Ok I have a trans am and now Im going to go with an import car. I just purchased a 93 240 sx and want to put in an rb26dett. My question is this when purchasing the motor is there a difference in a

R32 rb26dett
R33 rb26dett
R34 rb26dett?

I know one has the red intake but is there any performace differences and where is the best place to purchase an entire front clip with PCM and so forth? Any info would be greatly appreciated. Also does anyone know where to get a kit that makes the engine swap easier? I want to push close to 800 hp or so.....To show you that im a car lover check out my TransamMY BEAST (http://hometown.aol.com/yellowramairta/)

Thanks guys,

Kenneth

Also Does the year make a difference? like if its a 1995 r33 or q 1993 r33 or 1998 r33?

... Dude... You are not in your right mind.

Any idea how tough this project will be? You'll have to get a BNR32 RB26DETT engine, bolted directly up to a R33 GTS-T's RB25DET transmission. I've heard this is the only combination that will work, otherwise the clutch initiation is different. Pull versus push type.

The engine would be quite tough to fit in... It would be kind of at a slanted angle, and it would be a VERY tight fit.

I would seriously, seriously suggest an RB25DET powertrain... Much easier to mess with. Plus Top Hat and Mckinney make mounts that lower the engine, and move it back closer to the firewall, so the stock hood can close properly.

But I would suggest running into the 240SX Forums for this... They can probably answer your swap question more efficiently.

-Wes

Thanks for the info I will check out the 240 forum.... What I really want to do is get the front clip and weld it to the 240 frame/unibody. This way the bigest mod will be the sterring and I will more than likely have to go with a right side driver to make everything work right. I will have to look at all the dementions first. It would be nice to have an AWD 240 with 600 plus hp. I may go with the rb25 but I still need info on the different motors, even the rb25dett

Thanks again,

Kenneth

Any idea how tough this project will be? You'll have to get a BNR32 RB26DETT engine, bolted directly up to a R33 GTS-T's RB25DET transmission.
True, but is has and can be done. lots of time or money or both :-)

Thanks for the info I will check out the 240 forum.... What I really want to do is get the front clip and weld it to the 240 frame/unibody. This way the bigest mod will be the sterring and I will more than likely have to go with a right side driver to make everything work right. I will have to look at all the dementions first. It would be nice to have an AWD 240 with 600 plus hp. I may go with the rb25 but I still need info on the different motors, even the rb25dett

Thanks again,

Kenneth

So...you'll have a skySX?:sly:

Okay, I've seen it done, but a much easier option would be to do an SR20DET Swap. It'll give you some modding performance, and it's a strong piece. Plus it'll fit into the 240 much easier.

rb20det's and rb20de's are a better fit, but still require lots of custom fab and relocation work. although it is possible to fit the twin turboed rb26 in, its alot of work. cutting off, adding on, relocation, all that crap. you gotta think that your putting an inline-6 cylinder into the space ment for a 4 cylinder.

suggest going with an sr20det swap, its more of a direct fit than the rb series ever could. id leave the rb swaps to the pro's my friend, as you need to know ALOT about not only engines but how to relocate stuff and still have its functionality.

like i said, you cant just go and toss in an rb.

Thanks for the info I will check out the 240 forum.... What I really want to do is get the front clip and weld it to the 240 frame/unibody. This way the bigest mod will be the sterring and I will more than likely have to go with a right side driver to make everything work right. I will have to look at all the dementions first. It would be nice to have an AWD 240 with 600 plus hp. I may go with the rb25 but I still need info on the different motors, even the rb25dett

no such thing as an rb25dett. and no, you wont get awd from sticking the motor in. and the biggest mod WONT be the steering assembly, were talking custom exhaust set up, possibly pushing the firewall back an inch or two. youll need a custom driveshaft to go to the rear wheels, youll need to custom fab fenders and a hood as well, not to mention all the front end work most clips need. they dont usually come with axles control arms or any suspension components, or brakes. its usually the engine bay, engine and all its components, and the ECU and harness. need a transmission too! and most front clips (at least that i know of) dont usually come with fenders, hood, or bumper or wheels or ANYTHING

also - you cant weld an r34 front clip on and have it be a direct fit, think about this...they wont line up, the r34 is quite a bit wider than the 240, and not only that but your going to seriously screw up the wheel base and youll be sacrificing the strength and saftey of the engine/car/you. once you cut the chassis it will never be as strong as it was when you got it.

and do you seriously thinking that converting to RHD is going to be easy? it will make it easier for the engine to fit in, but nothing less. re-routing the clutch brake and gas pedals. you need to custom fab the steering, and order a rhd dash out of a 180 or silvia.

seriously....sr20 would be so much easier for the hassle, especially if you cant take an engine apart and put it back together in a weekend and know how everything works.

