Alright....i'm 16...HUUUGE initial D fan....can't drift right now but i'm hoping i'll learn soon....ne wayz....saved up money to get a 1997 Honda Prelude.... yah, i know...its a FF but it's sexy and it'll do in the snow (from toronto)...just wanted some advice if it's worth buying....u know....good first car, reliable, fast, whatever you think you should tell me....your advice would be greatly aprreciated....dont wanna blow my hard earned money....(ps...got $8000 canadian to spend)

THanks.

dont rush into it. If you can, do some research before you buy. Buying a car for looks is not always good.:2cents:

Yeah... Honda's suck too! Buy a Nissan...

depending on how much snow you actually get, mayb you should look towards a 4WD/AWD vehicle. The AWD will be great in the snow, and you can slide around with it in the rain snow, and with some work it is possible to drift a AWD car, its different than an RWD drift (but still better than FWD trying to drift).

What car should i get??? (this is my first car)

Hoju, the 98 or 99 impreza isent that bad for a first car and its also Bunta's car so it rocks.
I'm also from canada (MOntreal),so in the snow it would be great.
The prelude is amazingly looking, but forget about it if you want to drift whit it, draging maybe its good but drifting no its an ff.
for an fr car an 240 98-99 is also a great choice.
hope i helped you in any way.

Impreza's are nice... but where are you gonna get one for $8,000 (98-99)? Well, if you can get it... but I would get a 240sx or even an FC Rx7...

It's true what you said 1viadrft you can't get an impreza for 8k but you can for 10k ca that im sure.

hoju I am also 16 and am getting a car too. What im getting is a 325ci or i E30 BMW. E30s are 3series BMWs from 1984 to 1990. They are RWD and pretty light weight. (about 2600lbs) So those two things right there make for a good drifter. Also stock they make 183 tq and 168 hp. TQ is also another good thing for drifting. Plus their engines are made of iron so that makes them really tuff and good for turbo. With your money you could get a nice E30 for less then $2000US. Then with the rest of your money turbo it and kick some major ass. Just think... a car you can drift with, drag with, and own cars that cost twice as much in the corners :naughty: One more thing look for the 325i or 325ci. Dont get the 325e.

Heres a pic of a E30. Hes making 600+hp and 600+TQ. With N20 over 700hp
http://bimmerforums.com/grfx/e34biturbom3.jpg

Another nice E30
http://images.cardomain.com/member_images/9/web/225000-225999/225533_10.jpg

So just another car you could consider

hmmm....i'm not really looking for germans right now....i know their great machines but the japs still turn me on more..... There are no mountains in toronto sooo i'm probably looking at drag more than drift even though i would love to drift with it too.... tell me what u guys have and if it would be right for me...i'd really appreciate it...thanx.

Well if you want cheap and drag get a 5.0 mustang. Cheap to make fast and with right suspension can drift very well. You could get a nice 5.0 for about $2000US.

I'm also 16 and looking for a car. Going by my preferences I will probably get an MR2 (sw) or a 240sx (s13 or s14). I saw a '91 mr2 na 5speed for USD$2400.
For an FR, an S13 or S14 would be a good bet,
and if you want 4wd try the Celica all-trac (gt4).

how much are u gettin the MR2 for.... there's not many in toronto..... it's all about civics here...not interested in them.... i was lookin for a 240SX too....300ZX pretty nice too...don't want 4wd...FR maybe even AWD.

You don't want a 4WD, but you might want AWD.
lmfao

why is that funny Jeff?

Well 4wd and AWD are kind of the same. Its just the name 4wd is just used more with trucks and AWD with cars. However they pretty much mean the same thing. Thats why I think jeff finds that funny

actually, from what i understand, a 4wd car can often be changed between 4wd and 2wd (usually rwd), and these setups are often found on trucks/jeeps. Awd can be changed, and always powers all 4 wheels (unless it has that nissan computer controlled awd on their skylines), and is usually found on cars. so yes, 4wd and Awd are actually different.

oh....hehe.....i'm kinda dumb...didnt mean to get into all that....hehee.....oh.....something i wanna ask u guys..... not related to anything but..... how did u guys watch your initial D eps?...DVD or dowload off od Bittorrent or something???

No, I somehow bought all of my stuff (manga, new vol28, 1st/2nd/3rd stage) "at a local bookstore". ;)
And 4WD/AWD is the same thing.

