hi ppl im a newbi to this site. my friend just recently got his car and is bragging that he can kill me in his si but im not sure what would happen if i raced him. i have a 00 accord v6 and he has a 00 civic si and both are completely stock so who do you think would come out the victorious....

you would

even though he is 5 speed.......

i think the si would win, depending on how well he can

the accord i think will win i have mine and before i put the supercharger on it it was fast and i could always chirp tires if i punched it so i think u will win si's are for pussies wit no power

omg come on, it is a v6 compared to a 4 cyclinder

240hp vs. 160hp

I believe that the Si would take the accord :sly:
V-6 compared to a 4 banger isnt the only thing that matters. Power to weight ratio, is your accord stick? things like that matter as well.

Accord LX V6 (2001)
200hp, 195ft/lbs torque @ 4700rpm
weight: 3200
1/4 mile:16sec @ 88mph
0-60:7.7

Civic Si (1999-2000)
160hp, 111ft/lbs torque @ 7000
weight: 2584
1/4 mile: 15.6sec
0-60: 7.1

You can see clearly that not only is the Si faster in 1/4mile, but it is faster in the 0-60 as well.

omg come on, it is a v6 compared to a 4 cyclinder

240hp vs. 160hp

as to Lan Evo's statement, i believe that the 2003 accords have 240 hp, not the 2000 accords, therefore that statement is false. so its more like

200hp vs 160hp
3200lbs vs 2584lbs


16:1 vs. 16.15:1

^^^^^^^^^^^
those above are the power to weight ratios of each car, so the civic si has the accord beaten in almost every performance aspect.

SO the Si should win with no problem unless the guy can't drive stick, than its a whole different story

-Porky


-all info was aquired from http://www.hondahookup.com/honda_racing_chart.php

accord, si's are wack

Are you serious.. The accord has no chance, unless the Civic SI driver can't drive. Civic SI's pull 15.5 1/4 mile times stock

so say's the magazines......not everyone with an si is a good driver or can pull off those time's, si's are overrated.

race and tell us what happened

Its plain and simple they may be overrated but that doesn't mean their slower than 98-00V6 accords.

The SiR, US Si IS faster than the accord V6, its not a drivers race, the Si takes it pretty easily.
Ive run 3 times at the track against 2 automatic accords and one stick, none of them were close to beating me. They were .5-.9 seconds slower in the quarter mile. And Sis are NOT overrated, I ran a 15.3 in the 1/4 mile, completely stock.

Sis EAT accords v6 98-00

the accord i think will win i have mine and before i put the supercharger on it it was fast and i could always chirp tires if i punched it so i think u will win si's are for pussies wit no poweryea thats a pretty stupid and narrowminded coment for someone to make
why dont you think about what you post before you post it as far as who i think will win i im pretty with a decent drive and a good launch the si should walk away

ehh, if you have a good driver of an Si and both cars are stock, its almost DEAD EVEN. I have an Si and when I was stock I used to be dead even with them and then a friend of mine with a V6 accord got a full exhaust and he raped me.

Now the same is not true with the new Accord V6s, if you race an Si in one of theose the v6 accord 6 speed wont even see the Si in his rear view anymore he would be so far ahead :D

how did you run a 15.3, where did you get your 16.6 equal to a 15.3? did you get it off a website?

si's are way overrated, they run consistant 15.8-16.3's here with 300ft above sea level, there are supercharged and turbocharged ones that have went 14.9-15.4

its true driver is a major factor but i have yet to see one break low 15's with my own eyes all motor or near stock out of many many times at the track

When I went to Puerto Vallarta Jalisco, which is a port in the ocean I went to the track that is around an hour away, in the state of Nayarit. The track is at sea level, and I ran at 1:30 a.m in the morning, the track closed at 2:30 a.m. This was done in January so the climate was not how. I ran only 3 times, getting my best time of 15.377 Unfortunately I dont know my trap speed because they didnt have the sensors to measure that. When I ran the 15.377 I took off the back seat, the front seat, the jack, spare tire, played with the wheels preassure. The only modification I have done to my car is take off the catalytic converter and replaced it with a street pipe, which on a stock engine, doesent do shit.

