Well lo and behold! I just had my rear sagging springs replaced under warranty with NO QUESTIONS ASKED! Well I take that back, he did ask me where I got all of that "kick ass stuff" for my truck! Directly following with "man your truck rocks", "man your truck is tight"! He then told me he appreciated my business and to come back anytime.. DAMN! Beaverton Nissan Service Dept. Kicks ASS!

It looks like the X is about 2" higher in the rear now... I will check for sure when I get home.

Very sweet deal!
Funny, I just got back from a local Nissan dealer & they are ordering me two new 2000 XE aluminum alloy wheels under warranty (both are cracked, one much worse than the other).
My mileage reads 35,930 & the tech said he was pretty sure the extended warranty wouldn't cover the wheels so I kind of lucked out as I was not aware of this.
The lead tech actually wanted to replace all 4 wheels :D 'cause he thought it stood to reason that the other 2 may develop cracks but the administrative guy (you know, the salesman who gets promoted to head-up the service department but doesn't know squat about sh!t) said Nissan would never go for that :mad:.
Anyways, looks like we both had pretty good dealer experiences today :D :D

Nice!!

I have to take mine on for the 30km service and I'm hoping that I will not get any grief from the mods that I have done to the X.

I don't think that I should but I'm not sure what they will think of the CIBS install :rolleyes: .

Originally posted by xterrabull
Very sweet deal!
Funny, I just got back from a local Nissan dealer & they are ordering me two new 2000 XE aluminum alloy wheels under warranty (both are cracked, one much worse than the other).
My mileage reads 35,930 & the tech said he was pretty sure the extended warranty wouldn't cover the wheels so I kind of lucked out as I was not aware of this.
The lead tech actually wanted to replace all 4 wheels :D 'cause he thought it stood to reason that the other 2 may develop cracks but the administrative guy (you know, the salesman who gets promoted to head-up the service department but doesn't know squat about sh!t) said Nissan would never go for that :mad:.
Anyways, looks like we both had pretty good dealer experiences today :D :D


get what the lead tech said in writing. that way if they fail you have proof that they knew about it and they decided not to replace them. if you were to get into an accident becuase of this, you would have a nice paper trail. i would go back and get it.

stupid question, when does the warranty on springs expire?

If you don't have the extended, they expire with the 3/36,000 bumper to bumper warranty.

if you get the AALs than you will be really impressed! they make a big difference with the new spring pack.

Can you post that P/N for those Kirk? Also, I am trying to save all the money I can... if you had to choose, what would you get? The AALs or the shackles?

Schweet...I may have to come hang around Beaver Town to get my ABS, window, and springs fixed! :D

Originally posted by Mosi
Can you post that P/N for those Kirk? Also, I am trying to save all the money I can... if you had to choose, what would you get? The AALs or the shackles?


I don't know the part number off the top of my head, sorry. I just called the place and asked for the ones for the X. perhaps MT or FSR do. If i had to choose, i would get the AALs, they will keep your spring pack from sagging more. then get the shackles later.

Did you go through a 4x4 store (like a 4 Wheel Parts)?
Also, did you replace the load spring like Philosopher mentioned he did? I'm wondering this 'cause the rancho website shows their addaleafs being positioned between the spring pack and the load spring (in other words, they indicate the load spring should be left on).
Also, I believe you've got a KMA; any thoughts on the addaleaf's ride feel for those of us not lucky enough to have a KMA :D ?
I do have 9116's in the back so perhaps I can adjust down to compensate for extra stiffness. <sigh> I don't know though....
Also, I'm beginning to like the addaleaf option over the shackle (I'm not looking for much lift anyways) 'cause it seems to me that the shackle rotates/lowers the back end of the spring pack making it more prone to sagging...that's just my impression, though.

I removed the load leaf. the stock u-bolts are not long enough to have it on there. i might get bigger u-bolts and put the load leaf back on. it just doesn't seem good to not have that in there. but a few of the people who's opinions i trust have told me it is only neccessary if you are carying really heavy loads.

as for the feel of them without the custom bumper....mine is not on there right now, i am running the stock bumper right now as my custom bumper is being worked on up at Skid Row. it feels fine to me. i imagine it'll be different with the bumper on though.

the rancho 9116s are eh limiting factor in my setup. with the shackles and the AALs, i bottom them out. which is fine for the moment, cause otherwise i would have to lengthen the brake lines and diff breather.

and yes i got them from a 4x4 shop. anyone that carries rancho products should be able to get them i would think.

Cool & a big "thanks" as always for the info....
I'm guessing that with the addaleaf and no shackle my 9116's won't bottom out (well, maybe under *some* circumstances :)).
Looks like I'll order the addaleaf from 4WheelParts since FSR doesn't list them on his website :( (I did notice a recent nissan-offroad.com site update, though).
I may also look for bigger u-bolts so I can keep the load leaf on there.

