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GReddy: Good or Bad Choice?TSRyder6 04-11-2004, 03:08 PM I've decided to put Turbo in my car and I'm currently looking at the GReddy Turbo Kit (Bolt On)...I'm not really planning on running high PSI, prolly 6 or 7 PSI. Can ya'll tell me some good and bad things you know or heard about GReddy Kits? Thanks! Tranzlogic 04-12-2004, 05:05 PM Well if your only gonna be runnin 6 or so psi then theres nothing wrong with the greddy kit persay. I would get the T3/T4 kit which is what im sure your looking at. that is there best most reliable kit in my opinion and its also very common so help is never hard to find. the Greddy kits lag in some performance aspects but the are very " show " looking so since your not going all out crazy i think you would be the happiest with it since it will work great for what you want..Looks show quality which is what im sure you want and it doesnt have a huge intercooler that will block your radiator which im sure you need...Go for it my man, Its prolly the best for your needs..but let me know if its not tran_nsx 04-13-2004, 02:22 PM what kind of car u got? with the greddy kit, its a well rounded system and the best part is that its 50 state legal. the down side, its doesn't produce as much power as other kits, unless u start upgrading the turbo and parts. but as u said, ur only looking for 6 to 7 psi so this kit is great for u. Well if your only gonna be runnin 6 or so psi then theres nothing wrong with the greddy kit persay. I would get the T3/T4 kit which is what im sure your looking at. that is there best most reliable kit in my opinion and its also very common so help is never hard to find. the Greddy kits lag in some performance aspects but the are very " show " looking so since your not going all out crazy i think you would be the happiest with it since it will work great for what you want..Looks show quality which is what im sure you want and it doesnt have a huge intercooler that will block your radiator which im sure you need...Go for it my man, Its prolly the best for your needs..but let me know if its not not trying to call u out or anything, but greddy doesn't have a t3/t4 kit, and last time i checked, the kit doesn't offer a intercooler either, but you can purchase one as an upgrade. maybe maxspeedhonda can clarify since he has one in his civic. XixGenuinexiX 04-13-2004, 04:25 PM The Greddy Kit does not come with an intercooler. They also don't come with a T3/T04e or B, they use mitsubishi turbo's. 18G turbo to be exact. The 15G is in the 92-95 Ex, and 19T for 96-00 i believe. SleeperCivic 04-13-2004, 11:57 PM There's definitely nothing wrong with the Greddy kit. I've been running the 15G kit on my 99 EX for about 3 years now without a problem. Of course, I added larger injectors, AFC, clutch, BOV, and FMIC and it runs like a dream! 13.9 on 11psi - stock internals, stock timing. TSRyder6 04-14-2004, 12:53 AM i'm glad ya'll think its a good kit to go with...i've got a 98 GS-R and i've looked up a kit at greddy.com and its freakin 3K. Will it be a good kit for my car and is there a site for a cheaper price....thanks yall! :naughty: TSRyder6 04-14-2004, 12:54 AM one more thing...exactly how much HP will i get running 6 or 7 PSI? tran_nsx 04-14-2004, 01:13 AM one more thing...exactly how much HP will i get running 6 or 7 PSI? at 6 or 7 psi, ur looking at about 200-210 whp without the fmic. 3 grand is about the right price for retail, but u can always get it at a better price somewhere else. try http://www.turbo-kits.com/, they should have it for almost half the price. if ur interested, i can get u a better performance turbo kit at a lower price greddy is charging, but thats up to you. chixSI 04-14-2004, 07:29 AM i have the TDO5-18G for my car and i'm loving it! haven't had any problems! easy to install (took about 5-6 hours) and it runs really nice! i say go for it!!! btw, retail is $3149.00 TSRyder6 04-14-2004, 09:13 AM thanks trannsx i was looking at www.turbo-kits.com and greddy kit is 2999 dollers... :eek: and this is what it comes with it GReddy Integra Turbo Kits Include: - Mitsubishi Spec TD05/06-18G Turbo - GReddy Cast-Iron Manifolds - GReddy Cast-Iron Downpipe - GReddy Heat Shield - Ext. Type T Wastegates - GReddy E-manage - (4) GReddy 310cc Injectors - GReddy Airinx AY-SB - All Necessary Piping - All Necessary Hardware so it doesn't come with a blow off valve (which i think its important, and of course no intercooler) so the price is whats holding me down! P.S. Aiyo Tran what cheaper turbo can u get me? my AIM is JDMRidah04 SleeperCivic 04-14-2004, 09:29 AM Yah, those prices are EXTREMEMLY high, even on the DRAG and Rev Hard kits. I'll PM you