We just got this vehicle ( 92 Caravan 3.3L auto) and I am going over it to make sure it is as safe as I can get it.

One of the things I am worried about is the fact that while driving if you press the brake pedal quickly as soon as the pedal starts to depress the brake and antilock lights flash and as the pedal depresses on down they go away and you can feel a shudder type feeling in the brake pedal that I assume is the antilock working.

If you press the brake pedal slowly the lights do not come on. The brakes work fine this way also.

I have checked the fluid level and looked at the pads and shoes and things look ok for a used vehicle with normal wear and tear. No leaks in the brake system.

Any thoughts?

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We just got this vehicle ( 92 Caravan 3.3L auto) and I am going over it to make sure it is as safe as I can get it.

One of the things I am worried about is the fact that while driving if you press the brake pedal quickly as soon as the pedal starts to depress the brake and antilock lights flash and as the pedal depresses on down they go away and you can feel a shudder type feeling in the brake pedal that I assume is the antilock working.

If you press the brake pedal slowly the lights do not come on. The brakes work fine this way also.

I have checked the fluid level and looked at the pads and shoes and things look ok for a used vehicle with normal wear and tear. No leaks in the brake system.

Any thoughts?
according to what I have read if your ABS light comes on.. followed by your brake light then coming on... this is to tell you there is a problem in the ABS and that there has been a error code recorded that must be retrived to determine the problem to be corrected ...take it to someone who can retrieve the code and you will know the source of your problem..good luck

according to what I have read if your ABS light comes on.. followed by your brake light then coming on... this is to tell you there is a problem in the ABS and that there has been a error code recorded that must be retrived to determine the problem to be corrected ...take it to someone who can retrieve the code and you will know the source of your problem..good luck
well actually the book says ..If the ABS light comes on and is followed by the" brake light coming on and remaining on, means that there is an ABS problem and the code has been recorded and needs to be retrieved to determine the problem... the way I read your post you brake light isnt staying on ....so I am not sure if this will be your solution or not...

well actually the book says ..If the ABS light comes on and is followed by the" brake light coming on and remaining on, means that there is an ABS problem and the code has been recorded and needs to be retrieved to determine the problem... the way I read your post you brake light isnt staying on ....so I am not sure if this will be your solution or not...


I could understand it if the lights stayed on, but they just quickly flash if you press on the pedal quickly, and do not show at all if you press slowly. Go figure. The brakes work fine including the ABS as far as I can tell

Thanks for the post though

If your caravan has a unitized master cylinder/ anti-lock brake controller, there's not much short of spending $1000 at the dealership to get a new one. In 91 and 92's equipped with this system, they have had massive problems.

What happens it that the master cylinder begins to leak past the seals, indicating poor brake pressure to the ABS system which activates the ABS light, and alot of time the ABS pump on every hard braking situation.

Our local Dodge dealer was replacing/rebuilding these units up to 100,000 miles and 5 years old at no charge.

With any other normal vehicle you could simply replace the master cylinder. This one you need to replace the assembly. Unfortunately there's not many 92 caravans worth $1000 in ABS repair.

If your caravan has a unitized master cylinder/ anti-lock brake controller, there's not much short of spending $1000 at the dealership to get a new one. In 91 and 92's equipped with this system, they have had massive problems.

What happens it that the master cylinder begins to leak past the seals, indicating poor brake pressure to the ABS system which activates the ABS light, and alot of time the ABS pump on every hard braking situation.

Our local Dodge dealer was replacing/rebuilding these units up to 100,000 miles and 5 years old at no charge.

With any other normal vehicle you could simply replace the master cylinder. This one you need to replace the assembly. Unfortunately there's not many 92 caravans worth $1000 in ABS repair.

Is this a dealer only item or could I get it cheaper at an automotive store such as Autozone? $1000 is about what we payed for the vehicle itself!

