THEY SAY IT IS DIFFERENT BUT IF U TOOK A F-150 GRILL ON IT THEN THERE IS A F-150 BUT THE ONLY DIFFERENCE IS THE ACCES CAB DOOR HANDLES

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That's rediculous. Turn off CAPS LOCK.

I agree that they look very similar. No one is disputing that.

The real differences are under the hood, and in the quality of production.

I don't think anyone is going to dispute that, either. :rolleyes:

Originally posted by Roadster2
THEY SAY IT IS DIFFERENT BUT IF U TOOK A F-150 GRILL ON IT THEN THERE IS A F-150 BUT THE ONLY DIFFERENCE IS THE ACCES CAB DOOR HANDLES

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You've obviously never driven a Tundra. Bronson is right. Syling may be similar but the F-150 doesn't come close to the quality.

sorry about the caps lock but anyways i have been in a Tundra and yes the engine and quality is different but i just meant the styling and still the F-150 has a better engine and better Quality

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That's nice that you think that. Now I bet you don't have any proof to backup your comments on either engine performance or vehicle quality. If you do, I'd love to hear it.

Originally posted by dogzpaws
That's nice that you think that. Now I bet you don't have any proof to backup your comments on either engine performance or vehicle quality. If you do, I'd love to hear it.

DOH!

I'd like to see any unbiased, methodologically-sound empirical data supporting your position as well.

Bronson

Originally posted by Bronson


DOH!

I'd like to see any unbiased, methodologically-sound empirical data supporting your position as well.

Bronson

I like how you play both sides of the fence. Why would you care given that you already have a Tundra? I happen to have data supporting my position on engine performance and quality. However, I wasn't the one stating in a Tundra forum that a Ford has better engine performance and quality. The burden of proof clearly falls upon the instigator of the argument. Based on this and previous posts, you don't seem to be getting the debate/argument/discussion thing. What school did you go to anyway?

Actually dogspaws, my response was meant to support yours, and the data request was directed at the Ford troll.

What makes you think I went to college?

Yes, I play both sides of the fence. I support you in some posts, but don't in others. I've supported your position in this thread, but not in the others.

Originally posted by Bronson
Actually dogspaws, my response was meant to support yours, and the data request was directed at the Ford troll.

What makes you think I went to college?

Yes, I play both sides of the fence. I support you in some posts, but don't in others. I've supported your position in this thread, but not in the others.

My apologies. I misinterpreted your thread. Given the recent slew of attacks against me that post appeared to be directed toward me as well. I'll try to be more careful next time.

well, this is my data, I own a ford mustang and i got 103k miles, my aunt has a ford f-150 with about 60 or so k miles, my uncle has a 97 land ctuiser with 60k and my other uncle has a toyota van with 325k, and a truck with 215k, both of his toyotas are perfect, only replacd the tranny in the van and nothing in the truck my uncles LC is perfect but it is rather new, mine is a P.O.S. and my aunts has its share of problems. NO WAY is ford better quality than a toyota. ISnt the tundra even cheaper than the POS f-150?

Originally posted by accordEXvtec
well, this is my data, I own a ford mustang and i got 103k miles, my aunt has a ford f-150 with about 60 or so k miles, my uncle has a 97 land ctuiser with 60k and my other uncle has a toyota van with 325k, and a truck with 215k, both of his toyotas are perfect, only replacd the tranny in the van and nothing in the truck my uncles LC is perfect but it is rather new, mine is a P.O.S. and my aunts has its share of problems. NO WAY is ford better quality than a toyota. ISnt the tundra even cheaper than the POS f-150?

Cost is a good point. I always hear people say that Tundras cost more. I just completed an analysis on the Ford and Toyota websites to compare comparably equiped vehicles (as of 1/28/02):

Ford F150 XLT Super Cab 4x4 4.6L V8 = $30,655 MSRP

vs.

Toyota Tundra SR5 Ext. Cab 4x4 4.7L V8 = $29,594 MSRP

Maybe Ford gives better deals out the door, I don't know. But the price looks pretty comparable to me. In fact, I got a fine deal on my Tundra.

