I am having an argument with a friend of mine about cars. He loves anything with the Benz name on it and refusing to think anything else matters. I said to him, u know i would take a Skyline GTR over any benz any day( he is refering to the SLK32AMG). So we argured about them, so i take it to you guys, what do u think Skyline or SLK32AMG?
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Both are great cars and both are totally different machines you just can't compare! I like them both but I would go for the Skyline also because there're plenty of SLK's driving around (I even spotted the AMG version once) but to own a Skyline is something awesome and unique.
Imagine the reaction:
SLK - Hmmm nice car
Skyline - Whoooaaaa! Can I touch it?! I will not wash my hand for the next year! :D

Damn what is he thinking? I'm sorry but this benz is a damn fast car but it lacks soul and a good suspension (stiffer...). And a stick trans. And engine sound. And a bmw emblem... ;) ... merc wants to change company image but it won't come that fast... Anyway maybe i'll get flamed for that but i think SLK is a girls car. And i see mostly women driving SLKs. Ever seen a women a skyline? Damn i have seen only one skyline in my life... no , no two of them , one in Hong Kong and one in London , but this one in London it was quite far away and going rather fast but i spotted him , i don't know who was driving...

Skyline- high 12's
SLK- mid 13's

I like the SLK body style better tho:bandit:

Well, the Skyline (R34) wins hands down here, It is a "Whoa can I tocuh your car, I will not wash my hand for a year" car. I tihnk it looks really good and would smoke an SLK32 anyday, mind you the SLK is a good car. The Skyline is a GREAT car though.

Tom_S8 is right, the SLK has never really been the involving drive it should have been, a little spongy.One thing i must disagree on is it needing a BMW badge!!!BMW are going rapidly downhill, especially after the joke of a new 7 series and its reliability problems. You should be loyal to Audi, not their main rivals!!;) BTW i had the oppurtunity to have a good look at an S8 at an auction, and i gotta say you are damn lucky to own one.

HOLD ON! Did I jsut see someone say they would take a Skyline over any Benz? Mate you need a reality check! Renntech SL 7.4 584Bhp, 0-60mph 4 seconds flat (factory claims). CLKGTR, I dont even need to explain that one! CLK55, no introduction needed! the list goes on of Benzss that would waste a Skyline, I'm saying this because you said "over any Benz any day". IMO its a pretty bad comparison in the begining! a 2 door convertible sportscar against a 2 door coupe "supercar". 1963 Benz SEL300 6.3, 300Hp, 0-100kmp/h in 6 seconds, and thats a 60s luxury heavy arse car with RWD and no engine assistance (turbo/blown)

actually i would take a Skyline GT-R over any Mercedes bar the CLK-GTR. Something alot of people dont realise on here is that straight line speed is one of the worst indicators of performance.

I know straight line speed isn't everything, but are you saying a CLKGTR has bad handling, have you driven one? All we can base that off is what the testdrives say about it, and I think for that type of car it would have pretty damn good handling. Straight line speed isn't one of the worse indicators of performance, I would call performance being blown away by a cars ability to brake, handle, acceleration, speed etc You can't say pure acceleration isn't a good sign of performance.


"One day i will have my R34,just like this one, only mine will be over 1000bhp" And what are you planing to do with that much HP, I would say...STRAIGHT LINE SPEED.


you don't need 1000Bhp for performance, you could get performance out of a set of hydraulics :flipa:

i dont see how you can even compare a clk-gtr to a skyline r34. just compare the freakin prices. the clk-gtr should win hands down in EVERY MOTHER FREAKIN CATEGORY for the price you'd have to pay for one. now let's say you had a skyline and spent as much money for the clk-gtr modifying it.......then that would be a different story......what would you do to your skyline w/ an extra $900,000+????

I didnt say a CLK-GTR has bad handling, it is my absolute favourite car, and i believe it is the best handling and fastest point to point road car in the world with the possible exceptions of the Porcshe 911 GT1 and Dauer 962. However the Skyline is my second favourite car, and it is an extremely quick car. You can have a fast straight line car (e.g the many monster horsepower cars in the US) but nearly none will be able to go round a corner well at all. Now there are many very big horsepower Skylines in Japan that can also handle well. And i would say 600-700 bhp is the most needed for a track car, ant more and it will require serious work to get it to handle.

I love the skyline, but you can't compare it to an MB. Look at the skyline. You don't say "whoa! that's truly a piece of art. look at those lines.." you say "whoa! that is a fast little f##ker! have you had it on the track?"

Me? If I could choose, I would have taken the Mercedes any day. :cool:

You guys...The SLK32 is faster than the Skyline in terms of drag racing. R34 in stock form runs 13.7 sec in the 1/4 whereas the SLK32 runs high 12's. Two very different cars. As for the little "kid" that said he will take a Skyline over any Benz? You probably never own a Benz, and I am not surprised. Just to name a few: C32AMG, SLK32AMG, E55AMG (476hp), CLK55AMG, SL55AMG (500hp), S55 (500hp), S600 (500hp) all can cream the Skyline in the straights. Read a little about these cars before you make a comment like that.

