Does anyone know where to find performance engines on the net for a 2000 Cav z24?? Let me know

Does anyone know where to find performance engines on the net for a 2000 Cav z24?? Let me know


You want ready built 2.4? Do you want Forced induction or N/A?

Try www.mantapart.com
or
www.rsmracing.com

They should lead you in the right direction!

thanks

more options.... check out jasper racing they will take any one of the cav's motors and change internals, basically do whatever you want with it. best bet is to take a 2.2 ecotec to jasper racing and they'll give it some serious power

hell but a v6 in er :evillol:

hell but a v6 in er :evillol:

Personally I feel anything larger than the $-cyl should be avoided, although it's cool they way I am I know I would be pissed after I did it and caught a shiot load of understeer from the even more heavy nose trying to push wide with the addition of the fwd push! not to mention further upsetting the weight balance of the car. But I'm from europe where the beny circuit rules and not the perfectly straight florr it and hope for the best 1/4 mile strip. Although I will get 1/4 times this will be just so I can validate any performance upgrades! I'm a circuit Guy! Not oval track though unless it's Nardo!! BooYah no need to steer at 100mph the banking steers for you!

hell but a v6 in er :evillol:

where can I get info on that sixer? should I go junkyarding for one?

where can I get info on that sixer? should I go junkyarding for one?
Any six will be a fair job to install but yeah if you can get one from a junkyard and want to fab mounts for it!

3800 series v6 out of a buick regal its eithe r factory supercharged or not depending on the ones you get
all i now of is reative autosports in truro n.s. but i dont know where ur form so... yeah get a junkyard

3800 series v6 out of a buick regal its eithe r factory supercharged or not depending on the ones you get
all i now of is reative autosports in truro n.s. but i dont know where ur form so... yeah get a junkyard
grand prix GTP motor is the same 3800 s/c

I'd go for the 2.2L ecotec, throw a turbo on that and srt-4's are toast. Thats a phonomenal engine. Chevy did a new cobalt with a 2.2 ecotec, not the 2.0L. slapped on a turbo, kept 65% of the engine stock, upgraded the cams and cam gears mainly, and it has 535 bhp

I'd go for the 2.2L ecotec, throw a turbo on that and srt-4's are toast. Thats a phonomenal engine. Chevy did a new cobalt with a 2.2 ecotec, not the 2.0L. slapped on a turbo, kept 65% of the engine stock, upgraded the cams and cam gears mainly, and it has 535 bhp

I heard the 2.4 gets a lot of shit... but I don't exactly know why. Anyone care to clear this up for me?

*totally unrelated* but i added ur msn hopless4life

*totally unrelated* but i added ur msn hopless4life

Randomness is good. >.> it's what makes me go out and spend money on my car on impulse.

2.2l ecotec is by far the best 4 banger to mess with. there is a dragster running 6's with a 2000hp 2.2l ecotec in it! 2000 f*cking hp! granted you cant use that on the street, but the point here is that motor has the most potetial, besides, if he was to put in a v6, his power-to-weight ratio will be all f*cked up. thing MIGHT be quick in a straight line, but how fun is that, the car wouldnt handle worth a shit.

2.2l ecotec is by far the best 4 banger to mess with. there is a dragster running 6's with a 2000hp 2.2l ecotec in it! 2000 f*cking hp! granted you cant use that on the street, but the point here is that motor has the most potetial, besides, if he was to put in a v6, his power-to-weight ratio will be all f*cked up. thing MIGHT be quick in a straight line, but how fun is that, the car wouldnt handle worth a shit.


you noob. . .be quiet and stop talking BS. The ecotec is not the best engine, ive seen more blown ecotecs on jbody.org than LD9's. Ive seen them blow with only 6 PSI of boost and properly tunned. If the 2.2L ecotec engine is so great, how come GM has to destroke it to a 2.0L to put a supercharger on it? Yeah the engine the Cobalt SS uses is the same engine as the 2.2L ecotec in cavaliers, its just destroked. Seems like GM would have been smart to keep it at its normal stroke and just supercharger it, i mean that would have made more power. Unless they had a problem with reliability? Ohhh i know why, maybe its because the ecotec engine has a 10:1 compression ratio, high compression ratios are great for boost! Maybe its the aluminum head that works so great for boost. . .

