The June issue of 4wheel & Offroad has a great Mud Tire shootout. Here are some of the scores:


#1 Swamper Bogger
distance in the mud pit (ft) 100

#2 Swamper SSR
distance in the mud pit (ft) 75

#3 Goodyear MTR
distance in the mud pit (ft) 63.9

#4 Swamper TSL
distance in the mud pit (ft) 59.7

#5 Gumbo Mudder
distance in the mud pit (ft) 58.2

#6 BFG MT
distance in the mud pit (ft) 60

#7 Mickey Thompson Baja Claws
distance in the mud pit (ft) 43.9

#8 Pro comp mudders
distance in the mud pit (ft) 54.2

#9 Yokohama Geolander MT
distance in the mud pit (ft) 43.8

There are lots of other factors involved in the scoring such as flotation, steering, launch, hill climb, and cleaning. I highly suggest picking the issue up if you are shopping for tires.

Mosi

Whohooo. Now I just need to find a 74 foot mud pit to go play in with my SSR's.

FYI they miscalculated the points for the BFG Mud, if added up it places 5th a point or two behind the TSL.

FIgures.... I guess they know 4wheeling and not math :p

Yep, good article but obviously focused on 'mud pit racing' which none of us do very much ... I want to see an article like this but based on the rocks. Doesn't matter too much, my next tire will still be a 33" TSL. :)

Originally posted by Philosopher
Yep, good article but obviously focused on 'mud pit racing' which none of us do very much ... I want to see an article like this but based on the rocks. Doesn't matter too much, my next tire will still be a 33" TSL. :)

Here is one that I know of... http://www.4x4review.com/products/tires/tsl_vs_bfg.asp

You have probably already seen it though.

Originally posted by Mosi


Here is one that I know of... http://www.4x4review.com/products/tires/tsl_vs_bfg.asp

You have probably already seen it though.


Yeah, I saw that one ... but a good article to read if you haven't!

The points for the mud bog were not the only points...the ranking was based upon several other tests, such as a hill climb, etc....and the BFG lost points...So the GY MT/R beat it in the Mud, and on trails and rocks too.

(There was No math mistake! BFG LOST to GY, and ended up mid-pack)

Also - The three BFG sidewalls are less tough than the MT/R's side walls, and the TSL's too. (The outer BFG layer is practically cosmetic anyway if you cross section it....which I have)

I have run BFG's MT and AT's. I have not seen the new MT version on a trail yet...I hear it looks more butch, but works about the same. The MT/R's do clean out mud well, Better than the BFG MT. This is supported by the Mud Pit results above actually, as well as my own observations.

Food for thought.

If they were all free, this would be an easier choice...Boggers. :)

;)


- Lance

Originally posted by Philosopher
Doesn't matter too much, my next tire will still be a 33" TSL. :)

Ahhh, the good old days back when you still had some good sense!
:p

Originally posted by Lance

If they were all free, this would be an easier choice...Boggers. :)

;)


- Lance

Lance,

I thought about running Boggers as my off-road tire on Project X. But Boggers are really wide, which is one of the reasons they are so good in the mud. This kind of nipped that in the bud. A 31" Bogger has a 12.5" section width. Since I needed tall but narrower, I had to go to what I consider next best, the Swamper. The width is great in the mud, but the lower height didn't make it practical for what I wanted. Another positive side to the Bogger is that it is easily tread modified for custom tire building. It's not to tough to turn them into a paddle tire. But because they use a softer rubber, they do wear out quicker. A lot of our guys here use them in some sort of custom-cut configuration for mud racing.

Some of the jeeps here in the NW run boggers with siping that makes the rectangular chevrons into cubes around the entire tire.

Originally posted by swampwrecker


Ahhh, the good old days back when you still had some good sense!
:p

Yep, oh well. I'll just have to deal with a wider tire that is much quieter and lasts thousands of miles longer than a Swamper.

:finger:

Originally posted by Philosopher


Yep, oh well. I'll just have to deal with a wider tire that is much quieter and lasts thousands of miles longer than a Swamper.

:finger:

I am just going to do what I used to do on my Jeep, run two sets of tires. Swampers for the radical trips and ProComp ATs for road driving. I will spend extra money having two sets of tires, but my swampers will last longer by not being full-time tires. I figure cost-wise it will all even out in the end.

Originally posted by Philosopher


Yep, oh well. I'll just have to deal with a wider tire that is much quieter and lasts thousands of miles longer than a Swamper.

:finger:

Don't go gettin' pissy with me because you didn't buy the tires you've said you wanted for the last year!

Just remember how important those quiet tires are when you're stranded at the bottom of an obstacle and I'm laughin' my ass off at how well those quiet tires perform off-road.

:finger: right back at you!!

Originally posted by swampwrecker

Just remember how important those quiet tires are when you're stranded at the bottom of an obstacle and I'm laughin' my ass off at how well those quiet tires perform off-road.



Yeah. We shall see buddy!