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Koojo
04-27-2001, 10:05 PM
I been looking at websites, and most of them say that the P11 can do 0-60mph in like 11.7 seconds or something....thats bullshit! There is this road near my house, and its really long, and I started at the begining of it, and did 0-60 in like 6 or 7 seconds. I dunno how those people got 11 something, because thats complete bull right there.

Kenny-G
04-27-2001, 10:47 PM
Car and Driver magazine tested the 99 P11 couple years ago, the quickest 0-60 time was 8.5 sec, with 5 speed, 60 series tires. That is the quickest time test any American auto magazine ( Motor Trend tested it and the quickest they could do was 10. some sec, they got to have the AC on or something ) The 2000 on G probably a bit faster due to smaller 1st and 2nd gear ratio and slightly more power. 6 to 7 is almost inpossible for stock G, a 200sx SE-R can't break into 7 second range in stock form, and it is 400 lb lighter than G. Unless you were accelerating down hill....

Koojo
04-28-2001, 09:55 PM
i dont know, but it didnt seem like 8.5 seconds at all, it seemed much quicker than that. ill have someone time me sometime, then ill know for sure.

Kenny-G
04-28-2001, 11:38 PM
Just a little more info from my memoriy....Jwt tested the pre-production low boost turbo kit on a 99 G, 190hp on crank, best 0-60 time was 7.1 was stock Bridgestone and suspension (match an Integra GS-R). And the quickest stock SR20DE car in the state is NX2000, 0-60 in about 6.8 seconds, which is 600 lb lighter than a G. So compare with all these info, 8.5 second sound reasonable for a G.

doodledo824
05-13-2001, 04:13 AM
koojo ...don't listen to anyone but me ...ignore people who have know idea what they're talking about ,,they just know what they read...i have a 2000 g-ride for all of u who don't know it's time to get schooled..00g20's have a shorter first and second gear,,,,hence faster 0-60 times the car puts out 5 bhp more at the crank and 10 at the wheels (sportcompactcar) motorweek ran a 99 and got a 16.3 . go to motorweek online if u don't believe me. i personally have run 15.9 at 84 mph at englishtown. i also run 7.4 0-60 all day everyday. now who's the smart guy that said the nx weighed 600 pounds lighter? come on let's get real the classic se-r weighed over 2500 pounds ...and the new sentra se wieghs 2700 and i've seen that thing run 15.6 at the track so why cant the g that weighs 300 pounds more with stickier bridgestone potenza's run only a couple of tenths slower :compared to the the cheesy firestones that the sentra comes with to conclude drive a new g and you'll understand

johnny
05-13-2001, 05:12 AM
That's all fine and well. But listen to me. Whatever you do, don't get straddled with an auto. Auto G20's are as slow as mollases in January, ya hear?

sproose-goose
05-13-2001, 03:05 PM
I had a black 99 g20t auto sold it. hard to keep clean and the auto was dog slow. bought a silver 99g20t with manual.makes a big defference in the overall sporty feel of the car.:bandit:

b-b00gie
05-13-2001, 05:09 PM
koojo ...don't listen to anyone but me ...ignore people who have know idea what they're talking about ,,they just know what they read...i have a 2000 g-ride for all of u who don't know it's time to get schooled..

Please dont join our forum with a poor attitude... if you have something to say go ahead.. but dont join our forum and in your FIRST post say something as blind-assed as "dont listen to anyone but me ...ignore people who have no idea what they're talking about..."

...and about the NX2000 weighing over 2500lbs... WRONG.. it weighed 2461 lbs to be exact... maybe you're the one who needs "schooling" ...please refer to www.se-r.net and educate yourself on our engine.

thanks...

primera man
05-13-2001, 06:28 PM
Originally posted by doodledo824
...don't listen to anyone but me ...ignore people who have know idea what they're talking about ,,they just know what they read...

...And what makes YOU think you are better then the rest of us here ????

Koojo
05-13-2001, 06:30 PM
allright all of you chill out. he was probably trying to get his point across, no need to get all up about it. just take what he said and its all good.

primera man
05-13-2001, 06:33 PM
There are ways to get your point across without knocking everyone else who is trying to help !!!!!

