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Has Motorex resumed legalizing the R34?


PapoSwing
05-14-2004, 07:36 AM
Hey guys. I know that recently many of you said that Motorex had not received the proper authorizations to continue legalizing the R34 until later in the year. Have they now resumed the legalization process for R34's?

VQuick
05-14-2004, 08:46 AM
I asked Tyndago back on April 30th, and he said he hadn't heard anything. Dunno if anything would have changed since then.

flylwsi
05-14-2004, 09:22 AM
guess what motorex has on their website...

a section called "contact us"
click it.
there's a phone number.
use it.

ta da!

thegladhatter
05-15-2004, 12:06 AM
nope

oi_boy
05-15-2004, 02:41 AM
they havent. I called a week or so ago and they said anywhere from 3 months to the end of the year. end of the year for sure though.

phantomxinc
05-18-2004, 05:37 AM
i read up on trying to import a skyline, asked around a bit, read long long long pages of the terms from the u.s. crappola, and the verdict of getting your skyline legalized is some straight shyt! I could get my car for 2k, but then I would have to get the skyline shipped to EPA 5k for that then back to the RI another 2k plus the 3k just to ship it here that I forgot to type, then getting all the stuff needed to modify it to u.s. regulations to be u.s. legal about roughly 5k for some breakdown add a piece here and there and put back together! All and all I been stressed out for about four days reading all this legalization crap and say man, I need a job that pays 70k in a month, so I can get me a damn skyline already for Motorex at the end of the year! I see why they charge so much! Did I forget to mention the crash testing which I notice only they have actually done, and they dont plan on releasing that info I bet! Well I give up! My dreams of owning a skyline are depleted, now I will have to just cope with getting a Honda Accord '99 and do some cosmetic surgery to it to make it look like a '99 nissan skyline, it has been done in cali! Now I guess I have to do the same! I hate U.S.!!!!! Free my azz!

phantomxinc
05-18-2004, 05:39 AM
if that was against the rules of the site and some words are too harsh I am sorry I am very stressed out from reading alot of stuff over the past few days and finding nothing that can help me get a skyline at a much cheapier and easier way than Motorex

RazorGTR
05-18-2004, 12:20 PM
Na its ok mate. I'm in the same boat or simular boat as the rest of you. I've continplated on coming back to the states and obviously the goal of bringing my GTR back with me. However a cost to legalize it simular to my purchase price has put me off that idea right now!

Maybe one day it won't cost so much and I'll reconsider it until then I'll just live in New Zealand thanks.

phantomxinc
05-18-2004, 12:27 PM
i might have to move to new zealand or something, I need my skyline!

jcsaleen
05-18-2004, 05:15 PM
Do you think the gov would consider letting skyline slide and not have to convert if we got everysingle skyline enthusiast to petition and pass a law or something. :naughty:

phantomxinc
05-19-2004, 01:33 AM
Do you think the gov would consider letting skyline slide and not have to convert if we got everysingle skyline enthusiast to petition and pass a law or something. :naughty:


I dont think so man, because during my few days of research I was sent exact info on how to get it sent and legalized down here, and there are other companies that can perform the skills of Motorex, it is just not known if they will perform 110% of the skills that Motorex applies to there method of legalizing the skyline for u.s. usage! Anyways here is the email that was sent to me after I asked a question regarding skyline importation! Low and behold look what they sent me below:


Dear Mr. Smith,

This is in response to your e-mail, in which you state that you would like to
import a right-hand drive (RHD) 1995 Nissan Skyline R33 from Japan. You stated
that you are aware that these vehicles are being imported and conformed by a
company named Motorex, but you stated that Motorex is charging more for these
services than you are able to pay. You have therefore asked what modification
would have to be performed on the vehicle to make it compliant with U.S. safety
standards.

