2000 expedition catches fire

Looking For Owners Whose 2000 Ford Expedition Have Caught Fire. Due To An Electrical Fire. Need Dates And Proof (investigation Report From Insurance Company Would Be Great) Please Help Me. Ford Is Not Cooperating At All. Need Asap. Want To Go After Ford. Had Recall Done For Wiper Motor And Still Lost The Vehical Due To Fire. Complete Loss.
Has This Happened To You.

Last night my 2002 Ford Expedition caught fire after just driving it 26 miles from home. The adjuster stated it was an electrical fire and my vechile just immediately blew up in flames. Luckly I was able to make it safely out of the passenger side door, because the drivers side was already ingulfed in flames. The vehicle is a total loss, because everything was burnt and there is nothing left. Would also like to find out what Ford is going to do about this, because a vehicle should not just have a spontaneous combustion for no reason.

Filed with the Highway Safetyboard still havent heard a word. Ford still hasnt replied. Bought a Dodge. Glad your safe.

1999 Ford Expedition fire burns down airplane hangar.

I hope you guys win, and I'm glad you guys lived to post another day.

Remember, Ford had problems with Aerostar vans and Crown Victorias catching fire, when unattended a few years ago. The problem turned out to be defective ignition switches (on the steering column) that would short out and burst into flames. True to form, Ford is STILL using the SAME switches in their Expeditions, Excursions, and trucks.

Ford came back and stated that basically they were sorry for our loss, but there is nothing they can do. They have no appeals department or anything on the decisions they make. Not very good customer service if you ask me. I also just bought a new Dodge and I am extremely happy with it. Thanks everyone!

On July 23, 2004, our 2000 Ford Expedition caught fire in our garage burning our home down. We had taken it in for the wiper blade recall, but had recently had our rear wiper and cruise control to go out. We were in our garage 1 hour before the fire with nothing happening at that time. My son woke up to flames outside his window (he was asleep in the room above the garage) and smoke coming through the floor. We ran out with the smoke alarms going off as we ran out. Our son's room fell into the fire 10 minutes after we got out of the house. The insurance adjuster says there is not enough of the Expedition left to show proof it started the fire, however the hood was actually melted and the evidence showed the fire started in the area of the Expedition.
The State Fire Marshall Investigator said he had no doubt that the Ford started the fire, as well as all Fire Chiefs and Fire Fighters that were called to the scene (5 units in all). Evidently the insurance company can pay the claim for less than fighting Ford even though our losses were tremendous, we had a 6000 square foot home with a lot of loss including another vehicle in the garage. Our son nearly lost his life, what's it going to take for Ford to take responsibility for this - actual loss of life? We will spend the next year of our life rebuilding and replacing 27 years accumulation of our things. However we can't replace our memories and cherished mementos. We'll never own another Ford and are warning everyone about them. By the way, 2 weeks ago a 1999 Expedition burned in the garage of another home in Pleasant View, Mo. Let's go after them!

2000 Ford Expedition had the same exact problems rear wiper stopped working and cruise control did not work. Parked the car in the garage and 5 minutes later the truck was on fire. Totaled the truck and Infiniti G35 coupe next to it. Special investigator looked at the truck and determined that the fire originated from the cruise control deactivation device. This just happened the other day so we are waiting for official results. Once I have will post.

Please let us know when you find out what the problem was. Ours was so destroyed they can't tell what caused it to burn. Thanks, Curt

Hi. Our 2000 Expedition caught fire about a week ago, 10 minutes after we returned home. Our truck was totalled and the adjuster as well as the fire department think that it was an electrical defect from the factory. We never had any problems with the truck. My husband emailed the board of directors at Ford and told them what happened and we never received a response. Is anyone thinking of a possible class action law suit???

Looking For Owners Whose 2000 Ford Expedition Have Caught Fire. Due To An Electrical Fire. Need Dates And Proof (investigation Report From Insurance Company Would Be Great) Please Help Me. Ford Is Not Cooperating At All. Need Asap. Want To Go After Ford. Had Recall Done For Wiper Motor And Still Lost The Vehical Due To Fire. Complete Loss.
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Hi, I just posted under "akschex" our expedition caught fire a week ago today. Adjuster and Fire Department both said that it was an electrical defect from factory. My husband emailed the board of directors at Ford and never received a reply. Are you thinking of a possible class action lawsuit? If so, we would definetly be interested.