$19 at autozone:

http://www.autozone.com/servlet/UiBroker?UseCase=C001&UserAction=performMoreDetail&Parameters=TRUE%7C%7EMASTER+CYLINDER+%28BRAKE+SYST EM%29%7C%7E%2412.00%7C%7EFENCO_REMAN%7C%7ENONE%7C% 7EFALSE%7C%7EFALSE%7C%7E2097%7C%7E1627%7C%7EM1983% 7C%7E-+INSTALLER+WARNING+-+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++%0AUNIT+MUST+BE+B ENCH+BLED.+IF+YOU+EXPERIENCE++++++++++++%0AANY+INS TALLATION+PROBLEMS%2C+CALL+TOLL+FREE%3A+++++++++++ +%0A+USA+1-866-787-5132+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++%0A+CAN+1-800-293-0760%7C%7E%2419.99%7C%7EDODGE+TRUCK%7C%7ECARAVAN+2 WD%7C%7E1992%7C%7ELLT%7C%7E2.15%7C%7EEA%7C%7EB

Here it is a year later, and the dealership finally got the unitized electric abs/mastercylinder unit in and got it put in under recall warranty. They were very nice about it, I no longer have the lights comming on, and wow the brakes work so much better!

Other than taking so long to get the part, (a little over a year) I have to say thank you to Dodge for putting a part on the vehicle that is worth almost what the vehicle is worth, at no cost to me !!!

Here it is a year later, and the dealership finally got the unitized electric abs/mastercylinder unit in and got it put in under recall warranty. They were very nice about it, I no longer have the lights comming on, and wow the brakes work so much better!

Other than taking so long to get the part, (a little over a year) I have to say thank you to Dodge for putting a part on the vehicle that is worth almost what the vehicle is worth, at no cost to me !!!


I sent you a PM...I would like to know what the Recall number is for this problem. Thx-Stevo

Stevo, I sent you an IM with the info, good luck for your friend.

I have the same deal with this 92 T&C I got from a guy also for 1000 bucks, the van is in real good shape other than the ABS and break light deal, only on mine the ABS lights stay on all the time, and the red break light only comes on when stopped and depressing the break peddle, it doesn't come on when driving and using the breaks.

I also went to the local Dealer, and they are also ordering the parts and will also fix it FREE, even though the van has over 147K milage. The guy at the service desk said that chrysler has the recall on these for LIFE of the vechicle, and it doesn't sem to matter if your the 1st owner or the 5th. Pretty cool of Chrysler to do that. My parts were orderd a couple weeks ago, I hope i don't have to wait a year though haha.

My brakes worked fine for about 70 miles and now the pedal is going all of the way to the floor now and when you first turn the vehicle on you hear the pump run forever before it stops. Also the ABS light is back on. I called the Dodge dealer and they said to bring it back monday and they will take a look at it again (sigh)

damn. maybe the guy that worked on it didn't do a good job, or the parts they used were also defective, man... well I guess this kind of thing can happen. All I want it to get mine fixed and see myself.

I like this old 92 T&C its nice other than these break deals.

I had a 88 caravan new from 88 to a couple weeks ago when it got stole and messed up the trans, I got it back and took it to the junk yard, got 125 for it :) so I figure i only gave 875 for this 92 T&C, for that I can wait for the parts, if its not any better I can always get 800 :)

BTW waltham did you have a problem with your rear break lights staying on when you had this problem? My van also seems to want to keep the rear break lights on when I stop and turn off the van, I have to re depress the peddle again to get them to turn off, I'm wondering if this is caused by this ABS deal too, maybe due to some preassure in the line, I don just thinkin. One guy on another site said there was a switch behind the break arm, but i haven't seen it. Just wonder if you had the same kind of problem.

damn. maybe the guy that worked on it didn't do a good job, or the parts they used were also defective, man... well I guess this kind of thing can happen. All I want it to get mine fixed and see myself.

I like this old 92 T&C its nice other than these break deals.

I had a 88 caravan new from 88 to a couple weeks ago when it got stole and messed up the trans, I got it back and took it to the junk yard, got 125 for it :) so I figure i only gave 875 for this 92 T&C, for that I can wait for the parts, if its not any better I can always get 800 :)

Im hoping that it is a simple thing like a bad wire connection or air in the lines, but worse case I suppose that I will have to wait another year for another pump (sigh)

BTW waltham did you have a problem with your rear break lights staying on when you had this problem? My van also seems to want to keep the rear break lights on when I stop and turn off the van, I have to re depress the peddle again to get them to turn off, I'm wondering if this is caused by this ABS deal too, maybe due to some preassure in the line, I don just thinkin. One guy on another site said there was a switch behind the break arm, but i haven't seen it. Just wonder if you had the same kind of problem.

