For anyone who isn't sure what kind of car this is its a very small 2 seater 1988 (i think) rear engine RWD car....its pretty quick but nothing crazy....I have a b16 powered crx and i haven;t been able to race anyone to much because first my speedometer broke and dissabled my vtec and then some other stuff happened....but to make a long story short i have the car back with my new dc 4-1 header and test pipe...which i can say made a very nice diffrence...well anyway this kid wanted to race me real bad because he thinks his car is all fast so we go onto the thruway to race where there are no cops on this one big stretch....another thing is he ONLY wanted to race from a stand still because he can launch like crazy...he doesn't spin the tires....so i finally agree being the nice guy that i am....so we come to a stop and i look at him and i hit the gas....he launched good and so did i ...i didn't really spin at all....he took me by about 1/2 a car or a little more by the first 2 gears but after i switched to 3rd i was out...i let off after i switched into 5th....my gear ratios are really short so i shut down at like 95-100....i had him by like 4 cars i would say...i would of kept pulling if i didn't let off :)
well sorry this is long but this is my first "real" kill with my car so i was excited.....peace

Excellent kill! Just watch out for those "Lamborginis" with the Fiero engines!:D

thanks man :) its not the fastest car but its better then racing a neon or a camry haha

Better than racing a Neon? Why do people trash these all the time. They have more power than your car or a Fiero stock. Fieros aren't that fast they have a tiny four cylinder engine. I would expect you to be able to kill one. I am suprized that he held you up to third gear. Maybe he wasn't stock. Anyhow; nice kill.

Way to go on your kill:D Fieros also can come with a pretty peppy V6 and they are pretty quick a guy at work has one.

oh ya thats one ugly ass lebaron
:finger:

Originally posted by 94EXR_Accord
oh ya thats one ugly ass lebaron
:finger:

Ya' screw you too. My car looks damn good.

Originally posted by Polygon
Better than racing a Neon? Why do people trash these all the time. They have more power than your car or a Fiero stock. Fieros aren't that fast they have a tiny four cylinder engine. I would expect you to be able to kill one. I am suprized that he held you up to third gear. Maybe he wasn't stock. Anyhow; nice kill.

What? A B16 puts out 160hp and a Fiero GT puts out around the same with it's 2.8 liter V6. The "tiny" four cylinder engine you mention is actually the base models 2.5 liter inline four which was pretty gutless. How can you say the Neon has more power than a stock Fiero? The most powerfull Neon's that I can remember had around 150hp which is about 10 shy of the Fiero and the V6 Fiero had an ass more torque. The Fiero GT ran low 16's, but it's MID-engined chassis accepts turbo's and V8 conversions readilly. The Neon runs high 15's/low 16's which is about the same as a STOCK CRX SI or Fiero GT, there are lot's of engine swaps available for the Fiero and CRX, how many swaps have you seen for the Neon?

Most Fieros don't have a V6, most of them have a weak four cylinder. Besides the 2003 Neon has 205HP and 220 torque.

thats the best lebaron ive ever seen

1984 was the first year for the Fiero and the only year that the four-banger was the only engine. From '85 to '88 the V6 was put in both the Formula, GT, and 2M6 Fieros, the four-cylinder was only available in the base and 2M4 models. Most of the Fiero's still on the road are V6's because the I4's aren't worth the money needed to keep a 14+ year old running. You're talking about that SRT Neon correct? Most Neon's are going to have the 4 cylinder don't you think? There'll probably be more V6 Fieros than SRT Neon's, if they actually make the SRT Neon.

That is interesting, I didn't know that about Fieros. I hope the SRT Neon is produced in the same numbers as anyother Neon, and it has a 2.4L I4 in it. I guess I need to do some more research next time. I didn't know that about the Fiero.

Originally posted by kidrocket
thats the best lebaron ive ever seen

Thanks, I don't here that a lot around here. :)

i posted a new thread by accident....it was supposed to be a reply to this conversation....anyway if you read it you will see what i have to say....it is title "ok" i am a dumbass i hit the wrong button....anyway it was a 6 cylinder not a weak 4.....>:)

I think the lebaron needs a F&F wing

Originally posted by cybercrx00
I think the lebaron needs a F&F wing

Oh, lord NO!

