Which domestic has the most tuning potential?

Ok, it's all out war, what domestic has the most potential to be the ultimate drag car?

im glad i drive a cavalier

I dont have a cav yet, but i will soon :alien:

i voted Cavy, its my second fav. car, next to the Corvette of crouse;)

Does anybody know the specs on all of the cars on the poll or a good place to find them?

HA

too bad none of those GM cars are being produced...

yeah i would go for the 220 sport, but it is a SEMA concept car and we all know that GM is the biggest wuss when it comes to making a car that people actually want... they are killing the camaro, firebird, no v-6's in anything that weighs less than 3000 pounds... the only car that they are going to have going for them is the corvette... i love GM but there is no way those cars are going to be made!

~mike

p.s. gotta love the entrance on the first post!

I really dont understand what happened to GM...i mean short of the 'vette they died...they killed the camaro and i wonder how long it'll be before somethin else goes

you guys DO know about the new 2.0L 810hp orange DRAG cavalier right?? well it beat lisa kubo and is now one of the fastest FWD drag cars. Keep in mind that engine is a production 2.2L Ecotec HEAVILY modded, dont worry i know what goes into creatign a drag engine, im not saying a stock 02' ecocav could run 9's. What i AM saying is that the new ecocav has much tunning potential.

What the hell is this? No RWD models? About the only two I could think of would be the Cav and the Neon. The only reason I say that is a V-6 motor could be dropped in. There's no replacement for displacement. Then again, I may be going out on a limb with the Neon. It's rumored that the Mopar R&D group dropped a 3.5 liter V-6 out of a Intrepid into a Neon back in 96. I don't know how true that is, but could you imagine a Neon with that big a motor? I wonder how fast that thing would go? It would be nice if it was true. Oh well.

Cavalier all the way baby!!

I'd go with the Cougar over any of those little cars.

Cavalier, sorry I think that car is ugly. Just too damn plain. Sunfire isn't as bad but not that great either. Saturn, Neon, blah. Focus.....Civic wannabe.

dont the cav, and the sunfire have pretty much the same tuning potential?

Why would you waste your time on any domestic small cars?

V8's are the only we got thats worth a damn and they are getting killed off.

a cav is the only way to go. To hell with all the imports and the rest of those shitty domestics on the list. The cavalier has more tuning potetial that any of those cars could even dream of having. The 2.2 drag car proves that.

I chose geo cuz those are pimp! I beat the shit outa my moms geo prizim when I was learing to drive, race, drift, and whatnot...it still runs great! Only repair needed was a bearing from nailing a curb at 50 (advoiding a jackass flying up on me)

Originally posted by 1320B4U
Why would you waste your time on any domestic small cars?

V8's are the only we got thats worth a damn and they are getting killed off.


Well, I waste my time with domestic small cars because I can buy one, mod it out to be a competitor against most v8's, and have enough cash left over to be able to still afford to pay my insurance every month.

Let's face it, the v8 sports cars kick ass, but they are just too damned expensive. Not only in initial costs but also in insurance. Hell my insurance company won't even insure anyone under 21 for Camaro's, Trans Am's, ect, ect....

Don't get me wrong though. When I graduate someday and have a real job and make real money, the first thing you will see in my driveway is a 2002 Trans Am WS6!!!

Well, I waste my time with domestic small cars because I can buy one, mod it out to be a competitor against most v8's, and have enough cash left over to be able to still afford to pay my insurance every month.


Really? What compact domestic is going to be able to run with a V-8. Your Cav surely cannot. Name ONE.

And the 2.2 drag car, its a purpose built straight line racer with an engine that costs more than a Cav.

Oh man the 2.2 drag car is a whole different animal. BTW my cavy is a six cyl. I dont' really like 4 cyl's. And TONS of people have already dropped the 3.1l turbo in their 6 cyl cavy's and are running around 250 HP on stock internals. One guy that I see on the boards has heavily built his motor and is running around 320 HP if I remember correctly. And you have to remember that these cavaliers weigh over 800 lb less than a z28, which is my benchmark v8 vehicle.
Don't get all pissed off. I'm just saying that since I can't afford a z28 I think the cavalier is a great domestic tuner car.

i would go with a buick grand national or regal t-type

Nothing like a mopar 360 to ruin anybodys day.

now if you put all that work into a real car, you'd have a bullet.
too bad it's still just a neon

all that work into a neon is a bullet.

cavalier has the most after market parts out of that group.

oh idk, neon's got alot, more i think.
but around here in indiana, a guy wouldn't be caught dead in a neon...girls car :gay:

:iagree: neons are for girls.

