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Cizeta Moroder V16 Tcrayzayjay 03-05-2002, 09:42 PM This car is awesome, unbelievable, spectacular, words arent enough.. i don't know a lot about it so i'll just post up a few links. theres something about the way it looks, it just doesnt look... real.. oh yeah, that V16 is referring to the engine :D http://www.jyauto.com/autos/cizeta/cizeta_moroder_v16t_02.jpg http://www.giorgiomorodergallery.com/moroder/cizeta.html http://www.lamborghiniregistry.com/CizetaV16T/index.html Chris 03-06-2002, 12:14 PM Here is some info I found here (http://www.conceptcarz.com/carChosen.asp?car_id=150&NewestConcepts=&manu=34&car_name=&car_type=&recent=&thisPage=&pendingApproval=) In the mid 1980s, Giorgio Moroder and sports car specialist Claudio Zampolli decided they wanted to build something truly unique. Their vision was of the ultimate super-luxury, super-performance sports car. This car borrowed from the realm of rich men's daydreams would offer everything the wealthiest might want in such a vehicle-bold innovative styling, custom manufacturing, greatly enhanced performance, and infinite luxury. Combining their names (Cizeta is Italian for C.Z., Zampolli's initials), the two men decided to refer to their supercar as the Cizeta-Moroder. To create a look worthy of such a supercar, Moroder and Zampolli turned to Marcello Gandini. This accomplished sports car designer had become famous by producing the styling of many Lamborghinis such the Countach and the Lancia Stratos. And the two visionaries were rewarded for their choice with a design that is rich, sleek, sporty and dramatic. But where do you go to build a car the likes of which the world had never seen? Moroder and Zampolli went to the Mecca of fine Italian car production-Modena, Italy. Here a crew gathered that included many who had worked on Marcello Gandini's Lamborghini Countach years earlier. The car was shown at the Geneva Auto Salon in 1988 with tremendous success. By 1991, the attractive Cizeta-Moroder V16T was delivered to the world and available for purchase. This concept car offered many features, with its powerful 16-cylinder engine being the most impressive. Packed with 540 horsepower, this V-16 granted drivers the tremendous ability of accelerating from 0 to 60 mph within 4 seconds and an exhilarating, top running speed of 205 mph. To accomplish such high performance, Oliviero Pedrazzi-the chief designer for Cizeta-Moroder,-introduced a powerful engine that would combine the best of available sports car technology. Though it might be roughly imagined as two V-8s working harmouneously, this finely executed engine is actually much more sophisticated. For example, the engine is transversely mounted just ahead of the rear wheels, and the design incorporates 64 valves and a total of eight camshafts. Two radiators keep this powerplant cooled. With a price tag of $600,000 each, the Cizeta-Moroder came with many other enhanced features besides the inspired engine. For instance, the luxurious and roomy interior sported full leather, and high-end audio and air conditioning systems were standard. Aluminum formed the body of the automobile except for the roof which was built of steel as an added safety feature. Its immense brakes were provided by Brembo. And the tires, manufactured by Pirelli, were the largest available (245/40 front and 334/35 rear) at the time of car's introduction on the market. Even the design of the sports car's logo received maximum thought and attention. In 1988 Moroder received the Philadelphia award for design excellence for his attractive logo concept for the Cizeta-Moroder. Once production was up and running, the plan was to produce one of these super Italian sports cars a week. And other designs and models were envisioned for the future. But despite some orders, including one from an impressed Sultan of Brunai, a world recession forced production of the Cizeta-Moroder to come to a halt. And that's where the story of this dream car rests, at least for now. It weighs 3520lbs, has a 6L V16 with 560hp@8000rpm and 398lb-ft of torque. It does 0-60 in 4.4 seconds, and goes on to 205 mph (sounds like a Diablo, and this site sometimes gets mixed up, so it could be different). Oh, it costs $600000. http://www.pebblenet.com/conceptcarz/images/Cizeta/cizeta_moroder_v16t_3_09.jpg http://www.pebblenet.com/conceptcarz/images/Cizeta/cizeta_moroder_v16t_3_11.jpg http://www.pebblenet.com/conceptcarz/images/Cizeta/cizeta_moroder_v16t_3_05.jpg What ya Smoking?!? 