X2BOARD
05-13-2001, 07:35 PM
Can't we all just get along ???

What the heck ? I am not a g20 driver, but isn't that car a Cow ? In terms of weight I mean.....

I raced a g20 a while ago and spanked it with a 4dr integra non-vtec...

I actually timed my car from a stand still to 60 in 9.7 without severe ragging. Also remember that when those mags test the cars for articles, they work them as hard as they will go...probably much harder than most of us would car to push our cars. What do they care ?...it's like driving rental cars for them.

Do I have a slow stopwatch or does everyone else have a fast one ?

A 60 time for a G20 in 8 seconds ? That sounds hella fast for a stocker. Does anyone have any official times or 1320 slip times for this car stock ?

doodledo824
05-13-2001, 11:55 PM
listen you all need to lighten up , i am just trying to get my point across, it seems that the only way anyone will listen is if i am blunt and to the point. i'm tired of having to defend our cars cause of poor driving or not enough info on the part of the automotive publications. i think the g for the money offers great value..
good performance excellent hadling loaded with options and a luxury badge on it's hood for less than 25000 so for all of those of whom a rustled a few feathers i'm sorry but hey....i did get your attention:D

JustinP10
05-14-2001, 01:25 AM
I have a couple recent timeslips...
It was about 90* outside (damn az heat) so my mph was a tad slower than normal, but this should give you a good idea... At the time I was running 16" rims, and the timing wasn't bumped as high as it is now (was at 15), anyways here goes..

10.40 @69.66
10.47 @69.07
10.72 @66.92 (missed 2nd)

BTW, all of these were with 2.6 60fts (I havn't figured out the lightened flywheel yet)

When i ran my car a while back, with fewer mods (but much cooler outside, like 60 degrees cooler) I ran a 9.9x 1/8th at 70.xx i believe, with a much better 60ft of course. I'll try and find that timeslip. hope this helps.

primera man
05-14-2001, 02:55 AM
Originally posted by doodledo824
so for all of those of whom a rustled a few feathers i'm sorry but hey....i did get your attention:D

YEAH.... YOU GOT MY ATTENTION !!!!!...LOL

All forgotten about. :D :D

DVSNCYNIKL
05-14-2001, 07:32 AM
Hey Koojo, only piece of advice I have for you is, don't use someone as a timer. That is absolutely the worse way to time yourself. Find a track that has a timer. It's common knowledge that a person's reaction time will make any timing off. So get an accurate reading, go to a track.:D

Chris
05-14-2001, 08:05 AM
6 or 7 seconds is IMPOSSIBLE for a G. A grand Am GT can do it in 7.7 seconds (with an auto, 175 hp 200+lb-ft)
Now, with 145 hp, maybe 155lb-ft (don't really know), a 5 speed stick, maybe 7.5 seconds, tops. I would say 8.2 seconds. Thats just me.
What does the G weigh, anyway?

primera_gte
05-14-2001, 10:03 AM
So what is the actual 60 time for the 2000-2002 G20s? What does Infiniti report?

G22DET
05-14-2001, 09:02 PM
Does it really matter how fast the G, or any other car, will go in 0-60? That is not the only way to determine if a car is fast or not...in fact, that's probably the smallest factor in determining between fast and slow cars.
I have been on numerous road race tracks and have beaten plenty of cars that can totally eat the G up in a straight line. Keep in mind that the only engine mod I have is the JWT intake. I have beaten a turbo charged GS300 with about 350hp, I have beaten a stock (lowered) M3 with 240hp, numerous of civics/integ...all of those cars are much faster than me in terms of the 0-60. The turbo GS300 probably goes in around 5.5 secs..the M3 is 5.2...and the G goes in around 8.5? (for a 5speed like my). Of course, I have some suspension mods such as the Tein combo and other little things, however, all the cars that do race on the tracks have the same if not better set up for their cars...stuff for the P11 is hard to come by here.
What I am saying is, 0-60 isn't a true measure of how fast the car is....the overall performance such as handling, braking and of course acceleration are the true indicator of how fast the car really is.
And who ever said the G20 is a "cow"...that's very silly....it's under 3000lbs with 4doors and fully leather interior....the M3 is around 3300lbs...but would you call the M3 a "fat-ass cow"??? They come as agile as they make them. :)

