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danameisoj
09-11-2004, 09:58 PM
whats the better turbo to get? ive seen a big 16g . a regular 16g and the evoIII 16g . which is for what?

do all involve getting the install kit? and whats the power gain difference?

joemathews
09-11-2004, 10:24 PM
It depends on the goals you have for your car.

16g<big 16g<evoIII 16g

If you are looking for 400+ whp, you're going to need an evo III (and yes, I believe it was 430 hp they squeezed out of the evo III just a couple weeks ago!).

96TSi
09-11-2004, 10:24 PM
www.vfaq.com has all the answers you need

kjewer1
09-11-2004, 11:40 PM
I cant possibly see a reason for NOT getting the EVO316g over the other 2, unless you get a deal on a used one. They are only ~550 new.

danameisoj
09-12-2004, 12:38 AM
which one spools faster?

guitarXgeek
09-12-2004, 01:20 AM
It depends on the goals you have for your car.

16g<big 16g<evoIII 16g

If you are looking for 400+ whp, you're going to need an evo III (and yes, I believe it was 430 hp they squeezed out of the evo III just a couple weeks ago!).


:eek: Who made 430whp on the evo316g??? I know SBR just recently hit a little over 400whp, but that was on a highly built motor, race gas, and some REALLY good tuning, if I remember correctly.

It won't be very easy at all to pull 400whp+ out of the evo3b16g. It IS possible, but it would take someone like the people up at SBR to do it ;)

However, if your goals are only mid-high 12 second 1/4 mile, or 300-350whp, then the evo3b16g is the PERFECT turbo for you. I've read nothing but good reviews about this turbo, and everyone I know that has it is VERY happy with it. I'm going for a slightly bigger turbo, just because I know I'll want to go faster once I hit around 350whp :iceslolan. And to answer your question about spooling, I believe the evo3b16g gets full spool just a hair over 3k rpms.

Bottom line- Evo3 16g = great turbo.

joemathews
09-12-2004, 01:25 AM
Sorry guys, GuitarXGeek was right--I guess I was confusing Kevin's numbers with SBRs ;). Still, over 400 whp on one of their dyno pulls is pretty damn impressive for that turbo. Of course, they did have some *very* nice work done on that car...:

SBR Stage II 2.3L stroker (7.5:1 compression, .020" overbore)
SBR Stage VI head, O ring with Topline HG
Comp 101200 camshafts
SBR cast manifold
SBR EVO III 16g, internal gate
HKS VPC
APEXI SAFC I
FIC 650's
SBR fuel system (like we sell on the website, with Aeromotive FPR)

Stock 1990 ECU
Stock intake manifold
Stock cam gears

Tuning, Tuning, Tuning......

Sorry for the misinformation, I just got a little excited :(

guitarXgeek
09-12-2004, 01:28 AM
Regardless, it's a wonderful turbo... just not a 430whp one ;)

JoeWagon
09-12-2004, 02:52 AM
Stroker doesn't count anyway. The EVO 16g is the biggest 16g and is cheap. It's the one to get. It's running 12's all over the place, and I believe has or is soon to run 11's. The difference in spool time is not an issue.

kjewer1
09-12-2004, 07:00 AM
Indeed it has already run 11s, on more than one car. ;) Two local guys have done it, so I'm sure there are several others. All of the built motor stuff doesnt add power. Actually nothing on that list adds power on a 16g, aside from tuning (and that was on a stock ecu no less). It just lets you move that air at lower boost. I think they could squeeze a little more power out of it, but its pretty much maxed out at that point. I cant even remember what this thread was about, so I'll stop rambling now I guess...

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