Mostly because it's not in production...yet. http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/images/smilies/uhoh.gif

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v485/hemiboy/durangopickup.jpg

Hmm...I'm not much of a truck guy, but that thing makes me think evil thoughts. http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/images/smilies/evil_lol.gif

Have you heard of the Dodge SRT10. It's pretty much a lowered Ram, with about 500HP. I think anyways. They have a few around my area. They are brutally fast and mean. I love em. That's pretty much the only dodge I'd like to own. Late...

neato

That would make the old Dakota RTs look like a sissy girl!

Yo..them Ram-SRT-10's aint fast at all...5.4 seconds is quite bad for something packing the same engine from the Viper...

Yeah, but you gotta realize that it's a truck. Trucks weigh much more than a car does. I think that is actually pretty good considering that it is a truck and all. Late...

Yo..them Ram-SRT-10's aint fast at all...5.4 seconds is quite bad for something packing the same engine from the Viper...

You do realize it weighs about twice the viper right?

Seriously, I agree with Signal748. Do the math there. Late...

wow sounds interesting never understood fast only trucks I do like the new lighting it'll pull a lil boat and still smoke tires.

That Viper Ram also has 22 inch wheels. Looks good with them but damn...thats a little too big to be racing around with. I don't know what the gearing is in that truck but with wheels that huge it should come with at least 4.56.

I am not a truck guy either. But I would take a lightning or srt10 anyday. And if that thing makes it into production, I have no problem with a hemiTT.

Why would you buy this truck, I mean seriously? Trucks are for hauling stuff, not for racing. Why would you pay all that money for a car to go 0-60 in 5.4? Just get a 01-04 mustang GT and there is your 5.4 seconds.

Why would you buy this truck, I mean seriously? Trucks are for hauling stuff, not for racing. Why would you pay all that money for a car to go 0-60 in 5.4? Just get a 01-04 mustang GT and there is your 5.4 seconds.

How many 01-04 Mustang GTs would you say are running around these days??

I think that's why people want to spend all of that money for a 5.4 second 0-60 truck, you know, something different.

i see a billion, and the truck is like probably 10-20k more

actually truck trend got the srt-10 ram to 60 in 4.9 seconds.

i see a billion

That's my point.

I've never seen one run, but according to the magazines, they do low 13s.

So what if it goes in 4.9, with the 10-20k left over you can put like a turbo in the mustang or w/e car it is and would smoke the truck

and chevytrucks92, its because there the fastest sport car you can get for a low price.

Aval...alot of people (who have god money) have thier car they work on/race and then thier car that is thier daily driver, and usefull car. That second is usually a truck or SUV. Fun to drive, but usefull. Also some people are either truck-enthusiasts, or they need a truck for job ect. Why not have fun with it? Also Muscle Mustangs and other Fast Fords Magazine has had lots of Lightnings that would smoke *literally* most cars on the street.

The dodge ram srt-10 Runs almost identical numbers to the Neon SRT-4 if I remember correctly.

Btw, Theres a f*in Viper parked down the road, silver with blue stripes.... and a bigass spoiler, goddamn it's sweet....

I've never seen a lightning go fast, It really dissapoints me, there are 4 within a 3 mile radius of me, all of them silver, granted there owners all drive cars that can go fast too... (one has a carrera, one has some little kit car roadster thing... reminds me of a ford indigo also drives an m5, the other guy has an nsx and ferrari, and the fourth guy has a 55o maranello) Stupid bitchs, drive your trucks fast too!

haha....

btw are those rumble bees fast?

So what if it goes in 4.9, with the 10-20k left over you can put like a turbo in the mustang or w/e car it is and would smoke the truck

and chevytrucks92, its because there the fastest sport car you can get for a low price.


and with that money you can drop a GN turbo V6 in a Geon and run 9s. Modded argumens are overdone and never ending.

Modded argumens are overdone and never ending.

