $305 right now(2 hrs. to go) but I can try bidding on it and then pay 150 for shipping.

what i normally do is read all the feedback and see what people say about the company or person and if its sketchy whatsoever then i wouldn't buy it.. but if its a reputable company or guy then go for it

Ok good advice but to answer my question: Can you put a 97 or 98 KA24 into a 1993? Im pretty sure you could but I would have to get a new ECU right? and wiring harness and all that stuff.

Swap in some SOHC pistons, do a cam upgrade(JWT, PDM racing), IHE with high flow cat, and an ECU upgrade. You'll be puttin some power down. Also consider weight reduction along with drivetrain mods like a lighter clutch/flywheel/driveshaft. An ignition system wouldn't be a bad thought. Just for now, advance base timing a couple degrees for some extra power. Don't run 87 though if you advance. www.ka-t.org/tech will tell you how.

Intake and Header where going to be first upgrades. And then new clutch, flywheel, and pulley set from BD following after. Internals and ECU were going to be last since its running fine now, kinda wanna get a ECU that will work with the setup I have, and $$$. By the way do you know of a CARB certified header? And what's a good cat, doesnt have to be CARB certified since thats an easier swap. And Im running 91 cuz thats the best Cali can do (So concerned about CARB legal but cant get better gas).

Well, you have to spend money to make your car go fast. No one way around it. Greddy stuff is almost always carb certified. And I believe the Hotshot header is as well. JWT may have an ECU that will work with stock stuff, but 370s are only like $100 on Ebay. Cams are pretty much undetectable by the average joe. IDK if they will show up on smog, but I doubt it. Catco.

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well i could understand if you're in cali...

i guess it's playing it safe... which is smart in it's own sense. It really depends how much you wanted the turbo setup. I think someone should go for a fully naturally aspirated KA and beat some sr's with it... lolz... it's not impossible i can tell you that.


fuck no its not

a 220hp NA ka24de is not really that hard to do, it would be less money then swapping in a stock Sr20det.... and it would beat a stock sr20det and probably take on some with I/E.

Greddy stuff is almost always carb certified. And I believe the Hotshot header is as well.
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I went to hot shot's website and it clearly states that their headers are not CARB certified and therefore are only intended for off road use.

EDIT: Oh and I know that you have to spend money to make your car go fast I just meant that I dont have money and therefore I need to upgrade like just about everyone else, One piece at a time.

just buy whatever you want and throw a CARB sticker on there, you should be cool.

Where do you get the stickers? And if it is that easy what's the point of having to get your parts approved by CARB? What are the consequences of lying and getting caught? Impounded car anyone??

i would say: ebay, friends, people on forums, or any sort of local tuner shop if you slip them some $.

and basically cops just look to see a sticker. if an fbi task force comes after you they will probably check the # and shit and you will get caugt and thats all bad but if you have stickers on there i think you will be fine with local cops.

Got it. And yeah Im not planning on ricing out my car or trying to get pulled over anyway with like a 2 foot high spoiler, limo tint, body kit (anytime soon, but even then it'll be like a nismo style bodykit, very subtle) or an excessively loud exhaust.

Thats what I did. One piece at a time.

Then forget the header. I didn't feel much of a difference anyway. Do I/H first. Cross that bridge when you get to it.

Alright for u Cali guys like me, I was doing a little research and for the 91-94 the only CARB certified header that I could find was the DC Sports Ceramic Header. So if you dont want to swap out your header every 2 years or fear of getting pulled over by a cop that knows a little something about cars here u go. It might not be as good as a Hot Shot header(since I've heard that Hot Shot is the best) but u get a little piece of mind.

So if the smog guys see your turbo under the hood of your car, you fail the test even though the turbo is CARB certified?

Im not trying to be biased or anything here. Its just when a tuner wants to modify his/her car and just wants to go fast, they want to do it right without the whole mix up with the smog and the tree huggers.

I also live in Cali too (Central Cali) and i have a lot of friends that mod out their cars too.

DC sports makes a header for the 240sx?

So if the smog guys see your turbo under the hood of your car, you fail the test even though the turbo is CARB certified?

Well no not necessarily. The only turbo that is CARB certified for our cars is the Greddy turbo kit but only for the 97-98 models.

And yeah I know, DC Sports does make a header. I thought they only dealt with Honda/Acura but upon researching and looking around with all the major aftermarket dealers I found that DC Sports makes a Ceramic Header that also happens to be CARB certified.

dude... i have SR and i do smog (hookups) and i never got a pulled over or did anything stupid to get the cops to pop my hood.

if u want to go the smog legal stuff.... don't mod the car.

be smart...

BTW i live in SOCAL.... and yeah, i don't street race.

if u want to go the smog legal stuff.... don't mod the car.

First of all, if I want to mod my car I can do it however I want. Just so happens I want to do it Smog Legal cuz I really cant afford to get my ONLY car impounded.

Second of all, I'm only looking to get the intake and header smog legal cuz that is the most noticeable if they decide to pop my hood.

As far as other performance parts such as internals, I could put whatever the hell I want cuz they're never going to know.

Lastly, I know someone that can do smog checks for $300 but point is I really dont want/need an SR swap that bad. I'd rather stick with the KA and see what I can do N/A.

Why are you mad at me? Really, modifying your car is not legal (don’t get technical with me about what the word “modifying”. intake and exhausted will attract attention and get you pulled over)


Anyway,

Intake and exhaust are NOT LEGAL ANYWAY BRO IN CAL!

So whatever you do, you will get a ticket if you are unlucky and a police feels like pulling you over.

My friend is an LAPD, he doesn’t pull over ricers because the LAPD have more important stuff to do. But at places like Garden Groove, Torrance, Manhattan beach, they will pull you over. (Many stories I can bring up to back up my point, no need to do so. I bet you have your own story too. COPS don’t like modified cars, especially at night)

BTW 300 $ for a smog check? WOW, dude I pay $80 …

I never got pulled over, my car looks like crap, that helps allot… my BOV and exhaust are quite too.

Aye Aye i fucken hate tree huggers in Cali!!!!