well, its that time again, feel like a nice sports car (turboed preferably)

so let's say i give you 20 grand (canadian which is prob like 16-17 grand american nowadays?) what car would you buy? it could be 20 grand flat or you could buy a 5 grand car and spend the rest on mods? lol gimme some feedback, this is what i've come up with

1994 supra TT
2002 subaru wrx
1993 rx-7
1990 nissan 300zx TT or 240sx sr20det swap
1995 3000gt sl
1998 eclipse gsx

? why would you get the 3000gt sl instead of the vr4? i mean you got supra turbo 300zx tt but 3000gt sl, why?

the vr4's up here in canada are very rare, and they are more than 20 grand

i would love one though

Well I would get a BMW E36 M3 for like around 15grand give or take and spend the rest on mods. But thats just me. Also I agree with youngVR4 get the VR4. If you can find a TT supra for under 20grand then you should be able to find a VR4 for also. Maybe you just need to look harder. I mean a Supra and Rx-7 are so much harder to find.

you'd be surprised, up here in canada we were only just recently (few years ago) introduced to the first ever mitsubishi dealerships, so the 3000gt's and the older eclipses were never actually "in" canada, they had to be brought up from usa, only the new galants, eclipses, lancers, etc are available and the others are 'imports' if you wish from usa

there are a lot of supras, good prices in my mind as well up here, rx-7s a little more hard to come by, and ya the m3's could be very fast with some mods (not sayin it isnt as it is stock!)

Chevy Sprint and a Merkur are good choices....


Both came Turbo trim, Both can be had for about $63 or a case of beer.

After all these years in T.O, i have only came across two 3000gt's, and neither were VR4's. Rx7's, there's one down the street, but never seen them much either. I'd take an RX7 though if I could find a clean one..

I'd say either 300ZXTT, Supra TT or RX-7. In that order.

EDIT: My reasoning
1)the 300ZXTT is heavy, but pretty damn fast and sexy looking IMO.
2)The RX-7 looks awesome, but it has REALLY poor mileage since the intake/exhaust fumes mix...so its not too practical, BUT its a rotary so...
3)the Supra probably has the largest aftermarket out of all your options, simply because its a Supra. I ranked it 3rd because its not really unique anymore.

My :2cents:

Psssttttt. Look here R32, don't say I wasn't cool to you. http://www.evo8.com/?page=shop/browse&category_id=7d3275213f57fbe5d668c88bdf234abc&ps_session=8c2094a3b85baaedfe27b76627f8c21d

Y don't u save up a few more grand............talk to motorex.........and inquire about a R32(late 80's/early 90's)

I'm not saying the GTR model, those run for almost 30g, but see how much the GT-S's are selling for.RWD Single Turbo,and 250HP i believe.I believe motorex quoted me something like 19g's.

Psssttttt. Look here R32, don't say I wasn't cool to you. http://www.evo8.com/?page=shop/browse&category_id=7d3275213f57fbe5d668c88bdf234abc&ps_session=8c2094a3b85baaedfe27b76627f8c21d

ya that has many mods, probably more than 20 grand wouldn't ya think?

Y don't u save up a few more grand............talk to motorex.........and inquire about a R32(late 80's/early 90's)

ya i would love a gtr, i live in canada so we don't have to go through motorex like you americans do, the imported car HAS to be 15 years old which kinda sucks, but at least we don't have to pay the legalization fees! i could prob pick a decent one up for 20 grand, but the insurance is the killer!! :banghead:

95 GSX, not 98. 95 had the good ecu.

ya that has many mods, probably more than 20 grand wouldn't ya think?



ya i would love a gtr, i live in canada so we don't have to go through motorex like you americans do, the imported car HAS to be 15 years old which kinda sucks, but at least we don't have to pay the legalization fees! i could prob pick a decent one up for 20 grand, but the insurance is the killer!! :banghead:
Dude that car has got about $12K atleast under the hood. I'd estimate that car to atleast be in the 11's. Best of all it's going for less then $10K. To be honest it might be a little too fast for you. I know it would be too fast for me. It's gotta be up there trap speed wise. No one expects to be smoked by a Galant. Those are VERY rare cars. They only made a thousand of them. It's definitely a sleeper.