Hi, I just posted under "akschex" our expedition caught fire a week ago today. Adjuster and Fire Department both said that it was an electrical defect from factory. My husband emailed the board of directors at Ford and never received a reply. Are you thinking of a possible class action lawsuit? If so, we would definetly be interested.


I also have the report from the Fire Department and also many pictures. Most of the damage was on the Driver's side. I can email them to you if you would like. Please let me know.

my email is akschex@cox.net

Thanks.

We did not know that a forum like this one existed, got the information from a neighbor down the street.

I just had my 2000 Expedition catch fire on Saturday. Fire started in the engine compartment on the driver's side. Fortunately, my wife and I were outside doing yard work and noticed burning pieces of plastic falling to the driveway. By the time the fire department got here the entire front end was in flames and melted part of the vinyl siding over my garage. Claims adjuster is coming this morning but the fire marshall said that they would have to list cause of fire as undetermined.

Still in the process of trying to find a lawyer that will take a look at all this. I am still trying to get an appointment with the Colorado State Attorney General. If anyone can help please let me know. Thank GOD no one has been hurt or KILLED.

I have contacted 3 attorneys and none are interested because nobody got hurt. My insurance co will go after Ford. Did anyone else's insurance co do a cause and origin investigation? I know of one other co-worker who has 2000 Expedition with same symptoms, cruise does not work and rear wiper also broken. Did anyone else have these symptoms. How else can we find out about other cases.

Thats definately not a good thing. I own a 99 expedition eddie bauer and the rear wiper doesnt work anymore. I guess i should keep an eye and my nose on things in my car just in case i see smoke or smell anything burning. Good thing i found this. Keep me informed on this if possible and ill keep checking back also to know whats going on. I hope ford has some kind of balls and admits they screwed up if that is the case, which sure damn sounds like it.

Looking For Owners Whose 2000 Ford Expedition Have Caught Fire. Due To An Electrical Fire. Need Dates And Proof (investigation Report From Insurance Company Would Be Great) Please Help Me. Ford Is Not Cooperating At All. Need Asap. Want To Go After Ford. Had Recall Done For Wiper Motor And Still Lost The Vehical Due To Fire. Complete Loss.
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PLEASE SEND ME A PRIVATE EMAIL WITH YOUR CONTACT INFORMATION. I WOULD LOVE TO DISCUSS THIS WITH YOU.

I have contacted 3 attorneys and none are interested because nobody got hurt. My insurance co will go after Ford. Did anyone else's insurance co do a cause and origin investigation? I know of one other co-worker who has 2000 Expedition with same symptoms, cruise does not work and rear wiper also broken. Did anyone else have these symptoms. How else can we find out about other cases.

PLEASE SEND ME YOUR CONTACT INFORMATION. WOULD LOVE TO DISCUSS.

Today is the 24th and my 00 expedition was in my garage at 3:00am when my husband awoke and saw flames coming from the hood of my truck. The truck had been sitting still for over 13 hours. We immediately called 911. After it was all over I had a shell of a truck and over 80,000 in damages to my brand new home. We have three children and thank God they were at there father's house when this happened. I work for a Saturn dealership and I am going to exhaust every resource that I have until someone does something. I can't believe that a corp. as large as Ford, can sit back and not claim fault for these incidents. I assue you that the Saturn Corporation would stand behind each and everyone of their products. I will never again own another Ford.

Today is the 24th and my 00 expedition was in my garage at 3:00am when my husband awoke and saw flames coming from the hood of my truck. The truck had been sitting still for over 13 hours. We immediately called 911. After it was all over I had a shell of a truck and over 80,000 in damages to my brand new home. We have three children and thank God they were at there father's house when this happened. I work for a Saturn dealership and I am going to exhaust every resource that I have until someone does something. I can't believe that a corp. as large as Ford, can sit back and not claim fault for these incidents. I assue you that the Saturn Corporation would stand behind each and everyone of their products. I will never again own another Ford.

Send me a private email. I would love to discuss this with you.

