How do you like this monster??
550 HP , oh yeah!!
http://www.us.porsche.com/english/news/modelinformation/carreragt/bilder/ani.gif

Performance isn't even the beginning of it. I generally don't like Porsche styling, and this thing looks awesome.

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"Ferrari isn't a car, it's a lifestyle"
-Enzo Ferrari.

Quote: enzo@af ( 6:00 pm on Nov. 29, 2000 )

Performance isn't even the beginning of it. I generally don't like Porsche styling, and this thing looks awesome.

I agree, I generally never found anything exiciting Porsches, but believe me a nice 911 turbo gets me wanting, and that Carrera IS AMAZING!!!!! That is how a Porsche should be! Damn I need one!

Edited by: igor@af

I like it a lot. It's still distinctively Porsche, but it actually has some personality. It's different from the round headlight, slantback, basic look that porsche seems to always use. This is a break from that, and it has killer performance.

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"Ferrari isn't a car, it's a lifestyle"
-Enzo Ferrari.

I think the Carrera GT is a gem. While I don't care for the large door slits, I overall am pleased by the styling of it.

However, its styling also troubles me. Porshe has a history for unconventional engineering practices in constructing its automobiles. The best example of this is the 911. It uses a rear-engine design, which almost no one else uses, as having the engine centered over the rear wheels is just not as practical as a front or mid-engined layout. The looks of the 911 can be summed up in one phrase: form follows function. And while it may not have the most exciting appearance, many appreciate it for its fairly simple, graceful contours. I for one respect the fact that its contours do not favor flashy body designs, unlike almost any other automobile manufacturer, but rather are designed to minimize drag, to have the least detracting effect on performance, fuel economy, etc.

The engine itself is a hallmark of extraordinary design by not using a standard oil pan and crank case for lubricating engine components, but rather using a dry sump system that sprays the parts in a more precise fashion. And of course, the use of cylinders oriented sideways horizontally on both sides of the crankshaft (i.e. the "boxer" engine design) is a bold statement against conventional vehicle dynamics.

That being said, if this car were to be released by any other manufacturer, it would not trouble me. But the fact that Porsche has designed this car, with an external appearance that seems clearly influenced to me by new edge style design, and a V10 conventional cylinder arrangement engine, is a little disconcerting. To add to this, Porsche has moved away from air-cooled engines with the last generation of the 911, has released the 911 Turbo with an automatic transmission for the first time in history, and is working with Volkswagon on their new Cayenne sport ute. These trends paint a bleak picture of where Porsche seems to be going in the future: mainstream automobile design.

The brakes alone amaze me! lol..

The Carrera GT is currently my favorite car. I guess that says enough..
Second is the new 911 GT2 - basically a lightered Turbo with 462hp

I like Porsches :)

lets not forget it only weighs 2,700lbs.

Yes the Carrera GT is going to be a great Porsche as it has a lot of hp and it is light. Knowing Porsche it will handle at the best that they can get it to. I really hope that it will be power over steer instead of understeer.

Seb928S: Are you from carforums (supercars)?

Yeah, I like the GT2. It's just nice to see they got rid of those stupid bump-compliant-pads that are on the Turbo. Looks soooooooooooooo much better.

I think that the Carrera GT is killer too.

Yes I am. Yea those things looked stupid and did no help at all. It because of the government and now you can take them off and porsche even gives you a kit to do that.

bout that 550HP Carrera GT how much u think it costs??

I've heard that it will cost $250,000,
Maybe its wrong.. I don't remember... Lemme go check.. and I will be back in a while with a positive answer...

ok, I am back...
it is *rumored* that the Carrera GT will cost $315,000.

whoa, that's a hefty penny :D

but still a pretty good value for the performance, like most porsche cars

AMAZING performance and cheaper than ferrari, BOOYEAH!