with my price - you just might like it. :iceslolan TSRyder6 04-14-2004, 09:29 AM ...if i get the intercooler and blow off valve too will the HP go up? SleeperCivic 04-14-2004, 09:33 AM ...if i get the intercooler and blow off valve too will the HP go up? The FMIC will raise it at LEAST 20whp - it's a dramatic increase. The BOV will help spool time and almost remove the chance of compressor surge. tran_nsx 04-14-2004, 10:05 AM my bad, when i glanced at the site, it says from 1599.00 but it appears for the gsr its still basically 3 grand. give me your email address so i can contact u, or u can contact me @ tran_nsx@msn.com and if u want to know more about the kit im talking about read this thread, http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=207953&page=3&pp=15. TSRyder6 04-14-2004, 12:09 PM nice nsx...this guy just told me that with the GReddy kit and Type S Blow Off Valve and Intercooler my car would run around 255whp! Is he right...how much ya'll think it would run? Sleeper already said with FMIC itll gain at least 20whp! Wut ya'll think? :sly: tran_nsx 04-14-2004, 01:40 PM a bov won't give u any performance power at all, only the intercooler. 255 whp is kinda high if u ask me, w/ a fmic, 8-9 psi, and tuned on the greddy kit, you'll will see 230-240 whp. these are numbers i got from a guy i met two weeks ago who has the kit for his 98 gsr, to be exact the guy had 239whp. SleeperCivic 04-14-2004, 03:29 PM a bov won't give u any performance power at all No, but it will help spool time and prevent compressor surge. :iceslolan DeleriousZ 04-14-2004, 06:24 PM i'm not exactly clear how a bov helps spool time... what i'm thinking is that it doesn't help at all on the spool up, but helps when you reach full boost then let off the accelerator... the bov goes off to prevent air from being forced back into the compressor and slowing it down?? am i right or totally off? SleeperCivic 04-14-2004, 06:49 PM i'm not exactly clear how a bov helps spool time... what i'm thinking is that it doesn't help at all on the spool up, but helps when you reach full boost then let off the accelerator... the bov goes off to prevent air from being forced back into the compressor and slowing it down?? am i right or totally off? You're 1/2 right. By allowing the air to escape and not getting forced back into the compressor, the turbo will spool easier than it would if the air was being forced against it. Think about it this way: will a wheel spin faster when it's free of outside resistance or slower? It's all about pressure. :wink: DeleriousZ 04-14-2004, 06:57 PM yeah i thought so... just on a side note (sorry for the flame) how is that hks ssq bov working for ya sleepercivic? SleeperCivic 04-14-2004, 07:04 PM yeah i thought so... just on a side note (sorry for the flame) how is that hks ssq bov working for ya sleepercivic? I love it. I have also had the Type S and like the HKS a lot more. It's only my opinion, though. Some people like the Type S or RFL a lot better. I would post my video link up here, but my computer crashed last night and I lost my IIS store. :disappoin tran_nsx 04-14-2004, 09:18 PM No, but it will help spool time and prevent compressor surge. :iceslolan true; however, its more of a safety device than anything else. DeleriousZ 04-14-2004, 09:42 PM a safety device that turns heads everywhere you go ;) yeah that's too bad about your comp sleepercivic.. it'd be cool to hear what one sounds like TSRyder6 04-15-2004, 12:45 AM ait i've decided to buy the GReddy Kit and since it doesn't come with a blow off valve i have decided to get the GReddy Type S Blow Off Valve...I also wanna buy an Intercooler...i'm looking at GReddy as well but is there a better one i could get that goes well with the GReddy Turbo Kit?? Thanks! Drifter To Be 04-15-2004, 12:41 PM hey how does the Type S BOV sound compared to the HKS?? which BOV would u recommend and why? thanks all tran_nsx 04-15-2004, 01:27 PM ait i've decided to buy the GReddy Kit and since it doesn't come with a blow off valve i have decided to get the GReddy Type S Blow Off Valve...I also wanna buy an Intercooler...i'm looking at GReddy as well but is there a better one i could get that goes well with the GReddy Turbo Kit?? Thanks! sounds to me like your starting to head towards the performance side and not having this kit for the looks and a bit of power. if u want performance kit, greddy isn't the way to go, especially when u have to upgrade and purchased other parts that would have been in other kits already. also by after adding all these other items your kit won't be 50 state legal anymore, especially in cali. just a heads up. if u are going to buy greddy kit, keep it the way it is to pass