Well that guy wants $7,000 o.b.o. for that Galant VR4. That's dirt cheap IMO.

I agrree with the one dude get a 1995 Bmw M3. stay away from the newer ones though there a tad heavy. Import turbo cars arent the most polite machines lol. If your skil level isnt that high your not gonna get the full potential out of them. Plus nothing beats an Inline 6. Oh and I love supras but idk if you can find a decent one for 17 grand thats a TT witih less then 90k miles. And 98 Gsx's are uncomfortable common cars. And youde still be paying around 12 grand for one. 3000Gt's handle like shit period. 240sx are cool there just again kinda common looking now. and 300zx tt is more of a touring car. Like a vette. So if your the laid back type that just wants a powerfull car thats a cruiser go for that. Its not very nimble.

and dude a 95 gsx is the shittiest Dsm you can by Period. Those have the worst history of crank walk ever and they look like ass in the front. Best Dsm is a 92, or a 98/99.also rx-7s are sexy but expensive and uncomfortable. And theres no way in hell he could get an late 80's early 90's skylin efor less then 25 grand us. And why the hell would you want to? who cares if its a skyline the older ones get raped by Evo's and STi's all the damn time. and a 300Zx Tt with minor mods would rape it to. STop thinking just cause a car is a skyline its the best fucker out there. the R34 GtR is an awesome car but the rest are just ok.

3000Gt's handle like shit period..

:spit: yeah right :rofl: :rofl: :grinno:

i'd get the supra if i was you, its not like there as common as mustangs. i say supra

zanark you speak as if you have driven every single car i posted and you've said shit about each and every one of them...and yes we canadians can get GTR's for less than 20 grand CANADIAN because we dont have to pay legalization fees...and what do u mean the r32 gtr gets 'spanked' by the sti and evos? they're ALL 13.0 second cars...

it's gonna be a really hard choice....i think its between the supra tt, nissan 300zxtt, and the rx-7

Definetly get the supra tt.

and dude a 95 gsx is the shittiest Dsm you can by Period. Those have the worst history of crank walk ever and they look like ass in the front. Best Dsm is a 92, or a 98/99.also rx-7s are sexy but expensive and uncomfortable. And theres no way in hell he could get an late 80's early 90's skylin efor less then 25 grand us. And why the hell would you want to? who cares if its a skyline the older ones get raped by Evo's and STi's all the damn time. and a 300Zx Tt with minor mods would rape it to. STop thinking just cause a car is a skyline its the best fucker out there. the R34 GtR is an awesome car but the rest are just ok.

WTF is going on here?

This guy is just talking out of his ass!He obviously knows nothing of skylines let alone what a GTR can do......let alone just a R34GTR.Do a lil research my friend, then you own't look so stupid when you post here....i hate drug addicts........although they do make me look like faulkin einstein.

...and yes we canadians can get GTR's for less than 20 grand CANADIAN because we dont have to pay legalization fees...

Wait a moment here, so you can get a GTR skyline in your price range???! Why aren't you jumping on that?! I sure would! But if not, I'd go with a Supra tt. Good luck man, and let us know what happens!


Oh ya, compared to the Supra, 300zx, and rx7, the e36 m3 is not all that quick in straightline acceleration. Nor will it be that quick without quite the significant amount of money poured into the motor(we're talking like 5 grand U.S. dollars for a supercharger set up). the m3 most definitely is a great all around car though, and is a great daily driver(as I drive approximately 60 miles a day).

If you do go with the Bavarian route, I'd suggest the 96-99 m3's because they are the ones with the 3.2L motor and have most of the problems that the 95's have worked out. Although it is true that the 95's(3.0L motor) react best to mods because they are OBDI, the OBDII 3.2L(96-99) are still putting the most power down. So ya.. thats my argument for the 96+'s.

