Well stil havent raced anyone from a dead stop yet but on the way from getting my exhaust done my buddy has a 92 SHO 5 speed and thats a quick car, we were at about a 30mph roll, he gets on it so i got on it and blew right by him, he calls my celli and is like " dude i want your car, i just like nutted myself, i was couldnt even keep up" so then we are driving about about 10 min later, i am behind him, he hits the hazards and drops a gear, it was still a double lane road but i didnt feel like passing him. so i just road his ass, i didnt have to take it over 6000, and i was just boosting on him the whole time. he called me up after and says "I want your car, that thing is nasty, i just nutted myself every time i heard the BOV. I couldnt even pull on you and I was hitting rev limter.

That made my day since alot of people thought his car was really fast and all since he ran like a high 14, even though this was from a roll, his car doesnt start moving until 3rd anyway because its so heavy and you got to wait for the secondarys to open.




Last night, 12:30 in the morning, I see a black 95ish camaro, z28 emblems on the side, had a aftermarket exhaust, but rectangle tips so i dont know what kind it was- sounded good though so I come up on him, drive on the side then slowly pull away (so he cant hear the turbo) a few minutes later he comes flying by me, then slows down, so i catch back up and get on the side of him, we slow down to about 50-55mph. I pointed at him and told him to go and he took off, so yut its on now, i nailed it and to my surpize (and his) i caught up and passed him. then we did it again and i pulled on him once again, he gave me the thumbs up as i was taking my exit. now i hate racing on the highway because i hate going stupid fast but wow what a rush. I dont know if he would of beat me in the 1/4 but i pulled on him from a roll, and i would think i could beat him in the 1/4 then because i could probably get a better launch and my car is lighter but i dont know, either way it was a LT1 camaro so im happy.


I cant wait to take her to the track and see what she runs now. oh yea no flames about the camaro I did not make it up. Im not saying i pulled on him like it was a escort or something, i pulled on him enough to go damn though, i let off after i had about 2 car lenghts on him.

Kyle

yo...tight racing dude..
what kind of turbo kit do you have..do you have a front mount.??
those z28's run low 14 to high 13's so if you won your car is pretty quick....how much boost you crankin

I got a B18, with a rebuilt factory saab T3 turbo (Awsome turbo, boost is there in any gear right away) I am only running about 5 psi with no intercooler yet, i will get one soon enough (after a better clutch) cheak out my cardomain

Kyle

Last night, 12:30 in the morning, I see a black 95ish camaro, z28 emblems on the side, had a aftermarket exhaust, but rectangle tips so i dont know what kind it was- sounded good though


Nice kills bro... :bigthumb:


Just for info purposes though, if it had black rectangle tips, it was probably the stock exhaust. LT1's are pretty loud stock. If it was louder than stock like you said, the he probably had headers and/or a gutted cat. :)

Nice job.. sounds like some cool people in your area too. most people here get mad if you beat them. Only 5 psi? Thats pretty impressive considering that, way to go man.

thanks guys, yea most people are cool about racing around here.

I bet that Camaro had either hollowed out cats or a Y pipe because it was loud but after looking at some pictures those were stock Z28 tips.


Im still surpized how quick my car is now, I just started playing with the boost controller and I got it at 6psi now, I dont want to run it more then that with no intercooler. just for shits and gigles i cranked it all the way and shifted when it hit 10psi, it was at 10psi at about 4000 rpm and wow it was fast, i wish i could run that all the time but i need my motor to last.


I got a guy around here with a 03 Mach 1 mustang, I have driven these because i work at a ford dealership but they really dont seem that quick allthough they spec out pretty fast. I bet this thing will tear me up, but then again if I can get him off the line it might be a desent race, Do you guys think I have any chances of beating him (at 6psi)? I dont want to race him if I am going to look silly, and I know if I do loose Im gonna want to reach for the boost controller and end up driving home on a tow truck. lol

Kyle

good kills man, totally jealous of your car. wish i had the money to boost a honda.

eeek....mach 1...if im not mistaken dont they come with the supercharged cobra engine? thatd make em what-13 flat in the 1/4? youre probably mid/high 13's....i dunno....get a good launch and osme good shifts in there and it may be close. I dont quite know though.

Nope, a Mach 1 is N/A, something like 320 hp...

eeek....mach 1...if im not mistaken dont they come with the supercharged cobra engine? thatd make em what-13 flat in the 1/4? youre probably mid/high 13's....i dunno....get a good launch and osme good shifts in there and it may be close. I dont quite know though.

The Mach1's modular engine is based off of the 99' and 01' Cobra's motor, just tuned for more low-end power. NO supercharger.

They have been known to turn low 13's bone-stock.

IntegraB18, I am not sure you'd be able to hang with just 6psi, especially from a stop, although you'll probably have a better chance from a roll.

Nope, a Mach 1 is N/A, something like 320 hp...

Well i'll be....then it should be an even closer race....

the Mach 1 is pretty much a mustang GT, with the cobra motor without the supercharger, it is 5 speed and stright axle, the cobra is IRS and 6 speed.


I guess i'll race him for fun, see what happins i am 95% sure he will smoke me but there is a little chance i could take him, depending on traction and if he knows how to drive at all, he doesnt seem like he knows how to and just has the car to try to get girls.

nice kill broi have a kill simaliar to that

Good hunting man. Soon the consistant winning will get old and you'll want a bigger challenge, and none of the faster guys will even bother. Been there.