Sorry, I didnt have that problem. It does sound like a switch somethere out of adjustment though. I hope you find it. Have you looked in a Chiltons or Haynes book to see where the switch is?

OK, well I checked with parts today, they said the items will be in the 28th so it won't be a year for me :)

BTW walt, could you post the problem they found after you went back to have it looked at after they did the repairs. I'd like to know myself just to be on the alert.

OK, well I checked with parts today, they said the items will be in the 28th so it won't be a year for me :)

BTW walt, could you post the problem they found after you went back to have it looked at after they did the repairs. I'd like to know myself just to be on the alert.

They said that the Cab module either put out or sensed a low voltage reading (dont remember which) and the ABS light came on and i did not have ABS for a bit. It seems to have went away for the time being, so since it only affects the ABS and not the main braking system , I am going to keep an eye on it and keep driving the vehicle

Take it to the dealer to get the abs codes read.Chrysler does not give out abs info,I believe 1997 and down.An aftermarket scan tool will not read the codes and the only scan tool that will read the codes is Chrysler's factory scan tool DRB III

Take it to the dealer to get the abs codes read.Chrysler does not give out abs info,I believe 1997 and down.An aftermarket scan tool will not read the codes and the only scan tool that will read the codes is Chrysler's factory scan tool DRB III


The dealer is the one that read the error for me, and then cleared the codes

Thanks :)

Did clearing the codes fix your problem? cause now I see you say you need a cab module too?

The abs light came on briefly but had went back out before I got it back up for them to look at again, my fingers are crossed that it will stay that way for a bit at least. They did clear the codes, so only time will tell.

Well Walt

looks like it may well be a while longer on them ABS parts, I checked today with the deraler, seems they have 300 of these on back order, it must be a real "popular" repair job for these guys. I'm glad at least in in the "system" in case chrysler decides this is getting too expensive, since they are honoring the recall on any model year with any milage for now and may decide to cut it off at some point.

So now I was told it would be till mid June before the parts are in, well see.....

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I hope it doesnt take as long as it did to get mine fixed. Knock on wood, things are working fine at this time.

I hope not too, since here in VA we have an annual inspection to do, and I was told with the ABS light on it wouldn't pass state inspection. I told the dealer that just in case they forgot.

Well its been since March that these ABS parts for my 92 T&C were on order for the recall on the bendix 10 system. I had to contact Chrysler Customer Service to get some response, right now I'm in contact with some dude named Robert who at least is calling me now and than on the progress he is or isn't making. It seems the dealership didn't put a "high" priority on the order to start with, so he did that at least, and now has to go even higher to DMPAR man.... so maybe Waltham41 was right about waiting a year for his.

I hope it doesnt take as long as it did to get mine fixed. Knock on wood, things are working fine at this time.


Waltham41 if you see this get back to me.

I'm at my end here with waiting for these damned parts, have called Chrysler Customer Support 1-800-922-1997, to a rep named Robert, several times on this thing, and the dealer, Crossroads Chrysler 804-733-4664, no one seems to know where these parts come from or when they would ever arrive. I even called Bendix and got a call back from a Jeff Cook , 248-669-4868, that stated that Bendix no longer makes these parts, that they sold that to Bosch. Which I can't get hold of.

If its possible, and you still have the box your parts came in can you get me the information on the shipping label? like where they came from. If you don't have that maybe the dealer where you had yours fixed still has the address from where they got the parts.

I'm making a long log on this crap and will soon go to my help on your side TV station, and see if they can find out where these parts come from. I mean damn man they have to order them from someone.

Seems to me if Chrysler has a recall on these and can't get parts, than they should just buy it back at the going rate or do a trade on a comperable item.

This is getting crazy .... Thanks

I am sorry to see that you are having to wait for your parts so long also, I asked my local dealer why they took so long to get the part, and they said they ordered it through Dodge and that because it was such an old vehicle that is what took so long to get it. I cant even begin to guess where in the parts chain the part actually came from.

Your best bet may be to go to the television station and see if that puts a fire under their rears, because after all, the part does have a life time warranty on the recall.