smog, but if u want more power go with something else. SleeperCivic 04-15-2004, 01:51 PM sounds to me like your starting to head towards the performance side and not having this kit for the looks and a bit of power. if u want performance kit, greddy isn't the way to go, especially when u have to upgrade and purchased other parts that would have been in other kits already. also by after adding all these other items your kit won't be 50 state legal anymore, especially in cali. just a heads up. if u are going to buy greddy kit, keep it the way it is to pass smog, but if u want more power go with something else. I can see now that you have something against Greddy because it's Greddy. I can tell you right now that Greddy makes AWESOME products at very good prices. People think they're cheaply made because they're cheaply priced. What other kit comes with a fully tuneable piggy-back for under $3k that you won't need to get a custom manifold, downpipe, and piping made? There isn't one. So, why is the Greddy kit not a "performance" kit? I could stick my little 15G turbo on a B series motor and make a crap load of power with the 15psi it'll push out efficiently. I can tell you that you're underestimating these kits. On another, just because it's not ball-bearing doesn't make it unreliable. I've had mine for over 3 years without a problem. Spool time isn't even an issue because the difference between a thrust- and ball-bearing turbo is so small, it isn't worth telling. Now, if you want to say screw the emissions and make a race car, there is no kit on the planet that will be good enough - custom is the only way to go. If you want performance, ease of installation, and reliability a Greddy kit is a good (and cheap) way to go. Don't make people convince you that because you're not going to spend $4k on a kit that you're buying a crappy product. Too bad Edelbrock doesn't make a kit for the Teg. tran_nsx 04-15-2004, 02:48 PM I can see now that you have something against Greddy because it's Greddy. I can tell you right now that Greddy makes AWESOME products at very good prices. People think they're cheaply made because they're cheaply priced. What other kit comes with a fully tuneable piggy-back for under $3k that you won't need to get a custom manifold, downpipe, and piping made? There isn't one. So, why is the Greddy kit not a "performance" kit? I could stick my little 15G turbo on a B series motor and make a crap load of power with the 15psi it'll push out efficiently. I can tell you that you're underestimating these kits. On another, just because it's not ball-bearing doesn't make it unreliable. I've had mine for over 3 years without a problem. Spool time isn't even an issue because the difference between a thrust- and ball-bearing turbo is so small, it isn't worth telling. Now, if you want to say screw the emissions and make a race car, there is no kit on the planet that will be good enough - custom is the only way to go. If you want performance, ease of installation, and reliability a Greddy kit is a good (and cheap) way to go. Don't make people convince you that because you're not going to spend $4k on a kit that you're buying a crappy product. Too bad Edelbrock doesn't make a kit for the Teg. i have nothing against greddy i'll let u know that right now. my m/x catback exhaust system is from greddy, but that is besides the point. this kit is perfect for someone who is looking for a kit that can pass smog have good power at the same time, but if your looking for performance there are better kits out there. the greddy's gsr 18g turbo efficiency is only at about 300hp which is great, but by the time u have this much, u can't pass smog in california. what my point is, if ur going to upgrade and increase the power u should might as well get a better kit from the get go. for example, the fmax(turbonetics) kit includes everything u need and more. it comes with a hybrid t3/t4 efficient to 400-450 hp, and not including that but it also incudes ball bearing to help with the spool time, not just reliabilty. this kit also comes with a high carbon cast-steel ceramic coated manifold, unlike greddy's cast iron, and it has an msd boost timing manager. another thing it it includes is a spearco intercooler and turbonetics raptor blow off valve. now this is what i would call a fully complete turbo kit. hell it even includes a case of turbo synthetic motor oil and a k&n air filter. by far the fmax kit surpasses the greddy in performance, quality, and accessories, the only difference is the price and the fmax kit isn't carb certified, but know one said quailty is cheap. retail, the fmax kit cost from 3800-4900, i can get at a very awesome discount, and yes even lower