Sup guys..Well I finally Finish Highschool last year and have enlisted in the Marine Corps. My staff sergant told me their is a good Chance I can be station in Okanawa Japan (sp?). Im really Hyped cause I signed up for a Full Time contract..4 years minimum.Im hoping to find my self a GT-R of a sort..kinda aiming for an R34.Even if I dont get stationed in Japan there is a good chance I can get stationed in germany witch also has good possabilities for a Skyline...Anyone been in this situaton before? What do you suggest I do?

-Johnny.

great for you, but you wont be able to bring the car back to the states with ya :D.

Il find teh way :) beleeeb me :)

First of all whats your MOS...? And Believe me... there is NO-WAY you can bring back an R34 any other way that is not legal ($$$)... my best friend is stationed in Okinawa in the Marine Corps and he has a heavily modified Rx7. He would like to bring it back... but that's not gonna happen. Be happy that you are gonna have a chance to hang out in a different country were there are cool cars for a bit... and it's not all about R34's (you may not even be able to afford one of these until after your 3rd or 4th year anyway)... think Four Door Sedan ER32's with RB20's or swapped RB25's and other cars not so easily recognized over on this side of the Pond. Have fun...

BTW: What is your MOS?

Your plan doesnt sound too solid... Why would you invest money into a car like that, when you are going to have to leave it in a few years anyways?

Doesnt make sense to me... I certainly wouldnt join the Armed Forces, just to be able to drive a car for 4 years... But thats just me.

-Wes

Not all the Marines even are allowed to own a car. I believe it is a general rule in Japan is that they have to be of a certain rank, age, marital status, or MOS.

You have to be on island for over a year in many cases. Besides, OKI cars are $$$$$$$$$$. You will be on deployment more than home, and until you make E-7 give up the hope of getting the credit rating. The cap on E-3 and below is generally 15k.

I already have 17k saved up for a line..and it isnt all about R34 lines..In 4 years Im hoping the Sean Morris may get the RI rights available for the R34.Im not one of those newbs that runs accross AF and claims hes gonna get a skyline..and the purpose for me joining the Armed forces has nothing remotely to do with veing able to own a Line or even drive one. Its for deeper reasons such as Medical benifits for my Father.and to get an education. My MOS is Electrician. I am a Huge fan of the R32 GTR aswell..and in four years from now Im hoping things change..If not then Il do my best to get it back to states. that done and said feed more information. :puts flame suit back on:

I dont think Sean has much to do with that dude :rolleyes:

Unless someone can figure out a way to write an entirely new electrical system for the Post-OBDII vehicles, we're all out of luck.

And seeming as it doesnt make sense for any company to pick up MotoRex's slack, and take a bigger risk investing even more money into crash testing and research... It will more than likely never happen.

The only company that I think would want to take on the responsibility, would be RB Motoring (www.rbmotoring.com) . I would much rather do business with them, as opposed to MotoRex.

Anyways, this problem is not as simple as it is on Hondas... There is no 'OBDI - OBDII' conversion harness for $150 that solves everything... It is much more complex.

Im just saying that the US is kind of screwed for the next few years in terms of Skyline availability... But 2014 is coming up... In only 9 more years we can start importing some real monster JDM vehicles :evillol:

-Wes

Im just saying that the US is kind of screwed for the next few years in terms of Skyline availability... But 2014 is coming up... In only 9 more years we can start importing some real monster JDM vehicles :evillol:

-Wes

mmmmmmmm MKII sw20's......mmmmm.....s13.......180sx......horray! only 8 years til i can get my 180 :D.

too bad if your in the marines and youre in okinawa YOU CANT DRIVE UNLESS YOU LIVE OFF BASE (AKA ARE MARRIED) :-)..... go air force bro...

too bad if your in the marines and youre in okinawa YOU CANT DRIVE UNLESS YOU LIVE OFF BASE (AKA ARE MARRIED) :-)..... go air force bro...
oh and did i mention I LIVE HERE.... so i'd know

I know you live in Japan.Im aware of that. Ive known of some cases where my friends had cars and wernt married. :p

But does anyone know how the situation with Hiro being a big fuggin moron is looking?

Im just saying that the US is kind of screwed for the next few years in terms of Skyline availability... But 2014 is coming up... In only 9 more years we can start importing some real monster JDM vehicles :evillol:

-Wes

What are the importing rules bout 25 year old cars?

