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Infinit G35/Skyline R35


sr20kid
02-05-2002, 04:33 PM
so there's no ambiguity, the g35 is the skyline. which sux in my opinion. sportcompactcar mag had an article with a coupe g35 (which the magazine and Nissan were calling the Skyline r-35), with a really nice design and an overall impressive package. They were claiming something in the neighborhood of 400 horsies, although that has yet to be seen. As far as I could tell, it was a GT-R trim level, however I'm doubtful that they'll be introducing a 4WD version over here anytime soon. But I'm a little more partial to a rear driven beast anyway. The only thing that is bothering me about this project is the talk of putting a V8 in the skyline for the US version. Why? Does Infiniti think that a V8 is more attractive to US buyers? I think that's a big mistake. Sure they're will be lots of people buying them anyway, but us diehard sport compact car gurus will have to suffer, for what? Our fillial geographic location? Undoubtedly there will be plenty more in the way of aftermarket parts for the Japanese V6 version, not to mention better gas mileage. It makes no sense whatsoever that Infiniti would invest in making a different engine instead of adopting something already produced by Nissan. But that's the way it goes for us, and maybe they'll make up an excuse about emissions or something, but I won't believe it. Infiniti being an American company knows one thing, American's think "bigger is better", and they know a V8 coupe skyline would offer strong competition for Mercedez CLK's and Lexus' coupes...

ImportFreak
02-06-2002, 01:42 PM
the g35 is not the GTR R35 soo umm there u go.. the GTR is gonna have 4wd v6 bla bla bla bla

Da_Bagel
02-18-2004, 12:48 PM
the Infiniti G35 is the american version of the Nissan Skyline V35. Its not a GTR.

NCCaddy
02-19-2004, 07:38 PM
If the corvette had a v6 would anyone buy it?

aznxthuggie
02-25-2004, 11:30 PM
so there's no ambiguity, the g35 is the skyline. which sux in my opinion. sportcompactcar mag had an article with a coupe g35 (which the magazine and Nissan were calling the Skyline r-35), with a really nice design and an overall impressive package. They were claiming something in the neighborhood of 400 horsies, although that has yet to be seen. As far as I could tell, it was a GT-R trim level, however I'm doubtful that they'll be introducing a 4WD version over here anytime soon. But I'm a little more partial to a rear driven beast anyway. The only thing that is bothering me about this project is the talk of putting a V8 in the skyline for the US version. Why? Does Infiniti think that a V8 is more attractive to US buyers? I think that's a big mistake. Sure they're will be lots of people buying them anyway, but us diehard sport compact car gurus will have to suffer, for what? Our fillial geographic location? Undoubtedly there will be plenty more in the way of aftermarket parts for the Japanese V6 version, not to mention better gas mileage. It makes no sense whatsoever that Infiniti would invest in making a different engine instead of adopting something already produced by Nissan. But that's the way it goes for us, and maybe they'll make up an excuse about emissions or something, but I won't believe it. Infiniti being an American company knows one thing, American's think "bigger is better", and they know a V8 coupe skyline would offer strong competition for Mercedez CLK's and Lexus' coupes...

u dont know what ur talkin about.. the g35 coupe is the skyline coupe 350gt in japan the new skyline gtr might not even have a r series engine thats why it might be the v35 gtr because right now the skylines (g35's) have the vq engine inside and the engines are practially same.. most jdm parts will work with the usdm engine because it isn't all the different and the r34 skyline kicked the crap outta so many cars with a inline 6.. and the rb26 engine was only a 2.6 liter engine.. and it was called the r34 because it had a r series engine and it can hold 500hp without changing internals or drastically changing the life of the engine.. now think.. they increased the size of the engine almost a whole liter.. im just guessing they made a great engine that is amendable to turbocharging.. and with the bigger engine size they might be able to push more base horsepower with simply adding turbochargers

