If you have it please post it up, with 18"?????

its not on a G20 but hey there 18in rims ....thats what u asked for ...just trying to see if this helps you out any ...its eibach pro kit ..peace

18's and Eibach Springs :D

Nice g20 hey, what's your set-up? rims, tires,offset,shocks?:D

Rims....18" Vipers
Tyres...225/45/18
Eibach springs with a 40mm drop
Eibach shocks

is your rim 18X7.5? or 18X7? also whats the offset? 45 series?, looks more like a 40. tight ass ride though

18x7
Offset 42mm
45 series
Hope this helps you out a bit more

Cheers

your eibach springs is that 1.3' drop? because 40mm=1.6' did youcut it? and do you have the part number?

Sorry cant help you out with the part number.

When i got the springs i was told they came in a 30-40-50-80mm size.(trying to remember off the top off my head).

I started off with the 80mm size but it was way to low and the ride was quite bad(bumps) so i changed them to the 40mm and the ride is still a bit on the hard side but i think the next step will be some adjustable shocks as the Eibach shocks i have fitted are not adjustable.
Even with saying this i would say without a doubt that the ride is still a lot better then standard for handling and cornering.

Cheers.

if you do a little bit of digging in this forum, u'll find lots of pics of g20s with the eibach springs....i had those on with 17inch wheels

same here. Have had the springs on for over a year now. Car is still handling well on stock shocks. Go to cosmetic and custom grill thread. you'll se pics of my car ..with the 1.3' drop of eibach springs.

you've had these springs on stock shocks for over a year now:eek: damn...how's the ride? still smooth like stock or has it diminished a little? :alien2:

is it evenly dropped, looking at your car (custome grill) there was a gap in the front, how much gap is that?, do you have stock struts. or is it parked in an inclined plane that's why it appeared to have a more noticeable gap.

its parked on an incline. It looks good, but not slammed. Still have some issues going on steep indoor garage entrances ..so I don't think I'd want it any lower.
The ride is still good, though it does seem a little looser nowadays ...I am thinking of changing shocks soon ..will have to decide what works best with these eibach springs.. The gap is probably about 2 fingers ...it does look good though


hope this helps

Don't know about the P10's but on the P11's the rear fenders seems to hang lower than the front fender. This give a kind of ass-down look. I have NO gap in the rear and about 1 finger in the front with my TIEN's.

man, where can you get TEIN's these days in the US?

you can get the TEINs from me...i have teins on myself, but switching to JIC coilovers next week, if you have been reading the post, I can get you guys all kinds of weird stuff :D
MomoG20 just got the teins from me...b00gie is getting the Impul kit from and smackdown just got the stillen kit from me as well. If you need anything, let me know

dprotech what size of rims is that? I just purchased the eibach spring today and will lower my car with the stock by the way i have a 2002 the stock look good but i will be upgrading someday to 18'. do you guys suggest cutting a coil on the front? will it be bouncy. by the way dprotech how's the ride is the handling better even in rough roads?

Originally posted by supac1
do you guys suggest cutting a coil on the front?

Dont even think about it !!!!

Save your dollars and do the job correctly by buying some good aftermarket springs and shocks.

I'm running 215 40 17s. Car handles bumps nicely but not so nice with potholes ..but then what cars do ..unless you have bouncy wheels and 4x4 travel.

If you are looking for nice rims ask gforces.

Update ...the Stock shocks are beginning to go now, and the ride is getting a little bumpy. Car is still handling okay but I'm not sure it'll hold out for much longer. Two options from here ...find a good adjustible shock or switch to coilovers.
I'll let you know what I decide.

For more pics try http://www.zing.com/album/?id=4292672843

Oops forgot to tell you guys what I have
18x7.5 Heidfelds with 225/45ZR18
and H&R springs
They ride very rough but thats what you need when you lower and for better handling...

nice pics!

what offset are those 18x7.5 wheels??

ty or tony nice frickin rims whats the offset? also how much drop are you springs? also are you using stock struts?

they are 18X7.5 but I forgot the offset..sorry guys...I don't rub only a couple times when the tires were new...but smooth sailing now....I have stock struts and hopefully upgrade to the GAB but thats alittle too much money....the H&R springs supposedly drop about 1.7" in front and 1.5" in the rear....I'm guessing off the top of my head since its been like over a year now...but I could fit one finger in front and 1 1/2 in rear....I think its perfect but its your call...

I have had Eibach Pro-Kit Springs on my bmw e30 m3. The setup was pretty good on the street, although the car sometimes bottomed out on speed bumps (with 225/45/16 tires and 16x7.5 wheels). The track performace was decent, but not great. I switched to a set of full progressive race springs (200-700lbs/in), and was much happier at the track. BUT the Eibachs were a bit better on the street, and soaked up potholes well. Overall I would suggest them to most people who usually dont track their cars and want more cornering ability and a stiffer ride on the street. Upgrading your shocks is almost a must with the Eibachs, or any lowering springs though. Remeber that Shock valving has as much, if not more, to do with ride quality.