Found this on a site...

ALL WHEEL DRIVE:

Definition: A vehicle where all four wheels are driven, but there's no transfer case like a four-wheel drive rig. Most AWD setups are full time systems for year-round driving, and use a viscous fluid coupling center differential instead of a transfer case to route drive torque to all four wheels. This allows the front and rear wheels to turn at slightly different speeds when turning on dry pavement. Most folks do not consider this the same as four-wheel drive. It can be useful (and more fuel economical) in pavement driving where you're mainly negotiating bad weather conditions.



FOUR WHEEL DRIVE


Definition: A method of driving a vehicle by applying engine torque to all four wheels thru the use of a transfer case, differentials and hubs. Various schemes are used for 4WD including part-time, full-time and variable four-wheel drive. To help cut the drive train drag (and reduced fuel economy) that most 4WD's have, a transfer case is included that allows the driver to select either two- or four-wheel drive depending on driving conditions. Some performance cars have full-time variable four-wheel drive and use a computer-controlled transfer case to route power between the wheels.



It's important to note that even in 4WD, you still have only two driving wheels; one front; one rear. A normal passenger car is essentially one wheel drive, because the other one can slip. So a 4WD rig, with the front axle engaged, now has two wheels driving. Then if you add a locker to the rear, you've added one more wheel, to make your rig three-wheel drive. Add a locker to the front, so no tires can spin, and you have TRUE, 4-wheel drive, all four wheels driving.

get a car YOU like, not what we want you to get. ima get a Talon/eclipse GSX AWD turbo, and im gona make it drift..some how...well, just get a car you want, cuz if it aint, u WILL regret thatcat you got.

THat's tru man... you got some good advice bro...

I recommend
http://www.oldbug.com/
But that's due to personal preference...
and the fact they have turbo engine swaps for them too
:) you know?
I admit defeat on the AWD/4WD issue :o
but if you looked at it from my point of view, it was teh funneh :D

And why do you ask what car to get on an Initial D forum?

Oh.... cause i like initial D and i want to know how to drift....and that's why i want to know what car is the best for me?

...... let's just write his obituiary early if that's how he's going to buy a car lol j/k

Save your InitialD tokens for the upcoming SKYLINE GTR arriving in 2007...

Get yourself a 240sx that was the car i was searching for before i got the amazing deal for my fd3s.

do you have pics of your FD in the pic gallery?

He's lying!!! LoL... damn kids!

My friend in the MARINE CORPS actually bought an '95 FD3S in OKINAWA, JAPAN where he is stationed! He paid a whopping $5,000 for her... fully and heavily tuned!! He told me about an R32 in the news-paper over there going for about $500!!! I'm not sure on it's condition, but if I was there now I'd buy it!

another choice:

S12 Silvia, in the US it's called 200SX sold between 84 and 88. The USDM version came with three engine varieties: CA20E, CA18ET and VG30E.

It'd make a great drifter 'cos it's FR and relatively light (ie. 2 doors, 2 seats). but also makes great drag machine, 'cos it has a pretty big engine bay and you can stick pretty much any nissan RWD engine into it, including CA18DET, SR20DET, FJ20ET and even RB engines.

goto www.club-s12.org for more info.

ya or you could try and find either a 240SE, which has the S-13 shaped back and by a JDM S-13 conversation clip. Then It would look like an S-13. OR a 240SX, which was built after the S-14 model Silvia

Damn.... how'du guys learn so much about cars??? ... i wish i knew that much...then i wouldn't be having a problem...

hey tell us what kinda of car you end up getting ok?

No problem.... still about 2 - 3 months until i do though....plenty of time to think things over i guess.... Thanks for all the help people... really appreciated it.

You're 16 and you want to get a RWD car and drift with it? Heres my advice:

1. Get an FF and learn to drive. Its a sad truth that most people in the world just cannot admit that they cannot drive. They may be able to get from point A to B without hitting someone else's car but they wouldnt have full control of a car at the limit in a critical situation.

2. After you're a good enough daily driver, try a driving school like Evolution or Skip Barber. Then go to your local SOLO II AutoX events every weekend and after racing for a couple months and learning to control a car like your hands and feet, THEN get a RWD car.

Most underaged or novice drivers jump into a RWD sports car filled with dillusions of grandeur from their Initial D fantasies and end up loosing control of the car and could kill someone.

