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M5: All of the sedans are beefed up base models but, the M5 Has the highest hp and is jsut plain cool. I sat in one :D

I like the XJR the best. My mom has one and I love it. It drives soooo nice. I took it downtown today and raced a stupid little stock mustang and whooped him. The car just yells "prestige."

I like the BMW too. Nice lines.

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I owned a BMW 540I the mini version of the M5 and its AWSOME,,, I never driven an M5 I only rea but for sure its clasier than the AMG, and way better quality than the Jaguars.

All I can say is BMW knows how to beef up a nice car the right way.:frog:

Thats not necessarily true about being better quality than the Jag. People have the idea that Jags are crap and always break down. Our XJR hasnt had one problem yet. Jags have a bad rumor about quality going around because of the "pre-Ford" Jaguars. Once Ford bought Jaguar the quality was pretty much like any other car out there on the road.

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I am seriously looking into getting the M3. I wish I had an additional 20K to move up to the M5.

yah, the M3 is good if you have kids. If not, the Vette is cooler, but everyone has different tastes. Get whatever you like best.:)
Yeah, after-Ford Jags are excellent quality. They are more stylish than the BMW. But you gotta love the M5:D

M5. Best looks (IMO), most power, best looks, best looks, and I generally am a little biased towards M-anythings.

Are they going to make an M3 sedan?

They used to, and its more useful and a better sleeper that way. So its probably a good bet (maybe)

Ya! I just refer to them as "Mini M5's"

Im an EVO man but the E55 AMG is one of my favourite cars.

It is Beautiful.

I like the appointments in the XJR. But as for performance, I have to go with the M5. It's just born a street machine.

bimmers rule.

I think the M5 matches speed/power with refinement better than the Jag, but the MB comes in a close second. However, the M5, to me, is more of a high performance car than a luxury sedan...does that make sense? It is geared more towards the performance end, but doesn't skimp on the amenities.

Oh yeah...and the Bimmer looks gorgeous!

the e55 and m5 are compared all the time, and in road & track, the m5 won out this yr, but lost last year... and the margin was like 1 or 2 pts...
i like the e55.. which should make BRABUS wet his pants...
one of those votes is mine.. .especially b/c my friend has one next to his porsche... and it is just sick.... of course they are next to the harleys w/ nos, and the vette and the mercedes suv...
what a garage... but he drives the e55 the most...

i like it...
but i do like the m5 also... it is hella badass, and i would take either car... but i really like the e55...

i love sleepers... this is one of the best... better than the m5

hey Porsche.....
BMW isn't making an M3 Sedan. since the M3 has very little in common with the 3 series ie... door panels, hood, wheel covers, etc... it would cost way too much money to make a sedan. but anyways not having a sedan is cooler. 2 door is better.

My friends dad has an XJR and it kicks ass

Ive driven an M5 and i can assure you of one thing: it's f'in fast! Unbelievable experience, easily the fastest car ive ever driven. Minor criticisms is that the steering is too light... the brakes were beginning to struggle at the end of the drive but then again they did get a fair workout!!

M5 Vs XJR: the XJR is automatic. Nuff said

M5 Vs E55: the E55 is automatic. Nuff said

Neither of these cars are a match for the M5 when it comes to driving them fast, but the XJR and E55 do notch up some points for being more comfortable. But hey, if you want comfort, get a Rolls! :D

I've always like the M5, but the new E55 is just too georgeous. I've seen quite a few of them roaring down the autobahn, they just "wreak of cool", if that makes any sense. I think they're faster this year than the M5 but I'm not sure since the new 5 series is coming out soon. If i had the cash though, I would get the SL55 AMG..those things seriously make my jaw drop. I sat in a SL 500, and i wet my pants, so i have no clue what will happen if I ever get to sit in an SL 55.

Yes, the new E55 is faster, because it now used a supercharged (not NA like the old one used), 5.4L V8, with 479hp, I believe, and a similiar amount of torque. This gives it the raw power to out-accelerate the M5, but alas, it has an automatic. I would buy the M5 for that reason alone.

The M5 is simply miles ahead in terms of chassis control. Every single tester who's put an E55 sideways has come out of the car saying that's not something they'll be doing again anytime soon. The E55 is only good for cruising - albeit very, very fast :)

Give me an M5 anyday

For the street use I prefer the new E55 AMG .. that one is a beast .. :) .. the M5 style is getting old and get bored with it .. :D

For the street use I prefer the new E55 AMG .. that one is a beast .. .. the M5 style is getting old and get bored with it ..