YES!
Way overdone, it gets really annoying, cause envariably the "Yeah but its still just a _____" gets dropped in there and then 30 different cars as well.

that dakota thing looks like a damn cartoon. when i first looked at it i thought it was a drawing. im not sure i like it, at least the SRT 10 looks somewhat decent. loose the fake hood scoop and the flashy 50lb chrome wheels then maybe ill be interested

HighRev87, not that many people have that much money to buy that truck, they get a lower priced but a good car. A mustang is just an example, there are many other cars that can be bought are as good or almost as good as that truck. Racing trucks doesn't make sence to my head, trucks are used for just to haul heavy stuff that regular cars can't, thats why they have to much torque and hgiigh towing capacity.I see your point having a car thats useful and having fun with it but you can have fun with basically any car.

well you dont have to tell me twice. Check my sig.

lol, get the 01-04 there better

Racing trucks doesn't make sence to my head

That's why you're probably not the primary target that DC/FoMoCo/GM markets these trucks to.


btw are those rumble bees fast?

They're just a 2WD Regular Cab Ram with 20 in. wheels, the SRT-10 scoop, a special paint scheme, and maybe lowered slightly with a Hemi.

MT tested a Sport 2WD Regular Cab Ram and it ran 15.11, so I'd say the Rumble Bees will perform the same.

lol, get the 01-04 there better
Well I picked a 99 due to being the first year of 260hp and financial reasons :)
However I am unaware of the differences of a 99 to the 01...

Look...

Yes there is the 99/00's are different than the 02~04 GT's

the wiring harnesss is different. The PCM is different. the computer is different. the Gauge cluster is different (will take a special person that pays attention to details to see the difference). The transmissions are different. The injectors are different. the smog system is also different. the interior is also different. the pistons are different.

The Automatic Mustangs kept the same 4R70W tranny, but shifting points have been altered. Also the V6 Autos used the same as the GT's auto's.


99/00~and early 01's have a 5 speed T45 rated at 325lbs torque capacity with the following gear ratio's
1st = 3.37 2nd =1.99 3rd = 1.33
4th = 1.00 5th = 0.67 and reverse = 3.22


the late 01's~04 5 speeds have the 3550 with the following gear ratio's

the Tremec 3550 is rated at 375ft-lbs the gear ratios is as follows:
1st = 3.27 2nd = 1.98 3rd = 1.34 4th = 1.00 and 5th= .68

its all in what you like avalanche, i use to hate pickups until i drove one, then i fell in love for awhile, love died but i know what its like to love pickups, and a pickup with 500hp is all the better.

lets not use arguements about buy this cheaper and do this to it. again its all about what you want, what you like, and what your doing with it.

sure if some guy wants to go out and buy a pickup strickley for racing, then your arguement comes into play, otherwise it simply depends on the persons wants, needs and likes.

i personlly LOVE the nissan titan, i drove one, they seriously own

You do realize it weighs about twice the viper right?

Not to mention that it has the areodynamic properties of a brick?!

It is the fastest production truck on the planet, not a bad effort if you ask me. Would I buy one, no. Would I take one, you bet your ass!

i thought the Ford Lightining Concept was, brb let me check....

i thought the Ford Lightining Concept was, brb let me check....

It was until the SRT-10 Ram came out. I think it beats it by like 10MPH or something like that.

http://www.supercars.net/cars/2003@$Ford@$Lightning%20SVT%20Conceptx.html

That story was written by Ford; of course it will talk up the concept SVT Lightning. Also, I said production, and the SVT Lighting in that link you posted is just a concept. Check it out, according to the Guinness Book of World Records the SRT-10 Ram is the fastest production truck in the world.

Guinness - SRT-10 Ram. (http://www.guinnessworldrecords.com/gwr5/content_pages/record.asp?recordid=58747)

So you think racing trucks doesn't make sense?

Avalanche, I have one word for you.

Sleeper.

There not made to race, there just useful.

And what on the market for less $$ IS made to race?

Well if the truck is about near 30K which its not, (higher wise..) You can buy your self a Mustang, WRX, STR-4.. etc.

Not to be an ass :P
but...

Whats an STR-4?

Self tuning Radio 4 band?

Whats an STR-4?

Self tuning Radio 4 band?
Yes....whats your point?

Dodge Neon SRT-4..... its 20k and goes 0-60 in 5.5, and can be upgraded.