This is freakin' me out. Our 2000 Ford Expedition just caught fire today and burned to the ground. I continue to thank God my wife and children were not in it and it was not parked in our garage. I feel terrible to think of those people that lost their homes to these fires. Our insurance adjuster told us this is a known problem with Expeditions! So, we searched the web and found this site. Sounds like Ford is in denial and the attorneys want a corpse before they will go after Ford. What's worse is we also own a 1998 F-150 with the same 5.4L engine. Guess it'll get parked away from the house until I can sell it. If anyone needs help taking Ford on, we're in. bwjohnson@houston.rr.com

Looking For Owners Whose 2000 Ford Expedition Have Caught Fire. Due To An Electrical Fire. Need Dates And Proof (investigation Report From Insurance Company Would Be Great) Please Help Me. Ford Is Not Cooperating At All. Need Asap. Want To Go After Ford. Had Recall Done For Wiper Motor And Still Lost The Vehical Due To Fire. Complete Loss.
Has This Happened To You.
This is amazing. My Expedition also caught fire this past Tuesday and my rear wiper and cruise control also stopped working 2 mos prior. Any legal action that one might have success with please feel free to share.

I do not own an Expedition but was looking in this forum for general info...thinking about trading my '99 Windstar. The Windstar had a recall which had something to do with wiper motors starting fires....Does anyone know if this is the same concern on the Expedition fires?

Has anyone discovered the actual fire starter?

I do not own an Expedition but was looking in this forum for general info...thinking about trading my '99 Windstar. The Windstar had a recall which had something to do with wiper motors starting fires....Does anyone know if this is the same concern on the Expedition fires?

Has anyone discovered the actual fire starter?

I've heard it's a switch on the master brake cylinder on Expedition fires. The Windstar was supposed to be the ignition switch.

Hello,
I'm an investigative reporter for the CBS affiliate in Houston, TX, researching Expedition fires, and would like to know more about your case.
Can you please contact me at your earliest convenience.

Sincerely,

Jeremy Rogalski
Investigative Reporter
KHOU-TV
1945 Allen Parkway
Houston, TX 77019
713-284-8774 (office)
832-878-3591 (mobile)
713-284-1089 (fax)
e-mail: jrogalski@khou.com



QUOTE=Curt Horton]On July 23, 2004, our 2000 Ford Expedition caught fire in our garage burning our home down. We had taken it in for the wiper blade recall, but had recently had our rear wiper and cruise control to go out. We were in our garage 1 hour before the fire with nothing happening at that time. My son woke up to flames outside his window (he was asleep in the room above the garage) and smoke coming through the floor. We ran out with the smoke alarms going off as we ran out. Our son's room fell into the fire 10 minutes after we got out of the house. The insurance adjuster says there is not enough of the Expedition left to show proof it started the fire, however the hood was actually melted and the evidence showed the fire started in the area of the Expedition.
The State Fire Marshall Investigator said he had no doubt that the Ford started the fire, as well as all Fire Chiefs and Fire Fighters that were called to the scene (5 units in all). Evidently the insurance company can pay the claim for less than fighting Ford even though our losses were tremendous, we had a 6000 square foot home with a lot of loss including another vehicle in the garage. Our son nearly lost his life, what's it going to take for Ford to take responsibility for this - actual loss of life? We will spend the next year of our life rebuilding and replacing 27 years accumulation of our things. However we can't replace our memories and cherished mementos. We'll never own another Ford and are warning everyone about them. By the way, 2 weeks ago a 1999 Expedition burned in the garage of another home in Pleasant View, Mo. Let's go after them![/QUOTE]

Does anyone know if the same fire issues are showing up on 99/2000 Excursions?

If you have a fire in your vehicle you should consider reporting it to the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA). The NHTSA is the federal agency responsible for investigating safety related defects in automibiles and works to get those defective vehicles recalled. By contacting the NHTSA you may alert them to a safety defect that should be investigated. The web site is:

http://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/

Please contact Bruce York at NHTSA about this fire. byork@nhtsa.dot.gov

I just had my 2000 Expedition catch fire on Saturday. Fire started in the engine compartment on the driver's side. Fortunately, my wife and I were outside doing yard work and noticed burning pieces of plastic falling to the driveway. By the time the fire department got here the entire front end was in flames and melted part of the vinyl siding over my garage. Claims adjuster is coming this morning but the fire marshall said that they would have to list cause of fire as undetermined.

Please Contact me at the NHTSA.