than the 3000 greddy kit which doesn't even off an intercooler or bov. in the long run, the greddy kit will be more expensive due to the fact the u have to upgrade all these items at a retail price. even then it won't make as much power as the fmax or rev hard kits. why? mainly from the smaller turbo that the greddy kits come with unless u upgrade that too something bigger. again i just want to repeat, i have nothing against greddy, but there are better kits out there if u want more power. TSRyder6 04-15-2004, 04:38 PM all ya'll got some excellent points!...I didn't know that adding a blow off valve and intercooler will make the kit street illegal (I live in Cali). I'm still sticking with GReddy cuz like i said im only gon run 6 o 7 PSI... :smile: tran_nsx 04-15-2004, 08:03 PM something u should know, read this for the greddy kit: http://www.turbomagazine.com/tech/0210tur_bolton1/ DeleriousZ 04-16-2004, 12:37 AM woah.. 160ish whp... is that really worth 3 grand? TSRyder6 04-16-2004, 01:00 AM aww man now that i've read this i need to think more...the thing is i want a kit thats legal u kno, thats important to me cuz where i live at there are LOTS of cops and if i go out with my integ (which is very loud) there is a high chance i'll get pulled over...basically if there is a kit thats better then GReddy i'll look at it but it must be street LEGAL!! tran_nsx 04-16-2004, 03:26 AM aww man now that i've read this i need to think more...the thing is i want a kit thats legal u kno, thats important to me cuz where i live at there are LOTS of cops and if i go out with my integ (which is very loud) there is a high chance i'll get pulled over...basically if there is a kit thats better then GReddy i'll look at it but it must be street LEGAL!! i hope im not deterring u from getting this kit, like i said earlier this is a great kit if u want some extra power and still pass smog but just keep it the way it is to be on the safe side. woah.. 160ish whp... is that really worth 3 grand? :iagree: xsimpleaznx 04-16-2004, 02:04 PM the greddy kit is good up to about 300hp, thats a rough 13 second car right there, which launches the integra into the sti class. youre not going to need much more than that on the streets right? im in cali and worry about getting pulled over too, so im also going to go w/ the greddy kit. anything over 300hp is kind of useless for street driving to me, that type of power should be left to the track where its safe. anybody got a good price on a used greddy kit? tran_nsx 04-16-2004, 06:34 PM anybody got a good price on a used greddy kit? dam, i could've hooked u up. the guy i met with the gsr and greddy kit had an extra used greddy kit lying around he didn't need. he wanted to sell it to me for a very good price, but i had no need for it. too bad i didn't ask for his number, maybe he will call since i gave him my number telling him to give me a call whenever he wants to sell his integ. xsimpleaznx 04-16-2004, 06:57 PM thanks for trying to look out, but yeah if anybody out in the bay area, ca or ca that has a greddy turbo kit, drop me a line. curious what price quote did u get for it? intercooled, non intercooled? but back to topic of greddy kits, i have heard that the cops out here will give u a ticket regardless of street legality or not just cuz they dislike imports, but w/ a carb number, it should make it much easier to fight in court i figure. tran_nsx 04-16-2004, 07:08 PM im in the bay area so if he calls i'll let u know. about the kit, i didn't ask for specifics such as price and whats included, he just told me he wants to get rid of it. i kinda doubt he would have another intercooler lying around, but u never know. TSRyder6 04-16-2004, 09:59 PM hehe damn lots of people from the bay area..i'm from the bay too! SleeperCivic 04-17-2004, 11:38 AM something u should know, read this for the greddy kit: http://www.turbomagazine.com/tech/0210tur_bolton1/ That's also the old Greddy kit with steel piping and the blue box. The newer kits come with the E-Manage, which is 1000% better and can be tuned. The benefits of aluminum piping are a no-brainer. Also, that $3200 price tag is MSRP. I'm sure you guys don't buy for retail, do you? :uhoh: civic2457 05-03-2004, 10:29 PM Hey, I read some of the replies and I have a GReddy Turbo Kit With the intercooler kit, for sale. I never installed it because I got a new motor. It's all brand new still in plastic wrap and original GReddy boxes. I will let it go for $2500 for both together. Thanks, PM or E-mail me if your interested. SleeperCivic 05-03-2004, 10:32 PM Hey, I read some of the replies and I have a GReddy Turbo Kit With the intercooler kit, for sale. I never installed it because I got a new