Skyline is a great car no questions, but the "ricer" or racer image kill it for me. Why do you think Nissan did not bring it to the US? Who would pay $80K for a car like that? If I want a 1st class GT, I will take the M3 in stead. Keep the $30K in my bank account and wait for the EVO 8 to come.

most of you dont understand the greatness of the GT-R. Its all very good having your S-class at nearly 500bhp, but you will never get it to 1000bhp as easily as you will a Skyline, and it will certainly never handle aswell. On the drag strip it will launch faster than any normal Mercedes with a few simple destrictive tuning steps. Any Mercedes is more refined than the GT-R, but only the CLK-GTR is as fast, and if you tune a Skyline, this can be changed. The Skyline is deserving of it's legendary status, it rewrote the rule books with its dominance. And remember the price you pay in the US is much higher than what you would pay elsewhere. If it were sold at the same price as it was elsewhere they would be everywhere. Even in Japan, when the Nur versions were released, all 1000 of them were sold on the first day, there is a reason for that. As a fast car, it is far superior to most cars on the road.

these two cars are incomparable. Ill tell you guys the truth-i love them both. but if i had a choice between the two it would be the skyline. I think that its a question of what your into-with looks aside (both cars are beautiful) the skyline is a sports car enthusiasts dream where the MB is a beefed up version of a car that was originally intended for cruising areound top down. I mean common, the slk 32 amg doesnt even come with a manual transimission. If i were to be given a choice it would be the skyline, maybe because of the cars exclusive sports car heritage.

Everyone has their personal preference on the two and that's cool. Most of us in the states rarely see a skyline on the streets. We have a couple of them in Rowland Hts imported by MotorRex. So, I can understand how it has become a dream car for many. In Japan, I feel it's a different story. For the week, I was there, I saw a few Skylines. A few GT-Rs, but most are based models. I also saw a few AMG Benzs there, which I am sure in Japan cost more than the GT-R. Having say all that, both cars are nice and targeted at different group of people.

This is a comparison of a luxury sports coupe (the slk) with what is considered in Japan to be Godzilla (that's the nickname of the skyline over there). This comparision has nothing in common. Yes, you could go aftermarket for both the mercedes and the nissan. In the end the GT-R would have more hp, and be more of an icon than the merc. Its also very tru that the CLKGTR is an INSANE car, hell it shouldn't even be called a car. But now your comparing a pure bred race car, to a production car. Oh, and don't forget about the price difference. Overall, IMHO i would get the skyline. Why you might ask? Because i live in the U.S., i've seen about 4 skylines in my lifetime, and they are the automotive icon of all the asian car companies. (i'm asian, and i would like to represent if you don't mind).

I know that all of you have said that straight line performance isn't the best way to measure the overall abilities of a car, but I want to say that the benz is as fast and probably faster than the skyline.

Benz

0-60-4.8
quarter-13.2-13.5
faster from 1-100 than a corvette by about 2 to 3 seconds

Skyline (nur version that i read about in road and track when they said that it would be discontinued, rx-7 sprint is in the same article)

0-60-either 4.8 or 5.1
quarter-in road and track it said 14.2, but i think it is probably 13.6-13.9

now i'm not saying that i wouldn't take a skyline, but what i am saying is that one should give credit to the benz. Just becasue it is more common doesn't mean that it is a bad car. In fact, the benz also costs a lot less than a skyline, but i would take the skyline over the benz anyday becaue of its heritage and handling. i don't want to get flammed by those convinced that the skyline is the best car in the world becasue i agree that it is a great car.

Parting thought

sorry

Parting thought

If one had $80,000 they could buy an unwarrented skyline GT-R(motorex-us importer- might have a warrenty, but not sure) with 276 horepower and 276 lb of torque (many feel that the hp figure is closer to 300 or 320). Maybe they would buy a Dodge Viper (500 hp, 520 lb of torque) that can be bought for the same money and deliver better permformance, or maybe they will buy a Porsche 911 (320 hp, around 296 lb of torque). Some may even buy an M3 and spend the extra $30,000 on aftermarket parts to make it go faster than any stock skyline can go. Finally, maybe someone will buy a Mercedes SLK32 AMG and spend the extra $30-25, 000 on handling components because they want their benz to hande like the skyline. Even though the skyline is very rare it doesn't mean its the best car for the money, but if it were officially imported to the US i fel it would make more sense to buy one (dedicated dealer network, parts are easier to find , cheaper to find, etc.)

Originally posted by gti1689
f one had $80,000 they could buy an unwarrented skyline GT-R(motorex-us importer- might have a warrenty, but not sure) with 276 horepower and 276 lb of torque (many feel that the hp figure is closer to 300 or 320). Maybe they would buy a Dodge Viper (500 hp, 520 lb of torque) that can be bought for the same money and deliver better permformance, or maybe they will buy a Porsche 911 (320 hp, around 296 lb of torque).