06-20-2002, 04:18 PM whoa.....thats a nice car:bandit: :smoka: :smoker2: :ylsuper The_DeViL_ 06-23-2002, 08:38 PM Aka tricked out Lamborghini. Cool but those 4 headlights look stupid. Ando_Rules 07-02-2002, 10:37 PM wow thats a sick car, but i have never heard of that make before jsb88 10-31-2002, 04:44 PM Nasty interior, but the car looks good! Menu dei Motori 11-02-2002, 07:03 AM look here there is a threat about it http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/t59631.html crayzayjay 11-02-2002, 12:17 PM The interior IS very nasty! So 80's! jsb88 11-02-2002, 12:44 PM how many were made? Menu dei Motori 11-02-2002, 05:52 PM not many around 12i think crayzayjay 11-03-2002, 10:11 AM Any idea how much these things go for? I've got a couple mill lying around my pocket... in my dreams! :D SilverLotus340R 11-03-2002, 11:46 AM they look like a lamborghini with ferrari testarossa vents... and those headlights are cool...yet odd jsb88 11-03-2002, 02:39 PM I hate flip up headlights, they really annoy me. Shame the lotus has got them, but no car is perfect. Menu dei Motori 11-04-2002, 10:05 AM what about the flip up light when you drive 250... when you put your lights on... jsb88 11-04-2002, 11:44 AM It is a real aerodynamic flaw! Thy dont they all have glass design? Menu dei Motori 11-04-2002, 12:36 PM dou you feel it when they come out? jsb88 11-04-2002, 01:29 PM Very slight in the lotus, but when you are in some cars... crayzayjay 11-04-2002, 02:14 PM Why dont they all have glass design? Cos it would ruin/change the look of the front of the car! Menu dei Motori 11-04-2002, 02:43 PM Originally posted by jsb88 Very slight in the lotus, but when you are in some cars... oh wow didnīt know that thats interesting jsb88 11-05-2002, 03:19 AM They try to mininmize it, but in some cars they just havn't bothered. Menu dei Motori 11-05-2002, 08:17 AM friend of me has a ford probe 24 v he has the same light yesterday i tested it at 220kmh ... itīs really a BIG flaw! jsb88 11-05-2002, 09:07 AM I cruise at 90mph on the motorways! that is no test! crayzayjay 11-09-2002, 10:31 AM Of course sticking two square, very un-aerodynamic objects up in the air is going to make a big difference. But thats going to happen in any car with pop-up lights, its something you have to expect and accept. No way of smoothing these types of lights over, is there.... jsb88 11-09-2002, 10:38 AM Making glass ones. :D crayzayjay 11-09-2002, 10:46 AM But then u ruin the design.. theres just no way around it jsb88 11-09-2002, 10:50 AM I suppose. :( There must be a way. Menu dei Motori 11-09-2002, 11:49 AM in germany we have a clever sentence "Wo ein Wille ist, ist auch ein Weg" oh i looked in the lexicon... Where there's a will, there's a way. crayzayjay 11-10-2002, 09:55 AM lol... maybe i'll think about it in my free time :hehe: Menu dei Motori 11-10-2002, 02:02 PM do so :D jsb88 11-11-2002, 04:43 PM I am sure you can put glass instead of flip-ups if you wanted to. crayzayjay 11-12-2002, 07:44 AM of course you can but the whole point of pop-ups is that the hood is all metal, no glass/lights anywhere to be seen. Imagine how, say, a Ferrari F355 would have looked if instead of popups it would have been glass... i wouldnt want to imagine that.... dont get me wrong it suits some cars to have the glass instead but not other cars... Menu dei Motori 11-12-2002, 08:11 AM hmmm can soneone photoshop? :D crayzayjay 11-12-2002, 08:15 AM ive tried and failed too many times... maybe if you ask someone in the graphic manipulation section of the automotive art forum they might be willing to give it a shot... some of the guys in there are pretty good :cool: jsb88 11-12-2002, 09:59 AM Ask andeE or paranoia boats. Cbass 12-08-2002, 09:47 AM Pop ups are far cooler than set headlights, just ask and 924/944 owner ;) crayzayjay 12-08-2002, 07:14 PM The 928 is an interesting one because its lights do pop up, but theyre visible even when in the "down" position.... that was one cool car :D Cbass 12-08-2002, 07:28 PM Yeah, the 968 had the same style lights. I have seen a 968 rebody for 924/944s that uses the factory glass cover, but a recessed headlight from an escort in box in the fender. jsb88 12-09-2002, 10:40 AM interesting... personally i do not like popups very much... shame about the lotus. :) crayzayjay 01-17-2003, 09:37 AM I think they look great. They gave us beautiful cars like the F355! :D Hudson 01-17-2003, 10:53 AM Originally posted by Cbass Pop ups are far cooler than set headlights, just ask and 924/944 owner ;) Not always. Just ask anyone with a "winking" car. Menu dei Motori 01-17-2003, 11:22 AM at high speed they are not the best :D crayzayjay 01-17-2003, 08:55 PM winking cars... heheh... and they always seem to have their high beam on to compensate for only having one functioning light... that pisses the hell outa me! :D jsb88 01-18-2003, 02:06 AM for some reason hardly anyoen ever gets pulled over for it!!! crayzayjay 01-19-2003, 08:56 AM true... my biggest hate, though, is when both rear brake lights dont work.... and you only find out when they slam the brakes in front of you :mad: ... and women seem to like driving around at night without their headlights on... it takes half an hour of gesticulating to get them to understand that as well..... they dont say thanks either friggin bitches Menu dei Motori 01-19-2003, 01:43 PM lol driving without lights at night? she wouldnīt see much.... ;) she must have been drunk jsb88 01-19-2003, 02:23 PM I think the motorways are too well lit, otherwise they would notice ;) Menu dei Motori 01-19-2003, 02:28 PM your motorways are lit? oh cool...!!! jsb88 01-19-2003, 03:04 PM umm.... yes they have light every 20m in the middle of the motorway strip so they light both sides. also on some dual carriage ways as well as motorways. Menu dei Motori 01-19-2003, 