It seems that you can actually buy the part remanufactured for not too bad prices at various places on the internet, but I think they are probably a real pain in the rear to replace.

Good luck and keep us posted.

thanks for getting back, but I was hoping to have some sort of address from where the dumb parts came from so I could have something to give these parts experts.

That guy from Bendix did tell me the numbers for the recall parts were R47040086 and R4509292 I'm not sure though if thats part no or recall no..

I called the dealer again and the parts manager wants to put some kind of pump kit in it, but I told him I want the damned master cyl and accumulator fixed whic is one unit and what is under recall. I'm worried if i let them do something else they may say thats all they have to do.

By any chance if you do or anyone have a POC for these parts, let me know.

Also I called AutoZone and they said that this was not available through them, only the dealer can get this part. wow... I figured if AutoZone had it in stock I'd go right to the parts manager and let him know where he can get it.

Thanks.

Ask the service manager for the contact information for the CEO of Chrysler and that you are going to contact him and see if he can find one in the system for you.

I am sorry that I could not help you with where Dodge got mine, they just told me they ordered it through their parts system and it came in finally.

I know I have seen them remanufactured on the internet for sale, if I can find the link I will post it here for you.

Good luck in the mean time

I believe this is it here

http://www.partsamerica.com/ProductDetail.aspx?mfrcode=A1C&mfrpartnumber=123113&parttype=1395&ptset=A

Thanks Walt.... I printed out the page showing the damned part IS available I'm gona take it to the Parts mangr Monday and show it to him. I can't see why Chrysler wouldn't authorize them to get it there.

Good Luck! Let us know what happens, if they wont do it , get the contact info for someone up high in Chrysler and tell them that you know where to get the part and Dodge will not work with you on it. Remind him that it is under a lifetime recall and they need to honor their promises.

http://www.rockauto.com/catalog/x,carcode,1308428,parttype,1588

Here is another site that has them even cheaper

walt, I went to both sites and did a print of the page, took them to the parts manager today. Problem is,

1. they Chrysler won't authorize any parts from outside. funny because they are being made by a 3rd party anyway.

2. The parts manager called both and they didn't even have any core's to rebuild, man o man

I got fed up today and called the NHTSA who said to call another Chrysler hot line that deals with these recalls 1-800-853-1403, spoke with a rep Randall for a few min who said he will do some checking and get back to me.

I have a running log here since March on this thing now, from the dealership, to Chrysler Customer Svc, to NHTSA, and now to this Chrysler hot line.

Its getting to be a real circus with this stuff. The parts manager told me they had like 320 of these things on back order now.

I told him that Chrysler has only 3 options at this point that I can see, 1 fix the damned problem, 2. give me a rental and let the thing sit there for another year, or 3. just buy it back or give me a compatable vechicle in exchange.

I'm not gona let these guys of the hook here, this is gona be my project now as when the inspection sticker runs out, it won't pass inspection here in VA, and that means I won't have use of my private property due to Chrysler.

Sorry that neither of the links I provided had the parts in stock, keep us updated on what happens with your problem.

Good Luck!

Yeah well I called that other Chrysler hot line, and still have yet to get anything back on this from them.

I'm seein why all the auto stocks are fallin, and to look at all the problems these Chrysler vans are havin even the newer ones I doubt I'd ever buy one again.

As for this 92 T&C its only used local and when it dies its gona go to the junk yard with all the rest of the vans there from Chrysler.

Yeah well I called that other Chrysler hot line, and still have yet to get anything back on this from them.

I'm seein why all the auto stocks are fallin, and to look at all the problems these Chrysler vans are havin even the newer ones I doubt I'd ever buy one again.

As for this 92 T&C its only used local and when it dies its gona go to the junk yard with all the rest of the vans there from Chrysler.


The ABS system is under a life time warranty.
Is your dealer covering it under warranty?
MT

The ABS system is under a life time warranty.
Is your dealer covering it under warranty?
MT


I hate to beat a dead horse here brother, but did you read the whole thread so far?

Yeah "they" are "covering it", but there's NO parts, and NO ONE in the Chrysler network seems to have any idea where they come from, or when they will ever see any.