It's not about how much car/price you getting. Hell, IMO the corvette Z06 is the best car/price (you get the most from what you paying). About 50k ish and you get a car that'll SMOKE a LOT of cars that are fixed up. But its a vette.... not a skyline. There's a difference. If i had that 80k, yes i would buy the skyline before a porsche or viper. I might get burned by a porsche, viper, or Z06, but it is my satisfaction of knowning that I own a rare mechanical beast (in the U.S.). Sure it might have only 270 (yea right.. more like 320) horsepower, but it also has ALTESSA-ETS (i think that's how you spell it) drivetrain controller, making the car either a 4wd or a Rwd. It's because of the small things i would by a skyline, plus.... i had 80k to blow on a skyline... i should have 50k to blow fixin it up.

Now, if you were too look outside the United States... i don't know if this is true... so people outside the US please enlighten me... the price of the benz (which is faster in the straight line) is slightly more than that of the skyline. So, going back to your car/price, the skyline is very competitive outside of the united states.

overall both are great cars.... I'LL TAKE BOTH ANY DAY!

I also agree that the skyline is a great car and I would buy one if I had the money. In europe I would buy a skyline becasue of its avalability and competitive price, but until the R35 comes to America the car will alsways be at a disadvantage for people without the financial means. If you noticed I said that many people feel that the skyline has close to 300 or 320hp in my post.

Skyline all the way!

Lets see....

Awesome tuning potential
Great styling
4WD a bonus
Great stock performance
Excellent engineering features in the skyline - 50:50 weight balance, ATTESSA-ETS, Super HICAS Pro
Isnt no girly car like the SLK

Originally posted by av2
Skyline is a great car no questions, but the "ricer" or racer image kill it for me....Keep the $30K in my bank account and wait for the EVO 8 to come.

Skyline has too much of a ricer image and the Evo doesn't? :confused:

What it seems like everyone is forgetting (as often happens) is that performance (acceleration, speed, handling, braking, etc etc) is not the only aspect of a car. If I had a gazillion dollars than maybe I could spend $50k or $80k on one of these as a performance-only-drive-it-once-in-a-while car...but I don't have a gazillion dollars. I need the car to be livable, fun on the weekends, but able to drone along in traffic every morning and afternoon, go get the groceries, impress a girl I'm taking on a date (lumpy idles and rock hard suspension aren't typically their thing ;)). Having said that, I would appreciate a car that a. Has a warranty and dealers to service it, b. Won't kill my left foot on the drive to and from work every day, c. Convertible preferably, to enjoy the open air, d. nice stereo to cruise to, plus many more. Therefore, the Benz is more my type of everyday car.

i would take them both. they are different cars. i would use the amg 32 as a daily driver and the r34 as a weekend racer. yep both great cars. i own a slk myself and i would never give it up for a rice rocket for a daily driver. and with a little supension set up the slk handles very well.

myyellowslk.. please don't called the skyline a "rice rocket". It is just as good of a "rocked" as the AMG... just w/o the rice. It is the epitome of japanese sports car enginnering, as is the AMG for german small roadsters. (IMO the SL is NOT a small roadster, and the M roadster doesn't even compare with the SLK32 AMG).

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your right about the skyline being a rice rocket. let me re state that i would consider the skyline in the japanese supercar. But what are you talking when you put in the stuff about the M roadster and the SL?

i was saying that the SLK32 AMG is THE BEST small roadster out there. The BMW "equivalent" M roadster doesn't seriously compare to the AMG in all factors (handling, speed, acceleration, etc). And Mercedes' other roadster the SL class is not considered a SMALL roadster, but rather as a LARGE roadster. Therefore, the SLK32 AMG is the best small roadster money can buy, in my opinion.

i would take the AMG. looks good, faster than the stock skyline. most important, checks know that it's a M.B

I think I might be able contribute here. My uncle was visiting my family this past summer. He brought his SL55 AMG. (The most amazing car I've ever had the privilege of driving) After driving it I was bragging to all my friends. One of my friends was not buying the whole "Best Car Ever" and proceded to bring up his brother's Skyline. After an argument that lasted all night I was able to line up a race between the two. My uncle would not let me drive but said if I really wanted him to he would drive it against the Skyline. I can't speak to the quality of the Skyline or it's driver, but the SL55 beat it soundly. Now the price tag on the SL55 AMG is alot more than the Skyline, assuming the 80,000 I saw earlier was correct for the Skyline. But if this is an argument of MB vs. Nissan, I'd have to bring up the SLR. Can't beat it.

god this is an old thread :D

to answer the original question now, i will still say if pure performace is what you are looking for the skyline is the car for you. AMG's have big power certainly, and with $$$ the RB26 can be made untouchable (Mercedes cant find a gearbox strong enough at the moment). That is before we even start on the handling of the 2 tonne barge's with AMG badges on the back :D:D

All that said, i doubt many people REALLY buy a Mercedes for its performance, and i doubt many buy a Skyline for its luxury and prestige