I think that the Carrera GT is going to be one of the greatest Porsches ever, and I think that its certainly the best looking. I can only imagine what it would be like to go 205mph in a convertible:D

hey JD...
not to sink the ship, but who started porsche?
and back in the 60s-70s, it was porsche audi...
and why is it bad that they are developing with vw?
dr ferry porsche started both co's (vw and porsche), so who cares?
and vw is on top of the most cutting edge motor tech right now, so why not work with them?
do you dislike jags cuz ford owns em?
or a saab cuz gm owns it?
or a lambo cuz audi, who is a subsidiary of vw, owns em?

if they were developing some lame ass motor, id say ok, but they arent... a 300+hp v8 in a porsche is cool, and the turbo 400hp upgrade motor that will come in the cayenne is even more badass...


oh... on the title of the thread... it isnt a 911 carrera gt..
justa carrera gt....
it isnt based on the 911 or anything... didnt know if anyone caught that...
and dont get mad at me, im just pointin out some facts...

Welllllll dammmmmmmmmmmmmmmnn....now thats a car.

I was watching Autoweek and they said that the price in the US will be around $350,000....My question is if you have 350K, would you spend it on the Carrera GT or on a used F40...

that's a tough question....... really tough





hmmm........ i dunno
i think porsche.........

but then i keep thinkin F40!! juss saying it, F40, F40, FERRRRRRRRARI

i can't decide

I might have the answer. If you $350,000 car, then you must have a shit load of money. Smart person would just add a lil more and buy a new F50 or something.

Sweet!!!! only if i had the $$$$ that is sweet as hell .......how many are made each year ?

it's a beauty, but they are not even sure they are gonna sell it yet,... isn't it like 500 or 300 total if they do?

I never really cared for Porsche, but they are beginning to really amaze me

Yeah those things are awesome. Too bad they have a $50,000 deposit on them which doesnt even guarantee you the car. Its non refundable too so you could just plow 50K for nothing. Its worth the gamble though.

<><><>Vince

A little more....for an new F50?!??! Used F50 are 500Gs and up!

Well I talked to the Porsche dealer where my car is at and he is sure that Porsche will sell the Carrera GT but not a lot of them. I would get one if I have the money to get one.

i forgot, but i think if they do, they will go around for 500000, us....

Road and Track said Porsche pushed the date up even farther .. the date where they were supposed to decide whether to sell it or not.

They probably wouldn't make much profit, but it would REALLY up their image....not like it needs to be 'upped'

From the dealer what I heard they are going to go for 300,000$ to 400,000$ thats without the 50,000$ that you hand over to get on the list.

whatever price it is.. i can't afford it but it looks great:D

Okay, I don't know wether you guys are just estimating or have poor sources but, The 2003 Porsche Carrera GT will cost in the neighborhood of 250,000 Pounds, not dollars. That puts it up to about 600K CDN. It's gonna be one kick ass car and it's Porsches first V10. Porsche also requires the 50,000 Pound down payment on the car. I also heard the Carrera GT can do 220MPH+.

That's nothing compared to the CLK-GTR street version. 2.2 million US Dollars, a $600,000 Down payment and you have to fly to Germany to test drive a special test car. It bonus is that you get three certified mechanics that are on stanby 24 hours a day, 7 days a week that fly direct from Germany if the car should encounter any problems.

not 220 +, 200 +


250,000 pounds ~~ 375,000 buckeroos $$

being in canada... you must be able to convert to dollars... that has already been done for me...
also... you should be able to get your hands on some american mags... like autoweek... when the carerra gt came out they quoted about a 315k price (US)
so, that is damn close to this 250k lbs...

just thought you should know...

i thought R/T said somethin like 500000, i'd have 2 check

the number that aw has is from when the carrera gt just came out... at the introduction... it may have changed...

all porches are nice :smoka:

I dont tend to like porches but I would lop of lefty, if you know what I mean, for that car...

