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CIREX
04-14-2004, 12:00 AM
i wa sjust wondering, wats the normal rpms yall let ur sol get up to before you shit in normal drivng situations?

94SolGrl
04-14-2004, 12:11 AM
Well I usually don't shit in my car...

but seriously, I'm typically an ass and take it right up to 8300-8400... VTEC owns me. When I'm low on gas I keep it below 5500 to keep VTEC from engaging.

CIREX
04-14-2004, 12:13 AM
haha sorry its late, i dint feel like checking my spelling. (funny typo tho) wow but that really tells me how much i kno bout manual ive been shifting around 3500, but hell everyone makes mistakes huh?

94SolGrl
04-14-2004, 12:21 AM
well depends on what model you have.. in an S or Si model your redline is at like 6300-6700, so of course you would shift about halfway through the powerband, so 3500 is about right. The VTEC model redline is at 8200 for an a3, 8000 for an a2. So halfway through the powerband is 4000-4300. Under just normal driving situations, going easy on the engine is the best idea.. but like I said.. VTEC owns me, and I loove just romping on it and seeing just how quick my car is (which, fyi, is pretty damn quick). Nothing wrong with shifting at 3500. But take it up to the redline a few times.. it takes your breath away.

CIREX
04-14-2004, 12:44 AM
ha will do, i have an si so i guess i was doing right then

Plastic_Fork
04-15-2004, 04:40 AM
I usually shift around 5000 rpms, but I have a B16A3 so that's about midway for me. I've found that gives me the smoothest shift. But then again, I've been driving manual transmissions for about seven years. Just gotta learn your car and then adjust your driving habits to them.

When I'm in a playful mood, I redline the thing like I hate it. :D

Privatebigandrew
04-15-2004, 07:07 PM
You shift at 5000 everyday!?!? Expect problems real soon. I shift at 2500 until she warms up, then at 3000 at normal operating temperature. I even shift at 2000 when i am just cruising along at night. The average shift point for most 4 cylinders is 3000. Anything above that is unecassary unless you are trying to get on it. Of course the VTEC model does have a tall final drive ratio, so sometimes it does take higher RPM's to keep up with traffic.

Plastic_Fork
04-16-2004, 02:36 AM
I used to shift at 4000 rpm's on my '88 Accord and it redlined at about 6000 rpms. Drove the thing for six years without issues. Just had to replace the clutch at 160k.

My Del Sol shifts fine at 4500 - 5000 rpms. No issues in the year I've had it. The car was designed to handle high rpms. I doubt shifting halfway on the tach is going to hurt it. I've been driving manual transmissions for years. No need to granny the car as long as you take care of it. I do regular maintenance, fluid changes, and tuneups at Honda to ensure engine stability. Engine runs like a champ. :)

Besides, remember I live in Atlanta. Most of my driving is highway driving with crazy drivers on the road and fast moving traffic. Gotta keep the pace. :p

94SolGrl
04-16-2004, 11:14 AM
How the hell do you shift at 2000? That drops you down to like 500rpm, which is just as bad for your engine, if not worse. When it chugs, you know you need to get the rpms up. I have a halfway to blown tranny already, so I'm not so caring about it. It's gonna grind and stick whether I shift at 2500 or 8500, so I figure I might as well have fun. (And yes, I have raced with that blown tranny... I can't wait to see times without it... :D)

Darc Tangent
04-16-2004, 12:45 PM
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"My Del Sol shifts fine at 4500 - 5000 rpms. No issues in the year I've had it. The car was designed to handle high rpms. I doubt shifting halfway on the tach is going to hurt it. I've been driving manual transmissions for years. No need to granny the car as long as you take care of it. I do regular maintenance, fluid changes, and tuneups at Honda to ensure engine stability."
Exactly. As long as you're matching driveline and engine speed for smooth shifts you should be fine. Hey anyone know what RPM the ATs shift at when you stomp on it? Cheers!

Plastic_Fork
04-16-2004, 02:28 PM
I haven't the slightest clue. :D I know diddly about the auto transmission other than it's a pain in the butt to convert to a manual transmission. :p

94SolGrl
04-16-2004, 05:24 PM
slushboxes... ugh... I think they shift somewhere around 4500, possibly 5000... It's *just* after VTEC kicks in.

If you're cool like me, you know how to redline a slushbox... buahahaha... no, my dad didn't think it was too funny.