doodledo824
05-14-2001, 09:27 PM
i have this nifty little device called a g-tech pro. i paid something like 150 bucks when it first came out . i actually used it on a track and found it to be reasonable accurate i had a sentra se "91" 1.6 at the track i ran a 16.49 the g tech registered a 16.51 the speed was off by like 5 mph. my friends have used it and the most it was ever off was .3 not a bad error factor for 150 bucks. it also reads 0 to 60 times. i really couldn't afford it back then so i charged everyone 5 bucks to use it. needless to say it payed for itself. But now everyone and their mother has one. i think they are selling for 120 now.

JustinP10
05-14-2001, 11:25 PM
I also have a G-tech Pro. It is sweet!!!! Unfortunatly, i let someone borrow it and havn't had any free time to stop by and get it back yet, So I havnt' had it for about a month or so. Before, i thought i ran running 0-60 in low 8's, and i know i suck at launching? I forget the exact times to tell you the truth, most of the stuff i did with it was G's and the 1320 a couple times. And yes, the mph is always supposed to be a couple mph high. I think it's cause the track measure an avg of the last 60ft or so, and the G-tech is at the line mph. they talk about it on their website i believe. As soon as i get mine back i'll do some 0-60 runs and post my results. BTW, I paid about $135 about 6 months ago.

Chris
05-15-2001, 09:33 AM
Yes! Some answers! And I think a good driver could smoke a G20 with ANY M3. SO your must be good, and him bad.

b-b00gie
05-15-2001, 09:48 AM
in a drag race yes, but there you go again referring to a pointless benchmark. neither the M3 or G20 are good drag cars, or were designed for it. the G20 is still lighter, brakes faster and handles like magic... all of which is important in a short twisty race track... what these cars were designed for.

doodledo824
05-15-2001, 03:10 PM
i was wonder if anyone else had a short treadwear life on the stock potenzas. don't get me wrong considering they were a rather conservative 195/60 they handled great but they didn't last long and i don't smoke my tires but i do like to hook turns....after all isn't that what g's were meant for

Adam
05-15-2001, 03:23 PM
why does everyone love them and treat them like they are fast if they are REALLY slow...

my parents' 87 DODGE CARAVAN could do better than that...lol

b-b00gie
05-15-2001, 03:36 PM
87 Dodge Caravan 0-60 is 11.3 seconds.... and their 2000+ models are still over 10 seconds... :finger:


there's no one here claiming they're rockets... but if you modify them they can be :p


...hell, a stock civic is slow as shit, but i've seen video of one beating the hell out of an $80,000 viper like it was its daddy

Chris
05-15-2001, 04:21 PM
I'm sorry, a M3 would KILL a G20 on ANY track!!! Especially the new 333hp ones, but any one would do it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

johnny
05-15-2001, 04:45 PM
that is true. But, c'mon. The M3 is way out of the g20's price range. Apples and oranges, my friend. Apples and oranges.

i_rebel
05-15-2001, 05:18 PM
Apples and oranges . . . mayhaps . . .

Have you ever seen some of the touring/GT races on Speedvision?

You know, the ones where you see a BMW, battling with a Civic hatch, with an Integra, with a Mustang. . .

There isn't a damn thing that any of those cars have in common . . . not the last time I checked.

The point is under some racing conditions, there are any number of variables thrown into the equation . . . "x-factors" if you will . . .

SCCA and other forms of club racing make that possible. Just meet a certain set of guidelines, and you could find a G20 next to a Viper . . . COMPETITIVELY . . . and yes, the driver's involved have plenty to do with it, as does the vehicles their driving . . . NO DRIVER is going to make some cars competitive . . . and Johnny . . . MSRP has nothing to do with it . . . you don't talk like a driver . . . not a REAL driver anyway . . .

Don't go raisin' a raucous around here . . . the G20 is an excellent package . . . the N. American car that debuted in 1991 was a 4 cylinder with 140 stock HP, and a torque curve unlike most 4 cylinders produced even now. Combined with the world class handling these cars have and you have much to be excited about.

What would you like to compare it to that was also sold at that time? In stock trim.