This is getting too weird, and as the parts manager AP at Crossroads Chrysler here in Petersburg VA said they have 320 of these things on back order!!!. ( 804-733-4664, Crossroads) If you know of where the parts can be had, PLEASE give AP a call......

I am now awaiting a reply call from this other Chrysler Group ( 1-800-853-1403) on what is next, I called them twice now, spoke to a Randall, and than to a Camron, but I'm not holding my breath, I'm sure I'll have to call them back myself by Monday.

I also called this NHTSA at 1-800-327-4236) who only said to call that Chrysler Group number.

I have only 3 options left to see if it can ever be completed, 1. call my ATTY Gen of VA, (dono if this even falls in that jurstiction) 2. send a email to my comgressman ( yeah right), or 3, go to my local help on your side TV person. Hell I dono what else to do at this point.

And this "lifetime" stuff can be misleading too, I had a 88 Dodge caravan that I put 8 "lifetime" intank fuel pumps in lol. in less than 8 months.

ANYONE out there have a good email address or fax number to the CEO of DaimlerChrysler ?? this crap with chrysler support reps sucks

I sent a long email to one of the contact address' on the chrysler site yesterday but have no idea if it will get to the top. I need a direct link to some higher up there, the links there are only for standard Q&A stuff.

I found a email to that German CEO but it came back as undeliverable.


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I got the same problem with my 91 grand caravan 3.3 Lt and I spent a fortune trying to fix it and the problem was that the module that control the abs system was not working propertly so I try to buy from junk jards and it was not that good and I also went to the dealer in Newburgh, NY and it was costing too much money.....

So I got this idea of replacing the ABS brakes to regular brakes and it is working wonderfull and it costed me a lot less than getting it from the dealer.

just do the best you can and try to get the module of the ABS system and you will see that I am not lying to ya

Good luck with the problem get it fix as soon as you can. but think about all the money tha you are going to spent

yeah I hear that Autoeducassist but its not gona cost me a dime guy, its a covered part through Chrysler recall. NHTSA96V099000

I did get a call back yesterday after sending another email with all the info to date to another section at Chrysler HQ, but still never got to the TOP guy yet.

Also called my parts guy at the dealership who also said he got a call from them too, so I do have them lookin at the problem.

Anyway Chrysler said they are in the works with a supplier for the part, and the parts guy said his computer now shows a ETA of the part in Oct. So the game goes on.

As for the idea of switching to just regular breaks, that's what I would really like for them to do, I don't need ABS anyway never did. But they (the dealership) says that's not covered, and it would take a rebuild of the entire break system. anyway I'm gona make em fix this sucker one way or another as long as its under a "life time" recall its their buck.

I'll keep this thread alive as long as needed to complete this mission so anyone else with this mess at least has a good idea what they're lookin at. I bought this thing in March from a guy that tried to hide this defect by covering the ABS light with black elec tape, cause I guess he just gave up. When I found out I almost took him to court for fruad, but after I found that it was covered under recall I decided it was on him.

hy Walt....

well I have one update on this saga now, I actually got a call back from Chrysler In MI, the gal said that the part I needed was being shipped to the dealer tomorrow, now how long it takes to get here is another thing, but at least I have someone call me and let me know something.

So far this ABS is the only problem I have encountered since I picked up this used 92 T&C, I read a lot of bad stuff on these vans here and am just braceing myself for more fun on this thing.

I didn't pay a lot for it, and won't put much if any money in it either, this ABS deal is recall, so its on Chrysler anyway. If this sucker lasts a couple years I won't complain by than to take it to the junk yard.

I own Toyota now, and will look at the 07 Tachoma, no more vans for me....

Glad to hear that you are making progress, I hope it works out for you.

We didnt pay much for ours either, had to replace all of the motor mounts and both drive axles, but it did have a fresh rebuilt tranny in it.

I am like you, if something major happens to it, it probably will be scrapped as it has high mileage and just isnt worth the money to fix.

Good Luck and keep us posted

Walt

OK an update ...... The part arrived yesterday, have appointment to install tomorrow. I'll let you know how it goes.