Everything I said is correct. You people disagree, what ever I know Im right. Period

and I didnt speak bad about the Supra, thats a fine machine. Nore did I say much about the Rx7. 3000Gt Sl handles like Shit. face it, its true. R32 and R33's are over rated. I honestly dont need to argue with any of you because I know Im right.

Here's a VR4 in BC for less than 20

http://www.canadatrader.com/trader/result/affich.asp?rubno=4000&r=%27BRC%27&ste=&sid=&issr=1&yfr=0&yto=0&kfr=0&kto=0&pfr=0&pto=0&dm=1&dp=4&mk=&md=3000&kw=&rc=&or=0&oby=7&pg=2&vid=12804247


I personally think a '94+ Supra is one of the most rare in Canada and I've never seen one for less than 35 grand. There's a '94 in Ontario at the moment for 36,000 and two others in BC for nearly 40,000.

I like the '95 RX-7 because it handles awesome and already has good acceleration, it's very light too.

BMW isn't bad either.

I would buy my 89 vette and be left with 12,500 to modify it. I love corvettes. Hey i didnt see no list for vette why?

i still say supra :)

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Wait a moment here, so you can get a GTR skyline in your price range???! Why aren't you jumping on that?! I sure would! But if not, I'd go with a Supra tt. Good luck man, and let us know what happens!

yep its true, if i could find an insurer that knows anything about skylines at all, or that would give me a decent quote i would jump on that opportunity like noneother, but see the insurance is what always holds me down

zanark if you have nothing positive to say please stay out of this conversation, i know its your opinion but i dont care because its all negative output

thanks for your research janet reno, that vr4 its mighty fine, but i'm just wondering if theres something wrong with it (minor damages/HIGH mileage etc...) that would make the owner charge so little for it, but thanks again

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I would buy my 89 vette and be left with 12,500 to modify it. I love corvettes. Hey i didnt see no list for vette why?

im not trying to start a domestic war, but the older vettes don't appeal to me (plus the gas prices nowadays are insane)

im not trying to start a domestic war, but the older vettes don't appeal to me (plus the gas prices nowadays are insane)


... wait... you're worried about the fuel consumptin with a Vette... when you're looking at buying other high performance vehicles, that won't get much better milege... if not worse?

:rolleyes:

:p

Well, if he had a choice between ugly and gas eater or pretty and gas eater... I think he'd go with pretty :P.

And Zanark, who the fuck CARES if something gets spanked by this or that... It's not always fucking about who has the fastest quarter mile. It's about what car you LIKE.

how so? the v8 vette is a gas guzzler compared to the cars im interested in

why is this in the street racing forum?
not the car comparisons forum?
see sticky at top of this forum... ;)

Good luck getting a supra that isn't overpriced. RX7's leave alot to be desired reliability wise. I think the 300ZX is a great platform that is under utilized. I knew a guy at the track that was running 11's in it. IMO the supra has become so played out that many people don't consider alternative cars. I can't blame you for wanting it though, cause I did at one time. I'll stick with the Evo though. :D

too bad us canadians dont get the evos...it sucks, their bumpers weren't good enough for us so all we get is the shitty oz rally lancers

www.importconcern.ca (http://www.importconcern.ca)

DEff check this place out, fuck if I had 15k to dump right now I'd have an r32 GTR, or even within the next 2 years maybe I'll find a nice 1jz powered Mk3 Supra.

im always at that site trying to find another gtr for sale by the brokers section

also at http://www.jns-imports.com
they have lots to choose from as well, but they are a bit more expensive

i say supra or rx7 but why in the world did you put a 3000gt SL? they are really nice cars but when it comes to performance they cant compete with those cars stock. why not a VR4? i take that one over all the other cars? and are they really that rare in Canada??

not that i look at it also the Eclipse GSX and Subaru WRX cant compete either.

