650 hp, 6.0 V12...blah, blah blah...here it is(?)
http://www.ferrariownersclub.co.uk/happenings/images/F60-3sd.jpg (http://www.ferrariownersclub.co.uk/happenings/images/F60-3.jpg)

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Oh, I almost forgot.....:eek2:

:huh:
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Damn . . . imagine THAT in Ferrari Red . . .!!!

NO WAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

That car has Le Mans written all over it. I would like to see it compared to Toyota's TS020 or Audi's RS8 (?).

I'm kinda tired of those taillights, though. I hope the wing blends in well.

MUAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!
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It's going to be mine!!!! MUAHAHAHAHAHA

Fine! Have it . . . I'll take the Modena in the background . . .
;)

Ill take the f-60!

Yep...F60 for me too.

I almost hope they don't add a wing. I think the rear end does need some more work, but I'm just not too big on wings. I'm more impressed with a car like the 360 that can produce enough downforce without one, and they often look like tacky-addons (not too often in Ferrari's case)(I take that back...never in Ferrari's case:D).

I hope they do add the wing, otherwise it looks like it has 2 vertical stabilizers. I alos think the front is kind of cool, looks like a mix between 360 and F40.:)

Ferrari can never do wrong!!!!!!!!! I agree, Enzo, I dont like the fins. They need to make them a little less palpable... Thats my point of view though...

I don't think the fins look too bad. But maybe that's my bias setting in. I think it would look much better the get rid of them though, maybe by utilizing a built in spoiler (ala F40, F50) or simply smooting it out or something. But, if this is the F60, I will be very satisfied...especially with the what, 650hp?

I just want to see them race it. For 24 hours:flash:

It's going to be a road car though, I'm sure they can probably race it though.

where's the spoiler?

Well, the lack of a spoiler is somewhat strange, but it does make sense. Ferrari has never really used spoilers. We think of the F cars carrying massive spoilers, but in the long run, better aerodynamics are more efficient. That said, I shall quote the great Enzo...

"Aerodynamics are for people who can't build engines"

Wow, I never knew he said that. I guess the 360 is a shitty car then! :D

I believe the F60 isn't even supposed to break 200mph, because it's being made for downforce.

Well....the 360 still has a killer engine...one which would make Enzo really glad, and one which makes Enzo@af really happy:D

What's the point of so much downforce if it ain't going past 200? So you can drink you coffee?

Perhaps because this is a road car. Not too many times will the driver be going 200+ on the road, but I'm sure 100-150 will be frequent (especially on the audobahn), so stability at those speeds is probably something quite desirable.

That being said, I don't believe that it won't break 200mph. I know it's plausible, but there are bragging rights that need to be upheld.

I hope it ends up being more like the F40. I was (comparitively) quite disappointed with the F50, it's like Ferrari realized the popularity of the F40 and tryed to capitalize on style and image rather than pure driving excitement. The F40 is purposeful, it even looks it. The F50 seems made more for sitting in museums and for rich snobs to be seen in. Especially how it's open topped, hard tops usually handle much better than open topped cars. I hope the F60 is more a purpose built car and not an image car.

Gull wing doors! I disaprove....and after all, I am the ultimate authority.

Gullwing doors? Who mentioned gullwing doors? What do you disapprove of? The whole car, or gullwing doors?

it doesn't look like it..IMO it looks WAY too 90s ish... you'd think that they would make it look like the 360modenaish... not curvy enough.. a little more curves, bigger headlights, more MODERN and not older looking, (i'm talking about the flatness and sharp lines)...

you know what I'm talking about?

OK, you are forgetting that that is a heavily disguised mule. The 50's style fins are probably to disguise it, make it harder to guess what it will look like. ANd you can see the underbody diffuser exiting at 2 points out the rear, just like a 360 and every new racing car. 650 hp sounds right, from a NA V12 probably. 200 mph will be breached (bragging rights). THe downforce allows you to go faster, numb-nuts. Think about it: You're headed into a tight curve, going 120 mph. You go to turn, teh wheels slip liek they were on ice, you crash, roll, burn, die. Now you add some downforce, you make the turn, leave it at 105, and away you go. Even if you don't crash, you have to slow down to 80 to make the turn. Which makes more sense???
Have you ever driven at 185+ mph??? Neither have I, but I can imagine it is scary (fun) as hell. The last thing you want is to have to worry about the wheels leaving the ground (especially the front), or pushing down with insufficient force to turn. DOWNFORCE IS IMPORTANT!!!
This new F60 shouldn't have a wing or fins, bu tit will be the rootinnest-tuttinest Ferrari of modern days, maybe ever (performance wise, it will be, but that isn't hte only factor).
I can't wait, it will be awesome!