Im guessing by Hiro you're meaning MotoRex... And I cant honestly call him a 'big fuggin moron' if I dont know him personally...

All I know is that his business is heading face first into a brick wall at high speed...

As for the 25 year rule... Its a law that states that any foreign car that is, or is over 25 years old, is eligable for importation without complication.

In other words, no legalization is neccesary...

So in 2014, we can start importing Godzilla, Fairlady Zed32, FD3S, FC3S, Silvia, 180sx... I for one am looking forward to it.

Problem is, trying to find a good enough condition car, that isnt going to rape you on price.

What I am planning on doing is this:

Wait for 1989 BNR32 to become eligable for importation. Get up with a few of my buddies contacts out there, and see what I have to pick from. Fly out to Japan, and hand pick my car.

Get work done to it before it gets shipped to the US (i.e maintenance, tune up, get any problems fixed).

Wait about 4-6weeks for it to hit the US docks... And drive off with her, paper work in hand.

Much simpler than trying to rush into it now... Having to pay legalization fees and such.

So if I can wait, save some bank, and get my Godzilla anyways... Why not?

-Wes

mmmmmmmm MKII sw20's......mmmmm.....s13.......180sx......horray! only 8 years til i can get my 180 :D.


You're alittle luckier. The car I want I can get five years later.

yeah i cant wait to get a BNR32! :iceslolan :iceslolan the Black one that is posted in the stickie in the General forum is very nice.. :cwm27:

Nice i knew that at some point that u could import without hassle but didn't know it was 25 years. In canada it is 15years isn't it thats the reason they are getting the R32s now.Hmm never really been a fan of the 32s looks but hey its Godzillia. **i like the 33 vspec.** Also once u had a R32 here couldn't you import a 34 motor and drop it in for more torque/hp. I know they are all rated for 276hp but come'on 3 gen or working on it they had more than that n the 34.

Nice i knew that at some point that u could import without hassle but didn't know it was 25 years. In canada it is 15years isn't it thats the reason they are getting the R32s now.Hmm never really been a fan of the 32s looks but hey its Godzillia. **i like the 33 vspec.** Also once u had a R32 here couldn't you import a 34 motor and drop it in for more torque/hp. I know they are all rated for 276hp but come'on 3 gen or working on it they had more than that n the 34.

i think the 3-4 only had a couple more pounds of torque, so really it wouldnt be worth it...not to mention expensive. 2-6's are quite pricey. but even still, it wouldnt be legal because youd have to convert the whole car to OBDII, which...is still restricted by the 25 year rule. and if i spend the cash to finally get an r32 in, i wouldnt do anything to risk it getting destroyed or taken away from me (read: id like everything to be legit since i waited so long for it).

Yea thats the primary reason that R34's cant be legalized anyways... Damn Level-II diagnostics :p

The BNR32's RB has PLENTY of 'get-up-and-go' to it. So the most that would happen is, I would send the engine out to be rebuilt to stock specification. Because the higher you go in Horse Power, the less and less your engine will last.

Anyways... My plan is to get White 1989 BNR32, in near mint condition. Will deffinately call a nice coin by this time... Close to $20,000 or so in good condition my guess would be. If that is accurate or not, Im not sure.

Leave the entire body stock... Go absolutely nuts on the suspension. Probably looking at about a $2,500 bill after that :D Not to mention I will be upgrading the braking system at the same time... So stack another grand or so on top.

Engine wise, internals will be stock... Much easier to maintain. Although I will have the head sent out to get slightly modified. Cams, cam gears, 3 angle valve job... Nothing serious.

Go slightly larger on the turbos, and keep them sequential. Upgraded radiator, upgraded ECU, Front Mount Intercooler, all hard piping, and a TIAL BOV looking right at ya' :evillol:

Transmission will be bullet proof, with a nice sports clutch and light weight flywheel.