Well seeing as he lives in Canada so AWD would be his best pick. So a used WRX might not be a bad choice. I mean he could find a used WRX for a little more then 10grand and with the rest of that cash he could make the WRX scary fast. Same goes for the GSX.

yea true

lol gsx cant compete.

Rethink that bucko, then come back with a more intelligent answer.

In the meanwhile - www.shepracing.com

maybe it'll answer your "gsx cant compete" statement.

If you were to get a supra, you can be able to get the 2nd gen. But you can get an FD3S RX-7 for that price range.

how so? the v8 vette is a gas guzzler compared to the cars im interested in
The FD RX-7 R2 was known for its incredibly poor gas mileage...it got like 14-16 mpg on average. A C5 Corvette will give you 18-20 mpg on average use...so you'd be surprised. Same w/ the MKIV Supras....they were known for poor gas mileage.

I'm pretty sure this is correct, and please correct me if I'm wrong. IMO, find a nice 300ZX TT and mod that, because it has very solid potential for a street/track car.

My :2cents:

lol um first off I never mentioned anything about the quarter mile. Honestly if you were going for str8 line speed then the GT-r would be a good contender. So watch your tongue, Im not trying to come off as being negative at all, Im just being honest. R32's R33's are heavy and over rated its simple as that. If your able to afford one, go ahead more power to you. This is your thread, you all have opinions I have mine. I just believe that for your price range a M3 or a Supra would be the better choice. And by the way when I say "spanked" I meant on the track, not in the quarter mile. Its pointless to go in a str8 line. And Vettes suck ass any way.

I'd go with either the 300zxtt (sexy looking, cheap compared to a supra or rx-7, fast, and moddable), or a gsx, (very cheap compared to the other cars you're considering, very fast for fairly cheap). I'm not sure about a good site for the 300zx, but go to www.dsmtuner.com for more info about the gsx. Another possible car is an rx-7 turbo II.

heavy and OVER rated?

I'll take Atessa(sp) and an RB26 over a 2jz or m3 anyday. At least I'll be able to drive it when the roads get bad :rolleyes: Most people get cars to drive them around, not race them.

how so? the v8 vette is a gas guzzler compared to the cars im interested in

my dad got better gas mileage than me all the way from washington to arkansas and back

lol were u flooring it though? or was your dad just keeping at steady pace?

vettes are really good with gas if you dont abuse them. Save the abusing for when you need it, for example: street racing

"and are they really that rare in Canada??"

There's 30 million people in Canada and 300 million in the US so that makes a bit of an issue. I'm not even sure VR4's were sold new here..maybe I'm wrong. Same with the 94+ Supra, not sure if it was even sold new here. I look on the autotrader.ca almost every day for a while now and I rarely see those cars.

And as for the RX-7 not being reliable, that's not true. Most people just don't understand them. The RX-7's engine burns oil as part of its running process and needs it a lot more than a regular engine. Ie...oil every 5000km. Fluid inspection. Coolant flushes. Check oil at every few fillups. Some people drive 20,000km's on regular engines that were in need of an oil change and the thing is still running after. There's plenty of high mileage rotary engines out there. 3 moving parts in a rotary with smooth power delivery meaning less wear and tear on it. Less parts need lubrication on a rotary. A RX-7 is going to require a little more upkeep.

If you get a RX-7 though they're in need of a cooling upgrade badly as the heat can be detramental to the reliability of the car.

If you're going to mod an RX-7 consider that the engine demands good tuning or you could have problems, also the stock ECU isn't good for much mods.

I personally wouldn't buy any of them. I'd sell the Parisienne and go buy an '88 Grand National.

I found one for 19,500. Mechanically mint but the body needs help. So i'd rip off the Grand National badges, glue on some Cutlass badges and go pick on Corvettes.

There's my :2cents:


PS: Hasn't this been done several times already??

The only thing i hate about sleepers is you can hardly ever get people to race you, unless your at the track of course. Hell, people will rarely race my 5.0 unless its either a new mustang or a camaro/trans/vette. But other than that sleepers kick ass! :)