Well if the truck is about near 30K which its not, (higher wise..) You can buy your self a Mustang, WRX, STR-4.. etc.


well i'm only in my truck 4k including a brand new motor and I'm probably running high 14's.....not too shabby for an almost 30 yr old truck

yea

There not made to race, there just useful.
Tell that to the guy who owns the truck in my sig. Hundreds of people make S-10's into big time dragsters like that guy, hell they're is about 3 of them at the track I always go to. The Lightning and SRT-10 Ram are just a more toned down version of such things.

I see where you're coming from though. When you think truck you think large cargo bed, 4wd, weigh 2 tons, daily driver, why not use it for what it was made for? I guess its the same reason someone would hop up an old station wagon to drag race, because we're Americans, and because we can do it.

you'd have to spend a lot of money to make it a dragster, why not buy a cheaper car which is easier to upgrade?

You also have to think about this.

Just because someone buys a Lightning or an SRT10, it doesn't mean that the only thing they use it for is racing. Its very likely that they'll be using it to haul things also.

So why buy a fast car AND a truck, when you can kill two birds with one stone?

Thats why I bought my Lightning so I can tow my boat, haul fishing and boating stuff around and go reasonibly fast. The new Lightnings and SRT-10 Rams do it all even better.

There not made to race, there just useful.
Tell that to all the sports car owners who are still picking their jaws up off the floor after watching me fly by ;) Sure, my 450hp would be even faster in a lighter platform, but the shock effect is worth it. Just ran 12.2@112 in Texas, 90* & 80% humidity, I'll have my 11's as soon as I can get to the track here, either this week or next :iceslolan

dang thats sweet, what kind of work have you done to it?

dang thats sweet, what kind of work have you done to it?
Thanks man. Here's what I'm running right now:

Intercooled Paxton Novi-2000 @ 11psi
Ported/polished 2.02 heads
55mm throttle body
4bbl M1 intake
1.7 rockers
GSM big tube headers
2.5" Spintech true dual exhaust
PowerDemon R tranny
Custom pcm flash

I'll be swapping out the stock cam and 1.7's for a pretty decent blower cam (don't have the specs on me at the moment) just as soon as it gets here. My last two runs in Texas I blew the intercooler off the blower, I have some t-bar clamps and silicone couplers that will be here this week, should take care of that lil problem. Then it's back to the track for my 11's :) I'm still running on the stock bottom end, gonna fix that this winter with a built shortblock, then I'll be running around 16lbs of boost next year :iceslolan

how much money did you buy and spend in upgrades in total amount of $$$

$18,700 for the truck new two years ago, and probably around $15K in mods, so about $34K altogether. So for about the price of a Cobra I'm going quicker (than a stock Cobra) and I've got the sleeper effect, and I can still haul stuff if I need to. Oh, and my insurance is lower, cause it's just a regular Dakota to the insurance company :biggrin:

you'd have to spend a lot of money to make it a dragster, why not buy a cheaper car which is easier to upgrade?

You have to spend alot of money on anything to make it a dragster though.

The bottom end of the engine alone in the car in my sig. (not counting the price of a block) will set ya back around $2200-2500. You can figure around $2k for a good set of heads, $700-$800 for a carb, around $200 for an intake, around $200-$250 for a set of headers, close to $200 for a good distributor (over $200 if you count plugs and wires), and that's just for the "basics" of an engine.

It's really easy to spend $6000+ on just the engine alone (and that's for SBCs, the cheapest race engines to build by far, if you build a Ford or Dodge, or any brand big block, you're gonna pay alot more). That $6k plus is more then most people put in mods for street cars (most people, not all people).

My point is, it's gonna cost ya alot to build any kind of drag car (truck or not).

Then again, trucks are expensive, around 30k, plus the upgrades. Most people can;t afford that. Thats why i like old mustangs and camaro's, fun car to build up :D

if you want a fast truck for cheaper get an old chevy truck or do a v8 swap into an s-10

I got my truck for only $7,000 and thats about $500 more then normal so then you have plenty of money left over.(unless your a poor student in school)