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What to do with the 5sfe?91celicaFB 05-16-2004, 12:22 AM Hey, what can i do with the 5sfe to make it a lil faster, and dependable when occasionaly raced? Im talking about internal engine or whatever you can think of. thanks Cynistah Celica 07-25-2004, 03:10 PM Ahhh yes.......where should I start? 1. Intake @ inductiondynamics.com (cold air), 2kracing.com $100 (short ram). These should give you about 8hp to start, then you go to spiralmax.com and order a tornado for an extra 35%hp gain $60. 2. With more air, you'll need more fuel! Change you A/F ratio to about 13:1 (slightly rich, more power with more air flow). 3. Get an HKS twin power harness for a more intense spark $45. Then do your wires! Get some spark plug wires 8.5mm (NGK,HKS,Magnacore,VITIK) $30-$130 to pass your new found voltage to "Greddy" cold heat range or "HKS" spark plugs 0.44 gapped found @ hksusa.com or greddy.com so they can ignite your air and fuel. $30 njm627 07-25-2004, 06:43 PM would all that work on a 93 gt? and can you do each of those things one at a time? njm627 07-25-2004, 06:48 PM are you saying either one of those intakes (short ramn, or cold air) to get is ok or what? Dober89 07-25-2004, 07:11 PM I would pick a cold air intake over a short ram anyday. Even alot of cold air intake suck ass. Whats the point of installing a "cold air" intake when its just a replacement filter that actually sucks up hot air from the engine bay??? A real cold air induction system get air from outside the engine bay either from the front of the car or underneath where it is actually cold. My domestic car has a y snorkel on the front and it picks up air from the front clip and is a true cold air induction. njm627 07-25-2004, 07:11 PM one other thing. other forums have said that the tornado doesnt work?? what is the difference between a tornado and turboing an engine and would you be able to turbo a 5sfe w/ little cost? Dober89 07-25-2004, 07:25 PM The tornado is just a silly little piece of metal that is supposed to improve airflow by smoothing out the airflow. I wouldnt bother buying one. Turbos can be somewhat expensive, but they do make great power and are fun and I LOVE the sound of them. Cynistah Celica 07-25-2004, 08:02 PM You can get either of the two intakes give, they both have pros. and cons. The ram air does take warmer air from the engine bay or slightly cooler air from near the radiator depending on it's length, the warm air is good in the mid range and upper power band, the con. is that it's not much help on take off. The cold air helps on the take off alittle, but then you also risk getting water past your throttle body. People say the Tornado dosen't work....people on the internet say it dosen't work....the 5 people I have met who have one say they feel the difference....you pick! 1. 2 were on a Normal Levin, the other on a Super Charged Levin, one on an MX3, one on a Ford Ranger. The tornado chanels the air more intensly through your intake area and is only like $60. The turbo for the 5SFE forces spent gases back through your throtle body to provide more air for your cylinders to burn, you can find the kit for $2500 U.S. at poweredbytoyota.com you will be able to run about a max of 7psi of boost of the bat, probably more later down the line Dober89 07-25-2004, 08:32 PM Warm air is never good for an engine when your dealing with performance. The cooler your incoming air, the denser it is and the more fuel you can mix with it. The only way you would have to worry about sucking up water is if your air filter was very close to the ground and out in the open and you drove through half a foot of water or more. njm627 07-26-2004, 01:18 AM am i able to get the tornado w/o changing my spark plugs and wiring right away? and cool air intake will add about hp? what about exhaust? njm627 07-26-2004, 01:18 AM add about 8hp* Cynistah Celica 07-26-2004, 12:32 PM Yea you can get that stuff without changing your wires and stuff if they're not really deadass fucked up. The Cold air is still in testing, they are going to make it but I don't know why they haven't dropped it yet, but don't worry about your plugs at that point that much. I know Pacesetter makes a catback exhaust systems for us for less than 300 dollars, it's a 2 1/4 inch piping (but my friends tell me that Pacesetter sucks. That's WORD OF MOUTH so I don't know) Venom has an ECU Modulator for the car also that you can turn on and off (for emission testing), they say it increases power throughout the powerband for like $300. Hotshot.com also has headders for the 5sfe engine, but u'd have to save up for them lol they're like $522 Cynistah Celica 07-27-2004, 11:39 AM Okay, I did my home work on the whole warm air to cold air for your engine thing and this is what is does. Cold air is denser than warm air and provides slightly more power from your engine because when the intake air sensor detects cold air, it provides the engine with a slightly richer A/F ratio because the cold air needs more fuel for the perfect 14.7:1 A/F ratio. Warmer air on the other hand needs less fuel to burn and the computer lessens the amount of fuel your injectors give cutting down on your power........ What I am now puzzled about is the fact that if your injectors are preset and you don't mess with them, and you get a cold air intake system, will the ECU continue to try to make the perfect A/F ratio (which would decrease power slightly) or will it continuiously provide that slightly rich mixture? Dober89 07-27-2004, 05:25 PM The computer adjusts the injector pulses to adjust how much fuel is put into the engine. The ECU has set spark and fuel tables which it uses but also adjusts those slightly according to different sensors like the o2 sensor. Cynistah Celica 07-27-2004, 06:02 PM Yea, I know about the main sensors like 1. The oxygen sensor 2. The MAP sensor 3. The throttle position senosr 4. Engine Temp. Sensor 5. Air Flow Sensor 6. Inlet Air temp. sensor 7. The crankshaft position sensor that determin the A/F ratio and I won't bother name the other ones.....but what I want to know is wether or not the cold air will constantly give the ECU the signal to constantly provide a slightly rich mixture, or if the other sensors will come together to eventually stop it. vBulletin®, Copyright ©2009, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
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