motor. It's all brand new still in plastic wrap and original GReddy boxes. I will let it go for $2500 for both together. Thanks, PM or E-mail me if your interested. Not to be a dick, but I sell them together brand new for just over $2k. Nobody is going to pay for retail. If it doesn't come from the distributor or Greddy, consider it used. hondaboy2153 05-04-2004, 09:40 PM look at city-speed.com and on ebay at there items, I picked up a kit with a intercooler for 2699 for a 99 si which retails from greddy for 3949 hondaboy2153 05-04-2004, 09:45 PM your kit for a 98 gsr is around 2200 w/o I.C. TSRyder6 05-05-2004, 01:14 AM hmm... :) lots of websites...but i'm definitely looking for the best price!! SleeperCivic 05-05-2004, 09:57 AM look at city-speed.com and on ebay at there items, I picked up a kit with a intercooler for 2699 for a 99 si which retails from greddy for 3949 I agree with this guy. They have the cheapest prices for the larger kits. I still beat them for the 15G kits. :smokin: rollaracer94 05-05-2004, 05:21 PM hey i dunno if its legal or not but u can build ur own turbo kit probly under 2 grand and get decent fuel management... and probly more power than greddy if u tune it rite... thats just my .02 but try www.homemadeturbo.com it'll show u some examples of homemade turbo kits TSRyder6 05-05-2004, 08:18 PM naw they aint legal..i was thinkin bout doing that but like i said im only gon be running 6 or 7 PSI and i want something legal so GReddy is perfect! hybrid180 05-07-2004, 02:41 AM something u should know, read this for the greddy kit: http://www.turbomagazine.com/tech/0210tur_bolton1/ Keep in mind the link above shows you a Greddy Kit on a LS, not a GSR which is what I think your car is right? Here is the link for a Greddy kit on a GSR: http://www.turbomagazine.com/tech/0210tur_bolton3/ Scroll to the bottom of the link, they test a white teg. It is actually about 255whp w/ intercooler. BTW, I live in Cali and have the Greddy kit on my 96 GSR, with a blowoff valve and the Greddy Intercooler... no problems passing the smog at all with everything listed still bolted on. Make sure people are giving you valid info..., like the link from Tran_nsx would not be applicable since thats a Greddy on an LS, not even the same engine as the GSR, which is why the numbers turned up so low. Also just as long as you don't modify the turbo manifold, or the turbo, you should be fine with passing the smog no problems. Otherwise you won't even pass the visual inspection part of the smog in Cali. Oh, you also have to keep the heat shield on the turbo manifold in order to pass smog. TSRyder6 05-07-2004, 03:35 PM wow thanks for the website hybrid....its really helpful!! I'm releaved that you said that u have a blow off valve and an intercooler and u still passed the smog...also the tested integra had around 255whp, thats about what i'm looking for....THANKS man!! :biggrin: vtec92civic 05-15-2004, 09:59 AM you got PM . . . greddy is for more of just like extra passing power :) SleeperCivic 05-15-2004, 10:09 AM you got PM . . . greddy is for more of just like extra passing power :) That's the most retarded thing I've ever read and a waste of my time reading it. Please state FACTS and not your childish opinion. TSRyder6 05-15-2004, 07:09 PM LOL@sleepercivic... :lol: vtec92civic 05-16-2004, 03:10 AM That's the most retarded thing I've ever read and a waste of my time reading it. Please state FACTS and not your childish opinion. that is a fact . . . hows about I say GReddy Turbo Kits suck then . . . make you feel a little better. Don't start with your worthless post. instead of replying with worthless shit why don't you post up some facts since you seem to think you are "god" :loser: SleeperCivic 05-16-2004, 06:26 AM that is a fact . . . hows about I say GReddy Turbo Kits suck then . . . make you feel a little better. Don't start with your worthless post. instead of replying with worthless shit why don't you post up some facts since you seem to think you are "god" :loser: They suck compared to what?? YOUR turbo setup? Oh, wait.... I forgot that you're not or never were boosted. So, who gives a crap what you have to say - someone with no first hand experience talks a lot of shit. Back it up, bitch. http://import-velocity.no-ip.org/GAYALARM.GIF ^^^ Yeah, you did that. :iceslolan vtec92civic 05-16-2004, 06:14 PM They suck compared to what?? YOUR turbo setup? Oh, wait.... I forgot that you're not or never were boosted. So, who gives a crap what you have to say - someone with no first hand experience talks a lot of shit. Back it up, bitch. http://import-velocity.no-ip.org/GAYALARM.GIF ^^^ Yeah, you did that. :iceslolan looks like you've brought your drama