Bruce York
byork@nhtsa.dot.gov

Today is the 24th and my 00 expedition was in my garage at 3:00am when my husband awoke and saw flames coming from the hood of my truck. The truck had been sitting still for over 13 hours. We immediately called 911. After it was all over I had a shell of a truck and over 80,000 in damages to my brand new home. We have three children and thank God they were at there father's house when this happened. I work for a Saturn dealership and I am going to exhaust every resource that I have until someone does something. I can't believe that a corp. as large as Ford, can sit back and not claim fault for these incidents. I assue you that the Saturn Corporation would stand behind each and everyone of their products. I will never again own another Ford.

I do not own a Expedition but do own a 2000 Navigatort. Has anyone had this problem in Navigators? This is not good at all. Thank god there were not any fatalities. Ford moco needs to really step up to the plate and handle this situation before someone gets seriously hurt.

I found the following URL. Hope this helps a little:

http://www.usatoday.com/money/autos/recall.htm

I do not own a Expedition but do own a 2000 Navigatort. Has anyone had this problem in Navigators? This is not good at all. Thank god there were not any fatalities. Ford moco needs to really step up to the plate and handle this situation before someone gets seriously hurt.

I would say "yes"! Call or email Bruce York with the national Hiway Transportation Safety Administration for info. 202-366-6938 or byork@nhtsa.dot.gov

It all has to do with with redundant brake switch on the cruise control. That same switch (made by TI) is probably on several models from 1997 to present.

I have been in the automotive industrey for the past fifteen years and would like to enlighten you on a little process called out sourcing. The Union Worker has contunually been ridiculed for the relationship they must endure because of the Company's feel the need to be what they call competative in a world market. When consumers go to a Brand name dealer thinking they are buying an American made reliable vehichle they may be suprized to find most of the components have been bought from the CHEAPEST suplyer they can find. Of course this cost savings is past on to you the consumer not. It is truley an embarasment to the Union Worker who try to make an effort to produce a qaulity product to have to install substanderd components from non union sources. I dont mean to sound prejudist but quality product are made by people who have the knowledge and experience to make them right not the cheapest laybor available. The bottom line here is that these company's dont stand behind the components because the cant gaurentee the quality because they stand out on the shop floor and preach quality to the workers and turn around and by components they know are not up to the standerds of what the American consumer expects to get when they shell out $30,000 or $40,000 for an automobile.

I am writing to let everyone know that last Friday night, Nov. 5, our 2000 Expedition caught fire as well. My husband, daughter and I were already asleep. Thankfully a neighbor woke us up and alerted us to the fire in our driveway. When my husband got outside, the flames were already higher than the eaves of our home, and within a foot of our garage. He and the neighbor held the fire off our home with hoses until the fire department showed up.

The fire inspector said it was definitely electrical. The vehicle was a total loss. He also said had it been in our garage we would no longer be here. Our house is not that large, and our infant daughter's room is just on the other side of the garage wall. I can't bear to think of what may have happened to us all.

I am so sorry for those of you who have lost homes because of this. Like many of you, Ford will not return my calls. I have reported this to the NHTSA, and am waiting to hear more from our insurance company. FORD needs to be held responsible for all of these!!! I have owned 4 Fords, but will never own another - nor will anyone in our families!

I have a 2000 Expedition and on Fri. Nov. 19th, 2004 I arrived at work and 1 1/2 hours later I was told that my car was on fire in the parking lot. It was put out quickly and luckily no one was hurt. The fire originated in the electrical system on the left side of the engine compartment near the dash. I was amazed that this is happening to so many others. I hope something can be done about this before someone gets hurt.

I'm glad to see you were not hurt. For all my efforts in explaining my concerns to Ford they basically say "complaint noted, buzz off". Keep expressing concern for people getting hurt and they say the same. The best thing you can do is contact Bruce York at the NTSHA (see earlier posting) If we get a class action going, will you join?

I wish I could help some how. I don't own an explorer, and after reading this, I never will. I wish you all the best of luck. If there is anyway I can help just pm me, I'll do my best.

I am an attorney handling a loss involving a 2000 Ford Expedition. My cause & origin investigator has determined that the fire was caused by a recurring condition found in the majority of Ford products including the Expedition. Apparently the cruise control deactivation switch is mounted on the end of the master cylinder in Ford automobiles. Over time as the operator steps on the brake, brake fluid leaks onto the contacts for the switch and causes a short leading to a fire. I do not have any documentation I can share with you, but I thought this might at least point you in the right direction.