Mach 1's have 305 hp and run 13.9-14.1 stock.. they have a DOHC 4.6.... LT1 camaro's run 14.4 and don't have much top end..i think it would beet your car in the quarter..

the Mach 1 is pretty much a mustang GT, with the cobra motor without the supercharger, it is 5 speed and stright axle, the cobra is IRS and 6 speed.


No, the Mach1 is NOT "pretty much a Mustang GT". Not even close, except for the body.

The Mach has a 4-valve-per-cyl, DOHC motor that puts out an underrated 305-crank-HP, and 320-ft-lbs of TQ.

The GT has a 2-valver, SOHC that puts out 260-crank-HP and 302-ft-lbs of TQ.

The Mach1 also has good top-end, due in part to its actual functional "shaker" hood-scoop.

No, the Mach1 is NOT "pretty much a Mustang GT". Not even close, except for the body.

The Mach has a 4-valve-per-cyl, DOHC motor that puts out an underrated 305-crank-HP, and 320-ft-lbs of TQ.

The GT has a 2-valver, SOHC that puts out 260-crank-HP and 302-ft-lbs of TQ.

The Mach1 also has good top-end, due in part to its actual functional "shaker" hood-scoop.


as I said the body is the same, except it uses the cobra motor without the supercharger, and uses the standard 5 speed tranny unlike the cobra that uses a 6 speed. and it still doesnt get the nice IRS the cobra has either, so basically it is just a Mustang GT with a 4 valve motor, nothing real special. I know all about the motors, I work for a ford dealership, I have ripped a part so many of these motors, and i know how many valves they have. though I never get to take the for road tests anymore :(

Do you guys think I have a better chance in beating him on the highway or in the 1/4 I talked to him last night and he wants to race from a 50mph roll he says cuz he cant get any traction - that makes me want to race him in the 1/4 but thats kinda cheating

Kyle

your only chance is on the highway..

as I said the body is the same, except it uses the cobra motor without the supercharger, and uses the standard 5 speed tranny unlike the cobra that uses a 6 speed. and it still doesnt get the nice IRS the cobra has either, so basically it is just a Mustang GT with a 4 valve motor, nothing real special.

That's like saying an Integra Type R is basically an Integra GS-R with a better suspension, and five lugs, or an STi is basically a Subaru Impreza 2.5 with a turbo. http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif

Is the Mustang GT a V6 with two more cylinders then? Or is the Lightning an F-150 with a supercharger.

If you really work at a Ford dealership, you of all people should know the difference in the cars.

The only MAJOR difference is the engine, 95% of everything else is interchangeable with the GT

The Cobra has alot of differences but the GT and the mach 1 is very similer.

the mach 1 is closer to the GT then the GT is to the 6cyl, the 6 cyl uses a different engine,tranny, and im not positive if it comes with the 8.8 or not. obviously yea the suspention varys between models...


but really Mach 1 has a hole in the hood, a different motor, more power,move valves.. and thats about it, stiffer springs to probably.

the mach 1 uses the same engine as the 320 horsepower Cobras from 2001, but they changed the cam and some other stuff.. thats why the out put is different.. thats what i heard anyways. it kinda makes sence cause Ford would spend a lot more money creating total different motors opposed to slightly changing one they already have.. so he's semi correct in the sence that the mach 1 has the cobra motor without the super charger.. or am i 100% incorrect?

The only MAJOR difference is the engine, 95% of everything else is interchangeable with the GT

The Cobra has alot of differences but the GT and the mach 1 is very similer.

the mach 1 is closer to the GT then the GT is to the 6cyl, the 6 cyl uses a different engine,tranny, and im not positive if it comes with the 8.8 or not. obviously yea the suspention varys between models...


but really Mach 1 has a hole in the hood, a different motor, more power,move valves.. and thats about it, stiffer springs to probably.

So you're saying a Civic EX is glorified Civic LX right? Notice how dumb that sounds?

You are disqualifying a more competent car by saying it's nothing but a glorified version of a lesser model. Duh. That's why the other one is a "lesser" model.

You're saying that the only difference is the motor. What the hell else makes a car what it is?

What makes more sense: calling your car a hybrid period, or calling it "a glorified EX"? You notice how derogatory that sounds?

What makes more sense: calling it a Mach1, or "a glorified Mustang GT"?

What makes more sense: calling it a Mach1, or "a glorified Mustang GT"?

From a Ford enthusiast's as well as a marketing POV, Id say calling it a Mach 1 makes more sense. Though, will that car ever actually reach Mach 1? From a physicist's POV, it's pretty stupid.

It's almost(actually not even close) as stupid as someone saying, "well even with 400 hp, you're still driving a honda." It's all depending on who's saying it.

It looks like the difference between a Mach 1 and GT performance wise is similar to that of a GSR and Type R(20 ponies in a 4), while what they actualy did to achieve the difference is more like... and HX and an LS... theres nothing really similar... It's a lot easier to make power in these bigger engines, but don't get me wrong it's an awesome car, and I would call it what it is, a Mach 1, but I wouldn't get all offended if someone said I have an LS, only it has VTEC.

i think the difference between a GT and a mach 1 is greater than that of a type R and GSR.. The GT has a sohc and the mach has a dohc.. at least the b18's are both dohc...

i think the difference between a GT and a mach 1 is greater than that of a type R and GSR.. The GT has a sohc and the mach has a dohc.. at least the b18's are both dohc...

Thats why I said "performance" because 20-25 doubled is roughly 40-50 hp, and even though V8s aren't as efficient, it is 'roughly' close.