There is no real point in keeping the load leaf with the AAL. If you buy that part (on the leaf itself, it says Rancho part # RS510 and then underneath that it says "P57022". According to Rancho, it is an element of one of the rear spring packages. It can be bought individually but isn't usually, i.e. most retailers would have to special order it) and look at the instructions, it tells you to replace the load leaf if you only have one per side (thus I said that we really are doing a "replace a leaf", not an "add a leaf"). The instructions state that if you have 2 load leaves per side that one should stay and one should be ditched.

Email FSR and he can get the part for you - just because it isn't listed on their site doesn't mean he can't get it. :)

Okay, I get it now.
So, you could think of the Rancho RAL (replacealeaf) as being a load leaf with some arc to it; kind of a poor man's replaced spring pack :D, an "upgraded spring pack" I guess...er, or something like that....
Speaking of which, I'm assuming some/most of you got FSR's email this morning about having pricing on the Rancho leaf in "20 minutes".
I've been waiting all day in a bit of suspense....

OK, I have some pricing for the Rancho add a leafs...$58 for the pair...I can do a little bit better if there are a bunch of you placing an order together...it will also save on shipping if they are shipped to one address.

--Todd

Wow!...hmm, the price is lower than I expected, but that's okay I suppose :).
A group buy to lower the price would be nice but I wouldn't want to wait too long -- I'm looking to install next weekend. Probably by the end of this weekend anyone who's interested will chime in.
I'm assuming this is the same part already installed by Philosopher and Synchro.
Now, if only we could get one of them to post a "How-to" with pictures :D.

I would like to participate in a group buy. Does the new leaf just remedy sagging of the stock springs, or does it add lift as well? Either way I would like to purchase a set. Thanks for your efforts in putting this together FSR :)

I just read "The Tall T Gets Taller" and answered my question -- 1.5 to 2 inches of lift. Where is FSR's site? I'm not sure if I have seen it. I eventually want to buy new torsion bars also.

My springs have 47,000 miles on them, on road and beating the crap out of them off road...they had started to sag and the swing away bumper just accelerated this. The add aleafs provided between 2.75-3" of lift to my truck, I am now about 1.5" taller than Swampwrecker and he is running 33" TSL's. They are not up on the site yet but they should be tomorrow...next week the Billstein/KYB shocks will be up as well. The site is at www.Extreme4x4Parts.com , you can e-mail me at ExtremeOffroadEquipment@Hotmail.com as well.

Thanks,
Todd

Originally posted by FSRBIKER
The add aleafs provided between 2.75-3" of lift to my truck, I am now about 1.5" taller than Swampwrecker and he is running 33" TSL's.

2.75 - 3" of lift? Not me. Maybe my shackles are affecting it but I certainly didn't get that much. BTW as of yesterday the measurements I listed in the "TTT Gets Taller" thread are still correct.

Yes, 2.75-3" is a bit much for me; I was looking for the 1.5-2" you mentioned 'cause up front I've just got a little bit (.75-1") of t-bar lift.
Thanks for verifying your measurements are still the same.
Also, the instructions for measuring ride heigh from the manual posted by OffroadX (the difference between the front of lower a-arm pivot bolt to ground and the steering stop bracket to ground) is VERY useful due to the fact that it seems to be independent of tire size since any heigh difference due to larger tires cancels out in the subtraction (I think this is true, but not 100% sure).
I measured mine & got about 2.75" whereas factory spec is about 1.79"-1.96" according to OffroadX's post.

Originally posted by xterrabull
Yes, 2.75-3" is a bit much for me; I was looking for the 1.5-2" you mentioned 'cause up front I've just got a little bit (.75-1") of t-bar lift.
Thanks for verifying your measurements are still the same.
Also, the instructions for measuring ride heigh from the manual posted by OffroadX (the difference between the front of lower a-arm pivot bolt to ground and the steering stop bracket to ground) is VERY useful due to the fact that it seems to be independent of tire size since any heigh difference due to larger tires cancels out in the subtraction (I think this is true, but not 100% sure).
I measured mine & got about 2.75" whereas factory spec is about 1.79"-1.96" according to OffroadX's post.



No sweat.

Yep, when my tech did the alignment after I installed my t-bars he said "well, you know the caster couldn't even be checked because the truck is too high." :)

Mike remeber you had your stock springs replaced already, mine are the originals and I could barely get my hand between the fender lip and the rear tires before the add a leafs. Considering Swampwrecker's truck has a lot less miles than mine, no swing away bumper, etc his springs probably have not sagged much...I think close to 2" is what people will get out of the springs...not the gains I saw.

Dumbass, delete 2 of those.

Originally posted by xterrabull
Now, if only we could get one of them to post a "How-to" with pictures :D.


as soon as i get the pics from Will you will get what you asked for.

...looking forward to it.