The SRT4 would hand all those car's its ass. stock for stock, any car that would drop a wrx, would hands down be the winner.

:twak:

hey, but the srt-4 is so much better than the other models of the neon that they can't even be considered the same car. i'll give it that much, but i'm still goin w/ my cavi over the srt-4. in the end cavi's come out ahead.

oh, and a thing that i read about the next generation neon...it's supposed to have the lancer's suspension and powertrain, and it's supposed to be redesigned to look kinda like the lancer too.

Originally posted by krebs128
hey, but the srt-4 is so much better than the other models of the neon that they can't even be considered the same car. i'll give it that much, but i'm still goin w/ my cavi over the srt-4. in the end cavi's come out ahead.

oh, and a thing that i read about the next generation neon...it's supposed to have the lancer's suspension and powertrain, and it's supposed to be redesigned to look kinda like the lancer too.

The new neon is a lot better than the old ones as far as looks, the new grill and headlights don't look as girly. how much hp does the srt-4 have?

2003 Neon

SE - 132 h/p, 130 lb/ft torque
SXT - 132 h/p, 130 lb/ft torque
R/T - 150 h/p, 135 lb/ft torque
SRT-4 - 215 h/p, 245 lb/ft torque

(see the noticable difference between the srt-4 and the other 3 models???)

"but i'm still goin w/ my cavi over the srt-4. in the end cavi's come out ahead."

How do you figure a GM econo/junk box comes out on top over a car designed to kill just about everything under 30K?

cause at the end of the day...win or lose....your still driving a Chevy:slap:

Originally posted by chevyfreak
cause at the end of the day...win or lose....your still driving a Chevy:slap: :worshippy thank you!!!!

this looks like this might turn into another flame war between cavi's and neons. http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/t63762.html

If you want to gloat about driving a chevy cav, go for it :lol:

alright sounds great! :iamwithst

ok guys, this one is actually pretty simple, i don't know about the cougar, but the one with the most tuning potential in that list is the focus, any guesses why?






because it's not f/i and all the others are.

"ok guys, this one is actually pretty simple, i don't know about the cougar, but the one with the most tuning potential in that list is the focus, any guesses why?

because it's not f/i and all the others are."

PLEASE TELL ME YOUR JOKING.

Originally posted by SolTheHoelessPimp
ok guys, this one is actually pretty simple, i don't know about the cougar, but the one with the most tuning potential in that list is the focus, any guesses why?






because it's not f/i and all the others are.
not really. car's with stock FI are much easier to mod for high hp than cars that aren't meant to be turbo. thier internals are already set up for boost. there are always exceptions though, but i'd rather modify an RS focus(turbo) than try to turbocharge an svt or zx3 and work from there.

if your looking at this from a prospective of most hp that can be gained, the non fi will win ,simple because it has the lowest starting point.

why not say those cars all suck...



pray for forgiveness for ever owning a domestic...



and go buy an import!!!



a 91+ 240sx would take every single one of those cars in a road race

wow, and what r u driving?...yea

It might be badged as a domestic, but with an engine that can handle twice the factory power output on stock internals, it's stouter than any domestic engine produced.

Sport Compact Car sure loves the SRT-4. That'd probably be my vote.

Originally posted by Yasunori
Sport Compact Car sure loves the SRT-4. That'd probably be my vote.

you know, u posted somewhere else about 'your fav cars' and referred to sport compact car, is that magazine your bible?

Originally posted by krebs128


you know, u posted somewhere else about 'your fav cars' and referred to sport compact car, is that magazine your bible?

I consider them fairly reputable. I don't have a subscription or anything, but I picked one up due to some recent articles of interest. There were some Cavalier builds in the last issue.