:rolleyes:

The M5 looks awesome dude, what are you on about? Why do you think that last year, the E39 M5 hit record sales? Because it looks awesome and is such a balanced car (Ultimate Driving Machine), but also becasue the market knows that Chris Bangle will ruin the E60 design, which he did. :mad: :finger:

But the E55 AMG Id go for, as its the best all rounder. Audi suffers from poor aerodynamics, with a high drag coefficient, and understeer, despite the 4WD Quattro tech. I am aware that the RS 6 is not in this comparison, but I have mentioned it as it is a car in the exact same market and SHOULD be in this comparison.

Just my 2hp :D

Oh yeah and you should be comparing the Jaguar S Type R too these cars, not the XJR. If its the XJR, then this should be a comparison with the XJR vs Z8 vs SL55 AMG, and also possibly the Audi Nuvalori (sp?) concept which may be put into production, which I believe has the Lamborghini Gallardo engine, or some TT-based engine.

Originally posted by Blitzen


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The M5 looks awesome dude, what are you on about? Why do you think that last year, the E39 M5 hit record sales? Because it looks awesome and is such a balanced car (Ultimate Driving Machine), but also becasue the market knows that Chris Bangle will ruin the E60 design, which he did. :mad: :finger:

But the E55 AMG Id go for, as its the best all rounder. Audi suffers from poor aerodynamics, with a high drag coefficient, and understeer, despite the 4WD Quattro tech. I am aware that the RS 6 is not in this comparison, but I have mentioned it as it is a car in the exact same market and SHOULD be in this comparison.

Just my 2hp :D

hello blitzen .. I knew that the 5 series is a good looking car .. Myself drives 7 series and 3 series and I love BMW .. but the 5 series design started at around 97 if I am not wrong .. so it's getting old for the style ... and the new E class MB is fresh from the oven ... hehhehe .. :) .. honestly I will not buy the new BMW series, I mean new 7 series or new 5 series becoz I don't like the style ... for me that styles are too much .. it's time for me to go back to MB ... heheheh .. just my personal opinions friend .. :) .. in the next 3 to 4 month I have plan to buy new E class MB ... :D

As a disclaimer, my arguments on AF where simply too challenge your point of views in a civil manner, through revised and calculated opinions :D , Hamann. Just a disclaimer :) .

I hope your getting yourself an E55 AMG then :D

I agree with you on your opinion that the new 7 and 5 are too much style. Its a shame really, because the handling, overall dynamics, engine, and interior are of an excellent quality. Damn Chris Bangle :mad: .

Originally posted by Blitzen
As a disclaimer, my arguments on AF where simply too challenge your point of views in a civil manner, through revised and calculated opinions :D , Hamann. Just a disclaimer :) .

I hope your getting yourself an E55 AMG then :D

I agree with you on your opinion that the new 7 and 5 are too much style. Its a shame really, because the handling, overall dynamics, engine, and interior are of an excellent quality. Damn Chris Bangle :mad: .

:D ... hheehehhe .. I like discussion blitzen .. :)

not the E 55 AMG I will buy the regular one .. E 55 AMG is not available here .. and the car prices are very expensive here .. almost three times from US because of the import duty, tax and bla bla bla .. so u can imagine how much money I have to spend if I want to buy the E 55 AMG ... :( :mad: :)

I just don't understand why BMW do that? .. even for the new 5 series .. they suppose to know that many peoples don't like their new styles ... but they keep going .. :confused: :)

Yeah, it really sucks. I saw an E39 M5 with Alpina wheels, aftermarket leather interior - it was sweet. Doing such modifications to the E60 - :bloated:

Originally posted by Blitzen
Yeah, it really sucks. I saw an E39 M5 with Alpina wheels, aftermarket leather interior - it was sweet. Doing such modifications to the E60 - :bloated:

blitzen .. E 60 is the new 7 series or 5 series?:confused:

E60 is the new 5 series, the new 7 series is the E65.

The E60 is such a poor design - rear lights influenced from the Peugeot (sp?) 406, inproportional lines, stupid front lights design, the M5 has small quad rear exhausts - the car should be giving a sporting image, not with skinny exhausts! Big brake discs though :D

Even body modifications, which will be made by various companies, wont suit the car, like it did on the E39 - agressive design.


To answer the comparison, the best vehicle is the E Class:

Styling - good, although a subjective issue. Refreshing change from crap Jap styling (which BMW could have capitalised on :o )

As I have to go, I will sum up that all other aspects are good on this car, were other cars fall down on.

Originally posted by Blitzen
E60 is the new 5 series, the new 7 series is the E65.