Privatebigandrew
04-16-2004, 06:54 PM
If you shift at 2000, it only drops to about 1300, perfectly smooth if you do it right, feels better than an automatic. Yeah, if your engine lugs at lower RPM's you are killing your bearings. Mine has a bad clutch, so lower RPM's are easier to pull off. But try shifting at 200, its really smooth. (for cruising that is)

Privatebigandrew
04-16-2004, 06:55 PM
I meant 2000

Plastic_Fork
04-16-2004, 08:33 PM
Yeah, when my Accord's clutch was going I had to lower my shift points because it wouldn't grab otherwise. :p But the clutch on mine is pretty strong so far and it's been very smooth and nice shifts at 4000 - 5000. I just tend to find the shifting sweet spot on the transmission for each car I drive. For my particular Del Sol, that has been the best range for me to shift. Might be better on your car for lower rpm's normally. We both know no two cars / motors are the same. :)

alexdelsol
05-02-2004, 12:41 PM
If you're trying to go as fast as you can, you should just know when to shift. You feel the car reach its peak power. In a CRX SiR, the peak power is at 7800 and the red line is at 8200. The best thing to do is let it rev over the peak power slightly say up to about 8200 and then shift up, that way you stay well when on the VTEC boost when you enter the next gear. :) I've managed a 0-60 of 6.4secs in mine. Its slightly tuned and develops around 200bhp - not bad at all!

Tranzlogic
05-04-2004, 04:59 PM
ummm, it depends on your engine and if you have any top end mods..i can shift at 10k safely..but i wouldnt reccomend that for you...if you have an si SOHC Vtec, then i say throw her ass around 6900 -7k , that engine fuel cuts at 7500 so about 7 your golden, but i wouldnt do this for driving to walmart...save it for a race because revving that high that often on a stock top end is just asking for trouble ...so try a run next time your out driving and throw her ass at 7 and see what i mean ...youll be happy

possessedcricket
05-05-2004, 11:03 AM
I have an SI that had indiglo gauges on it. I always thought something was a little off when I found out SI's are suppost to redline at 7200 and I was taking mine to 8200. So I took them off and found out they were wrong and the stocks were behind them. Still shift at 8200 though, if I'm not smoking a cancer stick or on the phone. :smokin: You should try doing all three at once :screwy:

Tranzlogic
05-05-2004, 02:03 PM
8200 on a single cam Vtec is retarted bro ... your gonna spin a bearing drivin like that, the fuel cuts on the SOHC Vtec at like 7600 ..whatever floats your boat bro, but id say youve been lucky so far and wouldnt push it any further, the b16 DOHC vtec has an 8200 redline so that was the gauge you were running in there im sure

possessedcricket
05-05-2004, 02:30 PM
I did state that clearly. It was at 8200 on the old ones and 7600 on the right ones, but I don't shift there. I shift just before redline so that it doesn't take it above redline. Normal driving I shift at 3000 to 3500, unless I feel like ripping through first to get a nice 2nd and then shift low rpms (just to out of the hole at a light etc...)

Tranzlogic
05-05-2004, 04:57 PM
even shifting at 7600 when racing isnt a good idea because your over-line and your at your fuel cut..good way to blow her up. i also think that shifting at 3k is too low ..but this is all just my 2cents

possessedcricket
05-05-2004, 05:29 PM
I don't even race my car anymore, plus I need a new clutch. I'm not trying to be rude, but it sounds like your clownin on me BRO. I just gave my opinion to help, no be criticized.

Tranzlogic
05-05-2004, 05:44 PM
just throwing in my opinion as well...if i was getting on you ( which i really dont on here unless its about taillights ) you would know it ! i was just letting you know not to rev it that high in case you didnt know and were doing so...so in all fact, i was just tryin to help

possessedcricket
05-06-2004, 08:40 AM
what is your opinion on tail lights

94SolGrl
05-06-2004, 10:50 AM
Cricket.... congratulations... you just got your first thread locked. Why? Here's why....

1 - your last post about tails... wtf does that have to do with shifting? Nothing. Don't pull threads off topic. This is NOT a free for all. --Tranzlogic this applies to you as well. --

2 - If you have an Si, you are not pulling her up to 8200 unless you have some pretty major work done. 8200 is the redline on the B16a3, which is found in the 94/95 DOHC VTEC models. You bought the gauges for that model, not an Si, and I suggest getting the correct gauges, so you know what your RPMs really are.

3 - Lose your attitude. No explanation needed. But I will tell you that keeping a hotheaded and cocky attitude will get you nowhere but banned. I don't put up with that shit.

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