Regarding the Carrera GT prices, it will be about 250, 000 British Pounds Sterling, and all buyers are required to put down a 50, 000 Pound down payment on the car. It is a nice masterpiece of work though. Did you guys see the shifter on it? It sits almost at the driver's shoulder level!

ya,.... i hate it:D

Originally posted by MrCorvetteZ06
I was watching Autoweek and they said that the price in the US will be around $350,000....My question is if you have 350K, would you spend it on the Carrera GT or on a used F40...

old, stripped down, un-reliable, FI car.....or brand new, luxurious, awesome technology, NA mid-engine V10....hmmm...tough one... hehe
Carrera GT all the way.

Originally posted by Z06Lover


old, stripped down, un-reliable, FI car.....or brand new, luxurious, awesome technology, NA mid-engine V10....hmmm...tough one... hehe
Carrera GT all the way.

why does it matter that it's old? it's one of Ferraris greatest cars. Un-reliable? WHAT SUPERCAR ISN'T?!?

Originally posted by gang$tarr


why does it matter that it's old? it's one of Ferraris greatest cars. Un-reliable? WHAT SUPERCAR ISN'T?!?

and the Ferrari is also N/A mid-engined but V12
no dude...the F40, which was the car in question is a Turbo Charged V8 actually, but yes it is mid-engine. The f50 is mid-engine v12.

And old does matter...have you ever looked in a F40.....very antiquated...the only thing about it is that is a ferrari. For it's time amazing, but 15 years later...give me a carrera GT any day.

And I will guarantee that a Porsche Supercar will be way more reliable then a Ferrari. The Ferrari 355 couldn't even be used as a daily driver...the F40..would be in the same boat. head over to nsxfiles.com sometimes and read about those guys. One of them had a 355 and tried to use it as a daily driver....1st month...7 trips to the dealer for repairs.... :)

whoops i was thinkin of the F50, typo

the F-40 is actually a Twin-Turbo V8.... around 10 years old

and a harcore car enthusiast doesn't care about luxury, or interior..... If you want somethin luxurious buy a Benz S600 or a Rolls

The F40 has everything you need for the driving experience, the interior isn't supposed to be anything amazing, and it's not supposed to be a daily driver. It's a prized car.

Supercars don't need a flashy interior, they don't need to be reliable.... that's not what they're about

I'm not puttin down the Porsche or anythin... but don't tell me it could be used as a daily driver

Originally posted by gang$tarr
whoops i was thinkin of the F50, typo

the F-40 is actually a Twin-Turbo V8.... around 10 years old

and a harcore car enthusiast doesn't care about luxury, or interior..... If you want somethin luxurious buy a Benz S600 or a Rolls

The F40 has everything you need for the driving experience, the interior isn't supposed to be anything amazing, and it's not supposed to be a daily driver. It's a prized car.

Supercars don't need a flashy interior, they don't need to be reliable.... that's not what they're about

I'm not puttin down the Porsche or anythin... but don't tell me it could be used as a daily driver

why couldn't it be a daily driver?? ctr 2 yellow birds with 600+ HP are used as daily drivers. The new Ruf Turbo R could easily be used as a daily driver and it has over 500 HP! That is the best thing about Porsche's is they are actually useable super cars. The 959 in 1986 was a very driveable supercar...much more so then an F40. The F40 came out right around the same time, but was made for more years after. 911 turbos with hundreds of thousands of miles are still running around. Porsche is well known for its reliability in the sports car world...the GT should be no different. Ferrari is well known for not having any reliability the F40 was no different....and the F60 shouldn't be either!!! :)

Hey....if i'm paying 350k for a car...and i can get a more refined, luxurious car, that is faster is all respects..why wouldn't I?? the GT has way more HP and torque, has an amazing interior, and is brand new. I don't see the point of buying a FI V8, old car that has nothing at all over a new car...just because it is a "ferrari."

