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daggerlee
03-05-2002, 08:36 PM
Ok ok, I know snowboarder already did one, what can I say, I follow in his foosteps.. :right:

My Tamiya Ferrari Mythos kit, been working on it for about a month off and on. So far I got the body painted with Model Master's Italian Red spray paint, and am done the engine. The paint on the body suffers from orange peel though :( I will be using Micromarks polishing kit on the body, I'll post progress pics!!

Here are some pics:
Body shot
http://mywebpages.comcast.net/kaiyao1/small1.jpg

'Nother shot o the body
http://mywebpages.comcast.net/kaiyao1/small2.jpg

Shot of the engine
http://mywebpages.comcast.net/kaiyao1/small3.jpg

Here's what I'm talking about when I saw texture (WARNING BIG BIG BIG!!!)
http://mywebpages.comcast.net/kaiyao1/Picture 014.jpg

daggerlee
03-07-2002, 07:32 AM
:( Hit a bit of a roadblock

Instructions say for my rims to be painted like this:
http://www.jeffchan.com/cars/concorso2001/pininfarina-mythos3.jpg

a two-tone color of chrome and silver. The main part of the rim needs to be painted silver, and the outer rim is chrome.

http://mywebpages.comcast.net/kaiyao1/small4.jpg

My biggest problem is now is masking the rims, I need to make perfect circles on all four or it'll look all messed up, and it needs to look the same for each rim

What do you think I should do?? :confused: :confused: :confused:

Jay!
03-07-2002, 02:32 PM
Is it close to the size of any common coins? ;)

daggerlee
03-07-2002, 04:40 PM
nope :( can't even fit a dime around it :confused:

S Brake
03-07-2002, 05:20 PM
lookin fantastic so far! i just left the rims chrome. i thought it sorta cheapened the look by doing two tone wheels, but thats just me. do what you gotta do man.

daggerlee
03-09-2002, 12:47 PM
>_< haven't been able to work on the Mythos in a while, been pretty busy :mad:

the rims are easier to mask than they look, upon closer inspection, I dunno if I'll make them silver or not, I'll decide when everything else is done

snowboarder, did you tint the windshield like the instructions said?

Tom_S8
03-09-2002, 01:33 PM
Sorry for getting the thread OT , but snowboarder do you know you have my friend's M5 in the signature? The one in the middle is on polish plates , its a guy that i know myself , he's from Sosnowiec in Poland...

primera man
03-09-2002, 03:24 PM
Looking good so far......let us know how you get on with the wheels and how you done them

daggerlee
03-10-2002, 09:15 PM
These are times that test modeler's patience... :mad:

Today I went over the entire Mythos body with the 3200 grit pad. It's a 2x2 inch flexible pad. Well, I knew beforehand to watch out for sharp edges and raised areas, but I didn't know that with just one or two passes from the sanding cloth that the paint would be removed. The entire body is sanded to a smooth, flat pink-salmon red, but some sharp edges have taken an abuse from the cloth. I gotta respray those areas sometime in the future..

Here are some pics. First one is with the flash, rest are without.

http://mywebpages.comcast.net/kaiyao1/small5.jpg
http://mywebpages.comcast.net/kaiyao1/small6.jpg
http://mywebpages.comcast.net/kaiyao1/small7.jpg
http://mywebpages.comcast.net/kaiyao1/small8.jpg

Jay!
03-10-2002, 09:21 PM
Are you using spray cans? If so, go outside and spray some of your red paint into a film container lid or something equally disposable, and brush it on over the sanded-thru spots. The paint will be thin, but if you can get it to cover with color evenly, you can polish it back smooth...

daggerlee
03-10-2002, 09:42 PM
Are you using spray cans? If so, go outside and spray some of your red paint into a film container lid or something equally disposable, and brush it on over the sanded-thru spots. The paint will be thin, but if you can get it to cover with color evenly, you can polish it back smooth...



Hmm, never thought of that! I painted it with a Testors Model Masters Italian Red spray can, I ran out but I'll buy one this week and try it out.

My original plan was to get the Model Masters Brush-on Italian Red and using an airbrush to brush it on. Brush-painting from the jar gives you a different shade of color, even though it is technically the same paint, as I found out when trying to do touchup work on my Subaru WRX... :( I was thinking that when airbrushed the color would be lighter, closer to the spray can.

S Brake
03-11-2002, 12:02 AM
all i did with the window was paint the black around the outside

Originally posted by Tom_S8
Sorry for getting the thread OT , but snowboarder do you know you have my friend's M5 in the signature? The one in the middle is on polish plates , its a guy that i know myself , he's from Sosnowiec in Poland... i got it from bmwm5.com, which i noticed today that you visit, too bad that my account hasn't been activated or else i would post. does he not want me to use the picture in my sig?

Tom_S8
03-11-2002, 04:43 AM
Originally posted by snowboarder
all i did with the window was paint the black around the outside

i got it from bmwm5.com, which i noticed today that you visit, too bad that my account hasn't been activated or else i would post. does he not want me to use the picture in my sig?

No , it's not that he doesn't want it , he probably doesn't even know, but it's funny that from all those nice M5s , and there are some very nice like Harry's (nick on m5.com-Angel) or like Lupo///M5 , Adrian (Stallion) etc. and you chose the only one M5 from there that is from Poland...