So there you go, I ran a 15.377 at Nayarit (sealevel) at 1:30 a.m

ok ok, there ya go major weight reduction, so put all that shit back in and your running high 15's

Yeah man, but still you have to give me credit of running a 15.3 on a stock Si, Im proud of that time, hahaha...With everything on I wouldve probably ran a 15.6-15.7....pretty good still if you ask me.

stock motor but not stock body, any car is capable of going faster with weight reduction

I say run it as you would on the street, i dont think your gonna ride around all the time with everything out of your car

They arent over rated, theur drivers are.

With just an intake and NO weight reduction I went 15.3@88

With Intake, Exhaust and a timing advancement and NO weight reduction with the addition of leather interior I went 14.8@89.9

I have a friend all motor with an Si no weight reductions that went 13.9 with Skunk2 Stage 2 cams, I/H/E Intake Manifold, Chipped ECU and some tuning with a VAFC,

Its all in the driver :D

you must have elevation on your side

Those times are in Fla. Even here in Ohio, I went 15.3 @87 with Intake and Exhaust.

well having an friend that has an stock 00 Si and my boy used to have an 00 accord V-6 with underdrive pulleys and an AEM intake, the Si would get him everytime, especially from a dead stop. Not so much as when they were moving

Yeah I would bet all my money that I run 15.6 at sealevel with no weight reduction. Its not like car and driver and motor trend and all those magazines lie....

i highly doubt they lie, they get their numbers from editors driving and they dont run at a 1/4 mile track, they measure a 1/4 mile and set a few points along the way and probably use a stopwatch

hey ppls, to settle this little argument we finally raced. actually we raced 3 times and won twice and he beat me once so i guess it is pretty much dead even until some mods come into play....

oooooo oooooooo i told you so i told you so! nananana boo boo!

hey civic hb who were u going for in the race and who are u talking about

are there any quick things that i can do to reduce weight from my car like take out spare, carbon fiber hood, or something to that sort..

guess my thought isnt welcome here...

ok whatever you say buddy

acutally you won twice and lost once your quicker ahahahaha im right

ok ok, there ya go major weight reduction

hey man, you should be the last one picking on anyone for weight reduction, you rely on weight reduction
secondly he only took at most 100-150 lbs out of his car, which is not as major as you made it sound

True.
Equivalent to a passenger.

hey man, you should be the last one picking on anyone for weight reduction, you rely on weight reduction
secondly he only took at most 100-150 lbs out of his car, which is not as major as you made it sound

exactly what I said but then I got some smart ass comment so I just changed my post, I dont even think he took out 100 pounds though, maybe but not 150.

my car weighs close if not more than stock, im 6'0" 240 pounds...

the b18 with tranny weighs more than a d16 with tranny, i have 15" wheels not factory 14's, extra suspension, bigger brakes etc...

put all of that in an integra chassis and your running high 15's again, im not saying only you, but everyone relys on their hp/weight ratio

exactly i dont drive an integra, i was defending myself from the comment made about me having weight reduction

so i dont rely on anything, its done with good driving my friend

and all i was saying was that i would have never expected someone who swapped an engine into a lighter car for performance reasons would ever have ragged on someone elses car because they put it on a diet to take it to the track, do you leave your spare and all your other stuff in your car when you go to the track?

no i have nothing in the back, panels and such, i like how it looks and it helps to bring weight down some

i didnt rag on anyone for doing it i just stated you should run your car how you do on the streets unless your in bracket racing of some sort at the track i drive my car like this all the time as i did my old hatch, but you can best believe with my big ass in the car and other things the car weights more than stock...

lol right on man

6'0 240 in a hb civic ... HAHA damn son you add a whole second to your cars time ...

its a crx but close enough

yea im a big guy, yea my car is decently quick, all in the driver

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My brother has a 2000 V6 and it's got some ass to it.. If I would have seen this post earlier I would have said it's about even, because I raced one on the freeway with my ctr and didn't exactly put buslengths on him.