As for the GM race car, gimmie a break, that engine has nothing in common with your engine besides its name. If i had the knowledge and money of GM i could make my car a 6 second 1320. As for the 65% stock ecotec making 535HP, what parts are stock? How do they define a stock engine as a percentage? Is it done by weight?

The ecotec has proven itself in the hands of GM very well, but not many people here have degrees in automotive engineering, billions of dollars at their disposal, and massive amounts of technology and man power. The ecotec really hasnt proven itself in the hands of the common person. It hasnt been out long enough to fully know if its reliability. No one on this web forum has an ecotec in the 14's. In like the last 6 months, ive seen about 4 ecotecs get blown up on jbody.org, not a single LD9, and all those engines are going to have alot more miles on them. . .

If you want a cool engine, put the 3800 S/C in it. Otherwise save your money and buy a better car.

noob???? riiiight. as far as that 6 second ecotec- that motor has soo much shit done to it internally to handle all that power. and if you are so smart, then tell me again that im wrong about how a v6 would make his car handle bad

noob???? riiiight. as far as that 6 second ecotec- that motor has soo much shit done to it internally to handle all that power. and if you are so smart, then tell me again that im wrong about how a v6 would make his car handle bad

I covered the weight issue of the V6 and it would cause unrivalled understeer! My Z24 I feel has very little understeer unless I slam the gas give it a quick flick on the wheel and lift off the gas for some lift-off oversteer! So much fun. The extra weight of the V6 wouold make it run crap unless you plan to just go staight although the Torque steer would be horendous and just keeping it straight sans LSD would be hard work. On the EcoTec issue Gm took stock EcoTecs and at 283 blew all 4 rods simultaneously and this doesn't account for long term effect as was under lab conditions. Sure there are EcoTec BLOCKS that have been made to run loads of power with many parts switched out.

Here's something. If you changed everything on your engine so it was just the block and then after 6 months cahnged the block which is just a component of the engine puttuin all off the other stuff onto the new one. At what point does it stop being the same engine?!?!?!?!

noob???? riiiight. as far as that 6 second ecotec- that motor has soo much shit done to it internally to handle all that power. and if you are so smart, then tell me again that im wrong about how a v6 would make his car handle bad

god your an idiot. I never said anything about the handling of a V6 in a cavalier. STFU idiot.

I see its not just me that getting really pissed off with that guy.... where's our mod when we need one?...

I see its not just me that getting really pissed off with that guy.... where's our mod when we need one?...

Tijuana?

correct me if im wrong, whenever i flip out on someone who talks shit i get bitched at worse.... but you can all dish it out just fine. i know what the fuck im talking about, and you dont need to call me a friggin idiot. i think yall need to chill

im done in this thread to avoid further dumbass remarks

cause you dont know what your talking about. "2.2l ecotec is by far the best 4 banger to mess with" gimmie a break man, u dont know what ur talking about.

65% of the engine internals are kept stock, they upgraded the cam, cam gears, and some other things. C-mon now pay attention 65% of the engine INTERNALS were kept stock.

i will give you a 1,000 dollars if you can keep 65% of your engine stock and get a 2.2L to 535HP thats reliable, meaning more than 20,000 miles without a single problem related to drive train or engine or any other component that deals with the engine. And the car must be driven by someone who built the car to race it. That means no grandma driving.