Originally posted by Z06Lover

Hey....if i'm paying 350k for a car...and i can get a more refined, luxurious car, that is faster is all respects..why wouldn't I?? the GT has way more HP and torque, has an amazing interior, and is brand new. I don't see the point of buying a FI V8, old car that has nothing at all over a new car...just because it is a "ferrari."

faster? um doesn't the Porsche GT do 0-60mph in 4s... while the Ferrari does 0-60 in 3.8. The F40s 1/4 mile time is 11.8s that's only .2s slower than a Mclaren F1..... so the porsche isn't faster in EVERY aspect

This Porsche is also a V10.... has porsche ever made any other V10s? I'm not sure, but i don't think they have, actually i don't think they've made any V engines, i think they've only made Flat-6 and inlines 4s... so this is no refined engine, and could be unreliable...

and it's not just a Ferrari, it's pretty much part of automotive history
like i said before, it's a prized car

again this isn't solid facts, i'm just gettin this outta my head, so don't quote me on this

i'll put it this way...911 turbo specs are 0-60 4.2 most mags run it in 3.9..porsche says under 4...so take it at that. Either way both good cars, but for my money...I would take a Porsche like that over a F40. I would take an F50 over an F40...now an F50 vs GT..that would be harder.

im pretty sure they made a flat ten in the 70s for their lmp cars.
ok, on an f40. they sit around, dont get used, and as stated, if you try to drive it, you got to the dealer to replace worn hoses, connectors, all sortsa stuff that fails from misuse. it is not the unreliability... it is the fact that it sits unused. if my lude had 350mi on it (its an 89) and it sat in a garage forever, i would not expect it to run very well w/o a minor overhaul of seals and hoses, etc. this is amplified on a turbo car, seals etc go bad. if you have one that is properly maintained, you should not have a prob w/ it.
on porsche v motors, or anything other than a flat six.

they made the v8 944 etc cars, as well as some solid 4 cyl cars that were unorthodox(to porsche) as front engined rear drivers. and they are still some awesome cars.
also, the new cayenne sport ute will have a coupla v8s, one of them will be a tt w/ 400some odd hp.
porsche could pretty much build any motor, and it would do pretty good and be solid.
and i also would rather have a porsche for a daily driver. a ferrari is more about mystique. my friend had one and the performance stuff was expensive, and didnt gain much. he drives tt porsches now, and hell for 500 buck he can upgrade some turbos and end up w/ 50 more hp, vs no noticeable gain from an exh on a ferrari. not that ferrari is bad, or that he doesnt know his shiet, but modding a porsche is easier. and more reliable. and i ramble on and on.

on a side note, i coulda sworn that gangstarr doesnt like old cars???:D

Originally posted by flylwsi

on a side note, i coulda sworn that gangstarr doesnt like old cars???:D

heh, i don't... but an F40 deserves respect. and i never said that i'd use it as a daily driver. But a Porsche supercar is going to be unreliable also. It's not gunna be as unreliable but it will be..... it's not like a 911 that you can drive everyday

I'm not really sure which one i'd choose if i could pick F40 vs. GT
but an F40 is way more valuable.... i'd probably end up getting and F40, cause well, it's an F40 god damn it!! It's a huge part of Ferrari history. I'd only use it as a show car though. I'd only drive it on nice days. It's not like i'd drive a GT everyday, but the F40 is just too famous, if i had the chance to get one i would.
It's probably one of the only old cars i'd like... then again it's not that old (1991)
supercars don't age as quickly though, Diablos are old, but they still look new, and sound good

i get what your sayin..
but basically, if you want to drive an f40, you gotta restore everything in it just to get some drivability back from the age and no driving...
and i think a supercar now, especially from porsche, is much more driveable than a supercar from ferrari would be...
just lookin at it
it looks more roadgoing than the racetrack designs of the F cars... know what i mean? it looks like it would take a beating and hold together... a ferrari doesnt have that look to me...

