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Gm S.czx3dod 03-07-2005, 12:33 AM I have a few questions about the GM 2.2L Ecotech S.C that they sell, first of all i cant find it anywhere and was hoping someone could link the site for me, second do they sell this in a kit with everything else i need to make the S.C run or do i have to go out and buy anything such as a new fuel pump/intercooler, ect ect. Next question is how much would it cost to get a shop to install it, does it depend on the shop/area and the ammout of hours spent on it?? Last question is would i need to buy new internalls for my car, i think the GM S.C is made for the stock 2.2L ecotech but i just want to make sure. -Jayson- 03-07-2005, 01:41 AM you cant find a Gm supercharger for the 2.2L ecotec cause it isnt out, and prolly never will be. DARKRAIN 03-07-2005, 06:27 PM Rsm Makes a s/c for2.2 ecotech. It's basically the only one available to the public. go to highrevmotorsports noshun 03-07-2005, 10:07 PM Rsm Makes a s/c for2.2 ecotech. It's basically the only one available to the public. go to highrevmotorsports Or direct at www.rsmracing.com it's a centrifugal Vortech type though, not the 'roots' like the Eaton M-45/M-62 GM use! That RSM kit though is a real easy install! zx3dod 03-08-2005, 07:42 PM Thanks guys, allthough it will be quite some time b4 i can get one since i will have to get new pistons, connection rods, ect ect to handle the S/C. -Jayson- 03-08-2005, 11:30 PM Their is no 2.2L ecotec supercharger! And their is a 99% chance that their never will be one. And even if you did get it, you dont need to replace the internals. KustmAce 03-09-2005, 12:08 AM Their is no 2.2L ecotec supercharger! And their is a 99% chance that their never will be one. And even if you did get it, you dont need to replace the internals. RSM Racing says different. Lists a Stage I and Stage II RSM Supercharger kit for a 2.2L Ecotec for $3900 and $4900. -Jayson- 03-09-2005, 12:13 AM RSM Racing says different. Lists a Stage I and Stage II RSM Supercharger kit for a 2.2L Ecotec for $3900 and $4900. ugh. . .were talking about the GM supercharger TunerAdept 03-09-2005, 01:49 AM ugh. . .were talking about the GM supercharger actually, i just read it, you were talking about a gm supercharger, all they wanted to do was put a supercharger on their ecotec, doesnt necessarily mean they wanted gm certified. also, your second responce wasnt about gm, your words said there will never be a supercharger for the ecotec, well, there are several. DARKRAIN 03-09-2005, 08:00 AM If you order the rsm s/c you won't need anything else except guages/ wideband O2 sensor Classicrocjunkie 03-09-2005, 10:01 AM I could be out of line here, but i do recall reading somewhere that the RSM or vortec supercharger not sure who actually said this, but they require you to bring your car into their shop to be installed or your warrenty means jack shit. No if ands or butts about it. noshun 03-09-2005, 11:37 AM I could be out of line here, but i do recall reading somewhere that the RSM or vortec supercharger not sure who actually said this, but they require you to bring your car into their shop to be installed or your warrenty means jack shit. No if ands or butts about it. They have shops in the States that they let do the work! Otherwise it's a roadtrip to Ontario! Classicrocjunkie 03-09-2005, 11:49 AM Close enough. Either way you got to travel a long way. TunerAdept 03-09-2005, 12:09 PM id drive 2k miles for another 100hp :D. itll... help me break it in on the way home... yeah... noshun 03-09-2005, 12:12 PM id drive 2k miles for another 100hp :D. itll... help me break it in on the way home... yeah... My buddy is driving fomr Here in Ontario about 3 hours from the Border at michigan to Dayton Ohio to intense motorsports for some headwork and cams! He wants me to be his support car! It's about a 7 hour drive each way! if not more! -Jayson- 03-09-2005, 12:16 PM youll be driving right past me noshun. Im like 15 mins from ohio. noshun 03-09-2005, 12:18 PM youll be driving right past me noshun. Im like 15 mins from ohio. I don't fancy it really There's some drag day and if he sets some times he'll get a discount but I can't be bothered When I'm not getting anything out of it! they don't do ld-9 work! zx3dod 03-09-2005, 04:12 PM If you order the rsm s/c you won't need anything else except guages/ wideband O2 sensor I Know this is a stupid question, im full of them so best better let them out now then install something and waist a crap load of money. For the rsm s/c why would i not have to change the internals? noshun 03-09-2005, 10:42 PM I Know this is a stupid question, im full of them so best better let them out now then install something and