you can't drive a car like a race car driver was to drive it, race car drivers rebuild their engines after every race. Take drag racing motors for example, They do a few runs of a quarter mile and then have to be rebuilt. If you don't enjoy working on cars and increasing horsepower with what you got, then go f#*% urself, i'm just saying, you look at the original 2.2L in the newer body style cavs and sunfires, the 2200, the 2.3L and the 2.4L, the ecotec far exceeds those engines in reliability. I've blown 2 2.2L, The 2.3L quad 4 was a shit engine, everyone knows that, I know 2 guys that blew the 2200 and too many to count blew the 2.4L, the prime example is a customer Matt who is on his 5th yes 5th 2.4L, and the car has 70,000 on it WTF, yes i agree maybe the ecotec isn't the civic v-tec engines but hey what better engine do we have to work with?

you can't drive a car like a race car driver was to drive it, race car drivers rebuild their engines after every race. Take drag racing motors for example, They do a few runs of a quarter mile and then have to be rebuilt. If you don't enjoy working on cars and increasing horsepower with what you got, then go f#*% urself, i'm just saying, you look at the original 2.2L in the newer body style cavs and sunfires, the 2200, the 2.3L and the 2.4L, the ecotec far exceeds those engines in reliability. I've blown 2 2.2L, The 2.3L quad 4 was a shit engine, everyone knows that, I know 2 guys that blew the 2200 and too many to count blew the 2.4L, the prime example is a customer Matt who is on his 5th yes 5th 2.4L, and the car has 70,000 on it WTF, yes i agree maybe the ecotec isn't the civic v-tec engines but hey what better engine do we have to work with?

How has he blown 5 2.4s? I've got f*ck load of mles on mine and runs excellent. It doesn't use any fluids and is still good on Gas!!! That's crazy! He doesn't just rag the shit out of it does he?

you can't drive a car like a race car driver was to drive it, race car drivers rebuild their engines after every race. Take drag racing motors for example, They do a few runs of a quarter mile and then have to be rebuilt. If you don't enjoy working on cars and increasing horsepower with what you got, then go f#*% urself, i'm just saying, you look at the original 2.2L in the newer body style cavs and sunfires, the 2200, the 2.3L and the 2.4L, the ecotec far exceeds those engines in reliability. I've blown 2 2.2L, The 2.3L quad 4 was a shit engine, everyone knows that, I know 2 guys that blew the 2200 and too many to count blew the 2.4L, the prime example is a customer Matt who is on his 5th yes 5th 2.4L, and the car has 70,000 on it WTF, yes i agree maybe the ecotec isn't the civic v-tec engines but hey what better engine do we have to work with?

yeah if he has blow 5 of those, hes just a moron. I mean common, i can understand 1 from bad tunning, but you think after the 1st one you would learn something. hes prolly the kid who kept putting his hand on the hot stove cause he never figured it out.

As for this comment
"If you don't enjoy working on cars and increasing horsepower with what you got, then go f#*% urself," Watch your mouth in here, no one likes a little cry baby kid who thinks that swearing at people makes them a "Big man" or "Cool" . Grow up.

A betteer engine is the LD9, lower compression, more HP, Cast Iron, responds extremly well to boost, very reliable.

Hey Jayson- i may sound like a temporary noob for saying this but, is the LD9 the 2.4l engine our Z24s have? if so, our engines kick ass...

and another thing, how in the hell do u blow 5 of those engines with 70,000 miles on it? shit i race mine all the time and it still purrs like a lion... doesnt eat ANY oil between changes, and it runs great...

V6=tork right now, lots of bottom end fun good mid range to. Can also pull a train. likes lots of fuel to .

Gas= Not off idle like a V6 but can come on fast. Maybe to fast for coming out of tight turns.. Maybe course overstearing/power drift. (Not always a bad thing).

4 banger turbo big mid range boost some top end too. STILL turbo lag unless you add just a little gas to cover it up. Things get a little tight and hot under the hood.

Belt driven force draft induction. Never did one?

for a noob you seem to know alot... or make it look like it

V6=tork right now, lots of bottom end fun good mid range to. Can also pull a train. likes lots of fuel to .