BP2K2Max
03-09-2004, 10:51 AM
u dont know what ur talkin about.. the g35 coupe is the skyline coupe 350gt in japan the new skyline gtr might not even have a r series engine thats why it might be the v35 gtr because right now the skylines (g35's) have the vq engine inside and the engines are practially same.. most jdm parts will work with the usdm engine because it isn't all the different and the r34 skyline kicked the crap outta so many cars with a inline 6.. and the rb26 engine was only a 2.6 liter engine.. and it was called the r34 because it had a r series engine and it can hold 500hp without changing internals or drastically changing the life of the engine.. now think.. they increased the size of the engine almost a whole liter.. im just guessing they made a great engine that is amendable to turbocharging.. and with the bigger engine size they might be able to push more base horsepower with simply adding turbochargers
the R35 is definitely gonna be a vq engine which makes the first V6 skyline ever and it will be twin turbo. the Vq uses a lighter engine block which is suppsoed to drastically improve the handling of the new skyline. it will be AWD with the attessa transmission and is supposed to make no less than 400 hp. it's supposd to be coming to our shores as a 2007 model.

VQuick
03-09-2004, 11:20 AM
If you're worrying about how the next GT-R will perform, don't. Hiroshi Tamura, Nissan's product planner for the next GT-R, was also responsible for the R34 GT-R. He said that the next model will be a big leap over the R34. He used the examples of Ferrari going from the 355 to the 360, and Porsche moving up to the 996 after the 993, and said that 'we must make an even bigger leap.'

At the very least, the handling aspect of the GT-R's performance should be covered. The Infiniti G35 sedan(V35 Skyline GT350 sedan in Japan) was recently tested, and reached .90g on a skidpad, which is around the same as an R34 GT-R if I'm not mistaken. Note that the G35 sedan uses the narrow track variant of the FM platform the GT-R will be based on.
Additionally, the Skyline GT350 Coupe(CPV35 Infiniti G35 Coupe in US) actually outslalomed the R34 GT-R. If the performance of these lower level offerings are any indication, the GT-R will be just fine.

For the 2003 season of the JGTC, Nissan used VQ30DETT engines to power their R34 GT-Rs. The engine produced over 485ps(~478hp), and 75kg-m(~542lb-ft), althought the motor was pretty much limited by the GT500 class' 500hp cutoff point. Since the VQ is roughly half the length of the RB, so it could be placed behind the front axle, making the R34 GT-Rs 'front mid-engined' cars. The engine placment and choice made many improvements. Drivers reported that handling had improved drastically. Weight also decreased by ~200lbs, so ballast could be placed elsewhere for better weight distribution. Nissan went on to win both the manufacturer's and driver's championships for 2003.

The VQ in the upcoming GT-R will probably be bigger than just 3L. The VQ30 used in the JGTC is probably capable of much more, consdering there are VQ30-powered Maximas that produce roughly the same power on stock motors. There is speculation about a VQ32(VQ35 bore, VQ30 stroke) or a VQ33(VQ35 stroke, VQ30 bore) being used.

Right now, there's no telling what the designation will be. Some say that the 'V' comes from the new VQ engine, but Nissan's designations aren't based on the engine. Take the 350/Fairlady Z as an example. It has a new VQ engine, as opposed to the previous VG, but still uses the 'Z' designation. The R30 Skylines even used FJ-series 4-bangers.

The following is my personal theory on the chassis designation: The 'V' letter was probably created just for the Skyline. Nissan would have needed a new designation for the Skyline, since it was supposed to be separated from the GT-R name. I have a hunch that the 'R' is being kept in reserve for the GT-R.

oi_boy
03-13-2004, 11:58 PM
the g35 is not a skyline r35. the g35 coupe is a VERY similar car to the skyline V35...so similar that they have the exact same body style. the few differences that there are, is the power, and the g35 is lhd and the skyline is the rhd....everything they are the same...but as to the skyline r35 being out, its not yet.

azn-pos-5-3-1
04-12-2004, 01:02 AM
isn't it called the v35??

azn-pos-5-3-1
04-12-2004, 01:06 AM
bah....i'm really confused now....so if i get a g35 coupe....is it the same as the v35 coupe?? and wat about the v35 350GT.........wat's the diff??

aznxthuggie
04-12-2004, 01:40 PM
bah....i'm really confused now....so if i get a g35 coupe....is it the same as the v35 coupe?? and wat about the v35 350GT.........wat's the diff??

well if u get the g35 coupe, you'll have a nissan skyline 350gt, pretty nice huh?!?! but if u have $35000 for the g35, it wouldnt' hurt to put that for a down payment for the gtr in a few years, (hey it'll be worth the wait)

azn-pos-5-3-1
04-12-2004, 10:19 PM
hehehe...guess so...isn't that comin' out 2007? 3 yrs....we'll see how that comes out...=D