PS, I wonder how it will compare to the Bugatti 16/4 Veyron?? How will their philisophies mingle, and which is better??

WOAH, numb nuts your self. Down force gives you stability at high speeds. Sure it lets you sustain high speeds around turns and what not, but it does not give a higher top speed. I reiterate, numb nuts. Wings and spoilers make downforce, they also make drag.

Got it, jerky? :rolleyes:

Yes, I'm sorry. When I wrote that I had just finished trying to explain downforce to my friends.
I phrased it bad (the way I did it kinda worked for my friend)
Ok, here goes:
Downforce makes you go faster on a road cours. On ovals, to much is bad, but you need some. In a straight line, downforce is bad.

Sorry 'bout that.

Anyway, cant some wings make you go faster by letting the air go past easier?? It needs to be subtle, maybe even just a lip spoiler.

To be honest, I would personally prefer a more stable 180mph supercar than a less stable car that could reach upwards of 200. There is no way that I, in a road car, would even reach 180. Maybe if I went to the audobahn, things would be different. However, if I'm in my priceless Ferrari, I want to be stuck to the ground! Furthering this need for downforce, if I take it to a track, unless it's a pretty damn straight track, downforce will only help my times by allowing faster corners, later braking, and all that good stuff. Not too many tracks have excessive straights where 200+ mph spees are THAT beneficial.

But, I won't at all be surprised if the car has a blend of both...200+ mph speeds with the downforce to keep it planted to an upside-down road. FERRARI RULES!

Yeah, in the American grand Prix, they had lots of downforce to go fast in the twisties, but sacrificed speed on the straight.
This car will be awesome.:D

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Looks like a wing is in the plans.

Adding a wing does not let air go by easier. Air would only go by easier if there was no wing at all. Wings add drag, it doesn't matter has smooth and aerodynamic it is.

PS
Sorry about the numb-nuts... ;)


:)

Don't worry about it.

If they add a wing, it will have tons! of downforce. And I'm almost sure that a lip spoier will let the air go by on top, and not 'tumbe' around the rear of the car (picking up leafs and such). I'll try to find the article (its old, and I may be remembering incorrectly)

The finished car pic is a phot-shopped pic, right?? Anyway, I don't read Italian, bu tI got the just of it (I guess French pays off. Probably that some words are almost the same in English)

THAT looks a little better... I guess the paint helps.. but it still is too boxy for modern Ferraris.. like the F40, but smaller...

Wow! Those done-up pics make it look really slick. Now I can't wait to see what they end up with! :)

note to self: ask for days off now for car show in January

Enzo I think Ill buy one when they come out... You want one? I better get on the waiting list soon...

I got my AutoWeek today. They report that it may actually carry the name "Enzo."

No way! I personally don't think it'l happen.
When they were thinking of making it, tehy contacted a lot of Ferrari collectors/ buyers. SO the whole lot is probably almost sold out already. But if they lease like the F50, they will be out for everyone soon.

Come to think of it, it does just look like a compressed F50. I din't like the fact that they used F50 rims in the design also. as for comparison against the Eb 16/4, I don't think power and speedwise, there will be too much. The Eb 16/4 has 1001 HP and a projected top speed of 406 km/h, enough to smoke the F60 in a speed race. But I think like Heep and Chris were saying earlier they might make the F60 able to take high Speed turns and have excellant handling, not top-end Speed.

And lets not forget the price difference. And ability to get one (only 50 Bugatti's)
I wonder what they will both be like, and if a magazine will ever have the chance to test the two head-to-head. THAT would be interesting.

Originally posted by Silver S2000
I got my AutoWeek today. They report that it may actually carry the name "Enzo."

Woohoo! Damn, I guess they really like me! I'm famous! Hey, maybe they'll give me one...or two! Yeah, right.