Also, STAY AWAY FROM THE MR2 or any other MR cars. Lift-throttle snap oversteer happens to even the most experienced drivers and you just might end up hurting someone.

if u want to drift so bad then dont buy a ff car like a prelude but if u dont really care then go ahead and buy it.

You're 16 and you want to get a RWD car and drift with it? Heres my advice:

1. Get an FF and learn to drive. Its a sad truth that most people in the world just cannot admit that they cannot drive. They may be able to get from point A to B without hitting someone else's car but they wouldnt have full control of a car at the limit in a critical situation.

2. After you're a good enough daily driver, try a driving school like Evolution or Skip Barber. Then go to your local SOLO II AutoX events every weekend and after racing for a couple months and learning to control a car like your hands and feet, THEN get a RWD car.

Most underaged or novice drivers jump into a RWD sports car filled with dillusions of grandeur from their Initial D fantasies and end up loosing control of the car and could kill someone.

Also, STAY AWAY FROM THE MR2 or any other MR cars. Lift-throttle snap oversteer happens to even the most experienced drivers and you just might end up hurting someone.

That is the BEST advice I've heard about this PERIOD. I SALUTE YOU LOL.
I'm using that to help someone LOL.

Lachean is definatly right, if you want to have any hopes of learning to drift you need to learn how to DRIVE first hehe, drifting is more than driving really fast and making your backend slide around. Go manual FF under $1000 is my advice for your first car.

Other than the drifting part, i always keep hearing that FR cars are sometimes easier to steer than FF cars. The whole wieght distribution thing and all.... is an FF really easier to drive than an FR?

ya or even a manu-matic where you can make the car shift....course it doesnt' work as well, but I do know some people who have made it work. lol
but to answer your question. It depends on your preferance, personally I think that FF cars are eaiser to drive because you don't need to turn the wheel as much to make the car respond, but of course there is the universal challenge with FF, understeer. I would agree with what is say above, go FF in SOME car before learning to drift. Learning to drive well first is cruital

hey hoju, where exactly can u get a 97 prelude for only $8000 that doesnt seam right i am from alberta and u cant get a single 97 for anywhere under $13000, but what i recomend u get is a 1988-1991 honda prelude, (i would recomend a 90 or 91 SR rather then a Si) the 88-91 prelude has a less powerful engine but you would notice it can still compete with a 97 because of its lighter body, and its still a really sweat lookin ride that u can get a 88 or 89 for a low as $2000 and a 90 or 91 for as low as $4000 can. (depending on condition) plus this is a very good car to start on if u want to drift. (it teaches u control) it may be a ff but u can still drift this prelude fairly well using left foot braking technique, thats how i have been drifting i aint that good yet but i am getting better.

i also found a awsome body kit for the 88-91 prelude check it out at http://www.andysautosport.com/honda/88_91prelude.html

i bought this same kit for my 90 SR and it looks awesome.

and if ur lookin for a bit extra power u can buy a imported straight from japan 97+ prelude H22A for another $2300 can. and then it would be even faster then ur 97 but still in buget
check that at totaljdm.com

its dead

lol....thanx for the advice man.... i didn't think anyone would still reply to this.... i was thinking of the old school ludes....but over the last few months, my interests went thorugh a wide variety of changes.... after my whole 97 lude faze, i started noticing the 240sx's of the early 90's....then i discovered the beuty of the 95 240's, but then i read up on 240's in canadian winters and apparently theres no system that can help them in the snow....soo....not wanting to crash my car and wind up in a ditch somewhere.... i was thinking....ok.... if i'm gonna get a car...it has to be FF cause i don't wanna screw up in the snow...... thats when i had to make a choice between eagle talons and celica's from the early 90's ..... and now....for my final decision...... I am going to buy a 1994 celica gt-s.... yah...i know....it's weak as hell..... but i realize that i don't need to drift.....right now. GT-S is appealing i guess cause apparently it has really good handling.... and i mean....i'm not gonna drag race anyone sooo.....oh yah...and it looks KOOOLLLL..... i know some of you who helped me might now agree with this decision....but i would just like to say.... Thank you to everyone who have helped me in this thread.,.... i have taken into consideration EVERYTHING you guys have told me..... again....THANK YOU

Your Buddy hoju