huge fuel leak under the hood

well my Aurora is asking for more $$$$ in repairs
now i have huge fuel leak under the hood - its so bad that there my gas gauge needle went down very quick.

i'm suspecting crack in fuel rail next to injectors or leaking fuel pressure regulator

one good thing that it is quite cold here in Chicago and it didn't catch on fire !!!! damn GM engenieers makin' 6 figure salaries and designin' such a crappy unreliable vehicle

anybody had any experience with similar problem ?
i've read somewhere about upgrade to fuel rails - where can i find it ?

thanks in advance

IronKrakus

Do search as this has been covered before in great detail.

BKVic

That fuel rail is going to be a dealer type item. If you're in Chicago though, you might try to find a place called Factory Auto Parts. I know they've got a warehouse somewhere out there. One of the Chevy dealers out here in Iowa told me that's the first place they check for Delco parts whenever they don't stock something. They do sell directly to the public. I saved $80-$120 on my battery depending on who I asked (not to mention 2-3 weeks to get it) and they had 17 in stock. If they have or can get that metal fuel rail kit it'll likely be likewise discounted. I'm not at home to doublecheck that this matches my invoice but I pulled this off of dexonline.com:


FACTORY MOTOR PARTS CO
2414 W MONTROSE AVE
CHICAGO, IL
(773) 463-0013

Take a look here for more info:

http://consumeraffairs.com/news03/gm_nhtsa_probe.html

thanks a lot guys !!!! right now car is at pep boys - it was the closest place to where i left the car - pretty much same parking lot
will post updates on monday.

I need to call GM and report it - maybe someday they will anounce recall.

Ironkrakus

Just thought this thread was interesting, the last thing stated is that their should be a recall on this problem. Well what do you know, they actually did make a recall. and yes I know this was posted before. Kind of funny though... :rofl:

Hello Iron:

Several things so you do not have to look all over the place andsearch.

1. The Fuel pressure regular, on the driver side on the rear side of the engibe block may be leaking. You may be able to get this Pep Boys or its about $ 80.00 to $ 100.00 at your GMC dealership.

2. The leak may be from the fuel rail. I just had two hose sections front and back of the rail leak. You may or may not know that Oldsmobile is recalling the Aurora because of this. The current hose materials used when they built the car wears out and leaks fuel.

As a stop gap until GM decides my car fall unders the Recall, this they can do at Pep Boys,have them replace the hose sections that are leaking with a another high pressure fuel hose and have them close it snug with proper size hose clamps.

3. You may have a leak from the fuel rail line that runs may from the gas fuel filer to the fuel rail line starts in the engine.

If you drive the car and its leaks, your Aurora, could be a real red rocket. SO BE CAREFUL.
E-mail me if you have any questions: cmdrgala@pacbell.net

thanks for all the help guys !!!

The fuel leak was caused by raptured fuel line - Pep Boys got it fixed for around $460
I've saved the recepit and hopefully when GM recalls my car i' will be able to get some kind of a refound.

Now i have another problem - it looks like my cooling system is overpressurized and it "explodes" quite often lately.
There is plenty of smoke under the hood and i smell burned coolant.

I will repalce the thermostat and hoses and hose clamps. I also might need new radiator - anyone with link or website that might sell them ?
dealer wants over $500 just for the radiator itself !

thanks in advance

IronKrakus

Ebay has one listed for 95-96 and I see yours is a 97. Not sure if this one will works, so maybe you might need to check with a dealer to see if it will work with a 97. You would think it should fit but again I am unsure. Here is the link Radiator on Ebay 95-96 (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2472340513&category=33602) It is a new radiator for $205 buy it now, what a deal if its what you need. Again though please check with a local dealer to see if it will fit a 97 or if anyone else knows please inform us if it will fit a 97. Good luck!!

Thanks a lot !!! i will check it out.

Ironkrakus

the guy on ebay selling them said he has one for a 97 and its 170 plus shipping.

Did you check your "radiator" cap? Mine was the problem, it used to "burst" at 250 on the temp. gage. See if your cap has ANY cracks at the seal. Mine did. Replaced with an original part (new) and problem solved.

I believe there is a class action lawsuit against GM for this fuel rail leak. I haven't seen the problem on my car but you guys having the problem might want to do some research, you may be able to get your replacement costs back.

Hey ericmf, there has been a recall for 96 and 97 Aurora already and plans to recall 95 too. No need for a class action lawsuit, people are just too darn sue happy. And yes anyone can get their cost reimbursed by contacting their local Oldmobile or GM dealer if their vehicle falls within the recall.