This is exactly what the cause and origin investigator told me about my 2000 Expedition. Have you had any success with Ford? There way too many cases out there. They need to be held responsible for not fixing the problem.


I am an attorney handling a loss involving a 2000 Ford Expedition. My cause & origin investigator has determined that the fire was caused by a recurring condition found in the majority of Ford products including the Expedition. Apparently the cruise control deactivation switch is mounted on the end of the master cylinder in Ford automobiles. Over time as the operator steps on the brake, brake fluid leaks onto the contacts for the switch and causes a short leading to a fire. I do not have any documentation I can share with you, but I thought this might at least point you in the right direction.

I'm glad to see you were not hurt. For all my efforts in explaining my concerns to Ford they basically say "complaint noted, buzz off". Keep expressing concern for people getting hurt and they say the same. The best thing you can do is contact Bruce York at the NTSHA (see earlier posting) If we get a class action going, will you join?

I contacted ntsha and I read today in the La Times that there is a ntsha investigation started. The article states that there are 36 known cases of fires occuring in parked Fords. If a class action gets started I'm in.

My 2000 Expedition caught fire in store parking lot Dec. 24th 2004
Fire was put out quickly and was centered on the area of the master cylinder (deactivation switch) Made report to NHTSA and am
Waiting for insurance company imvestigation.

I am a producer for a television station in Florida. We are actively investigating the fire problems in F150s, Expeditions and Navigators. I would be happy to speak to any owners who have experienced this problem.

Travis Sherwin
WESH-TV
407-539-7935
tsherwin@hearst.com

:angryfire -ford should really do something about this I had my expedition catch on fire in june after being parked for over 2 1/2 hours same scenerio as everyone else fire on driver side under hood and parked. Cruise control had stopped working shortly before. our car was not a total loss $6500 in damage insurance had it repaired. Ford dealership had told me that the fire had started from brake fluid leaking from the master cylinder onto the exhaust manifold. why i even let them fix the car i dont know. its sad this can happen to so many people and ford does not want to do anything about it.

I own a 2000 Expedition and the rear wipers went out about two weeks ago. I have no problem with cruise right now. BUt after reading this thread I will go out and park my rig in the street I just bought a new house and I do not want it to burn down.
I have to take in in to Ford this week because my 4x4 does not seem to want to engage and the light does not come on when I turn the switch.
My question is if everyone thinks it is the cruise switch getting break fluid on it is the cause then is there a way to keep it clean or should I just get it replaced every so often.

I'm another producer in Florida looking into Ford fires. Feel free to contact me.

Teresa Nazario
WTVJ NBC 6
954-622-6316
Teresa.Nazario@NBCuni.com

I am an investigative reporting doing a story on this in the miami area. anyone want to talk? Call me. 954.622.6235 Look forward to talking to the many locals with this same problem!

I read today that the expediditons are being recalled. Mine had already caught fire and has been repaired. Insurance took care of it but I'm out the deductible. Does anyone know if Ford will reimberse anything to the people who were damaged by thier faulty part now that they have acknowleged thier guilt?

Product Liability Firm handling Ford fire cases. For more information please contact us at 305-443-6163 or rpatino@patinolaw.com.

I read today that the expediditons are being recalled. Mine had already caught fire and has been repaired. Insurance took care of it but I'm out the deductible. Does anyone know if Ford will reimberse anything to the people who were damaged by thier faulty part now that they have acknowleged thier guilt?



Product Liability Firm handling Ford fire cases. For more information please contact us at 305-443-6163 or rpatino@patinolaw.com.