Originally posted by cybercrx00
I think the lebaron needs a F&F wing

I second that but he should put it on the hood!:bloated:

Originally posted by Neutrino


I second that but he should put it on the hood!:bloated:

GAH!! Not you too?!?!?! :apoke:

I agree with kidrocket - I like.

as fast as the SRT is there not going to make it. The only reason they made it is because the owner of dodge (or one of the higher ups) was in southern california and saw how every one modde'd their cars. Then he said "hhhmmmm, money can be made from this". So they just ripped off the trendy mods and put it on the smallest car they had. Clean trail lights, painted interior, white guages can't remember everything else but think about it from a buisness stand point, imports and mostly a fad and once the fad wears out theres no money to be made. Or they'll just trim it down a lot and only keep the engine specs the same, prolly not though. They wanted to get peoples attention and make people think that Dodge was "down" w/imports and committed to makeing "the most off the hook dope-ass rice rockets ever". Well I've said enough....

I really do like Lebaron's, i've got a video clip of a dodge caravan turbo smoking a corvette that's hilarious. I've got a spare CRX motor that i'm in the process of bolting on a T-25 turbo, problem is I can't run more than 8 or 9 PSI on stock internals. I'll be sure to post track results as soon as the motor is in.

Originally posted by Rgacke
as fast as the SRT is there not going to make it. The only reason they made it is because the owner of dodge (or one of the higher ups) was in southern california and saw how every one modde'd their cars. Then he said "hhhmmmm, money can be made from this". So they just ripped off the trendy mods and put it on the smallest car they had. Clean trail lights, painted interior, white guages can't remember everything else but think about it from a buisness stand point, imports and mostly a fad and once the fad wears out theres no money to be made. Or they'll just trim it down a lot and only keep the engine specs the same, prolly not though. They wanted to get peoples attention and make people think that Dodge was "down" w/imports and committed to makeing "the most off the hook dope-ass rice rockets ever". Well I've said enough....

Sorry to get a little OT, but the SRT is just Chrysler bringing back the turbo charged cars. They used to turbo charge four cylinder cars long before anyone was modding their Hondas. And they aren't trying to be "down" with the imports because they are domestic. This is nothing new, Chrysler has done it for years.

Back in High School a friend worked at his dad's shop. One day they got a black Fiero in and the owner asked his dad to do a swap. What kind you ask? Replace the V6 with a Northstar V8 right out of a caddy.
After some serious modifications he managed to squeeze it in. The rear of the car was almost dragging to the ground from the weight, but man did that thing haul ass. :smoker2:

Sorry to get a little OT, but the SRT is just Chrysler bringing back the turbo charged cars. They used to turbo charge four cylinder cars long before anyone was modding their Hondas. And they aren't trying to be "down" with the imports because they are domestic. This is nothing new, Chrysler has done it for years.

yeah I'm aware of that but thats just it, if put into production the engine is prolly the only thing that won't change, It maybee de-tuned but their not going to market exactly what you see now. The car is just to make people aware that the Neon is out there. If their anything like the old turbo cars they'll be able to pull some good #s after good tuning

yeah dude around here theres a red fiero with a 350 in it....it runs 12's....its supposed to be supercharged to....its real fast

A fiero with a Supercharged 350 and can only manager 12s? I don't doubt your story or anything like that, I'm just saying that it's...well...SLOW!!!:D

Fieros are little bitch cars. good kill and why are you so proud of that lebaron, :rolleyes: Polygon. im just askin so dont get all peepee hurt. ALRIGHT???? :p :flipa:

Originally posted by Polygon


Sorry to get a little OT, but the SRT is just Chrysler bringing back the turbo charged cars. They used to turbo charge four cylinder cars long before anyone was modding their Hondas. And they aren't trying to be "down" with the imports because they are domestic. This is nothing new, Chrysler has done it for years.