BTW: anything I should know to tell them to be aware of when they do this? like clearing codes, or ya think these chrysler mech's know what they are doin. LOL :))

Glad to hear that they finally found one for you, if they dont clear the codes all you have to do as far as I know is unhook the battery for a few minutes and that will clear them

The only problem they had with mine was the rod on the back of the defective unit was a different length than the new one, they scratched their heads on that one until one of the techs got smart and just swapped the rods so it would be correct.

Keep us posted.

Walt

OK an update ...... The part arrived yesterday, have appointment to install tomorrow. I'll let you know how it goes.

BTW: anything I should know to tell them to be aware of when they do this? like clearing codes, or ya think these chrysler mech's know what they are doin. LOL :))

Glad your are making progress on it.
Just let them do there thing.
Most of them know what is best.
If you have done anything yourself on the repair just tell them what you done and they can take it from there.
Usually ABS codes clear thereself on key off ign on.
If the light stays on then you have a problem,
Light goes off all is well.
Let us know hoe it goes.
MT

Update 2

took it in this morning 0830, by 13:20 they called and said it won't be done till 5, and BTW the lines are froze and won't break loose, and they may have to break them and replace them "at my expense" I said yeah right, no sweat, just note it ALL down in plain english what you do that will cose me and I'll call Chrysler HQ myself on it.

Went back at 16:30 to see what the status was, and they said it will be done tomorrow, they will call me when to pick it up, and oh by the way the lines "came loose" after "soaking" them (yeah really) I guess my mentioning that I'll get back with Chrysler HQ on anythinf that was "on me" due to this recall got their attention. As far as I'm concedrned anything they do to repair a recall they can bill Chrysler for.

So we'll se what happens tomorrow.... I'll K I T

Update 3

Picked up van, paid 79.95 for the "extra" work for the lines ( weird)

Anyway seems I need another part, a pump, which is also under recall, this part was orderd and will be installed when it comes in. The ABS light is still on though, and the red break light comes on at first than goes out after a few min of driving. The breaks still feel the same too.

The Service guy said that this won't change untill they can install the other part, the pump.

Also called the Chrysler contact about this, was told the part should be there next week, and that Chrysler will reimburse me the 79 bucks. So we'll see how it goes from here.

Ain't this stuff fun :)

update 4

Walt looks like this story will never end till its junked lol (groans) OK the Accumulator/master cyl has been replaced, today the pump was replaced, the breaks are working OK the red break light is off, YET now the ABS light is still on, It does does seem to be out for a few sec when you start up, but than pops back on. Here's what they put on my copy.

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CUSTOMER STATES ABS LIGHT ON AND BRAKE LIGHT INSTALL SOP.PER RECAL REPLACED THE ABS PUMP.DUE TO PUMP RUNNING ALL THE TIME, FIXED THE PUMP PROBLEM. NOW HAS CODE FOR MODULE FAILURE WILL NEED MORE TIME FOR DIAGNOSES ON THE ABS SYSTEM. ACCORDING TO TEST COULD BE THE ABS MODULE OR A WIREING PROBLEM NEITHER WITCH ARE COVERED UNDER THE RECALL.
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So now I'm wondering if "codes" were cleared like they were on yours. Cause I remember you sayin somptin like this. You think if I unhook the batt for a few sec it would correct?

update 4

Walt looks like this story will never end till its junked lol (groans) OK the Accumulator/master cyl has been replaced, today the pump was replaced, the breaks are working OK the red break light is off, YET now the ABS light is still on, It does does seem to be out for a few sec when you start up, but than pops back on. Here's what they put on my copy.

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CUSTOMER STATES ABS LIGHT ON AND BRAKE LIGHT INSTALL SOP.PER RECAL REPLACED THE ABS PUMP.DUE TO PUMP RUNNING ALL THE TIME, FIXED THE PUMP PROBLEM. NOW HAS CODE FOR MODULE FAILURE WILL NEED MORE TIME FOR DIAGNOSES ON THE ABS SYSTEM. ACCORDING TO TEST COULD BE THE ABS MODULE OR A WIREING PROBLEM NEITHER WITCH ARE COVERED UNDER THE RECALL.
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So now I'm wondering if "codes" were cleared like they were on yours. Cause I remember you sayin somptin like this. You think if I unhook the batt for a few sec it would correct?