Originally posted by flylwsi

and i think a supercar now, especially from porsche, is much more driveable than a supercar from ferrari would be...


yeah, but do you really want a supercar, which is meant to be a race car to drive like a Lexus? no! you want to hold on for dear life! :D you don't want it to be easy... well i'm kinda j/k

but i never said that a porsche wouldn't be as driveable..... I know that the F40 would take alot more skill to drive than any new car, it doesn't have much of any electronic assists. I think the new Ferraris like a 550 are probably just as driveable as the porsches though

porsche's are like ferraris, only desgined by engineers who went to college!! ;) j/k

but, everyone knows that ferrari engines are great....when they are running...which aint often!! ;)

i love the F40, but you better believe if i own a 350k car...i'm gonna want to drive it everyday!! I have another car I could drive other then my S2K every day....but i drive the S2k every day....rain or shine. I could care less about how valuable the car is...i'm gonna drive the shit out of it!! :) Personally, i don't think Porsche will ever make the GT if they can't make it reliable. Now if it doesn't have a roof...that could kill the whole daily driver thing up here in oregon!! ;)

Originally posted by Z06Lover
Now if it doesn't have a roof...that could kill the whole daily driver thing up here in oregon!! ;)

killed :D



yeah but if you have a 350k and drive it in every condition, the value of the car is gunna go wwaaaaaayyyyy down

Originally posted by gang$tarr


killed :D



yeah but if you have a 350k and drive it in every condition, the value of the car is gunna go wwaaaaaayyyyy down

if i got 350k to spend on a car...resale value won't be the first thing on my mind....how to get all the b$tches off my jock will be my biggest worry...hehe j/k :)

i guess that was kinda my point there...
if you have that money and you want to drive it, the money is probably of no concern...
what i meant by a driveable supercar was simply that the porsche, like its 911 brethren, is much more suited to driving, vs the careful for the potholes and uneven ground super low styling of an f40's aero package...
i wasnt referring to the whoa factor...
no doubt in my mind that a 550hp car, any car, would kick my ass, especially a porsche....

oh fo sho..... i think a 911 is way more driveable than like a modena... then again they're not really in the same price range

911 turbo vs. modena
i think i'd drive the Ferrari just as much as the porsche... but an F40 is such a prized collectors car, i wouldn't wanna mess anything up..

same with like a Ferrari 550... i would drive it all the time, rain or shine, way more than an F40

I was pondering this question before also. If I had an F40 would I only show it or drive it? My answer; get two. sounds unreasonable but, if you have 350K to spend on a car, how about buy the 19 million dollar house instead of the 20 Million dollar one and get two F40's. Then one would sit in your living room and the other you could take to a corner store or across the country for all I care. It's expensive, but supercars are so might as well get two, or three :D

well i'd just do both.... i just wouldn't drive it in any bad conditions and I'd be careful

there aren't any new cars that i'd treat like the F40.... the F40 is just like a prize car, you have to watch out for it, cause it's not like you can just buy another new one

you guys made too hard a comparison.... compare the GT to another new car... like a Ferrari 360 spyder or somethin

those are both similar and easier to compare.... comparing a historical, prize car... too a brand new Porsche (that isn't even out yet) is just too weird

either compare 2 older prize cars... or 2 new cars that are comparable

The 959 is an supercar and look its driveable everyday plus that car has so much technology in it, cars these days don't even have that much and it was made in 86. You can still take it out and drive the car hard day to day. It's a Porsche built to drive hard and last a longer time then a fiat.

true true


on the modena vs the turbo thing...
the turbo is still quicker by tenths all around, and has more hp. and better handling, and a smaller price tag. i would still buy a porsche over anything that is in a ferrari showroom... mainly b/c you can get a turbo on a porsche, and 50-100 hp is only a turbo swap away... hmm...
this is similar to gettin a golf gti w/ the 1.8t or the vr6.
you cant lose either way, but there are differences...