Guess what? All those engines you mentioned? MITSUBISHI engines! Including the Neon engines.

Mitsu has been turbocharging their cars since the 70's...

Honda focuses on reliability, and feels that a turbo compromises that reliabilty record...except on Formula engines, of course.

Originally posted by carrrnuttt


Guess what? All those engines you mentioned? MITSUBISHI engines! Including the Neon engines.



Guess who owns Mitsubishi?

Originally posted by PFCfutrell
I really do like Lebaron's, i've got a video clip of a dodge caravan turbo smoking a corvette that's hilarious.

Put it up!!!
That would be hilarious:D

Turbos don't mess with the reliability of the engine if you build it correctly.
The SRT Neon as well as the SRT-10 (Ram) will be released to the public.
A few of the things will probably come off. Hopefully they lose that spoiler. I'm sure the engine will remain close to what it is now.
Same goes for the Ram. It won't keep the 24 in. rims, but I'm sure it WILL keep the Viper motor, 6 speed manual trans. etc.

srt10 has the viper motor, not a turbo

about the fiero runnings 12's......don't know him personally the guy with the fiero i raced does....i figure low 12's on street tires isn't bad....i mean with slicks he probably running low to mid 11's.....maybe it wasn' supercharged :) i think he said it was...but i know he said it had a 350 in it...

Polygon I agree your car is ugly :finger:

Actually im kidding, it looks good but you need to lower that bitch ~ instead of simply rolling over top of the little brats on your street you can take em out :devil:

Polygon I think your car is ugly also but I know it could beat my car and it does not matter what we think but it matters what you think.

Polygon: I know it has the Viper motor. Someone made the comment that a car company didn't want to turbocharge their motor cuz it would affect the longevity.

The SRT10 has the 8.3L (I think thats the displacement) Viper motor.
The SRT-4 (is that the Neons name?) has a Turbo hoever.

I was simply stating that a turbocharged motor will last just as long as an NA motor.

Originally posted by sparq
Actually im kidding, it looks good but you need to lower that bitch ~ instead of simply rolling over top of the little brats on your street you can take em out :devil:


I disagree i think he showd raise it and make it into an SUV like the Sequoia.:devil:

i second that motion

Wow, I have a lot of replies here.

Originally posted by G_racer
Fieros are little bitch cars. good kill and why are you so proud of that lebaron, :rolleyes: Polygon. im just askin so dont get all peepee hurt. ALRIGHT???? :p :flipa:

Because, how many times do I have to say it? I like the looks of my car, plus it can kill you Integra, plus it gets better gas mileage, plus it cost a lot less. And don't get my "peepee" all hurt?!?! Talk like a normal person please not like some kid in grade school.

Originally posted by carrrnuttt


Guess what? All those engines you mentioned? MITSUBISHI engines! Including the Neon engines.

Mitsu has been turbocharging their cars since the 70's...

Honda focuses on reliability, and feels that a turbo compromises that reliabilty record...except on Formula engines, of course.

No they aren't. My 2.2L engine isn't a Mitsu engine. The 2.4 in the new Neon is also a Chrylser engine. I know that the 2.0 and 2.5 were Mitsu engines but no matter the 2.2L is far better than any of them. Besides like Nuetrino said, who owns Mitsubushi? Chrysler.

Originally posted by sparq
Polygon I agree your car is ugly :finger:

Actually im kidding, it looks good but you need to lower that bitch ~ instead of simply rolling over top of the little brats on your street you can take em out :devil:

That is something I would like to do. Oh and those kids get out of the street long before I can run over them anymore.

Originally posted by Frostbyte
Polygon I think your car is ugly also but I know it could beat my car and it does not matter what we think but it matters what you think.

Nope, it doesn't matter what you think. But you are entitled to your opinion. Besides I think my car is much better looking that a Honda Civic. But then again that is just my opinion.

Originally posted by Blackbird01
Polygon: I know it has the Viper motor. Someone made the comment that a car company didn't want to turbocharge their motor cuz it would affect the longevity.