The vehicle that you describe was not originally manufactured to comply with all
applicable Federal motor vehicle safety standards (FMVSS). Such a vehicle that
is less than 25 years old can only be lawfully imported into the United States
if 1) it is determined eligible for importation by NHTSA and 2) it is imported
by a registered importer or by a person who has a contract with a registered
importer to bring the vehicle into compliance with all applicable Federal motor
vehicle safety standards within 120 days of entry.

Import eligibility decisions are made on a make, model, and model year basis.
NHTSA has determined that the 1990-1999 versions of the right-hand drive (RHD)
Nissan GTS and GTR ("Skyline") are eligible for importation and has assigned
vehicle eligibility number VCP-17 to those vehicles. (The import eligibility
number is to be entered on the HS-7 Declaration form that is to be given to
Customs at the time of entry, and alerts Customs that the vehicle may be
lawfully imported by a registered importer or by a person who has a contract
with a registered importer, even though the vehicle is not certified by its
manufacturer as complying with all applicable FMVSS.) The agency has not
determined that any other model year Nissan Skyline is eligible for importation.

To learn the modifications the petitioner stated were needed to conform the
1990-1999 Skyline to the FMVSS, you should go to the DOT Docket Website at
dms.dot.gov and enter docket number 5507 in the appropriate block on the simple
search screen. A list of registered importers can be found on our website at
www.nhtsa.dot.gov/cars/rules/import. You should consult the importers on that
list to see whether any are willing to conform the vehicle that you seek to
import to all applicable safety and bumper standards.

If you decide to import the vehicle, one potential complicating factor is that
the registered importer who petitioned NHTSA to determine the 1990-1999 model
Skyline eligible for importation requested, and was granted, confidentiality
with respect to the modifications needed to conform the vehicle to certain of
the standards. As a consequence, that importer (Motorex of Gardena, California)
has claimed a proprietary interest in the modifications covered by the
confidentiality grant. This does not preclude other registered importers from
attempting to modify the vehicle. However, should those importers not gain
access to the modifications covered by the grant of confidentiality, they will
have to demonstrate to the agency, at the time they submit a conformity
certification package for a Skyline, that they have made equivalent
modifications that permit the vehicle to comply with the standards covered by
the confidentiality grant.

Regrettably you could not perform the necessary modifications to conform the
vehicle yourself. Those modifications could only be performed by a registered
importer. Moreover, you could not import the vehicle unless you have a contract
with a registered importer to perform the necessary modifications upon it.

I hope this information is helpful.

Coleman Sachs, Chief
Import and Certification Division
Office of Vehicle Safety Compliance

flylwsi
05-19-2004, 10:27 AM
ya know what that says?
you've got to go through an RI.
motorex.
end of story.

phantomxinc
05-19-2004, 03:50 PM
ya know what that says?
you've got to go through an RI.
motorex.
end of story.

ouch, why so harsh? just was posting what I recieved! my bad for trying to find a better way than motorex!

igor@af
05-19-2004, 07:32 PM
flylwsi, you do know that MotoRex is not the only RI, right?

Try RB Motoring.

jcsaleen
05-19-2004, 08:08 PM
flylwsi, you do know that MotoRex is not the only RI, right?

Try RB Motoring.

& this 1 too I heard JIU www.japimportsusa.com (http://www.japimportsusa.com)

my3rdskyline
05-19-2004, 08:48 PM
Japimportsusa.com
are you going to give 40 Grand to a website that doesn't even have correct grammar. I could have made a better webpage than that when I was in 3rd grade.

jcsaleen
05-19-2004, 09:20 PM
Its called a suggestion and when it comes down to it vs motorex price ill take it any day!!

phantomxinc
05-20-2004, 12:20 PM
& this 1 too I heard JIU www.japimportsusa.com (http://www.japimportsusa.com)


I know of them but dont know if there the real deal! But they sent me a letter saying this:

Aaron,
The price for shipping is between 1000 and 3500 dollars The price for conversion is 12000 plus shipping let me know if this is exeptable to you and we can go ahead and get the ball rolling as far as our importer we Berrie Taylor enterpises.
Thank you for choosing Japanese Imports
Justin Pace

phantomxinc
05-20-2004, 12:24 PM
those prices are in regards to a 1995 Nissan Skyline R33 I could get for $6k

RazorGTR
05-20-2004, 01:05 PM
flylwsi, you do know that MotoRex is not the only RI, right?