If you want the ultimate, I would look into H&R springs/coilovers, or Eibach Road Race springs if they are available.

I agree shocks are a must for any lowering and handling but its just so damn expensive and it can blow...more $$$ down the tube...so I'm waiting to see if any other companies make them for our P11 like KYB or something alittle bit cheaper than the GAB which are like $500 I believe...

Originally posted by qab5b
I have had Eibach Pro-Kit Springs on my bmw e30 m3. The setup was pretty good on the street, although the car sometimes bottomed out on speed bumps

That is a common problem with Pro-Kits. They lower the car, but they don't have enough spring rate to keep the car off the bump stops.

I switched to a set of full progressive race springs (200-700lbs/in), and was much happier at the track. BUT the Eibachs were a bit better on the street, and soaked up potholes well.

The Ground Control coilovers with KYB AGX ride better than Pro-Kits because they prevent bottoming. I'm running 340/275 in my P10 right now, but when I install the DET this weekend, I'll probably switch to 275/200. My only concern again is keeping it off the bump stops.

Remeber that Shock valving has as much, if not more, to do with ride quality.

Exactly right. Shocks, or dampers, should be matched to the springs. They control the oscillations of the spring and just how fast the suspension moves. Too loose and you bounce up and down to much. Too tight and you take a shot through the chassis. Even high rate springs can ride very nicely if the dampers are set correctly.

If you want the ultimate, I would look into H&R springs/coilovers, or Eibach Road Race springs if they are available.

H&R are not available. Right now only the Ground Controls are available for the P10. For the P11 you have a choice between GCs and Tein (Tien?). For the P11 you can get GAB, KYB, or even Konis. For the P10 right now it's just KYB or GAB unless you want to spend some time figuring out a Koni solution.

It's my belief that Japanese dampers are too hard on bounce and not hard enough on rebound. Eventually I want to put together a Koni solution. I think Konis have less bounce damping and more rebound damping. This should make the ride a bit less harsh.

Actually for the P11 there's more than parts for it than you mentioned...Nismo has shock and springs for the car (i believe it is made in conjunction with KYB) also, JIC has true coilover set up for the P11. I just got my set yesterday and i'll post pics and descriptions for the unit tonight.

Ohlin's also has P11 coilovers now ;)

I agree that most Japanese shocks (dampers for those outside of the US), have too much compression. My brother's kyb's (or gabs, i cant remember) are way to stiff even with stock springs and tire size. The setup on my m3 is more compliant on the street (except with big holes or speed bumps when you loose your kidneys) with the race pogressive springs and bilstein sports with 45 series tires. Koni's are also very good shocks (dampers). It seems that with shocks (dampers) the preference for brand is related to the make of the car: Porsche owners usually like Konis, BMW owners its bilsteins, M-B owners like sachs, and the same is true for japanese cars.

I never heard of JIC where did you get them and please post pics please....I only found GAB to be the only company I can get a hold of...even shox.com said that thats the only one and KYB don't make it for the P11...I will ask again one day...peace

JIC-Magic is a Japanese company and they are new to the US, they just got a US distributor earlier this year. Their products are primo stuff. The coilovers are very stiff though as JIC's main focus is high performance road racing suspension setups... (though they do offer some other products)

Digital Racer is one of the few retailers for JIC so far, so if this sounds like something you're interested in, Luke can help you out...


http://www.jic-magic.co.jp/suspension/img/p_flt1.jpg

thanks for the info...sounds like some good stuff...I'll check it out thanks..

warning though.. these are super stiff!! even on the softest damper setting

I went to Ground Control's website and couldn't find anything for the G20 P10 or P11. What am I missing?

They have them, you have to ask. The lowest price I've been able to get is $475 shipped.

Originally posted by FlossinPrimera
I went to Ground Control's website and couldn't find anything for the G20 P10 or P11. What am I missing?

Call them directly and let them know what type of struts you are going to use with them. GC's are not universal.

when I had them on my P11 they cost me $499 and came with new upper strut mounts

it's not that japanese shocks are too stiff....it's the American roads that are waaaay too bumpy!!! :D if you've ever been to Japan, you'll know what I'm talking about. amost 99% of the streets there are super smooth. the rest 1% is gravel in the rural areas. hehehe. :D I've never drivin my car in the US the entire day never encountering bumpy roads.

He's right. That's the same reason H&R didn't release the spring in the U.S.. It's because road conditions vary. The European spring was considered too stiff for U.S. roads. They didn't want to have to wind a new spring for the U.S. because, really, there's not a big aftermarket following for the G20. Thy make springs in one thousand batches. The lowest production spring is made in batches of 50, I guess they didn't think it was worth it. Bastards.