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SAPrez
06-23-2004, 10:11 PM
Hey People!

If this is a tired question please just direct me to the previous post or something.....
I am about to get a 240sx and drop in the RB26DETT---what I want to know is, is it possible, and how is it done, to convert the 240sx to AWD? How much does this cost, what needs to be bought, etc etc....Pretty much anyone I ask say's it's theoretically possible, but they don't know how or who to ask---so who better to ask than the experts on AF?

Michael Bernard

KenOhki2112
06-23-2004, 10:42 PM
Hey People!

If this is a tired question please just direct me to the previous post or something.....
I am about to get a 240sx and drop in the RB26DETT---what I want to know is, is it possible, and how is it done, to convert the 240sx to AWD? How much does this cost, what needs to be bought, etc etc....Pretty much anyone I ask say's it's theoretically possible, but they don't know how or who to ask---so who better to ask than the experts on AF?

Michael Bernard

RB26DETT swap is a LOT of fabrication. I bet it would be really easy to spend over $10,000 on the swap.

HondaHater
06-23-2004, 11:00 PM
just buy a damn bnr32 and forget the problems.

SAPrez
06-24-2004, 12:12 AM
No---Bumble Bee Engineering puts the swap in, Mounts, downpipe, etc, gets car running, $2k.
Check them out, seriously. There is a thread titled "Bumble Bee Engineering" that has their contact info!
So-plus engine at approx $3k, that's half of what you all expect.
I believe the rb25/26, a year from now, will seriously overtake the popularity of the Silvia Swap, imho.

mB

SAPrez
06-24-2004, 12:14 AM
Any info on the AWD?

nissanfanatic
06-24-2004, 12:37 AM
I believe that the KA is going to stay unpopular just the way I like it. AWD on a 240? Read the RB question sticky at the top of the forum. The first question down. 15k. Would you mind telling me where you're going to get 15k for this? If you have the money, good luck and more power to you if you complete it. In my opinion, the swap is cool but too much money and work. AWD conversion isn't too smart. KA-T is very easy and can pretty much kill any of these engines stock on about 8psi and a little tuning. Torque is good.

SAPrez
06-24-2004, 12:53 AM
Thanks a lot---great thread....Didn't really get too specific about the AWD, but I think it is a highly specialized sort of thing is why.....
I might opt-out for the RB25, but from my current supplier, the rb26 comes with the 25 shift linkage and trans---I'll confer with BBE before I buy anything to just get an exact estimate on the labor to see if I'll see major savings.....
As far as I know, BBE and McKinney are the only ones who are doing these swaps---I didn't catch the name of the people in that sticky thread but will go back and see....So that makes 3? BBE's turnaround is 2 weeks, and McKinney is a month, so 3 weeks is right in between. But those people in the sticky seemed to be more highly priced than BBE.......
I'll do the engine swap then work up to the AWD. Don't have $15k to drop into this project all at once, but if I work my butt off, can get it all done in parts, no problem.
I'm not a rich kid, but a voracious worker....

mB

KenOhki2112
06-24-2004, 01:28 AM
Doesn't an RB26DETT front clip cost over $8000? or ~5000-6000 for the engine? If you want a good power/money ratio get the KA-T, RB26 is mostly for bragging rights given the cost.

SAPrez
06-24-2004, 02:00 PM
You can find better prices.....Our current supplier gets RB26DETT to destination, eng,trans,ecu, harness for $4500. I know this isn't the best price there is to find, but I prefer these guys cuz of the warranty.

mB

SAPrez
06-24-2004, 02:00 PM
Don't know about the whole clip....haven't asked....

mB

nissanfanatic
06-25-2004, 12:21 AM
RB26=waste of money. RB25 is much easier of a swap and makes plenty of power for the 240. It doesn't take much to push 2700 pounds quickly. Lets face it, if the little SR20 can run 13s with mild bolt ons, then what can the RB25 do with mild bolt ons? 12s maybe? I don't know bc I look at it as a waste of money for those engines when all the power you will ever need is already there. All it needs is tuning and some boost. Needs less money too. AWD? What are you planning on doing with your car? You will immediatly screw up your weight distribution. You should really reconsider the AWD especially if you dont have the money now. Work your butt off for mods and I guaruntee you will be plenty happy with those.