Try RB Motoring.


RB Motoring is the other option but they've not gotten paperwork sorted to comply them yet. At least Sean hasn't come on and said so.

As far as japimportsusa unless they've managed to go through the same processes as MotoRex or RB Motoring, or are getting their cars complied through MotoRex they are full of shit. Pretty simple isn't it.

flylwsi
05-20-2004, 01:58 PM
wow...
sounds like an echo...

motorex is it.
even RB goes through them.

igor@af
05-20-2004, 01:59 PM
no, RB does not.. not anymore.

flylwsi
05-20-2004, 05:13 PM
so RB, as also noted, is an RI now, right?

(the 350z looks sick as F igor, love those wheels!)

firefighter0143
06-16-2004, 02:56 AM
sean says that there not legalizing skylines.........
you know what though....if you really want a skyline 2 ways...
1..legal
2.illegal
its up to you....i've read almost all the forums about this and that, i have a 1989 bnr32 that i want to bring to the states...either i move to canada and not worry about legalizing it while i go to school (getting my masters degree) then have it towed to motorex...or someone finds a way to legalize it for a cheaper price......

jcsaleen
06-16-2004, 08:39 AM
All I can say is the gov isn't coing to come after you if you are keeping the car and just driving it your self. As long as you dont run a huge scam & selling them and saying that they are converted your fine. Its just every time you get caught when it doesnt meet emissions you have to pay a 250 fine which is alot better then 25,000 if you ask me.

Gtr2.7L
06-16-2004, 12:09 PM
Well...yes and no.

They haven't requested any new cars....but Jack still has a number of cars he's waiting on to be approved by the DOT.

no, RB does not.. not anymore.

Spidey.
06-25-2004, 04:45 PM
All I can say is the gov isn't coing to come after you if you are keeping the car and just driving it your self. As long as you dont run a huge scam & selling them and saying that they are converted your fine. Its just every time you get caught when it doesnt meet emissions you have to pay a 250 fine which is alot better then 25,000 if you ask me.

So if i get a skyline here in the us. Without legalizing it or whatever and im just driving it around.. I dont have to worry about the govt comming after me and taking it from me?

Man i want a skyline.. But god.. those importation and coversion prices. It's like im paying for two cars.

RazorGTR
06-25-2004, 05:09 PM
All I can say is the gov isn't coing to come after you if you are keeping the car and just driving it your self. As long as you dont run a huge scam & selling them and saying that they are converted your fine. Its just every time you get caught when it doesnt meet emissions you have to pay a 250 fine which is alot better then 25,000 if you ask me.


Customs have been seizing the cars as they come in unless they have the proper paperwork. So you might want to retract this statement.

Blazing Rice
06-25-2004, 05:18 PM
Customs have been seizing the cars as they come in unless they have the proper paperwork. So you might want to retract this statement.

This statement is true.

Also realize, if you were to get pulled over in your illegal Skyline the car will be seized from you and either deported or destroyed. And yes, it has happened. If the car does not go through the proper legalization process, at any time the car can and will be seized. Out of curiousity, how would you title and insure the car? JDM vehicles have totally different VIN numbering systems that no insurancve company would recognize in relation to the vehicle's year. :rolleyes:

VQuick
06-25-2004, 05:31 PM
Out of curiousity, how would you title and insure the car? JDM vehicles have totally different VIN numbering systems that no insurancve company would recognize in relation to the vehicle's year. :rolleyes:

The 'know-it-alls' think that you can just swap the VIN from a 240SX or something onto the Skyline, and no one will know the difference. :rolleyes: When it comes to insurance, I suppose they go the 240SX route, too. It sorta makes sense to them at first, but when the car gets sent to the crusher, they'll be bawling their eyes out.