Gas= Not off idle like a V6 but can come on fast. Maybe to fast for coming out of tight turns.. Maybe course overstearing/power drift. (Not always a bad thing).

4 banger turbo big mid range boost some top end too. STILL turbo lag unless you add just a little gas to cover it up. Things get a little tight and hot under the hood.

Belt driven force draft induction. Never did one?


Too much power will not cause oversteer in a FWD car. RWD yes but not all the time FWD definitely not! to get a FWD to oversteer is easy enough if you know what you're doing but the V6's extra weight and power in a fwd car would cause massive understeer meaning the FRONT end of the car will push wide. You can get to oversteer from this point a few ways! Maybe you could tell me how?! I've posted how before!

for a noob you seem to know alot... or make it look like it


that to me or the newbie above ure post?

yeah if he has blow 5 of those, hes just a moron. I mean common, i can understand 1 from bad tunning, but you think after the 1st one you would learn something. hes prolly the kid who kept putting his hand on the hot stove cause he never figured it out.

As for this comment
"If you don't enjoy working on cars and increasing horsepower with what you got, then go f#*% urself," Watch your mouth in here, no one likes a little cry baby kid who thinks that swearing at people makes them a "Big man" or "Cool" . Grow up.

A betteer engine is the LD9, lower compression, more HP, Cast Iron, responds extremly well to boost, very reliable.


LD9 is a better engine ha, those things are so damn unreliable it makes me wanna vomit. If they're so reliable, then they wouldn't have the cranks dropping outta them when you rev them. Plus listen call me what you will, but where I live there is few higher end cars, all we got is j-bodies, I work for an automotive stereo, performance and accessories shop. I've seen which engines can stand a good goring. Yes the LD9 is fast as snot and if i was to race a j-body thats the one i'd use, but they don't survive the test of time. And no we don't have many done up ecotecs, only because of warranty issues, you know boost+warranty=screwed if somethin happens. I just think the amount of horsepower you can get out of an ecotec is fairly impressive thats all. And yes I was out of line for telling you to go eff urself, I apologize, but anyone who knows installers, knows we are a breed of our own. :screwy:

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Too much power will not cause oversteer in a FWD car.
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Yes, your right there. Don't know what I was thinking. But I still deal a lot with RWD. Old flash back sorry.

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but the V6's extra weight and power in a fwd car would cause massive understeer meaning the FRONT end of the car will push wide.
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Yea,To much power from any motor will make a FWD push, right. The heavier V can compound this action. All or most of the blowing from the extra pounds can be over come by setting up the car for the engine. With in some reason. Plowing do to much power. First you never have TO much power. What happen is someone get out of there 95 HP whatever. Then gets into a V6 with 200 plus stuff. Soon they are coming hard out of a tight turn. Punch the pedal like they did before BUT FOR SOME REASON the front end just jump off the road raping it self around a light pole. It just CAN NOT be the driver fault. It must be the car. Bad car bad. Ever car drives different, ever one of them.

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Maybe you could tell me how?! I've posted how before!
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First answer me this. Who died and left you God of this forum?

I'll take a Classic double with fries.. no mayo or pickel.. mmm

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Too much power will not cause oversteer in a FWD car.
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Yes, your right there. Don't know what I was thinking. But I still deal a lot with RWD. Old flash back sorry.

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but the V6's extra weight and power in a fwd car would cause massive understeer meaning the FRONT end of the car will push wide.
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Yea,To much power from any motor will make a FWD push, right. The heavier V can compound this action. All or most of the blowing from the extra pounds can be over come by setting up the car for the engine. With in some reason. Plowing do to much power. First you never have TO much power. What happen is someone get out of there 95 HP whatever. Then gets into a V6 with 200 plus stuff. Soon they are coming hard out of a tight turn. Punch the pedal like they did before BUT FOR SOME REASON the front end just jump off the road raping it self around a light pole. It just CAN NOT be the driver fault. It must be the car. Bad car bad. Ever car drives different, ever one of them.