Ferrari is just so close to my heart :D
that i'd take a Modena over a 911 Turbo..... it would be a REALLY hard choice though

Originally posted by flylwsi
true true


on the modena vs the turbo thing...
the turbo is still quicker by tenths all around, and has more hp. and better handling, and a smaller price tag. i would still buy a porsche over anything that is in a ferrari showroom... mainly b/c you can get a turbo on a porsche, and 50-100 hp is only a turbo swap away... hmm...
this is similar to gettin a golf gti w/ the 1.8t or the vr6.
you cant lose either way, but there are differences...


i was with you till this post. The reason I would choose a modena over the 996 TT is because it isn't turbo charged. Nature Aspriation is always better if you can get the power from your engine. It gives you better throttle respone, doesn't upset the balance of the car, and is overall a faster engine for the same HP. Turbo charging is for faking displacement..nothing else. Better handling?? The modena goes faster through the slalom and is faster on most courses when driven by equally competant drivers. Even tracks like thunderhill, where long straight stretches would usually favor higher HP motors, Steve millen was about 2 secs faster with the modena. It is a mid-engine, N/A, serious sports car. Now if I was worried about repair bills....996 TT all the way, but if all i wanted was a perfectly balanced race car....360 Modena all the way.

It's gotten harder to compare these 2 cars (996 Turbo & 360 Modena) because they are of very different natures. The Porsche is faster around a track than the 360 (from evey single track test i've read).
The 996 that is more directly comparable to the Modena is the GT3, a much wilder car than the Turbo, a true race car, and not a GT, which is what the Turbo and GT2 have become. Track tests have also shown that Porsche's 911GT3 outperforms the 360 Modena. Harder to get the time from the car, but in a true racer's hands it will beat the 360.

at the end of the day, i'd settle for any of the above, who wouldn't!!!!!!!

well.. pardon my perverse tounge... but it looks as though someone slipped their dick in the tailpipe of an MR2 Spyder.

well.. pardon my perverse tounge... but it looks as though someone slipped their dick in the tailpipe of an MR2 Spyder.

no way buddy, this thing is beautiful

i think it's aright to compare them just because they're both the companies fastest current cars

Originally posted by blatch
well.. pardon my perverse tounge... but it looks as though someone slipped their dick in the tailpipe of an MR2 Spyder.

oh i agree..compared to the "beautiful" cars honda makes like the civic si and shit...the carrera gt looks horrible......:rolleyes:
hahahaha... whatever...you wouldn't know a good looking car if it ran you over. :)

i think it's aright to compare them just because they're both the companies fastest current cars

you're kidding right???? tell me youre kidding!!!

Originally posted by crayzayjay


you're kidding right???? tell me youre kidding!!!

he was being sarcastic, notice the rolling eyes :D :D lol

er... i dont see any rolling eyes

Originally posted by Z06Lover

......:rolleyes:


those my friend, are rolling eyes

err.. i do realise that, but i do believe i quoted part of YOUR post and there are no rolling eyes there.. i knew Z06 was being sarcastic, it was a very funny message indeed. what i was stunned at was what you said, and like i said there are no rolling eyes there...
cheers
jay

well then... i'm an idiot.... i don't know how i didn't see that :confused:

LOL

so i take it you were being sarcastic as well and forgot to put your rolling eyes?

cheers
jay

no.... i can't believe i didn't see that

i just love this car.

no.... i can't believe i didn't see that
huh? so you were being serious????
:confused: :confused: :confused:

With that kind of price, though, I'll just have to be content reading about it and catching an occasional glimpse in an auto show. :(

thats an awesome car, porsche doesnt usually have great styling, but this one is great. i would still rather have a callaway c12

I would never consider a Callaway to a Porsche. Racing history, the pedigree, the name, etc... It's got to be Porsche.

cheers,
jay

I really like the design, and the overall performance....I think Porsche has struck gold.....:D

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This is a really nice car. Would love to have one... I love the 911s... !!