from the other forums over to this one I see. Taking up bandwidth with your useless posts. Where does it say I am not boosted? Guess that's why they say you're a retard. I thought you knew it all there buddy? Not sure who shoved a stick up your ass but thy must have got you good, because you went from someone kewl to a little crying ass bitch who seems to talk a lot of shit. You can bad mouth whatever you want, and whoever you want since there is a thing called freedom of speach, but it doesn't mean nothing unless you got facts really. If you really must know I have been boosted, and there was pics of my setup up on turbo D, and then I sold that setup to move onto something a little bigger and better. Stop bitching, nobody really cares. Ask anyone what they think of Greddy, don't get offended because they suck it's the truth. They are good kits to start off with if you want some ok power like I mentioned above "passing power" but have you seen anyone put down 500whp with a Greddy Kit? I didn't think so . . . that's why I say that Greddy is not a kit that's gona give you killer #'s it's just a simple bolt on kit that was designed to give you some performance while still being realiable. Is that a little better for you? SleeperCivic 05-16-2004, 07:25 PM [QUOTE=vtec92civic]looks like you've brought blah blah blah blah blah[QUOTE] You a freakin moron. Who makes a kit that will put out 500hp? That would be more of a "custom kit" than anything. If you think adding about 100whp on a D is "passing power", then you're really dazed. If it was an Apexi kit, you'd say "oh, that's awesome!" but because it's Greddy sucks. You have your personal opinion - that's fine. You just don't have any facts to back up your acusations you're blasting off on this thread. Yeah, my 15G maxes out at 15psi but the 18G can take at least 20psi. What would that do on a B series motor? I think that's a little more than "passing power". So, now that we know you just don't like it because it says "Greddy" and that you have no actual data for us we can conclude you're full of shit and have no real information to offer than your opinion. Next time, why don't you start those type of statements off with "I think..." so we know what to expect. Otherwise, know what the fuck you're talking about before you look stupid....AGAIN. Also, if you look at when I joined you'd know that I've been around here for a while - unlike yourself. I recommend what people are looking for, not something I want to sell - unlike yourself. vtec92civic 05-17-2004, 01:11 PM i'll just say whatever sleeper . . . . i'm not down to jack someones thread. If you're getting offended because you own a greddy kit well not sure what to say. It depends at how you look at things for that "passing power" comment. Yes 100hp from the Greddy Kits is extra passing power when you got people making 300hp+ with a custom kit. Like I said earlier . . . Greddy is quality to an extent. I have seen numerous manifolds crack, and the turbos are just really small, but if you are talking about just straight bolt on hp and don't plan to build your internals then yes Greddy is by all means the way to go. As for your comment about me saying "ohh that's awesome" if it was Apex'i, uhh no I don't really like there turbo kits either, but they do make some other good products. Not everyone is going to feel the same way that you do about Greddy, so just accept the fact that everyone is entitled to their own opinion even if you think it's bullshit, or that my opinion doesn't matter, that's alright, but it's not up to you to decide what products I like or dislike, just let it me already, and let this guys thread move on. hybrid180 05-18-2004, 05:53 PM vtec92civic, I think you kinda missed the point of this thread in the first place. The reason this thread was started was because this guy wants to know if the Greddy kit is good for boosting about 7 or 6 PSI on a GSR. In addition to the fact he wants it carb legal. Both of which the Greddy fits the bill perfectly. In terms of power, yes there are better kits out there compared to the Greddy, however none of them are carb legal. For example the Rev Hard kit, and it is cheaper, not to mention going a custom setup is even better. I think what Sleeper is saying is that Greddy is a good kit, one in which you get more then just "passing power." However, vtec92civic, what I think you're saying is that Greddy is only ok, but other kits should be looked at. But in this situation, the Greddy kit would apply since the author wants only 6-7 PSI boost and to be carb legal. vBulletin®, Copyright ©2009, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
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