Do your home work . . . and behave yourself in this forum.

G22DET
05-15-2001, 07:57 PM
who the hell is saying the M3 would beat ANY p11 Primeras???? considering the E36 M3 have over 100 more hp over the P11...they should...on any DRAG STRIP.......but on the road course is totally different man...ever heard of the cliche that numbers on paper are only one side of the story? just because on paper the M3 SHOULD dominate the G (which for twice amount of the money, 100more hp, 80extra tq, 2 extra cylinders and simply the elusive "M" badge they should) that isn't the case.
ANY race track??? you should leave out Streets of Willow...ANY G20??? you should definitly leave out my G20. Skill drives the car...not numbers on paper.
If you have the best sword in the world, would you go around and claim you're the best knight? I think not.
:finger:
.why does everyone love them and treat them like they are fast if they are REALLY slow...
everyone loves them because..hello..you are in the G20 FORUM....of course we love them because most of us are owners of one. Why would you not love a car but spend lots of cash buying one????? No one is claiming that the factory G20 is REALLY FAST. Some owners might feel that it's underpowered....but given its stellar handling performance, it's more than enough to compensate and given that the P10/P11 are equipped with SR20 motors, 300-350HP is no problem at all.

i_rebel
05-15-2001, 08:27 PM
everyone loves them because..hello..you are in the G20 FORUM

. . . lol . . . duh !!??!

b-b00gie
05-15-2001, 09:23 PM
haha :D

b-b00gie
05-16-2001, 07:32 AM
if anyone is interested.... here's that civic beating the viper..


click here for the download (http://www.thefastandfurious.com/media/videos/2/hcvdv.mpeg)

Chris
05-16-2001, 08:58 AM
An M3 will smoke a G20 anyday, sorry, but it will, even a modded G20.
When you see G20's, Civics, Vipers and Saleens racing, THEY ARE PURPOSE_BUILT, TUBE-FRAME RACECARS!!!!!!! They are in no way related to stock cars, so any comparision is useless. The only common part is the screw on the air-filter, and that is often replaced!!

I like G20's, but they need modding for me to buy one. Yes, the G20 and M3 is apples to oranges, but someone says the G20 is better. Maybe he was dropped on his head as a kid.:flipa: :flipa: :flipa: :flipa:

b-b00gie
05-16-2001, 09:07 AM
watch the video.. thats no race car... these are street races my friend...

An M3 will smoke a G20 anyday, sorry, but it will, even a modded G20.

:argue:


Just go away if you're gonna make uneducated comments like that. We were all fine without you before, and we certainly dont need you here now.

an e36 M3 was only 240hp or whatever... even less to the wheels. the e46 is 333hp, probably around 300 at the wheels... to try and say that a modded G20, or any car for that matter cannot achieve 300 wheel hp is a joke.

i know some guy near me who has a '92 vw gti which puts 540hp to the wheels and this is a daily driven car... so basically all i have to say is.... bite me, you can make any car go as fast as you want.. or as far as your wallet can take it.

...hey Chris, at least your toyota echo is fast!!!

peace.

Dprotech
05-16-2001, 10:20 AM
Sorry ..man ..that is too funny boogie ...you must have a doctorate in sarcasm ...G20 rules....I don't care people love wondering what the hell passed them ...Shit I should get a buck everytime I impress other drivers on the highway ...infiniti or nissan are you listening ?

JustinP10
05-16-2001, 02:49 PM
I hate to add to this dung slinging but....

I do think that the G20 is a better car than the M3, if i had enough money to afford an M3 i would more than likely think differently though. For me, a college student, a G20 is a great car. It's quick (getting faster all the time), handles great, and can competitivly get me around the track if I decide to run at an event. (just wish i could drive better--> practice, practice, practice...)
I bought my first G20 when I was 16, and now own my second one. I am very very close to a 14 second quarter mile now as is (assuming if i could get a decent launch). I think that is very respectable for a 4 dr family sedan :D :D :D
Oh yeah, and the handling, it suprises pretty much every single person that rides in my car and that is with stock bushings and no stb's. I'm almost thinking a 1.0 on a skidpad isn't out of the question, but that's just speculation, and what do i know... i'll have to get my g-tech out to a skidpad one of these days...