Blazing Rice
06-25-2004, 07:46 PM
All I can say is the gov isn't coing to come after you if you are keeping the car and just driving it your self. As long as you dont run a huge scam & selling them and saying that they are converted your fine. Its just every time you get caught when it doesnt meet emissions you have to pay a 250 fine which is alot better then 25,000 if you ask me.

Oh, and by the way, the government WILL come after you once they know have an illegal vehicle. And it won't take them long to find you either. There are smart cops out there too. :rolleyes:

Spidey.
06-25-2004, 07:52 PM
Ugh.. It takes forever to get it legalized.. It's costly as hell.. And you can only get it done in one place..

Why is it all so hard?!

Oh and one question, if you can buy a skyline off of something like ebay motors for 11,000.. Can you get it shipped to the states and THEN get it shipped to MotoRex so they can legalize it?

jcsaleen
06-25-2004, 09:44 PM
Im a risk taker what can I say. If I have to ill get the car and finace the the conversion payment but I will get that car. :smile:

SAPrez
06-25-2004, 09:55 PM
That was actually a very enlightening letter---very much confirms and sums up everything quite elonquently and sussesinctly(sp?)--from an official to boot.
Thanks a lot PHANTOMXINC---that will be printed and posted in my office....

mB

Blazing Rice
06-25-2004, 10:11 PM
Ugh.. It takes forever to get it legalized.. It's costly as hell.. And you can only get it done in one place..

Why is it all so hard?!

Oh and one question, if you can buy a skyline off of something like ebay motors for 11,000.. Can you get it shipped to the states and THEN get it shipped to MotoRex so they can legalize it?

You could go that route. However, once the Skyline touches U.S. soil it will have to go straight to Motorex on a flatbed, do not stop, do not pass go, do not collect $200! You will probably already need to have the paperwork for the legalization process in line. :uhoh:

jcsaleen
06-25-2004, 10:14 PM
You could go that route. However, once the Skyline touches U.S. soil it will have to go straight to Motorex on a flatbed, do not stop, do not pass go, do not collect $200! You will probably already need to have the paperwork for the legalization process in line. :uhoh:

LOL like that sayin sooo true :iceslolan!

squallie
07-01-2004, 02:56 AM
what if i got an skyline off ebay or something that didnt run and jus kept it in my garage to look at everyday?

RazorGTR
07-01-2004, 04:48 AM
Squallie if you are soooooooooooo keen to piss your money away you could always send it to me. I can always use the extra.

jcsaleen
07-01-2004, 09:56 AM
Squallie if you are soooooooooooo keen to piss your money away you could always send it to me. I can always use the extra.


HAHA yea razor could always use the money if you want you could always send me the money.

tyndago
07-23-2004, 07:40 PM
flylwsi, you do know that MotoRex is not the only RI, right?

Try RB Motoring.

RB is an RI - but RB is not importing Skylines to legalize currently.

Several cars were imported and legalized though Motorex.

jcsaleen
07-23-2004, 07:50 PM
Does rb have there own teams like drifting etc...

I went to there web site and saw the pics from the drift contest.

tyndago
07-23-2004, 08:41 PM
Does rb have there own teams like drifting etc...

I went to there web site and saw the pics from the drift contest.

RB does have an S14 that we have been setting up. We have assisted a few people with their cars..... but no "Team " per se....

Racing /Drifting doesnt pay the bills - even though its fun...

jcsaleen
07-23-2004, 08:52 PM
Racing /Drifting doesnt pay the bills - even though its fun...

Ashame it dosent. That would be awsome, jus divert some of the Formula 1's budget towards it. :biggrin:

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