waist a crap load of money. For the rsm s/c why would i not have to change the internals? No runs about 6-7 psi so you would just need to adjust which nozzle you pick up at the gas station! zx3dod 03-09-2005, 10:55 PM And what about the stage 2 witch runs at 10 psi, wouldnt i have to get new internals for that much boost? noshun 03-09-2005, 11:08 PM And what about the stage 2 witch runs at 10 psi, wouldnt i have to get new internals for that much boost? possibly! Gm Destroked the 2.2 to 2.0 for 12 psi but that was so it could run 87 octane gas! But reliably for 100,000 miles! so there's no reson why on say 93 octane it couldn't run 10 on stock internals but I'm sure RSM would be better to ask! zx3dod 03-10-2005, 12:16 AM possibly! Gm Destroked the 2.2 to 2.0 for 12 psi but that was so it could run 87 octane gas! But reliably for 100,000 miles! so there's no reson why on say 93 octane it couldn't run 10 on stock internals but I'm sure RSM would be better to ask! Well I run 93 Octane anyway, and with my cash income it would probually be oh.......9 months before i would have enough money for the stage two S/C for 4,900.00...and dont you HAVE to get rsm to install the S/C for you or else your screwed if something else goes worng on your car? DARKRAIN 03-10-2005, 07:51 AM that;s why you need to know a lot about this crap before you start doing mods. You do them yourself - you fix it yourself. that's the fun part though. Do you really want to tell someone that you didn't do the work on your car? -Jayson- 03-10-2005, 11:17 AM ill say i didnt do the work on my car. I have no shame in it. Im not a mechanic and none of my friends are. Like im really going to risk my car and supercharger so i can tell people i installed it. No. I dont mind doing smaller things like Intake, mounts, ShiftKits, and such. With 10 PSI you WILL need to replace the internals. i have seen a few ecotecs blow on jbody.org with less PSI than that. zx3dod 03-11-2005, 01:32 AM ill say i didnt do the work on my car. I have no shame in it. Im not a mechanic and none of my friends are. Like im really going to risk my car and supercharger so i can tell people i installed it. No. I dont mind doing smaller things like Intake, mounts, ShiftKits, and such. With 10 PSI you WILL need to replace the internals. i have seen a few ecotecs blow on jbody.org with less PSI than that. Thats what I was thinking with that much PSI there is no way the stock internals would hold up for long. What is the limit for the ammount of boost that the 2.2 ecotech can run? or should I just go with my orginal plan and stay on the safe side and upgrade my internals then get a s/c. And as far as doing my own installs, im with Jayson, im not willing to risk my car and the large amounts of money on that i spend on it, just to screw up installing something and loseing my car. I dont mind the things that i know for sure that i can do, but other then that if im not sure then i have to take it to a mechanic. -Jayson- 03-11-2005, 11:34 AM without internal upgrades i wouldnt go higher than 6 PSI. The ecotec is already a semi high compression engine at 10:1. I think some low compression pistons and forged rods would be good. zx3dod 03-14-2005, 10:51 PM Ok, I think I might be reading this worng (Looking through a friends Super Street magazine) But I just found this article and it's talking about a GM S/C for the 2.2L Ecotech....here is what im reading...bear with me, the begining is talking about the Colbalt SS. (maybe thats what the GM s/c is for??) "GM annouced the arrival of the Colbalt SS Supercharges during a press conference at the internationl Auto Salon. While this new model will prove to be a giant leap for GM, the manufacture also wantes to give something back to the hoards of cavalier and sunfire owers. In this sprit, GM Performace Parts will be offering some solid hardware for the J-Body. The Ecotec supercharged crate engise is the excact same one found in teh Saturn Red Line and Cobalt Supercharged. Yes, we said exact. Now you (or someone who knows what they're doing) can drop the same 205hp 2.0L Eaton M62 helical roots-type supercharged powerplant into your j-body. Just stroll up to the parts counter at any GM dealership and order part number 12499466. <hear is the part about the Ecotech s/c> If the crate moter is too rich for your blood, then you can order the Ecotec 2.2L Supercharger Kit for your Cavalier or Sunfire. GM estimates that this kit if good for 11 pounds of boost that will create 175 hp @ 5,600 rpm for a 25 percent increase over your stock 2.2L. The kit uses the same Eaton M62 blower found on the supercharged 2.0 and comes with all the necessary hardware. GM is even pushing for emissions certification, which should keep