Take a look at the side of the F150 cab. You'll not find a line that stays vertical. The cab door opening and the back of the cab body lines sweep forward near the bottom of the truck. Wierd looking. Vertical lines should stay vertical, not sweep horizontal.

You can't beat Tundras. Best truck out there, without question. I've never been happier with a vehicle than I am with my Tundra limited access cab 4x4. Later........

Hi, I'm not trying to step on any toes or anything but comparing a Toyota to a Ford is crazy. Toyota has one thing Ford, Chevy, and Dodge will never have, resale value! Not to mention all of you who own one has noticed, it rides like a Lexis with a bed in back.

Since I can't drive my Supra everyday I'm forced to drive my 2002 TRD Tundra SR5 Access Cab. Not a bad deal really. To the Ford men out there. Nice trucks true, but it'll never last as long as the Toyota, there is a reason for the high re-sale value. My friend bought his new F-150 the same time nearly that I got my truck. Since then both of our trucks have been absolutly abused which I am ashamed to admit. He has had nothing but problems with his truck. Everything from engine computers going out to his driver side door not working. I have yet to do anything put keep new oil in mine. Besides that he paid 36,000 for his and I paid 26,500 for mine...both were brand new.

When the 1997 F150 came out, I thought it looked like a big Toyota Tacoma.

this person is :screwy:
to drive a ford would be like :banghead:
you :loser:
what is he :smokin:
just my :2cents:

i've always liked fords, but i'd take the tundra over the f-150 any day

the ford trucks are nice to look at when they are lifted but as for performance i have to say that they lack certain ummph to their trucks.

Btw: i smoke f-150's all day in my 2002 sr5 v8 tundra :)

Roadster should be beaten! for saying the F Word

Roadster should be beaten! for saying the F Word

Oh man am i an idiot! i looked thru the entire thread for the F word that ends in a K. All i found was the one that ends in a D (and it's worse).

I would much rather have the tundra but my uncle has a 95 ford F350 crew cab long bed 4x4 with the 7.3 powerstroke turbo dsl. and its got 215k on it and still runs strong, no problems yet. but my other uncle has a 80's toyota with the 22r with 411k on it and uit still runs strong so... I am gonna vote for toyota, a guy I know down in mexico has just over 300k on his older non turbo deisel ford but it isnt running now, supposedly its just a freeze plug but he tried to just keep filling it and driving it so it got REAL hot so I dont think its gonna go much longer if any at all.

I bought a brand new 2000 F-150 with Off Road package. When I sold it 2 years later I had mixed emotions. The engine remained strong and reliable but it had numerous electrical problems and other drive train related problems & recalls. It's a great looking truck but so is my 2000 Tundra that I bought used. My Tundra has had zero problems. The suspension is superior and the overall ride is nicer. The F-150 had the better back seats though. The Tundra is 90 degrees and uncomfortable. For city living, the Tundra is better in size. Having owned both, I would choose the Tundra for its reliability, drivability and size. Also, I still can't get over all the rattles the Ford had. I also had a Windstar that was free of rattles or any relibility issues so I am not saying it's a Ford issue. But when Toyota built the Tundra they had more than a "truck" in mind.

about th sats , y uncl has a 95 350 lik i ntion an th back sats a not cootabl at all. an soy o th hoibl splling, y kyboa isnt ltting th ltt at, it, ill xplain whn it is ix.

about th sats , y uncl has a 95 350 lik i ntion an th back sats a not cootabl at all. an soy o th hoibl splling, y kyboa isnt ltting th ltt at, it, ill xplain whn it is ix.

:screwy: can someone decipher that for me

All i got was: "about the seats my uncle has a 95 (F?) 350 and the back seats are not (comfortable?) at all. And so...i'll explain when it is...."

ok, it is supposed to say "about the seats , my uncle has a 95 F350 like i mentioned and the back seats are not comfortable at all. and sorry about the horrible spelling, my keyboard isnt letting the letters after, F it, ill explain when it is fixed



my keyboard wouldnt let me type the letters, e, m, f, d, m, r, u.