d17 crank in a d16 block?
dsCRXsi
02-13-2004, 08:42 PM
I was on another site and some guy used a d17 crank in his d17. but he ended up haveing alot of compression. I was wondering if theres a way to get less compression.
Heres a copy of the article.
I picked up a d17 crank from a 01 civic DX and just for fun I brought it home to fit in my bare d16y8 block. Wouldn't you know it, it fits. But not of course without some problems.
1: you need to use the D17 oil pump because the snout on the crank is much thicker then the y8 crank. No problem because it actually bolts on like a champ. (new problem, there is no accomadation for a dip stick because while the y8 pump has a hole in it for the dipstick this new d17's pump does not.
2: In their infinite wisdom, honda has now made the already inferior d-series rods "thinner" thus compelling one to have the rods "trimmed up" on the sides. Not a problem because I was going to have to do that with the B-series rods that were going in there.
Overall this is a great discovery. The bore on the d17 is the same so they had to have gotten the extra 100cc's through the crank. I'd like to think that I'm the 1st one attempting this build.
Now the questions as to what the actual stroke of this crank is so I can figure out what pistons to use. I'm planning on a nice strong y8 setup with a little more umph. The Y8 head is on the table awaiting some homegrown porting and polishing once I finish up the bottom end. I've got d15b7 pistons and a set of d16a1 pistons as we speak, who knows if it will all clear. Time to find the clay!
I'll post picts when I get home from work.
I do everything myself. Yes, a dremel or die grinder is in my future! Actually, I have a roto-zip that I prefer and I use 1/4" shank attachments. It will be my first time doing a head. I'm a little anxious however I think it'll go very well. Thats what the search button is for. I'm looking at using the d17 rods and pistons because the compression height is the smallest of all the d-series pistons of 27mm vs. most other d-series pistons which are closer to 30mm. The 13010-plr-a00 (01 DX pistons) are about $35 and I will need one replacement rod (13210-plm-a00) for about $88. I'm not too happy about the price but its certainly much cheaper than aftermarket.
Does anyone know what rings I can use with this setup? I know 1988-1995 rings are the same but in 1996-2000 they went to a slightly different set of rings. I'm hopeful that the 01+ rings will be similar/the same as the 96-00 rings(simply because I stock them here at my work)
Heres a copy of the article.
I picked up a d17 crank from a 01 civic DX and just for fun I brought it home to fit in my bare d16y8 block. Wouldn't you know it, it fits. But not of course without some problems.
1: you need to use the D17 oil pump because the snout on the crank is much thicker then the y8 crank. No problem because it actually bolts on like a champ. (new problem, there is no accomadation for a dip stick because while the y8 pump has a hole in it for the dipstick this new d17's pump does not.
2: In their infinite wisdom, honda has now made the already inferior d-series rods "thinner" thus compelling one to have the rods "trimmed up" on the sides. Not a problem because I was going to have to do that with the B-series rods that were going in there.
Overall this is a great discovery. The bore on the d17 is the same so they had to have gotten the extra 100cc's through the crank. I'd like to think that I'm the 1st one attempting this build.
Now the questions as to what the actual stroke of this crank is so I can figure out what pistons to use. I'm planning on a nice strong y8 setup with a little more umph. The Y8 head is on the table awaiting some homegrown porting and polishing once I finish up the bottom end. I've got d15b7 pistons and a set of d16a1 pistons as we speak, who knows if it will all clear. Time to find the clay!
I'll post picts when I get home from work.
I do everything myself. Yes, a dremel or die grinder is in my future! Actually, I have a roto-zip that I prefer and I use 1/4" shank attachments. It will be my first time doing a head. I'm a little anxious however I think it'll go very well. Thats what the search button is for. I'm looking at using the d17 rods and pistons because the compression height is the smallest of all the d-series pistons of 27mm vs. most other d-series pistons which are closer to 30mm. The 13010-plr-a00 (01 DX pistons) are about $35 and I will need one replacement rod (13210-plm-a00) for about $88. I'm not too happy about the price but its certainly much cheaper than aftermarket.
Does anyone know what rings I can use with this setup? I know 1988-1995 rings are the same but in 1996-2000 they went to a slightly different set of rings. I'm hopeful that the 01+ rings will be similar/the same as the 96-00 rings(simply because I stock them here at my work)
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