the po-po off your back for the time being." <End of info on S/C> It dosent list a part number for it or anything. I found this article in the July 2004 issue of Super Street. noshun 03-14-2005, 11:26 PM Ok, I think I might be reading this worng (Looking through a friends Super Street magazine) But I just found this article and it's talking about a GM S/C for the 2.2L Ecotech....here is what im reading...bear with me, the begining is talking about the Colbalt SS. (maybe thats what the GM s/c is for??) "GM annouced the arrival of the Colbalt SS Supercharges during a press conference at the internationl Auto Salon. While this new model will prove to be a giant leap for GM, the manufacture also wantes to give something back to the hoards of cavalier and sunfire owers. In this sprit, GM Performace Parts will be offering some solid hardware for the J-Body. The Ecotec supercharged crate engise is the excact same one found in teh Saturn Red Line and Cobalt Supercharged. Yes, we said exact. Now you (or someone who knows what they're doing) can drop the same 205hp 2.0L Eaton M62 helical roots-type supercharged powerplant into your j-body. Just stroll up to the parts counter at any GM dealership and order part number 12499466. <hear is the part about the Ecotech s/c> If the crate moter is too rich for your blood, then you can order the Ecotec 2.2L Supercharger Kit for your Cavalier or Sunfire. GM estimates that this kit if good for 11 pounds of boost that will create 175 hp @ 5,600 rpm for a 25 percent increase over your stock 2.2L. The kit uses the same Eaton M62 blower found on the supercharged 2.0 and comes with all the necessary hardware. GM is even pushing for emissions certification, which should keep the po-po off your back for the time being." <End of info on S/C> It dosent list a part number for it or anything. I found this article in the July 2004 issue of Super Street. 11psi! 1 less then the 2.0s/c!! Hmmmm. Would be interesting to get a hold of the details for that! It would surely have top be like at least 93 Octane on that kind of boost!!! Would out power the 2.0s/c by a little too! zx3dod 03-15-2005, 01:37 AM For 11 Pounds of bost it isent adding much power though, from 140 stock to only 175. The Stage One S/C on RSM's site is 8 pounds of bost and is giveing you 60 more hp, then you have the stage two s/c at 10 pounds of bost getting you 80. Any reason why the S/C listed in the atricle is giveing high psi but lower HP??? noshun 03-15-2005, 09:32 AM For 11 Pounds of bost it isent adding much power though, from 140 stock to only 175. The Stage One S/C on RSM's site is 8 pounds of bost and is giveing you 60 more hp, then you have the stage two s/c at 10 pounds of bost getting you 80. Any reason why the S/C listed in the atricle is giveing high psi but lower HP??? Something is wrong! Unless it's WHP! -Jayson- 03-15-2005, 12:28 PM For 11 Pounds of bost it isent adding much power though, from 140 stock to only 175. The Stage One S/C on RSM's site is 8 pounds of bost and is giveing you 60 more hp, then you have the stage two s/c at 10 pounds of bost getting you 80. Any reason why the S/C listed in the atricle is giveing high psi but lower HP??? because its GM, its not goint to run 11 lbs of boost, the stock internals on the 2.2L ecotec wont be able to support that much boost. I dont think their is anyone on jbody.org who is running that much boost on an ecotec. the most i have seen was 8, one guy blew a rod with 7. zx3dod 03-16-2005, 01:09 AM Something is wrong! Unless it's WHP! That could be, or maybe there was a misprint that didnt get caught when the article was publised. But I think thats highly unlikely. On a side note, nice sig Noshun. It looks good, is that your car in the sig??? TunerAdept 03-16-2005, 04:54 PM i just read an article about a 2.2 eco with a gm supercharger pulling 240hp at 12lbs of boost. conflicting... -Jayson- 03-16-2005, 08:00 PM the only thing anyone knows about the 2.2L GM supercharger is rumors. Nothing more DARKRAIN 03-17-2005, 07:23 AM i'm beginning to think no one knows anything about any 2.2 s/c because no ne has one. It's all pipe dreams....only you guys with the 2.4 have FI noshun 03-17-2005, 09:47 PM i'm beginning to think no one knows anything about any 2.2 s/c because no ne has one. It's all pipe dreams....only you guys with the 2.4 have FI don't have to have one to know about them! some people could have an s/c for years and not have a clue how it works! cmjrbking123 03-19-2005, 01:23 AM can you buy all the parts sepreatly for you car instead of buying the kit. does hi rev motorsports do that? vBulletin®, Copyright ©2009, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
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