TakimotoRacing
04-14-2004, 09:48 PM
R35 GTR will have a VQ33DETT 3.3 Liter Twin Turbo V6 based on the FM platform (NOT the old Skyline platform OR straight-six steel reinforced block format) in AWD format whereas the G35/350GT has an N/A VQ35DE 3.5 Liter V6 in RWD form only, while the Japanese Skyline (US G35 sedan and coupe, although only the Sedan will have the AWD option) has a RWD or AWD configuration. Note that the old RB series engines from the R32, R33, and R34 series engines steel reinforced block is long gone, in favor of the mass-produced VQ series aluminum engine. AWD GTR version will retain the typical twin-turbo setup but on a much larger engine in the V configuration. FM platform is shared by G35 (Skyline) CPE and SDN, 350Z(Fairlady Z) as well as some of Nissans smaller SUV's. In my opinion Nissan shouldve kept the RB26DETT R34 Skyline GTR and RB26DE Skyline GTS and sold them stateside, they already have so many damn FM platform cars out... In any event, my opinion is that the G35 Coupe is awesome looking, but it couldve used the 350Z taillights. Ive seen a short video of the new GTR and its OK, but i like the G35 better.

VQuick
04-15-2004, 12:33 PM
In my opinion Nissan shouldve kept the RB26DETT R34 Skyline GTR and RB26DE Skyline GTS and sold them stateside, they already have so many damn FM platform cars out...

The RBs don't meet Japan's emission standards anymore. They never met emissions regs in the US. On top of that, it would have cost too much development money for Nissan to reposition the turbos to convert a GT-R to LHD.

The FM platform works well enough that the CPV35 Skyline GT350 Coupe can already outslalom the R34 GT-R. The next GT-R will be even better. Why not stick with what works?

TakimotoRacing
04-15-2004, 05:25 PM
I am aware of that, however I think Japan should have made a special concession for the Skyline series because i said so, same with U.S. emissions regulations including and allowing RHD's.

VQuick
04-16-2004, 02:20 PM
I am aware of that, however I think Japan should have made a special concession for the Skyline series because i said so, same with U.S. emissions regulations including and allowing RHD's.

Well, 'because you said so' isn't a really good reason for something so costly. :lol:

khfromhb
05-07-2004, 11:01 PM
ok every one the new r35 is going to have a V8 for the japanize model for sure because the emissions laws are getting soo tight. as to whether the us g35 will have one, it may; but it definetly wont be a turbo because nissan wont be developing turbo engines anymore, sorry.

aznxthuggie
05-07-2004, 11:36 PM
ok every one the new r35 is going to have a V8 for the japanize model for sure because the emissions laws are getting soo tight. as to whether the us g35 will have one, it may; but it definetly wont be a turbo because nissan wont be developing turbo engines anymore, sorry.
you bring up a thread that is a month old, with misleading information that you just assumed off the back of your head, you have no links or research to prove what you just said, and nissan is still developing turbo engines, if you even do your research you will know that in the jgtc gt500 class the supras use v8s and the skylines/z's use twin turbo 3.3 liter v6 engines, and you can search and look up those facts

and you spelled japanese wrong :rofl:

VQuick
05-08-2004, 05:47 PM
ok every one the new r35 is going to have a V8 for the japanize model for sure because the emissions laws are getting soo tight.

Okay. What Nissan V8 will it be? The VH45DE? The VH41DE? The VK45DE? The VRH35L? If emissions regs are so bad, how can Toyota, Subaru and Mitsubishi get away with using turbo engines?

as to whether the us g35 will have one, it may;

No, it won't. That is what the bigger Infiniti M45 is for.


but it definetly wont be a turbo because nissan wont be developing turbo engines anymore, sorry.

The G35 won't have a turbo engine because it is the entry level Infinti and is doing just fine normally aspirated. It doesn't need a turbocharged engine.

Like aznxthuggie said, Nissan is already using turbo VQs in the JGTC. Turbo VQs have already been used in production cars for several years. Cosworth is already working on a stronger version of the VQ motor for use in the GT-R.

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