Class action lawsuits...geez, if GM had to deal with EVERY class action lawsuit we would not have the General around. This issue doesnt effect EVERY car, thats why recalls are made available. Similar story with the EGR stove pipe/upper intake manifold failure on L36's (Series II 3800's).

You are quite right Keller, everyone is far to hasty to think to sue...

I recieved my recall notice the other day but when I called my old Olds dealer he no longer did waranty work so I had to call the customer service number to get another dealer. Anyway, I had to drive 40 miles to get the fuel rails replaced with the stainless ones. No other problems.

You should callled them and see if there is arecall on it. I recieved a letter for my 96 aurora for a crack in the fuel line. I took it to the dealer and the fixed it for free.

After doing some research on this and another board, I talked to three dealers about the leak on my fuel rail. Got the same answer from them all "not covered by the recall". I have a 95 with plastic lines and a pin hole between two injectors. How could it not be covered?

This is a scary deal. My wife drives the car in city traffic daily. This thing is sqiurting a fine little line of gas onto the top of the motor. I smelled gas a couple of weeks ago, but thought it was the junker next to me. The only reason I found it is I had the cover off the motor yet from replacing the wires/plugs, and was going to change the oil and coolant.

One of the dealers gave me this number for GM 1-800-442-6537. 15 minutes later Darla (ext.58186) had talked to the service manager at the dealer of my choice and told me to call him tomorrow. He will do paperwork and check part availability. The down side is that the recall is still pending and the new metal lines are not available yet for the "95. They will replace with plastic for now and metal when/if they recall. GM will cover costs.

I would have never known about the recall without the info on this forum.

I was confused to find out that my 95 was not included in the recall for now, even though a GM representative said that it was made with the same nylon tube. I did an inquire with GM and here is the email they sent back to me to update me on what will happen with the 95 models. So for you 95 owners we will have to wait for a while yet.

Thank you for contacting the Oldsmobile Customer Assistance Center. We appreciate you taking the time to write us in regards to the fuel rail recall on some Oldsmobile Auroras. At this time, a recall covering the 1995 model year Aurora has not been released. Recall 04014, currently only covers the 1996 and 1997 model year. There are plans to extend the recall to cover some the 1995 model year Aurora's, once parts have been made available. Owners of affected vehicles will be notified via mail. The letter will be sent to the addresses of owner's that all local DMV's currently have on file. If you have any questions or concerns, please do not hesitate to contact us again.

If you should need to contact us in the future, simply reply to this message with your service request number, 1-224517956, or call our Oldsmobile Customer Assistance Center at 1-800-442-6537. Customer Relationship Managers are available Monday through Friday from 8:00 a.m. to 11:00 p.m., Eastern Time.

Again, thank you for contacting Oldsmobile.

Sincerely,

Zack Sonneborn
Customer Relationship Manager
Oldsmobile Customer Assistance Center

I talked to the service manager at University Olds in Lansing today and he said it is all set up. GM will take care of it. I'm sure they want to see my leaking line to help determine the recall. I hope they will issue it so everyone can know about this. Parts guy said the new old style rail should be in tomorrow.

Like I said it is a scary thing to know that my wife has been driving the car for I'm not sure how long with this leak. I beleive the only reason it did not catch on fire is that I did not put the cover on the motor when I did the plugs and wires.

GM needs to fix this on ALL cars with the plastic lines.

I am also concerned with my '98. It has the same lines as the 97 does. Guess they want to wait until somebody explodes before doing anything.

I am also concerned with my '98. It has the same lines as the 97 does. Guess they want to wait until somebody explodes before doing anything.
If you have the plastic are you sure it's a 98?
I thought Olds had changed to the metal ones by then.

Yes, it is a '98. The lines are stainless leading up to the injectors. Between the injectors is where that black plastic is. Manufact Date is Aug '98. Maybe that is the way it was changed to? Not sure how far the plastic runs on the pre '98. Have you looked at you lines under the engine cover? You have a '98 correct?

Yes, it is a '98. The lines are stainless leading up to the injectors. Between the injectors is where that black plastic is. Manufact Date is Aug '98. Maybe that is the way it was changed to? Not sure how far the plastic runs on the pre '98. Have you looked at you lines under the engine cover? You have a '98 correct?
The recall is for the fuel rail - you have a stainless fuel rail and don't need to be on the recall.
Some of the lines are nylon even on the 98's and up, they should be OK though, it's on the fuel rail that the leak may happen.