AKA Ryan
06-25-2004, 01:12 AM
So that makes 3? BBE's turnaround is 2 weeks, and McKinney is a month, so 3 weeks is right in between. But those people in the sticky seemed to be more highly priced than BBE

I don't think Unstable is doing work anymore. They had a message saying they were scammed and put out of business, before thier site went down. :disappoin

HondaHater
06-25-2004, 11:23 AM
what were they scammed for?

Jon Powell
06-25-2004, 12:15 PM
Putting the AWD system into a 240SX is on of the most difficult things I have ever seen, and I have never seen it done.

The transfer case on the SKyline is not a locked unit but rather has a few clutches that engage and disengage at the ECU's will depending on wheel slip.

Installing the entire system to make that operable is a huge task.

Parts are ALL OVER the Skyline for it, including a reservoir inside the trunk ont he (Japanese) drivers side.

I dont see how this is really feasible for anyone who does not have a huge wallet.

nissanfanatic
06-26-2004, 12:35 AM
Putting the AWD system into a 240SX is on of the most difficult things I have ever seen, and I have never seen it done.

Right, and what did you say your name was?

Jon Powell
06-26-2004, 12:21 PM
Right, and what did you say your name was?

What exactly are you trying to say, I just want to be clear so I understand the point in what your posted.

I just would like to know so I know EXACTLY how to respond.

I hope you aren't trying to say that I have no experience in this area, because I would LOVE to have you educate me.

nissanfanatic
06-26-2004, 03:28 PM
Putting the AWD system into a 240SX is on of the most difficult things I have ever seen, and I have never seen it done.


Read that and tell me what I'm trying to say. If you haven't seen it done then how have you seen it?

I trust that you have expirience and have no desire to educate you. If you want an education, go to school.

Jon Powell
06-26-2004, 06:46 PM
All I am trying to say is that out of all the difficult things I have seen/been involved with the AWD system on the Skyline is extremely difficult to implement on the 240SX...I have however seen it attempted before. Never completed though.

Your snide cocky little remarks should be kept for elsewhere.

HondaHater
06-27-2004, 08:32 PM
ive seen it done before


















inside my head.

klohiq
06-27-2004, 09:06 PM
I definitely wouldn't call it one of the most difficult things to have done...since I can think of many, many things that are very hard to do to a 240sx. How about taking a skyline rear end, cutting the 240s rear end of and welding it all together and then having it be stable and rigid enough to be useful for spirited street use. That would be 10x harder I bet...as are much of the crazy ideas I have envisioned for the 240...

Personally I am waiting for more info on what mitsubishi and some other manufacturers are experimenting with. I like the idea of the new eclipse specifically. For anyone who doesn't know, the prototype for the next gen eclipse may be awd again, but a petrol-powered engine will drive the front wheels and a single (or maybe one for each wheel) electric motor will drive the rear wheels under hard acceleration. Kinda a performance hybrid instead of the insight's version of hybrid.

The only change would be the addition of somewhat small motors in the front of the 240sx to make it awd. A much better idea would be to take an mr2 and add an electric motor up front to make it awd...more space up front compared to the 240...

Though you could take a 240 and make it a 2 seater, mid-engine car and add an electric motor up front...but I guess that would be pretty complicated haha

nissanfanatic
06-28-2004, 01:08 AM
All I am trying to say is that out of all the difficult things I have seen/been involved with the AWD system on the Skyline is extremely difficult to implement on the 240SX...I have however seen it attempted before. Never completed though.

Your snide cocky little remarks should be kept for elsewhere.

I believe you. Changing any car that wasn't originally AWD would be difficult. Too bad you didn't see it completed. That would have been one hell of a show. The only problem I could see is tuning the AWD to distribute the power evenly according to the weight. Oh and of course somehow putting all the AWD shit on the 240 and fabricating.

You don't like my snide cocky little remarks? Read my signature.

logik23
06-28-2004, 03:06 PM
Who's Rick James?

importcrazy421
06-28-2004, 04:59 PM
^^ lol. Hey the whole thing about the rb swaps being a lot of money is a misconseption. I am getting an r33 rb25det front clip with 45000 miles on it and nothing taken off it for around 3600. It comes with the lsd and axles/rotors/brakes. Then too put it in it will cost around 1500-1700: mainly for the motor mounts and driveshaft= $1200. After that it is pretty much bolt in guys no fab!!! So for 5g you have 250hp on stock boost and a straight six under the hood. Ya baby!

P.S. to turbo the ka with a kit like fmax is like 4g.

importcrazy421
06-28-2004, 05:00 PM
BTW thats doing it yourself^^. Not worth it if you dont.

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