The SRT10 has the 8.3L (I think thats the displacement) Viper motor.
The SRT-4 (is that the Neons name?) has a Turbo hoever.

I was simply stating that a turbocharged motor will last just as long as an NA motor.

I know that. I didn't make that post kidrocket did.

Originally posted by Neutrino



I disagree i think he showd raise it and make it into an SUV like the Sequoia.:devil:

Do I need to shoot you? First the wing now this.

I work on fireos and know that a b16 powered crx cant beat a v6 fiero, so it must have been a four banger. That thing is weak, but so is a stock crx so its a good race. If you want to race our lil fiero, no problem. we got plenty to choose from. none have less than LT1, so be prepared. hehe

those fieros with the 8 cylinders are sick but anyway.....IT IS A SIX CYLINDER....i work with the kid...i have seen the engine....i have I/H/E and a straight pipe.....i have more mods now like ignition, VAFC , and nitrous now but thats what i had to beat him....and to tell you the truth i beat him pretty bad....if you don't believe me thats perfectly fine....but you know these cars run what high 15's stock??? maybe mid 15's??? my car probably runs mid 14's....so i wan't that excited that i beat him because i thought i was going to all along....

oh yeah hes a good driver so its not that....later

Originally posted by phattycrx
For anyone who isn't sure what kind of car this is its a very small 2 seater 1988 (i think) rear engine RWD car....its pretty quick but nothing crazy....

fieros are not rear engine, they are mid-engine, there is a huge difference...

just like the MR2, is mid-engine, not rear engine (in fact the MR2 and fiero were direct competitors)


What? A B16 puts out 160hp and a Fiero GT puts out around the same with it's 2.8 liter V6.

that 2.8 didnt make anywhere near 160HP

GM OHV V6s have NO top end
the 3.1L that the 2.8 eventually became only put out 140-150HP (with 185ft-lbs of torque)

that 2.8 was only 135HP with 160ft-lbs of torque

thats why he got the B16A off the line..

i know a girl who drives a Fiero

it has a luggage rack which makes it ugly as fuck

if you have a luggage rack remove it its GAY :o

luggage racks look good on old bodystyle cal look beetles depending on what else is done

well if in the trunk is mid engine then i guess it is....the NSX is mid engine this car has the engine in the trunk :)

Originally posted by shadowboy


that 2.8 didnt make anywhere near 160HP

GM OHV V6s have NO top end
the 3.1L that the 2.8 eventually became only put out 140-150HP (with 185ft-lbs of torque)

that 2.8 was only 135HP with 160ft-lbs of torque

thats why he got the B16A off the line..


And I might add that the Chevy 2.8L V6 was one of the worst engines ever built and can vouch that they did not have anywhere near 160HP. Those engines were gutless and unreliable.

i dont know about the unreliable part, but gutless they are

the 3.1L in the pontiac grand prix (1992) that my mother used to have lasted 225k miles

unrepairable though, block cracked after getting coolant in the oil (blown gasket)

Originally posted by phattycrx
those fieros with the 8 cylinders are sick but anyway.....IT IS A SIX CYLINDER....i work with the kid...i have seen the engine....i have I/H/E and a straight pipe.....i have more mods now like ignition, VAFC , and nitrous now but thats what i had to beat him....and to tell you the truth i beat him pretty bad....if you don't believe me thats perfectly fine....but you know these cars run what high 15's stock??? maybe mid 15's??? my car probably runs mid 14's....so i wan't that excited that i beat him because i thought i was going to all along....

oh yeah hes a good driver so its not that....later .

Are you saying that your car runs mid-14s now with the nitrous? Or that you were running mid-14s when you beat him??

I know how that can be, same thing happend to me except it was the head. Oh, well, gave me an excuse to put a better one on. :D

I don't know why I thought the Fiero had 160hp, you're right about it being 135. Even so a B16 only pumps out 111 lb-ft versus the Fiero's 160, that's about 45% more torque and it only makes about 20% less horsepower than a B16. I'm not by any means claiming the Fiero's V6 is a better engine than the B16, but compared to the 90+hp 4-cylinder Fiero motor it's amazing.