On July 23, 2004, our 2000 Ford Expedition caught fire in our garage burning our home down. We had taken it in for the wiper blade recall, but had recently had our rear wiper and cruise control to go out. We were in our garage 1 hour before the fire with nothing happening at that time. My son woke up to flames outside his window (he was asleep in the room above the garage) and smoke coming through the floor. We ran out with the smoke alarms going off as we ran out. Our son's room fell into the fire 10 minutes after we got out of the house. The insurance adjuster says there is not enough of the Expedition left to show proof it started the fire, however the hood was actually melted and the evidence showed the fire started in the area of the Expedition.
The State Fire Marshall Investigator said he had no doubt that the Ford started the fire, as well as all Fire Chiefs and Fire Fighters that were called to the scene (5 units in all). Evidently the insurance company can pay the claim for less than fighting Ford even though our losses were tremendous, we had a 6000 square foot home with a lot of loss including another vehicle in the garage. Our son nearly lost his life, what's it going to take for Ford to take responsibility for this - actual loss of life? We will spend the next year of our life rebuilding and replacing 27 years accumulation of our things. However we can't replace our memories and cherished mementos. We'll never own another Ford and are warning everyone about them. By the way, 2 weeks ago a 1999 Expedition burned in the garage of another home in Pleasant View, Mo. Let's go after them!

Product Liability Firm handling Ford fire cases. For more information please contact us at 305-443-6163 or rpatino@patinolaw.com.

Thanks for all the info (signs & symptoms). I'm shocked to hear all these stories. I now carry a halon fire extinguisher.
I Just traded my 93 Explorer today for a 2000 Expedition XLT 5.4 (It’s Great). I use my cruise all the time, did anyone else? Hope all your losses are reimbursed and this problem is taken care of.

I am extremely concerned, my 2000 expeditons rear wipers stopped working about 4 months ago and the cruise control light also keeps blinking without us using it ........should I be concerned?

I am extremely concerned, my 2000 expeditons rear wipers stopped working about 4 months ago and the cruise control light also keeps blinking without us using it ........should I be concerned?
I would take it into the Ford dealer. They will disconnect the cruise control until they get more parts to fix it. Until then don't park it your garage!

I have a 2000 exp with electrical problems: rear wipers, mirrors, coil packs!!!!! (anybody know how to fix this problem?) and finally....... transmision problems. someone told me about a ford warning on the tv news, please let know if you know something about this??.

ford no more!!!!!!!!!

Looking For Owners Whose 2000 Ford Expedition Have Caught Fire. Due To An Electrical Fire. Need Dates And Proof (investigation Report From Insurance Company Would Be Great) Please Help Me. Ford Is Not Cooperating At All. Need Asap. Want To Go After Ford. Had Recall Done For Wiper Motor And Still Lost The Vehical Due To Fire. Complete Loss.
Has This Happened To You.Hi mkovacco. My 2000 Ford Expedition also caught fire. It happened in May of 2004. I have the fire investigators report stating it was started by the cruise control wire. The recently recalled defective cruise control devices in these 2000 Ford Expeditions are known to start fires under the hood while the vehicle is turned off. I'm am currently seeking representation, as well, to sue Ford. They have denied me any assistance. Because my vehicle was deemed repairable by my insurance, I now have an expensive SUV with a history of an electrical fire that I desperately want to sell before it has any subsequent electrical problems - as everyone assures me it most likely will. Unfortunately, I've only had the vehicle for 2 years and with the drastic depreciation of expeditions, I still have a negative of at least $2,000 - $4,000...assuming I can find a buyer with it's history. (I hope this gets through to you, this is the first time I've ever used automotiveforums)

I have a 2000 exp with electrical problems: rear wipers, mirrors, coil packs!!!!! (anybody know how to fix this problem?) and finally....... transmision problems. someone told me about a ford warning on the tv news, please let know if you know something about this??.

ford no more!!!!!!!!!Hi serginny. I can't help you with the transmission problem, but for the electrical issues, I have two tips: First of all -the warning...Ford has just recalled defective cruise control devices in the 2000 expeditions. (I've already received mine in the mail.) Take care of this ASAP...although replacement parts may not be in full stock. These defective cruise control devices can cause a fire to start under the hood while the vehicle sits, turned off, in your driveway (hint, do NOT park it near the house) This actually happened to me in May of 2004...and I've heard stories of many others. Definitely, do NOT use the cruise control, but I don't know that even that would prevent it. Second - in the repair process, I've learned that the windshield seal is known to leak on these vehicles. This happened to me within 3 months of my electrical fire repairs. Although my fire may have been a precursor, one Ford technician informed me that this was a common problem they were seeing. As a result of the leak, water was getting into the fuse box and causing damage. (I've also noticed a couple of people previously mentioning an old wiper recall, so you might check out that on Ford's website) Good luck...I feel your pain!