So to all you that are trying to rain on my parade :finger: :D

Adam
05-16-2001, 03:13 PM
when i said 87 caravan could beat the G20...well.. maybe you didn't catch my sarcasm:rolleyes: ;)

G22DET
05-16-2001, 06:23 PM
This "chris" dude drives an Echo??? hahahahahahaha...well, i guess i shouldnt make fun of echoes cuz they do travel pretty fast......speed of sound right?

dont worry chris, i know it's a joke, you are probably happy in whatever you drive...and you are providing us with some entertainment and something to laugh about (you) with your ignorant statements and uneducated comments.

keep in mind that most people in this forum are mature and serious about the car so if you are between the age of 5 to 10...I hears there's this place in called Lego Land in California that lets childern, 12 years old or younger, in for free. That way you can build some super duper Lego cars and race them....you might be able to impress little girls

GOOD LUCK!!!!

JustinP10
05-16-2001, 08:12 PM
Originally posted by Adam
when i said 87 caravan could beat the G20...well.. maybe you didn't catch my sarcasm:rolleyes: ;)

No, I got it, After rereading what i wrote, i should have added more faces or something to it, cause it sounds real seroius, when it shouldn't have been like that. I didn't mean anything bad by what i said, just that I wouldn't want people coming on this forum talking shit or ragging on G20's, just the same way i'm sure a mustang board doesn't want to hear about camaros, etc...

Oops...

Chris
05-17-2001, 09:26 AM
No, I don't drive an echo, they suck (not the sound, the car)
Yes, any car, modded enough can be awesome. What I should have said is basic modding (lowering, stiffer bushings and shocks, that stuff, thicker anti-roll bars, bigger wheels-tires, engine mods [nothing crazy, like blowers or turbos, NOS ok, no internal stuff])
Yes, for the money the G20 is a good car. It is very Eureopean. It handles well, goes ok in a straight line (It is kinda weak, though, it should have 200 hp. That can be done easily enough)
The M3 is a better car, but it is twice as much on a good day.
EVERYONE is optimistic about their car. For the money, the G20 is as good a handler, eureopean type car you can get. And I'm slightly older than 10.

Koojo
05-17-2001, 10:14 PM
I just got back and read all these replies and my subject has gone way off the coarse. Replies about 0-60 would be pretty good. But i dunno, thats just my opinion. Its all good wit me. peace

primera_gte
05-18-2001, 12:30 AM
so does anyone know what the 0-60 time for a 2002 g20?

b-b00gie
05-18-2001, 05:25 AM
not too sure... havents seen many reports cause every year the car reviews are like... "the g20 hasnt changed"

i do know that the 99's (manual) were 0-60 8.5seconds stock. the 00+ have 5 more hp and different 1st and 2nd gears which accelerate faster off the line... so i'm guessing a stock 2002 G in manual will do about 8 to 8.3 seconds

primera man
05-18-2001, 05:35 AM
This Primera 2.0L CVT has a 9.6sec 0-60MPH

b-b00gie
05-18-2001, 06:31 AM
are you sure about that?!?!?!

the CVT has the SR20VE in it.. which is 190HP


then again its not manual.. or REAL manual anyway.. but still 9.6 sounds like way too long

also the CVT's are 6 speed not 5!!

b-b00gie
05-18-2001, 06:39 AM
maybe the euro version's dont have the VE??

I know for SURE that the Japanese Primera Camino CVT has the SR20VE which is 190hp through 6 gears... and theres no way in hell it can be slower than the 145hp SR20DE through only 5 gears....

I'll have to find out about that euro spec car as to which engine it comes with...

b-b00gie
05-18-2001, 06:46 AM
ok... i havent found out the engine for sure...

but i did notice that in europe they have a CVT and CVT-M6

the CVT is an automatic which "shifts smoother" so i guess 9.6 sounds resonable now...

i thought you were referring to the CVT-M6 which is one of those sequential automatic/manual/shift on the fly systems...

also the M-6 is the one w/ the 6 speed...

not sure if the euro M-6 comes with the VE or DE, but in Japan its the VE

G-Forces
05-18-2001, 08:30 AM
The CVT is a tranny that uses two variable gears to vary the gear ratio infinitly. Theoretically it's the smoothest automatic because there is no shifting only a belt moving along smooth surfaces as the ratio is changed. Also thoretically the tranny can change the ratios on the fly and keep the engine at 4500rpm or whereever the max power is produces and just change the gear ratios. So the engine speed is stable but you accelerate.