Then to top this all off, 17" Black NISMO Racing wheels... About another $2,200 :rolleyes:

God its fun to dream... But I've got a while to wait... Nine more years, and Im getting giddy already :lol:

-Wes

too bad if your in the marines and youre in okinawa YOU CANT DRIVE UNLESS YOU LIVE OFF BASE (AKA ARE MARRIED) :-)..... go air force bro...

lol... :lol: Sorry my3rdskyline get off the pipe :p ......first of all, it has nothing to do with being married :grinno: . You need to be an E-4 or above. Very very very rarely, almost never.....will you see an E-3 driving. And it has nothing to do with living off base, on base etc. Your command just needs to find you "mature" and you need to be an E-4 or higher. Also the Marines promote alot faster then the chair force :eek: .......I mean Air Force. But along the same lines, an unmarried/unaccompanied Marine would only be on the Island Maximum of 2 years....with a small possiblity of being able to extend. So getting an R34 would be stupid. Wow, congratulations......now you have a kick ass car that you have to sell in like 2 years.....you might as well just set that $20,000 your gonna lose on fire.........or give it to me :rofl: I once knew a Sgt with a MONSTER R34 V-Spec in Mainland. He spent like $30,000(at least, I'm not sure exact $) on the car...........now I think he's stupid. Why?? Because a Married/Accompanied Marine can only have a MAX tour of 6 years. And again, guess what.........HE CAN'T IMPORT IT!! And there are not too many people out there willing to give him what he wants for it when he sells it. So some lucky guy will probably RAPE him for his car when he leaves for like 10 grand. :banghead: And just a side note to Braille-Head, Don't join the military for the "benifits"....you will hate life.............join because you want to serve and protect. :2cents: There.........I've said my peace...............and I know.........because I live in Japan........I know my3rd Skyline does too, but his info is a little off..............

GENERALLY speaking....If a Marine is married....he can get a lisence. Generally....they are more mature. Young Marines don't get to drive in Japan...GENERALLY. Generally.... M3S is correct.
oh and did i mention I LIVE HERE.... so i'd know
Oh and did I mention I LIVE HERE.... too. :D

GENERALLY speaking....If a Marine is married....he can get a lisence. Generally....they are more mature. Young Marines don't get to drive in Japan...GENERALLY. Generally.... M3S is correct.

Oh and did I mention I LIVE HERE.... too. :D


ummmmm...................no :grinno: I know 28 year old E-3's that ARE married and can't drive. I also know single 19 year old E-4's that have licenses and a car :iceslolan .........so in general.........age and marital status have NOTHING to do with it :p . And if the E-4 or above ever does anything to prove he shouldn't be allowed to drive in Japan.............He never will be driving out here again........for a long long time. I know an E-4 who's wife and two kids are out here with him.......she can drive.......but he CAN'T....because he proved himself unworthy to drive. :banghead: So he walks to work.

ummmmm...................no :grinno: I know 28 year old E-3's that ARE married and can't drive. I also know single 19 year old E-4's that have licenses and a car :iceslolan .........so in general.........age and marital status have NOTHING to do with it :p . And if the E-4 or above ever does anything to prove he shouldn't be allowed to drive in Japan.............He never will be driving out here again........for a long long time. I know an E-4 who's wife and two kids are out here with him.......she can drive.......but he CAN'T....because he proved himself unworthy to drive. :banghead: So he walks to work.
In GENERAL....E4 is kind of a dotted line. You will rarely see an E3 driving....E4s over a certain time in grade...E5s and above will be able to drive. HOWEVER.... I know that if ANYBODY screws up.....they are liable to be walking. I know an E6 who can't even ride his bike. (but he is Navy attached to a Marine unit....they just don't like him and when he screwed up they threw the book at him)

Dude this all sounds awfully complex... Its making my head hurt :lol:

I wont join the Armed Forces... Period. The day when Foreign Forces start unloading on US Soil, is the day I get out the Spaz 12Gauge, and go to town :evillol:

But until then... Im a Civilian.

And I seriously dont see a point in giving your life away for years on end... Just do you can drive a Skyline for those years. Like thats going to make anything better :rolleyes:

If I wanted a Skyline that bad, I would go live with my uncle in Montreal.

-Wes

so this guy is going to join the marines and make E-4 by the time he gets here and buy a skyline. yeah fucking right.

i'm just saying that it would be very unfair (and you have to agree with this)... to tell this kid that he's going to join the marines, come to okinawa and he can expect to just get a skyline and drive it with no problems....

especially if that's all he's joining for (which i'd hope it's not). Just giving you a heads up man. that's all.

Ok so the general consensus would be that You should not join the Armed Forces, in order to get stationed over seas, in an attempt to own a mystical Nissan Skyline for year or two

... Yea that sounds about right.

-Wes

Ok so the general consensus would be that You should not join the Armed Forces, in order to get stationed over seas, in an attempt to own a mystical Nissan Skyline for year or two

... Yea that sounds about right.