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Maybe you could tell me how?! I've posted how before!
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First answer me this. Who died and left you God of this forum?


Nothing I said would lead anyone to believe I thought I was god! All Iwas doing was correcting something that you had put. Without an LSD and full suspension set-up. An FWD car will not oversteer just under power. that is what I was saying! I was merely testing to see if you were someone who knew what they were talking about or one of the many people I come accross, some here some other forums who act like they know but what they write doesn't ring true. To be hionest that last line was a bit out of line! I'm not quite sure why I wrote that! I'm not into riling anybody up! If you made a mistake by putting something you didn't mean then ok. But it still needed to posted as a mtter of iformation for the people out there that don't know! The other things I meant to put but for some reason didn't was that nearly all cars nowadays, bar supercars and some sports cars have chassis tuned for understeer which is safer and easir to control than oversteer which takes some skill!

I'll take a Classic double with fries.. no mayo or pickel.. mmm

I'll have the Bacon double with everything..... Fries.... down with onion rings..... >.>. and a coke. or pepsi.... pepsi's better...

ninja vanish!

that to me or the newbie above ure post?
newbie above none directed to you

I was merely testing to see if you were someone who knew what they were talking about or one of the many people I come accross

LMAO

^^^^ Ditto... lol.. i have an idea to have some fun with people on here and test if they know their stuff. We should bring back that post which someone started asking questions. One would answer and create a new one.. good old fun.. man that was a looong time ago

i was laughing cause thats what people usually say when they get proven wrong or make a mistake, so they say that to try and cover it up and save face.

i was laughing cause thats what people usually say when they get proven wrong or make a mistake, so they say that to try and cover it up and save face.

I wasn't wrong tho!!!!!!!!!!

you can build a nice,strong and steetable 2.4 for a few grand. thats what im doin for my 98 z24.-bore it out,use lighter internals,some good head work (maybe 2.3 h.o.head),remove the balance shafts and some good camsand your over 250 hp,add some spray and your pushing over 300+ h.p. or more. backed w/a good getrag and 2-stage clutch and you could get low 14's/high 13's in a n/a car and still be able to take long road trips reliably.... thats just my 2-cents anyway...

LD9 is a better engine ha, those things are so damn unreliable it makes me wanna vomit. If they're so reliable, then they wouldn't have the cranks dropping outta them when you rev them. Plus listen call me what you will, but where I live there is few higher end cars, all we got is j-bodies, I work for an automotive stereo, performance and accessories shop. I've seen which engines can stand a good goring. Yes the LD9 is fast as snot and if i was to race a j-body thats the one i'd use, but they don't survive the test of time. And no we don't have many done up ecotecs, only because of warranty issues, you know boost+warranty=screwed if somethin happens. I just think the amount of horsepower you can get out of an ecotec is fairly impressive thats all. And yes I was out of line for telling you to go eff urself, I apologize, but anyone who knows installers, knows we are a breed of our own. :screwy:
i think my 2.4 has been the most reliable engine i have ever owned,just turned 212,000 miles (u.s.), i drive the car everyday,race it on weekends(in season) and i give this bitch hell.never burns oil,doesnt smoke and i feel i would have no problem getting in it right now and driving 15 hours to florida w/no problems. im only building another because i want to have the fastest j-body where i live.!!!but i guess everyone has there own problems (or none) with any engine... just like everyone has there own opinion and also ill have a shake and some fries too!!!

you can build a nice,strong and steetable 2.4 for a few grand. thats what im doin for my 98 z24.-bore it out,use lighter internals,some good head work (maybe 2.3 h.o.head),remove the balance shafts and some good camsand your over 250 hp,add some spray and your pushing over 300+ h.p. or more. backed w/a good getrag and 2-stage clutch and you could get low 14's/high 13's in a n/a car and still be able to take long road trips reliably.... thats just my 2-cents anyway...

You know I agree with that having looked into it all myself!