Anyhow, the comparison between the F60 and Bugatti is hard right now because we don't know what's up with the F60....will it have a high top speed, great handling through downforce, blah blah blah...however, the Bugatti is just a beast. I imagine it will just be a trophy car, basically undriveable. Too much damn horsepower and torque, and I'm guessing it's pretty heavy too. I imagine handling will be awful, but straight line performance will be FAST (duh).

I take the F60 for "overall driver experience".

I think the Bugatti will be better. Piech is determined to have the best car in the world. I don't think it will be hairy, just fast, and scary if you're not an experienced driver. We'll just have to wait and see what both of them end up like.

And the waits gonna be a killer:(

Found the article on spoilers. It is in the September 1998 Car and DRiver, from pages 147-153. The lip spoiler is on page 150. Teh pic seems to show it negating lift and drag. I will read the article and post more tommorrow.

Seems to? I want to see the article, the m.ore surface area, the more drag, not matter what

Well, spoilers work like an upside down airplane wing, whereas an airdam and side skirts keep air from getting under the car (thus negating lift, and even producing downforce).

Why do we need to read articles on it? What's the question that people have? It's all basically just simple physics and aerodynamics.

Oh, Chris, you're totally right about the Bugatti being a better car...for the experienced driver. However, I think the Veyron will be sold to the Bill Gates of the world, not the Alex Zanardis. Thus, I would personally prefer the Ferrari because...well...I could (?) drive it. 650 hp at my disposal is a lot more feasible than 1000+ (with a huge amount of torque).

But, I'm really not sure how the two will fair as track cars. Like I said, I think the Bugatti will be too heavy to really be a great handling car (which I'm SURE the F60 will be one of the greatest).
My predictions
Oval Track: Bugatti, hands down.
Curvy, country roads: F60

My point exactly. No F1 driver is going to get a EB 16/4, look at it for God's sake! It dosen't look like something you would drive around somewhere. No, It belongs in a garage with hundreds of other neglected cars that people buy because they can. If I could et one, I would beat the hell out of it and put 100,000 miles a year on it. No point in have a car that you don't drive. It under my philosophy that "You only live Once"

I hate to say it, but, IMO, that air dam is the ugliest I've seen in a long time.

Those cars could NEVER reach 100k miles. They are too much power for their own good.

Yeah, the more I think about it, the Bugatti is simply a trophy car. The EB110 was a great track car, but I really really think the Veyron won't be.

The F40 and F50 were both great track cars (even though it can be said that the F50 was more of a stylish car than a performance car), so it figures that the F60 will be too.

Actually a wing is the airfoil. A spoiler is a 'lip' at the back of the car. Any sporting car has one. It reduces lift and decreases drag. It is an excellent aero-dynamic aid. A wing takes undisturbed air, increasing drag. A spoiler takes air that the car has already affected, and lets it leave easier, decreasing drag and lift.

I read the article TWICE, by the way. Air dams and skirts are good all around also.

That seems strange....decreasing drag over the top of the car, would seem like it would likewise allow air passing over the top to move faster, which would cause lift.... I guess it's not just simply aerodynamics.

D'oh, I got spoiler and wing mixed up.

;)

I will read it again and post a longer reply.OR YOU could GO to the LIBRARY, and check up on the magazine. If you don't want to, I will have it up soon. Maybe.

Chris, You sound like you know what your all im going to ask is: Is a car's spoiler the same or similar to that of an aircraft? If so, it increases drag and decases lift, to slow the plane down and disrupt airflow causing less lift. Thw wing on a car (You were right Chris) does decrease lift and decrease drag. It (enzo) does allow air to move faster, but on a car, the wing is inverted so it produces faster moving air (Negative Pressure or Lift) on the other side pulling the car down instead of trying to lift it up.

Yes, I know how a wing (which I have always just called a spoiler) works....the air moves faster on the underside, creating downforce....

The point is that by adding a spoiler, you are increasing overall drag (more surface area). The point of a spoiler is putting more drag "on top" and less "on the bottom" (of the wing, or the overall car in general). The phrase "decreasing drag and lift" seems completely contradictory to me.