-Wes
That would be an affirmative there, soldier.

That would be an affirmative there, soldier.

I also agree.........screw the skyline......that wasn't the reason I joined (or stayed in) I love my job.........I really do. :iceslolan

Will 17,000 buy you a gold card???? Baby steps, Young man!!!!!!

Will 17,000 buy you a gold card???? Baby steps, Young man!!!!!!

Eh?

-Wes

Braille head,
I must agree with most of the comments said in the thread you got going..Ive been to Okinawa japan lived there for two years had me a Levin supercharger,R33 and now Im in Germany with my ER34GT-T...trying yo stay away from landing back in the US with a skyline R34 is almost close to impossible..if your in the military specially the Marine Corps you are definetily going back to either Le Junne or Pendelton...I have spoken directly to people at Motorex and the main issue is OBD II...if you dont have the 40g's to give up dont think about it..Im having my car GTT convert to a full race car in Bonn and taking it back to the US as a show/race car...$$$$$$ talks I think a Lance Corporal pay wont equate to an R34 shoot for something smaller ...start off modestly...

Braille head,
I must agree with most of the comments said in the thread you got going..Ive been to Okinawa japan lived there for two years had me a Levin supercharger,R33 and now Im in Germany with my ER34GT-T...trying yo stay away from landing back in the US with a skyline R34 is almost close to impossible..if your in the military specially the Marine Corps you are definetily going back to either Le Junne or Pendelton...I have spoken directly to people at Motorex and the main issue is OBD II...if you dont have the 40g's to give up dont think about it..Im having my car GTT convert to a full race car in Bonn and taking it back to the US as a show/race car...$$$$$$ talks I think a Lance Corporal pay wont equate to an R34 shoot for something smaller ...start off modestly...


theres a few flaws in your plan.

first off, right now it is impossible to bring a skyline into the US. mrex has gotten one car out in the last year, and they have 40 sitting in their yard. Hiro has several lawsuits against him, and even sean is saying that hes sure mrex will get shut down.

second....you cant bring a skyline into the US as a show car...period. never could, never will. and thats including if its a 400R or a Nismo Z-tuned (only 20 made).

third...you can bring a sky in as a race car. it is very very hard though. you are limited to driving 2500 miles a year, and can only have it in as a race car for a certain period of time. also - you need to have a complete race schedule of the events its entered in. dont have one, throw the idea out the window. if you do have a complete list, the car may race all the scheduled events. if you want to add anything, you need to run those by NHSTA and USDOT. after your last race, the car has to be out of the country within 6 months.

OR...you can win the lottery, and build a Skyline from scrap shit. Hey, if you got the money, its possible.

... Ummmm... Not sure what to think of that post... Whatever.

-Wes

I didn't motorex was getting sued what for? Is nebody going to pick up the ball? if they go down then surley all the info to legalize would be released.

I didn't motorex was getting sued what for? Is nebody going to pick up the ball? if they go down then surley all the info to legalize would be released.


they have several class action lawsuits against them from the owners of the 40 cars that are in the yard. the cars simply arent being worked on, and mrex isnt living up to their end of the legalization/money process. last i hear, the reason they arent legalizing em is something about hiro blowing all the money. not sure on that one, just a rumor i read so dont hold it to me.

and no the information wouldnt be released. its proprietary information, that mrex bought for a hefty sum.

RB Motoring is trying to get the right to the information from Motorex. They've got Sean, one of the main guys that got the Skyline able to be imported in the first place when he was working for Motorex. He has the knowledge/info, but not the right to use it. I've even seen a post from him recently that they even have an OBDII system running on a R33 now.

Hopefully they get the rights to the information and can get the ball rolling again.

If anyone is going to take the handoff for the touchdown, I'd saying RBM will do it.

I would hope so too, I like those guys over there... Seem to run a better business than MotoRex.

-Wes

RB runs a great business. plus, RB's main focus is trying to get the skyline now. weve all seen the amazing job theyve done on the evo's and 350's weve seen running around. Sean has also started to clue people in on what is needed for legalization. i was reading up on it on fresh alloy. the things i can think of off the top of my head are evap canisters from a 300zx, new cat, cross members for the driver side door, installing a 5 mph bumper reinforcement bar, and replacing all glass to US saftey spec glass.



EDIT: hes also offered to sell the information to legalizing the cars for 40 grand.