Do not let them off the hook.
They are just trying to weasel out on it.
The modjulator is part of the abs brake system which is under a lifetime warranty.
Abs codes unlike engine codes will clear thereself ever time key is turned off and recheck there self on key on start up.
MT

Do not let them off the hook.
They are just trying to weasel out on it.
The modjulator is part of the abs brake system which is under a lifetime warranty.
Abs codes unlike engine codes will clear thereself ever time key is turned off and recheck there self on key on start up.
MT


Well all I have on recall is the 2 parts they replaced, if you have anything in writing showing the module is also a recall part pls post it here so I can send it to Chrysler HQ contact and ask about it or why the dealer said all recall parts have been replaced.

BTW: anybody know what this "ABS module" is? what it looks like and where its located?

Well all I have on recall is the 2 parts they replaced, if you have anything in writing showing the module is also a recall part pls post it here so I can send it to Chrysler HQ contact and ask about it or why the dealer said all recall parts have been replaced.

BTW: anybody know what this "ABS module" is? what it looks like and where its located?


The module is part of the ABS unit.
The ABS unit has a extended liftime warranty parts and labor.
Your dealer should have the information on it.
If they can not fix it find a dealer that will.
Call the 800 customer service in the owners manual.
Or contact the NHTSA.
MT

there is NO abs module listed as part of the recall that I can find, it has 2 parts listed, the accu/mastcyl and the pump. no numbers for any module.

I talked to Chrysler this morning, after fax them a copy of what was done and said. And its the same deal. The module if bad is on me.

even the NHTSA said to call the chrysler number.

However if your so sure it is part of the recall get me the document that says so, I've been through this for the past 8 months and you'd think if it was under recall they would have said so. As I managed to get this far after sayin I was gona go to my local TV station.

I'd still like a pic of this module, and just where its located.

there is NO abs module listed as part of the recall that I can find, it has 2 parts listed, the accu/mastcyl and the pump. no numbers for any module.

I talked to Chrysler this morning, after fax them a copy of what was done and said. And its the same deal. The module if bad is on me.

even the NHTSA said to call the chrysler number.

However if your so sure it is part of the recall get me the document that says so, I've been through this for the past 8 months and you'd think if it was under recall they would have said so. As I managed to get this far after sayin I was gona go to my local TV station.

I'd still like a pic of this module, and just where its located.


The Hole ABS system is under a Lifetime Warranty.
Find another good and also a five star cry dealer and see what they have to say about it.

The Hole ABS system is under a Lifetime Warranty.
Find another good and also a five star cry dealer and see what they have to say about it.


OKyyyyyy so like I said since your so sure about this, and I can't find anything on anything else being covered cept the 2 parts, give me a contact that "knows" or some kind of documentation. I already called everybody on this thing I can call at Chrysler, and all I get is the same, the recall is for the 2 items nothing else.

The Hole ABS system is under a Lifetime Warranty.
Find another good and also a five star cry dealer and see what they have to say about it.



OK here's the final deal on this thing for your information: From DaimlerChryslerCorporate HQ Auburn Hills MI

The 2 items accu/mastcyl and the pump ARE covered under LIFETIME recall status.

The CAB module was ONLY covered up to 100,000 miles............................. PERIOD end of story


This recall only effects the 91/92 years with the Bendix 10 ABS system



This old "used" 92 T&C van has 188K, so its NOT gona get the CAB module replaced at Chryslers expense.


At least DaimlerChrysler was nice enough to reimburse me the 79.95 fee charged by the dealer for "extra" work due to the lines being frozen and hard to get off. Which I kinda bitched about cause it looked petty to me for a recall job.


I don't need anymore "expert" advice when its not been researched. I had enough trouble just getting them to do these repairs on this old used van, which was really a surprise to me anyway that those 2 parts were replaced for a van this old. and bought used too. The guy that sold it tried to hide the fact by covering the ABS light with elec tape, which I found a couple days later, but the joke is on him cause I got it pretty much fixed free anyway.

Right now the ABS light is still on but the breaks are OK now, its pretty much an electrical error due to this CAB thing, but I can deal with that one way or another as long as the breaks are workin. Cause as I said if it runs for at least 3 years as it is I'll have got my 800 bucks out of it.

If I was a better mech I'd just remove the entire damned ABS altogether, its useless to me.