Let him screw with it, it could be cool, it also could be the biggest fuck up in Nissan history... One bit of advice, this will be very expensive, what about an R32 front clip, its a little narrower. Over the years the RB series picked up a little power here and there, but nothing an HKS turbo can't cancel out. You don't have to get a new front end. There are plenty of 240's with RB26's (not that many) you need to do some serious engine bay gutting, and relocation. Your best bet is probably is an R33 RB26, R33 GTS tranny, and an R33 GTS rear end. Get out the torch and you don't need a RHD dash. Don't do AWD, get a LSD, and learn to drift. AWD is great but you're not a good driver if you have to rely on it to keep you on the road.

BTW wouldn't it be a Sky-forty SKYline, two-FORTY

Hence Sil-Eighty, SILvia, one-EIGHTY

I still say SKY SX would be cooler:p

Skyline240

it wouldnt be a sil80 because 1.) it wont have an s13 front, and 2.) it wont have a 180sx rear (240 hatch). if its a hatchback its a sky80. skysx sounds good to me for a coupe :D.

... Christ :lol:

Yea... You go ahead and chop the front end off your RPS13, with firewall and everything, and try welding a BNR32 front clip on there... Geez dude.

Maybe a job left to Chuck Foose, or Jesse James, but in a little backyard garage chop shop I dont think its plausible man. Im not sure how this would effect the structural integrity of the car at all, it may not effect it, it may destroy it...

But you had better believe you'll be in over your head dude... You've got to remember the cars not sitting on a chassis, its a uni-body... If its not done just right, one hard turn, one high powered rev, and the front end of the car, dashboard forward is sliding the opposite direction of you, and the rest of your car.

It sounds risky to me... Very. And truthfully, I wouldnt touch the project.

I've seen it done before, but with muscle cars, cars with chassis... And Im not going to lie, I even wanted to do a project like this once...

Until I started talking to choppers, and professional body workers. Its not plausible.

Go RB20DET, or Hell, go CA18DET just to be different from this SR20 cliche. But keep it simple with this one dude... It sounds great until you go at it with a plasma cutter for hours, and before you relize it... You have a floor pan left.

-Wes

for a rb in to a 240 sx check out this page

http://mckinneymotorsports.com/engines.php

they seem to have decent prices and what not, have heard about a few people getting it done by them, and they are a respectable bisnusses


also check out his page for parts neede to do the swap your self

http://www.mckinneymotorsports.com/sale.php

here they got complete front clips, a slivia front end, the mounting hard ware required to fit a rb 25 26 and all that rot, they do it them selves also and that might be a better bet since they have done it before

... Christ :lol:

Yea... You go ahead and chop the front end off your RPS13, with firewall and everything, and try welding a BNR32 front clip on there... Geez dude.

Maybe a job left to Chuck Foose, or Jesse James, but in a little backyard garage chop shop I dont think its plausible man. Im not sure how this would effect the structural integrity of the car at all, it may not effect it, it may destroy it...

But you had better believe you'll be in over your head dude... You've got to remember the cars not sitting on a chassis, its a uni-body... If its not done just right, one hard turn, one high powered rev, and the front end of the car, dashboard forward is sliding the opposite direction of you, and the rest of your car.

It sounds risky to me... Very. And truthfully, I wouldnt touch the project.

I've seen it done before, but with muscle cars, cars with chassis... And Im not going to lie, I even wanted to do a project like this once...

Until I started talking to choppers, and professional body workers. Its not plausible.

Go RB20DET, or Hell, go CA18DET just to be different from this SR20 cliche. But keep it simple with this one dude... It sounds great until you go at it with a plasma cutter for hours, and before you relize it... You have a floor pan left.

-Wes


i think we are in aggreement with everything we both said :D. like we both said kid, it sounds like a great plan until you pull the stocker out and see what work really needs to be done. thats when youll see that its going to take not only alot of work, but alot of downtime for the car (ive heard of these things taking up to 4 months to complete with over a thousand hours logged). a friend of mine went with the rb25 in his car, and man....it took some work.


but i think the one thing we havent mentioned on this swap is the serious effects it will have on the car. weight distribution. you can throw out autoxing or even drifting in it because it will be front heavy. the rb26 weighs a few houndred pounds more than the sr20 or ka24.

for a rb in to a 240 sx check out this page

http://mckinneymotorsports.com/engines.php

they seem to have decent prices and what not, have heard about a few people getting it done by them, and they are a respectable bisnusses


also check out his page for parts neede to do the swap your self

http://www.mckinneymotorsports.com/sale.php

here they got complete front clips, a slivia front end, the mounting hard ware required to fit a rb 25 26 and all that rot, they do it them selves also and that might be a better bet since they have done it before

I have heard nothing but good things about McKinney. I would say go ahead and go with them. They make mounts that bolt directly up, and allow you to utilize yours stock hood without any fabrication, or manipulation, and its just plain easier to work with.

Go ahead and go with them... But I think you'll find this project isnt going to be cheap, or easy... But have fun :D

-Wes