The CVT-M6 just creates stepped ratios that it snaps into so that you get that geared tranny feel. It's still infinitly variable. Hence the name Continously Variable Transmission. :cool: I'll stick to my geared manual trannies, Thank You!

Chris
05-18-2001, 08:38 AM
Manuals are more fun, but CVT's are, ahem, faster, and get better fuel economy. So 9.6 sounds way of.
Also, CVT's can't handle alot of power (they break), but they are improving all the time!

Chris
05-18-2001, 09:18 AM
One of my magazines had an article on it. THey are the tranny of the future, my friend. Maybe.

doodledo824
05-18-2001, 01:38 PM
i don't know that much about the euro-spec primera so i guess ihave to get schooled. On a recent visit to portugal i noticed that they use 98 octane gas and their cars don't conform to the strict emissions that our cars do.. they don't believe in 5mph bumpers or side reinforced door beems, hence aren't they lighter and more free breathing. Wouldn't that make them faster? i did get a chance to drive a nissan sunny which looks alot like a sentra and has the ga16de motor. this thing hauled serious ass. The cars over there seemed tuned more for top end. My rental nissan micra with a 1.0(that's right a 1.0)was able to hit 180 kph ;that's sick.

primera man
05-18-2001, 02:20 PM
Check out this site on Primera's. Has info/tests/new/used cars etc .....intresting stuff.
There are a lot more models then what i thought there was.

www.motorweb.ie

primera man
05-18-2001, 02:21 PM
Forgot to say it is a Irish site !!!!!!!:D :D :D

G22DET
05-19-2001, 01:11 AM
i am pretty sure the euro primera don't have the sr20ve...they might have the cvt tranny, but i know the sr20ve is jdm only

c5bluer6
05-20-2001, 08:38 PM
i have a 2002 g20 and it sure as hell feels faster than 8.5 but i do have 215 hoosier dot approved race slicks and k&n filter, with some..custom modificates :D i'll tell you one thing i don't need brakes with these tires, i just turn

igor@af
05-20-2001, 08:43 PM
I see this is your first post c5bluer6 :)

Welcome to AutomotiveForums.com!!!
I hope you enjoy your stay here and please do not hesitate to contact me if you have any questions/problems/suggestions. :D

I also want to talk to you about something on AIM, can you get on?
My s/n is autoroar

thanks

Chris
05-21-2001, 07:59 PM
Welcome C5Bleur. Post some pics of your car please!

Neil82
06-02-2001, 11:17 AM
http://www.btinternet.com/~j.ewing/video/0-85.mpeg

Go here and download the video of my primera 2.0 SRi P11 (130 HP) doing 0-85mph. On a German autobahn of course :-). The official 0-60 time of my car is 9.8, look what i get! of course it could just be down to my skill :-)


Neil

JustinP10
06-04-2001, 02:15 AM
Well everyone, i finally got my G-tech back last night, and tonight I tested it out with a couple of back to back 0-60 runs :-)
Here's the info:
Full car of crap, sub (single 12") spare, jack, everything in car. myself driving and a passenger. So it's about normal for everyday street driving.
I am still not that great getting off the line, i either spin em or kinda bog with this lightened flywheel, but I will get it down, now that i have my g-tech back :-) I had a chance to test it at a couple lights (out in the middle of BFE, don't worry) and i averaged 8.1 seconds. Got a couple 8.2x's, a few 8.1xs, and a 8.0x. Now, it's also about 90* outside still, so I'm totally confident that with a little more practice with the lightened flywheel, or even a tad less weight (no passenger, sub, etc...) I could pretty easily cut a 7.9 or lower 0-60, no problem. If I get real ambitious later in the week I'll pull my sub and go test... just need to find a smooth road in the middle of nowhere, so it's as safe as possible...
Hope this helps answer some questions...

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