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robitrice19
09-27-2004, 04:07 PM
I just got a 1994 Civic DX w/ a whimpy little D15b7. I was thinking of a supercharging but i don'know. For the money i could buy a B16 and get teh same HP then turbo it. What would be the best solution for under 3000. Don't include the turbo on the B16

GScivic7
09-27-2004, 04:56 PM
Does anyone make superchargers for D series motors? I'd swap the motor. Better platform...

97CivicX
09-27-2004, 05:01 PM
pretty sure JR makes a kit

Beastiek2
09-27-2004, 05:02 PM
WO hey long time no see GScivic7.

Yes swap it, alot more potential with a swap, which you'll appreciate in the long run.

GScivic7
09-27-2004, 05:04 PM
pretty sure JR makes a kit
I figured if anyone would, JR would, but I've read bad things about roots type superchargers on 4 cylinder motors.

97CivicX
09-27-2004, 05:09 PM
me too, i wouldnt do it. i think sc's are more for engines with torque. turbo works just as good if no better

95dxcivic
09-28-2004, 12:29 AM
The swap is more reliable since the d15b7 has been running for ten years. I dont think an old engine will do to good or last any longer with boost.

robitrice19
09-28-2004, 06:24 PM
what would be the best motor to get, the B16 or B18?

GScivic7
09-28-2004, 06:53 PM
which b18 are we talking about here and what are your goals for this car?

95dxcivic
09-28-2004, 11:29 PM
which b18 are we talking about here and what are your goals for this car?
Also, what b16 are you talking about. A or B.
And the b18. C1 or C5.

eckoman_pdx
09-29-2004, 12:10 AM
Also, what b16 are you talking about. A or B.
And the b18. C1 or C5.

You left out the B18B1, it could be that, not just a C1 or C5 (I left out the B18A1 since it's an illegel swap into his car, it's older than the chassis, 90-93).

DAGAME
09-29-2004, 12:56 AM
swap the old D series motor out and put a B18 c5 (Intregra Type -R) and get a greddy turbo kit and you'll be pushing 300+ horse power depending on how much boost you have from the turbo.

GScivic7
09-29-2004, 01:06 AM
C5 and boost do not mix

BuiltV-TecKiller
09-29-2004, 02:47 AM
swap the old D series motor out and put a B18 c5 (Intregra Type -R) and get a greddy turbo kit and you'll be pushing 300+ horse power depending on how much boost you have from the turbo.

Well, in order to boost a type R motor you must first, drop the compression. Plus, it doesn't matter how much boost you run with a turbo if you don't have any power. More Boost does not = More horsepower. :headshake

Best bet is a B-series motor, B16 or LS. If you can get your hands on a GS-R for under 3000 with everything you need, you're getting a godfather deal. But B16 and LS motors are pretty easy to come by at a solid price depending on where you live. Or if you can find a D16Y8 which is the strongest SOHC V-tec motor honda made, boost it, and tune it, you could get easily 175whp or more. If you're thinking of boosting for cheap, check out this website, they seem to have a grasp on how to do it.

www.homemadeturbo.com

eckoman_pdx
09-29-2004, 02:59 AM
swap the old D series motor out and put a B18 c5 (Intregra Type -R) and get a greddy turbo kit and you'll be pushing 300+ horse power depending on how much boost you have from the turbo.

Swap in a B18C5 type-r and boost it? He's not trying to swap in a motor and promptly destory it here. Type-R motors and boost don't mix in general. It is possible to run a type-r motor on boost (low boost), but you better know your tuning VERY WELL and keep it in tune ALL the time. You'll have VERY LITTLE room for error, much less room than with a B16A or B18B1.

As was said, in general, boost and Type-R motors don't mix. This is not a combo that would be recommended in general for boost.

robitrice19
09-29-2004, 02:27 PM
the B16A1 is the one i am talking about

GScivic7
09-29-2004, 02:30 PM
will not work, it's a motor that is older than your chassis and illegal.

b18 ls
09-29-2004, 02:43 PM
If your swaping in a b18c, I would always recomend the GS-R. Not much the "R" engine has over it except air flow, cams and pistons. Which cams and pistons will be replaced if your building an n/a set up, and if your boosting, you'd still have to make changes to lower comp.

So to answer your question, I'd go with the swap. B16 is a great motor. If you go b18, you should think about what you want in the long run. If you want n/a motor, I'd say GS-R. If you want Turbo, you could get a b18b and save some money.

robitrice19
09-29-2004, 06:27 PM
I was looking online today for motors at jspecautomotive.com and found a prelude motor w tranny and all necessary stuff for a full swap. It only costs 2050 but hos much work would it be?

robitrice19
09-29-2004, 06:59 PM
The motor is the H22A from a 92-95 Prelude

GScivic7
09-29-2004, 10:14 PM
there is such a big debate on whether that motor is really worth it or not to swap into Civics. I'd try to find other people with the same swap and ask them how it handles because making the car nose heavy is the big issue, also how the motor sits in the engine bay. I don't think there is anyone here with that swap, so it's just going to be a lot of hear-say (sp?).

97CivicX
09-29-2004, 11:33 PM
everyone ive ever talked to with the h22 swap says all that "hear-say" is bullshit. the actual weight difference is minimal. the other day i read something where the car actually oversteered wiht the swap ::rubs chin::

ask around on ht, im sure youll get some good info from them

95dxcivic
09-29-2004, 11:40 PM
I think its like a 35 lbs. weight difference. Im not sure.

GScivic7
09-30-2004, 03:10 AM
it's not just the weight, but how the motor kinda tilts back and doesn't sit in there straight

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