03:20 PM cool... here in germany we only have lights in the cities jsb88 01-19-2003, 03:21 PM Really? maybe there is too much motorway to rig it up now, as we started off with them on a lot of Motorways. crayzayjay 01-20-2003, 09:37 AM Originally posted by jsb88 umm.... yes they have light every 20m in the middle of the motorway strip so they light both sides. also on some dual carriage ways as well as motorways. I dont go out of London much so im not driving on motorways so often, but they're not all lit... The M1 (i think) has a nice long stretch where its completely pitch black.. Dangerous in the night when its raining... and thats not so rare in good ole Engerland! Menu dei Motori 01-20-2003, 10:53 AM hey whatīs the problem driving at night in the rain without lights on the motorway? jsb88 01-20-2003, 11:03 AM Going north there is a long black stretch. You can't see without light Menu... Menu dei Motori 01-20-2003, 12:03 PM what about headlights????? you donīt need streetlights... jsb88 01-20-2003, 03:15 PM I dont know, maybe just to give you improved visibility. crayzayjay 01-20-2003, 09:28 PM Menu, on these dark stretches of the motorway, with your low beams on (normal night lights) you cant see the thing that separates both sides of the motorway, you know, the barriers in the middle.. even with the high beams on (strongest light) it's still not that clear. when youre doing 90mph in the fast lane, right next to the barrier, then all of a sudden you cant see it anymore it makes for pretty stressful driving conditions. if you dont have a car in front of you to follow it can be pretty hard work, especially if its pouring down Menu dei Motori 01-21-2003, 04:39 AM hm we have a crash barrier between the one and other side. i donīt have problems with it... i cannot remember how it really looks like on england motorways. iīll see in september when i visit you :) crayzayjay 01-21-2003, 09:49 AM I'm guessing you'll have a nice BMW company car too :D Hopefully i'll have my 330 by then, fingers crossed Menu dei Motori 01-21-2003, 10:42 AM hm iīm not sure... probably only a rental car, a 318i or 320 with automatic... Cbass 01-21-2003, 12:56 PM Buy some of those blue laser beam of death lights for it... then remove then when returning the rental, and sell them on Ebay :D crayzayjay 01-21-2003, 04:29 PM I hate those blue light things!! :p Menu, renting a BMW will be expensive, actually renting any car here is expensive.... i'm looking at a mag and theres an ad that says renting a 3-series starts at Ģ495/month, but that's for corporations so im guessing for a normal person a basic BMW 318i will be Ģ250 a week at the very least.... easyrentacar is probably the cheapest but their cars are mostly merc A-classes so i dont think your bavarian employers would be too happy at you driving that! :D :D jsb88 01-22-2003, 02:49 AM Maybe they would pay for your car? Check to see if you can sneak it into the contract. Menu dei Motori 01-22-2003, 08:20 AM Originally posted by jsb88 Maybe they would pay for your car? Check to see if you can sneak it into the contract. iīm still not sure if i will work at bmw... iīll see in next days... iīm sure they wonīt buy for the car... jsb what do you mean with sneak it into a contract?:( Menu dei Motori 01-22-2003, 08:22 AM Originally posted by crayzayjay I hate those blue light things!! :p Menu, renting a BMW will be expensive, actually renting any car here is expensive.... i'm looking at a mag and theres an ad that says renting a 3-series starts at Ģ495/month, but that's for corporations so im guessing for a normal person a basic BMW 318i will be Ģ250 a week at the very least.... easyrentacar is probably the cheapest but their cars are mostly merc A-classes so i dont think your bavarian employers would be too happy at you driving that! :D :D i would never.... NEVER in my live drive a mercedes. 250 pounds is a bit more than here in germany but i espected more. where do you all guys live in england so i can visit you... :D how long does it take from oxford to london? how many km? about 120 or more? jsb88 01-22-2003, 04:14 PM it is across the country, but i am not sure how far. crayzayjay 01-23-2003, 02:24 PM Originally posted by Menu dei Motori i would never.... NEVER in my live drive a mercedes. 250 pounds is a bit more than here in germany but i espected more. where do you all guys live in england so i can visit you... :D how long does it take from oxford to london? how many km? about 120 or more? I think it is a bit more than 120km, not sure exactly as ive never driven to oxford! dont start with the Merc thing again! theyre nice cars :p different from BMW's but still nice! jsb88 01-24-2003, 03:06 AM Its probably about 120 miles! I-Tech 02-20-2003, 08:23 AM If you look at the moroder from the side I think it looks like a mix between two Lamborghinis: Countach and Diablo. Hudson 02-20-2003, 11:34 AM All three were designed by the same man. crayzayjay 02-21-2003, 01:04 PM it reminds me of the diablo sooooooooo much.... the countach... meh.. not so much vBulletin®, Copyright ©2009, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
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