I know one car an SRT can't take probly...the new 350z...280hp if I remember correctly and even though it weighs quite a bit more...it's still fast and probly faster

Dodge Neon SRT-4: 215hp turbocharged 2.4L, DOHC 4 cylinder

Chevrolet Cavalier 220 Turbo Sport: 220hp turbocharged 2.2L ecotec, 4 cylinder (concept car)

Pontiac Sunfire H.O: 260hp supercharged 2.4L Twin Cam, 4 cylinder roots type supercharger (concept car)

Ford Focus SVT:170-180hp 2.0L Zetec I-4, 4 cylinder (DOHC w/ VCT variable intake cam timing)

Mercury Couger ZN: 170hp Duratec 2.5L 24 valve DOHC V-6
(concept car)

Saturn SC2 Turbo: 200hp 2.0L, DOHC 4 cylinder w/ a Eaton M62 Helical roots supercharger. (Concept design) Onlyy one i could find was a 2001 SC2: 124hp 1.9L L-4 DOHC, 4 cylinder

Chevrolet Cavalier Z-24 Sedan: 262hp supercharged 2.2L I-4, 4 cylinder Roots type supercharger w/ liquid-air charge cooling
(concept car)

Chevy Cavalier 263 SS: 262hp supercharged 2.2L I-4, 4 cylinder roots type supercharger w/ liquid-air intercooler (concept car)

Saturn SCX Concept: 300hp 1.9L DOHC 4 clyinder
(never produced)

Chevrolet Cavalier Z-24 Technic: 260hp supercharged 2.4L Twin Cam 16valve I-4, 4 cylinder roots type supercharger (Concept car)

that's prety much the D/L on these cars plus a few extra. If you have any questions....just ask.....

So basically, the only one availabe to purchase is the SRT4. And all the other ones are like saying Mitsu is coming out with a 4th gen Eclipse GSX pumping out 350hp stock:rolleyes: American "imports" are a joke. This segment has been around for what, 13+years, and the only good car they have ever came out with is the SRT4.

HANDS DOWN...chevy cavalier!!! you ever see that turbo 10 second 2.2 ecotec at NOPI last year?? :eek2:

HA

too bad none of those GM cars are being produced...

yeah i would go for the 220 sport, but it is a SEMA concept car and we all know that GM is the biggest wuss when it comes to making a car that people actually want... they are killing the camaro, firebird, no v-6's in anything that weighs less than 3000 pounds... the only car that they are going to have going for them is the corvette... i love GM but there is no way those cars are going to be made!

~mike

p.s. gotta love the entrance on the first post!

hey my cav has a v6 in a car way less than 3000lbs

actually people are saying srt4 is the best car and all that. all it has in it is a turbo and 4 windows, that only 2 are power. wow great car.

i think the 2.2 and 2.4 cavaliers have the MOST potential period....u ever see that 10 second 2.2L ecotec cav turbo at SEMA??

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actually people are saying srt4 is the best car and all that. all it has in it is a turbo and 4 windows, that only 2 are power. wow great car.
isn't it the same engine out of eclipses/laser/talon just tuned a little?

as far as specs go the srt-4 in 2004 is gonna be the nastiest stock car followed by focus the neon should have stock hp of about 225 thats good for a v-4

there are better cars than that stock, maybe not for the price. i'd take a 350z or s2000 over the neon and the svt focus is nice but it's nothing major. gimme an RS focus anyday over the srt or SVT. and what the hell's a v4? you mean an inline 4?

i v4 is the same thing as a inline four also the same thing as a fourbanger and i hate imports my boys got a mustang that could take a damn 350z and shit it out the tail pipe the rs focus has nothing on the srt-4 go look at the specs for the new 2004 one

a v and an inline are not the same thing. a v is v shaped and an inline isn't. ever wonder why a 4cylinder car has a header and v6's and 8's get headers? the only v4's i know of are turbo-diesel and they're more of a box shape.
and unless your friends car has some decent modifications it will not shit on a 350z. it may beat it, but it wouldn't kill it.

dog i got a video of a race we went to this weekend he was paired up with a 71 chevell hes got a 89 stang he took it off the line and smoked it hes got a 9 sec car it will shit on the 350z i know what im talking when it comes to cars because i love em i love taking other peoples cars and making them fast im hookin up my friends berreta hes got the 3.1 v6 its a fuckin beast now nick named the import hunter.

The Colbalt SS will tear it up :evillol:

i say the cavalier!! :iceslolan



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The Colbalt SS will tear it up :evillol:

tear up?! bull shit, the car's fucking gay-and the SS is not definate, and knowing chevy it prolly won't happen (i.e. cavi turbo 220)