A spoiler can add drag (porsche 911 turbo, the 'whale tail' years).
A spoiler works on the Coanda effect. That is, air (or any gas or liquid) flows along like the surface it was on. Therefor, on a car, it goes DOWN the back, meeting the air from the bottom. This increses drag, but the air moving that way kinda (a little bit) decreases lift. Now, as far as I understand it, a spoiler causes the air to go up momentarily, flowing STRAIGT behind the car, not as much going down. This decreases drag. Now, the air UNDERNEATH the car has to come UP to the rear of the car, increasing the distance it has to travel, and therfor increasing speed and decreasing pressure going up (lift).
Now you see how it works. (they are in capitals just to highlight important stuff, not trying to make you look dumb. I have done that unintenially in the past:D )

That is a spoiler, the small 'lip' thing on the back of a car. It has nothing to do with aviation (actually, it does, but not for this reletively simple stuff)
A wing is a device that is an upside down airfoil. It decreases lift, but increases drag. If it is small enough, the drag will be slight. Sometimes it can actually decrease drag by letting the air out quicker and more efficiently. This all depends on a gazillion factors that are hard to understand.

Most magazines call small wings spoilers, which they are not.

Heres another example. On the 911 Turbo, it has a spoiler at first. Then it rises up into uninterupted air, in effect a wing. A true definition is hard to come by, as most people us the terms when they shouldn't.

A wing is a device that is an upside down airfoil. It decreases lift, but increases drag.

That's what I meant. I'm kind of relating it to airplanes. A Bi-plane has 2 wings (hence the name :p), which increase lift at low speeds, but create more drag, simply because the air hits the wing.

Well, that pretty much sums it up. I should have given a different example for spoiler. It's different on a plane. I also kinda get that thing with the F60. I saw "Le Mans" on the weekend and The ferrari's in the movie had "F60" tails. They weren't as big, but they must have served some purpose.

Oh, many cars call wings spoilers, for some reason. But then the line gets blurred, as many cars don't have effective wings.

But ALL cars now have spoilers. Look at the back of any car, I did today. From Fireflys to Minivans to corvettes to Ferrari 550's, all cars have them, because they work. Most aren't very defined though, but then they don't need to be.

Actually not all cars have spoilers. Maybe my G20 is unique, but I can't see one back there (even a subtle one). By the way, the F60 looks like the bat-mobile...really ugly. Sorry to all you that like it (my reply probably doesn't mean much) but Ferrari could have done much better. I hope the spy photos depict a car that is actually disguised. F355 and 360 are MUCH better looking cars!

:rolleyes: Other way around guys, if you have air moving quickly over the top of the car you have downforce. Higher air velocity equals higher air pressure (density) relative to the bottom of the car with lower velocity air and lower pressure. A wing on a car works the same way, it is a inverted airplane wing, fast air over the top and slow under, the reverse of a airplanes wing where air moves faster under the wing than over the wing to create lift.

just clearing things up :)

-Ian

Oh and spoilers are lips on the trunkdeck or sometimes on the top of the rear windshield, these work to aerodynamically "flatten" the top of the car to increase air speed over the top of the car lessening lift created by the nature shape of all cars. Airdams work in a similar way but on the bottom of the car, they block (dam) air from getting under the car and lowering the air pressure under the car, rear diffusers and special underbody design like on the 360 also helps with this. Wings are simply inverted airplane wings creating downforce; thats the main difference, wings actually produce downforce while spoilers attempt to "spoil" (lessen) the lift created by the shape of the car. (Which has the same cross-sectional profile as the common airplane wing.)

-Ian

ian840 needs to go back to grade 9 science. The faster the air, the lower the pressure. The slower the air, the higher the pressure.
Dont belive me?? Fine, put some straws flat on the table, put two pop cans standing up (empty) on the straws. Then blow between them. They will get sucked together.
This is why cars want to "fly" They are shaped like airplane wings (more or less)

Yes I stand corrected about air pressure, thats what happens when you try to explain something at 3am after being out all night at bars with your friends... hah... anyways here is a good page explaining airfoils, long but comprehensive.

http://www.amasci.com/wing/airfoil.html

-Ian

Originally posted by Chris
Fine, put some straws flat on the table, put two pop cans standing up (empty) on the straws. Then blow between them. They will get sucked together.
This is why cars want to "fly" They are shaped like airplane wings (more or less)

whoa, mr. experiment scientist!! :D :D :hehehe:

LOL :D

Hey, I'm getting 93 in Science!