S Brake
03-11-2002, 05:18 PM
is there any way you could talk to gustav and get my account activated, he hasn't responded to any of my emails:(

back on topic, how many coats have you got on now, it looks great. too bad that the color its molded in is a crappy shade of red.

daggerlee
03-15-2002, 08:51 PM
Hmm not so happy :(

Since I'm waiting for some touchup paint on the main body to cure I went ahead and took the engine cover through the entire polishing process of the Micromark kit. The instructions said that by 6000 grit you should see some of the shine returning, but when I reached 12000 grit the surface was still dull, and there were still plenty of sanding scracthes on the surface.

Maybe I wasn't sanding long enough/hard enough, I don't know, but disappointing results.

I then decided to try the Scratch Remover they included with it, this was more to my liking, it restoryed the original shiny gloss to it, but it has a bit of a haze to it, kind of like a reflection in a pool of water that's been disturbed. I also used the Polishing wax on it, this didn't seem to help that much. You can still see the scratches from the sanding

Side note, the engine cover is smooth as a baby's bottom from the sanding

I guess I'll try once more on the wing, and if that doesn't work then I will just spray the whole thing with Future clear coat, which seems to work for me (and is cheaper to buff with 2000 grit paper and Future than to buy a 7.50 polishing kit for each model)

The scratch remover works pretty well I guess, and I'll keep the wax to buff the Future up in my future models

Jay!
03-16-2002, 03:28 PM
A note for sanding: Make sure you're washing the parts and the sanding pads as you go. If the sanding pads are clogged with cut-away paint, they won't cut anymore. And, if some 4000-grit chunk of paint is left on the part when you get to the 6000+ grits, you'll catch it and drag it around and scratch all your work back up as you go.

daggerlee
03-16-2002, 04:32 PM
Everything was wet-sanded, but I don't think I washed the surface between sandings, in afterthought! :rolleyes: :uhoh:

I'll try again later tonight!

daggerlee
03-17-2002, 05:48 PM
Hmm, progress is halted. I resanded the wing, and got the same disappointing results! So I will stop polishing the body and just add a clear coat (if primera-man is reading this, he will be shaking his head in disgust ;) )

Well the reason why progress is halted is because.......

.................................................. ................................

I'm waiting for my new airbrush to arrive :) I'm tired of sloppy and uneven coats of paint from brushpainting! I'm tired of Tamiya's poor brush painting qualities! Blah blah blah...I just wanted an excuse to buy an airbrush :)

The undercarraige needs to be painted X-18...a huge expanse of surface that will look incredibly shitty if I handbrushed it...so I will wait for the airbrush

also, since its a convertible, the interior will be one of the first things people look at, it's a two-tone X-18/flat red, so that needs to have a kickass paint finish too

finally, I want to spray Future clear coat on, instead of handbrushing it, as part of my training :cool:

I already bought a model to experiment airbrushing on, a Revell 2001 Z06 Vette, can't wait!!! If I'm a slow learner expect no updates to this thread for quite a while :grey:

That's all, I guess!

:cool: :cool: :grey:

Jay!
03-17-2002, 06:00 PM
Originally posted by daggerlee
finally, I want to spray Future clear coat on, instead of handbrushing it, as part of my training :cool:Clean it well after the Future. Cured acrylic will kill your airbrush, esp. an internal mix setup.

What kind are you getting? :)

daggerlee
03-17-2002, 06:36 PM
What kind are you getting? :)


It's a secret :coolguy:

Thanks for the advice! I'll have on hand a tanker truck of Windex to clean the brush afterwards with :lol2:

primera man
03-17-2002, 06:55 PM
Originally posted by daggerlee
(if primera-man is reading this, he will be shaking his head in disgust ;) )

.....Pman throws his hands in the air ALSO :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

J/K

TS29 Semi gloss black will do OK for the mean time untill you get your airbrush

daggerlee
03-17-2002, 08:35 PM
.....Pman throws his hands in the air ALSO

:finger: :finger:

Hehe, it's arriving this week, so I'll tough it out and wait til then, plus none of my shops carry TS's, and I don't feel like paying $5 for a 3 oz can of Model Masters Semi Gloss Black

daggerlee
03-20-2002, 05:40 PM
Hmm, I think my problems are due to the nature of enamel paints in general, they tend to cure softer than acrylics and lacquers, which probably makes it bad for sanding, or maybe I haven't let it cure long enough, I read that some modellers wait 6-8 weeks :eek: for their enamel coats to dry

Maybe I will have better luck with auto acrylic lacquers

Anyway, pics of polish vs. unpolished to come soon, I hope

daggerlee
03-21-2002, 07:59 PM
Here you can see the difference...notice how the hood of the Mythos doesn't reflect light...while the polished engine cover does..

http://mywebpages.comcast.net/kaiyao1/mythos/sanding1.jpg

But it's not perfect...the reflections are soft, and cloudy, and there are still scratches to be seen..as can be seen here

http://mywebpages.comcast.net/kaiyao1/mythos/sanding2.jpg

Can't wait to cover in future...arrive, airbrush, damnit!! :)

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