The E60 is such a poor design - rear lights influenced from the Peugeot (sp?) 406, inproportional lines, stupid front lights design, the M5 has small quad rear exhausts - the car should be giving a sporting image, not with skinny exhausts! Big brake discs though :D

Even body modifications, which will be made by various companies, wont suit the car, like it did on the E39 - agressive design.


To answer the comparison, the best vehicle is the E Class:

Styling - good, although a subjective issue. Refreshing change from crap Jap styling (which BMW could have capitalised on :o )

As I have to go, I will sum up that all other aspects are good on this car, were other cars fall down on.

thank u for the info blitzen .. :) .. I saw the spy photo of the new 5 series and definitely I don't like it .. but u know .. almost every brand ever screw up with their design sometimes ... so just wait untill they realize it right ... hehehhehhehe ... :) :D

I hope mitsu realise their mistakes with the evo 8, Subaru are the only company who did with the STi7, and so it is proven that they are the most customer-focused company.

Although styling is subjective, when theres a significant group that hates the Evo 8 looks, it is obvious that something has too be done, unlike when one n00b hates the R34 design :o

Urgh,:apuke: I hears that new Jaguars are just Ford Taurus with a difrent body style. If that's true, :apuke: I hope its not :apuke:

it's not a taurus.

they're built on the same/similar platform.

that's about all that's similar.

in regards to the evo 8, have you seen one in person?

don't judge if you've only seen magazine pics. they don't do it justice.

i saw 2, one silver, one black, and they're really mean looking, and i'm a big fan (except the tails)

fly - please remember that styling is subjective (Im sure you do), and if I see the evo 8 in person, I'll change my opinion (if I like it) and the new jags are based on fords. :rolleyes:

Im glad that the 8 lights can be changed for the 7 - same light shape etc. :D

Originally posted by Blitzen
I hope mitsu realise their mistakes with the evo 8, Subaru are the only company who did with the STi7, and so it is proven that they are the most customer-focused company.

Although styling is subjective, when theres a significant group that hates the Evo 8 looks, it is obvious that something has too be done, unlike when one n00b hates the R34 design :o

Blitzen ... very soon I have plan to buy a fast small car ... and I am considering WRX .. but in here the WRX spec is 218 HP only .. Evo price is a way too high for my target ... what do u think about WRX?:)

Let's stay on topic please, if you want to talk about other cars start another thread

I would go for the M5 but the E55AMG is coming very close.
By the way has anybody seen BMW's pictures of the new 5-series. Damn it's ugly!
Chris Bangle should be stopped!

Oh, and by the way the worlds fastest saloon comes from the Danish (:D ) company Kleeman.

Brabus E V12
7.3V12. 582bhp. 772nm.330km/h

Kleeman E55 Supercharger
5.5V8. 607bhp. 750nm(just like a ZondaS).

:devil:338km/h !!!

Let's stay on topic please, if you want to talk about other cars start another thread

Sorry dude.

ETS - Chris Bangle is a terrorist.

Hamann - you know I dont like the Evo 8 :) - its ugly :bloated: :rolleyes: Unless, of course, you can get your hands on an Evo 6 :D , say an RS450?

Originally posted by crayzayjay
Let's stay on topic please, if you want to talk about other cars start another thread

uppss .. sorry cray .. let's go back to the topic .. :)

Originally posted by ETS
I would go for the M5 but the E55AMG is coming very close.
By the way has anybody seen BMW's pictures of the new 5-series. Damn it's ugly!
Chris Bangle should be stopped!

Oh, and by the way the worlds fastest saloon comes from the Danish (:D ) company Kleeman.

Brabus E V12
7.3V12. 582bhp. 772nm.330km/h

Kleeman E55 Supercharger
5.5V8. 607bhp. 750nm(just like a ZondaS).

:devil:338km/h !!!

how about the reability from Kleeman tuning? .. some of the speed shop here offering that product .. :D

Originally posted by Blitzen


Sorry dude.

ETS - Chris Bangle is a terrorist.

Hamann - you know I dont like the Evo 8 :) - its ugly :bloated: :rolleyes: Unless, of course, you can get your hands on an Evo 6 :D , say an RS450?

hehehhehe ... ok .. let's finish this OT .. or we will get many complaints blitzen ... I got an offer of EVO 4 ... to old I think .. hahhahaha .. :) :D :p

New thread? :D

Originally posted by Blitzen
New thread? :D

I just bought a new blue mica WRX this afternoon .. :D ... please start the new thread then I will go in ... what do u think?? .. :D