But it is easy, and it proves the point.

Originally posted by Chris
Hey, I'm getting 93 in Science!


stop bragging!!!!!


i'm probably in like the 30s :rolleyes:

i gotta get to work

I'm only taking biology this year and i'm dropping all science next year, what the hell do i need science for?! i don't need it at all for business. I think all we need is 3 science credits

What grade are you in?? I only need grade 9 and 10.

Originally posted by Chris
What grade are you in?? I only need grade 9 and 10.

As do I. We got our Physics marks the other day, mine was a whopping 61.7% I practically flipped out at my teacher (Considering he said I had a 75%!) and i found out that he forgot to add like ten things to my opverall mark sheet. So my mark is actually like an 80-83%

I have physics next semester, its chemistry right now.

Do any Ontarioins here have University math?? Our class average is 59, but I have the second highest.

i take university/college math. We use the same text books as you the University math, the only thing different is that the teachers explain more and we don't do as many of the harder questions.... and i'm still failing my ass in that class too :mad:

I'm in gr.11
I'm pretty sure every student in Ontario needs atleast 3 science credits
you need gr9 and 10 science plus another one that could be like physics, biology, chemistry.... maybe some others too

Oh, I dont really care about those extra mandatory credits, I got them all. I'm in grade 11 too, kinda neat, huh.
Can't help but laugh that someone posted the literacy test on the net, though:hehehe:

yeah, hahaha

that pissed me off though!!! :angryfire
i didn't get to sleep in those days... so i skipped 1 of the days to show'em who's boss :D :D

LOL last year i missed like 150 classes, hahaha

that would add up to like a month off school, or more :D

If I misbehave in class and my parents find out, they go nuts!! They think if I get kicked out, I'm going to turn into bum. Oh well:rolleyes:

Originally posted by Chris
If I misbehave in class and my parents find out, they go nuts!! They think if I get kicked out, I'm going to turn into bum. Oh well:rolleyes:

are your parents nazis or something?!? :) holy strict... do you have a curfew?


btw, how'd you get all those credits if only 1 science is offered in gr 9 and 1 in gr 10?

I remember looking at the sheet, seeing what I needed to take. I was happy because I had everything I needed (this was when I planned my gr. 11 courses, if I fail one I may not have the mandatory ones)

Originally posted by gang$tarr
i take university/college math. We use the same text books as you the University math, the only thing different is that the teachers explain more and we don't do as many of the harder questions.... and i'm still failing my ass in that class too :mad:

I'm in gr.11
I'm pretty sure every student in Ontario needs atleast 3 science credits
you need gr9 and 10 science plus another one that could be like physics, biology, chemistry.... maybe some others too

Hehe I can relate to this, I'm also in Gr. 11.

I be taking (This semester)

University English: 80ish %
University not UC Math: 83 %
Physic: 80 ish %
Ancient History up to the 16th Century: Like a 98% I know my history.


I passed the Literacy test, I find it hilarious that someone put it on the net. I also never miss class (Intentionally) and also find Math to be very hard, If you care Chris or Gan$tarr, my current assignment in Math is Pg. 300. I also hate the new amrking system ( 1, 2, 3, 4, 4++) I hate it!

I also hate rubrics:mad:
My math is 79 (lasst year it was 94, last years highest was 98, shes getting 85 this year)
My other classes:
Chemistry: 93
Accounting: 95
Computer Engineering: 94

Next semester:
Physics, Law, English, Computer Science.

i hate you all....



get some bad marks, it won't kill you :)

have any of you guys failed classes?

btw my school isn't semestered so i take all 7 courses year round

I'm taking:

Marketing - pass
Accounting - pass
Entrepreneurial Studies - pass
U/C Math - fail
University English (easy) - pass
Biology (only because i gotta take a science) - unsure
Auto - pass (ofcourse :) )
Spare

those are my predictions :D

Originally posted by gang$tarr
have any of you guys failed classes?I have, in college. I like re-taking the class with the same teacher. :D I already know all the answers. :lol2:

Originally posted by jay@af
I have, in college. I like re-taking the class with the same teacher. :D I already know all the answers. :lol2:

it's good to know that somebody else has failed classes..... seems like everybody here is a grade A student :rolleyes: lol :D

My biggest incentive is that I want lots of money to buy..... Lots of cars!:)

Originally posted by Chris
My biggest incentive is that I want lots of money to buy..... Lots of cars!:)

you see, i think about that too... but i just can't bring myself to actually do the work, i'm too damn lazy

If school was only in school, then i'd be doing sooooo good
I just never do homework/assignments, stuff outta school

I hear ya gangsta....

hah im on here right now instead of reading economics...oh well :rolleyes:

Ian

During Comp. Eng, I'm usually here. I do that work at home (its easy, anyway, and wer get tons of time to do simple stuff)

i failed that class last year... you bastard :)
WORST CLASS EVER! logic gates, boolean algebera... all that circuit stuff :apuke:
it's the reason i have no computer classes this year, that class made me hate computers

i was doin good till half way through the year, when we switched teachers for some reason, and this teacher was a fuckin jackass, i ended up not goin to like the last month of that class

Man, our teacher is EASY!!
Since our school is being renovated, we cant do some stuff, so its mostly learning the written stuff. So I go to AF:)

Can someone remind me what this has to do with the F60?:p

Snowboarder927- Nice new sig picture:) I like your thinking;)

Well, this has to do with the F60 by

Thanks, i found the pic and added that last part. my friends brother got a blue WRX yesterday. i'm so jealous!

I thought that the F60 wasn't suppose to compete with the records, it isn't designed to be breaking records, but it is suppose to be a very entertaining ferrari. So yeah, the bugatti is a very fast with huge performance, but i think it don't handle as good on corners like it was said before. And I do remind me, that the F60 is getting a adjusting diffuser wich adjust its shape according to the speeds.

BTW, isn't a ferrari suppose to be a car, wich you can drive everyday to your work, and if you want to, take it to the track and with minimal adjustments to win the race, right?

Yup, they are meant to be race-cars for the street, although that has been lost in recent examples (456, 550, etc), with only a few being true to that example (360, F50, etc). The new F60 should be amazing, it should blow almost everything away.

I mean, put the F60 and Veyron on the Nurburgring and you must know who's gonna win...... but that's just not realistic cause both aren't tested yet

I cant wait until they're tested, it will be a very happy day for me:)

hmmmmmmmm i'm seeing a McLaren F1, a F40, F50, F60, Veyron and a Koenisseg ( what else did a forget ) on the Ring and let them race!!!

We already talked about his, and it would be awesome if someone could get all of them together. I think the 8 minute barrier would be broken on teh first lap!!

Originally posted by Da Hawxxx

BTW, isn't a ferrari suppose to be a car, wich you can drive everyday to your work,

Ferrari isn't known for their reliability :)

if you drive one everyday to work expect LOTS of repairs..... but the race car part is right :D

so you're from holland :) marijuana is legal there, that's cool :)

marijuana is legal there, that's cool

hell yeah :smoka:

Originally posted by gang$tarr
Ferrari isn't known for their reliability :)

if you drive one everyday to work expect LOTS of repairs not so my canadian friend. while i was at the Ferrari dealership for my birthday, i talked to the mechanic and he said that the only cars that they have to do major repairs on, are the ones that are never driven and only have 14 miles on them. those cars are made to be driven, and they'll give you a bugger of a time if you don't drive them how they want to be driven.

Anyone who owns old cars can tell you, if it sits too long, stuff just breaks. So drive it, keep all the parts moving and used, and it will work fine. Now, at least. In the past, it may have been different.

And lets not forget the 250 Ferraris. They were driven to places like LeMans, and the Tour de France. They raced, then drove home. Tell me one other car that can drive flat-out for 24 hours, then be driven home.

Ah the 250's. You could drive them to the track, annihilate the competition, then drive home. It doesn't get much better than that.

MBTN, i like your avatar and especially that pic in your sig, where did you get it?

Originally posted by snowboarder927
not so my canadian friend. while i was at the Ferrari dealership for my birthday, i talked to the mechanic and he said that the only cars that they have to do major repairs on, are the ones that are never driven and only have 14 miles on them. those cars are made to be driven, and they'll give you a bugger of a time if you don't drive them how they want to be driven.

ofcourse... if you just let a car sit for a long time the parts are gunna get bad, and it'll be a shock for the engine to run hard again
But if you just drive it on weekends that's fine, that keeps the parts moving enough... if you drove one every day, expect problems :) Not huge problems, but still costly

If you have enough money to buy a ferrari, why don't you drive it every day? :)

Originally posted by Da Hawxxx
If you have enough money to buy a ferrari, why don't you drive it every day? :)

cause you have other cars to drive :) If you're around a big city and you have to go to work in rush hour traffic, inching along at around 5mph you don't wanna be driving the Ferrari. Plus you'd be scared just parking it and leaving it... The weekdays are for the Rolls or Benz... hehe :D

any updates on the F60 yet?

Not that i know of, the last i heard from one of the guys at Ferrari was that it was going to be released early next year (this was in 2001) and that they haven't even decided on a name. the possible names were the F60, Enzo and the FX i think. but i'm pretty sure it will be called the F60.

notice, there's no huge wing on the rear

Notice how hideous it looks. I REALLY hope that isn't the F60.:(

no joking man. check ferrari.it

Maranello, April 16th 2002 – The design prototype of the Ferrari “FX” – this being the production code of this limited series model which carries on the tradition of the F40 and F50 – will debut at the “Artedinamica: Ferrari and Maserati at the Contemporary Art Museum of Tokyo” international Exhibition. The official inauguration will be on April 26th; from April 27th to July 14th the Exhibition will be open to the public.

The Ferrari FX, which will officially be presented at the Paris Auto Show on September 26th, will bring to the road Ferrari’s most advanced technology, directly derived from the Formula 1 World Championship experience. The FX represents the ultimate expression of technological transfer from F1 to Ferrari’s road-going GTs, the conception of which has always benefited.

FX OR F60?? http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?threadid=41666

hihihi, i was earlier, just joking

Originally posted by Da Hawxxx
notice, there's no huge wing on the rear
no?
http://files.automotiveforums.com/uploads/807875newferrari_2002.jpg

check the official foto, and that one is not the official press material

Originally posted by Da Hawxxx
hihihi, i was earlier, just joking
I post: 04-16-2002 09:09 PM :cool:
You post: 04-16-2002 12:10 PM :rolleyes:

ok wich topic was that, cuz i'm refering to this one http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/t41666.html
but anyways, the real 'FX' don't have a rear spoiler a seen on the official photo

Originally posted by Da Hawxxx
ok wich topic was that, cuz i'm refering to this one http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/t41666.html
but anyways, the real 'FX' don't have a rear spoiler a seen on the official photo
Huunnhh:rolleyes:
FX is this http://files.automotiveforums.com/uploads/641098FX_210.jpg
and
F60 is this?? http://files.automotiveforums.com/uploads/807875newferrari_2002.jpg
Or no?

Originally posted by Da Hawxxx
ok wich topic was that, cuz i'm refering to this one http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/t41666.html
but anyways, the real 'FX' don't have a rear spoiler a seen on the official photo
Ok,now, what you post FX in F60 Forum?

cuz it was rumoured te be called F60.........

Originally posted by Da Hawxxx
cuz it was rumoured te be called F60.........
ok,now i post one poll:cool:

:eek2: :eek2: :eek2: :eek2: :eek2: :eek2: :eek2: :eek2: :eek2: :eek2: :eek2: :eek2: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

that is all i have to say...and...where can i get one...



j/k

Originally posted by ZondaFreak02


...where can i get one...



j/k
One idea:
http://www.supercars.net/servlets/PW/garagePics/mini%20magic/9car1.jpg
HERE;)

WHOAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA.....thanks man :eek: :) :D

Dunno if you guys know this but the F60 also known as the FX now has its official name from Ferrari. The Car will be called "enzo ferrari" in tribute to ferraris founder. saying Ferrari enzo ferrari is kinda difficult though so its easy to call it the FERRARI ENZO:)


heres the old pic with the spec
0-100mph 6 seconds

http://www.enjoythemusic.com/ferrari/