I found a 1992 240sx for 2k. Its only the 4 cyl. version with 123k miles. I was thinking if i could do a engine swap that it wouldn't matter about the miles anyways. Can someone give me how easy the s14 engine would be to install and how much it would cost. Or just tell me if its worth even buying the car.

Correct me if I'm wrong but I thought 240's only came in 4 cyl?

I'm probably wrong but, I'm just venturing a guess.

If you want to do an engine swap, do an SR20 or somethin...

maybe it does... i was thinking the SE was a six for some reason.. but does anyone think its a good deal?

Heck yah its a good deal...or at least to me. My 240sx cost me (I mean my parents) 3k and it had 128k miles on it; of course I do live in California so what do you expect? It is also a 92 and I would definately go with the SR20DET swap best bang for your buck in my opinion.

Oh this is a little off topic but is it a hatch or coupe and what color is it?

Mine is a hatch back and it is white...a little random but just curious

-nissan240sxdude

no 240s only have one type of engine and that is the KA engine, and all of em are inline 4's.

why would you want to swap in an engine that is already in there??? A ka24de is a ka24de...or unless you are talking about a japanese s14, which still isn't a big different between the s13 and s14 engines....Go check out kbb.com and find the amount of it. It will give you a good idea on how much the car is worth.

s14 engine will fit...cause its the same engine...prolly less miles though.

2k is a good price if its a good car. dont go cheap and get a f'ed up car.

s14 engine will fit...cause its the same engine...prolly less miles though.

2k is a good price if its a good car. dont go cheap and get a f'ed up car.
Same engine as WHAT?
Ok, If you got a 240SX and everything is basically stock, then your car has a KA24DE. The S-14, which unfortunately for you was never sold in the States, comes with a Sr20de/t, which is an ENTIRELY different engine. If you are talking engine swaps, the SR is most likely the easiest and best bet for you. The biggest difference in the S14 engine is the incorporation of the VVT system. It is an easy SR to spot because the rear (firewall side) of the valve cover slopes rearward. The turbos engines are all painted black on top, and the N/A engine is bare metal.

Check the stickies at the top of this board. You will find all the necessary information up there.

The S-14, which unfortunately for you was never sold in the States, comes with a Sr20de/t, which is an ENTIRELY different engine.

The term "S14" is a chassis designation I believe. The way your sentence is worded is a bit off. I'm sure you were just making reference to the different versions of the SR20DET, ie. S13 SR20DET red top.

But I'm sure as you know and most know, the actual S14, 95-98 models were most definitely available in the US. :icon16:

Just thought we should clear that off. I'd hate for someone to take away my S14 becuase it wasn't available in the US. :grinno:

Same engine as WHAT?
The S-14, which unfortunately for you was never sold in the States, comes with a Sr20de/t, which is an ENTIRELY different engine. .


haha you act like youre teaching me something.

"s-14" which really doesnt have the hyphen btw, is just a chassis code for the 95+ 240sx. therefore the s14 WAS sold in the u.s.

i have an s14, tatII has an s14, jspecsileighty has an s14, publicenemy has an s14.

unfortunately for you, you taught a faulty lesson. the s14's in america came with the same standard ka24de that the s13's had.

check the stickies on top of the board. you will find all the nessecary information up there.

:rofl:

damn desantes! you beat me to it!

lol


freakin gorgeous car man, wanna sell me those old s14 headlights you got?

yea its black(a little sun faded) 5 spd hatch. Gonna go test drive it today and see what it is like... night7racing.com had the black top for about 3 grand i believe but i dont know the mileage on their engine.. it wasn't posted... i was reading super street a while ago and was a article talking about modding a 240 and they suggested on going with the ealier models s-13 chassis ,or whatever the code is, because its relieable.

Ah that says it all "I was reading super street"

Depending on where you are, condition of the car, 5spd vs auto, you might be able to get him down a bit. Plus with only 123k on itI would drive it for a while before you start do to anything, learn the car then make it better.

And don't be afraid to do a lot of reasearch.

dont want the car because of super street...read that article like a year ago.. i was just trying to get ideas about what the car can handle before its putting to much money into something that shouldn't be worth it. I might just get it because its cheap and when i have more money saved get something i want.. dont get me wrong i love imports but for all out power a v8(or higher) is the best way to go, even though most v8's arent the most agile creature in the world..lol. Just the loud sound of the correctly picked exhaust and the force of pushing you back into your seat from almost a stock engine is nice :grinno: Somebody said it ealier in some other forum that there is no replacement for displacement lol.. plus the only way your gonna boost a import to near v8 status is with forced induction or nitrous which are both dangerous.. the aluminum block really isn't made for that on most import and will eventually melt the walls... on the other hand cast blocks (most v8s i think) are tougher.... sorry that was my v8 spat for the day.. again dont get me wrong imports are great, but only if you wanna road race not drag.

thanks for the advice.. still have a lot of thinking to do

crazyboy I believe the KA is a cast-iron block engine, not like the SRs which are aluminum.

Same engine as WHAT?
Ok, If you got a 240SX and everything is basically stock, then your car has a KA24DE. The S-14, which unfortunately for you was never sold in the States, comes with a Sr20de/t, which is an ENTIRELY different engine. If you are talking engine swaps, the SR is most likely the easiest and best bet for you. The biggest difference in the S14 engine is the incorporation of the VVT system. It is an easy SR to spot because the rear (firewall side) of the valve cover slopes rearward. The turbos engines are all painted black on top, and the N/A engine is bare metal.

Check the stickies at the top of this board. You will find all the necessary information up there.

S14s were sold in the states, with a KA engine not SR20. SR20's don't pass emissions here, it's onlys old in Europe and the holy grail of imports which is Japan.

http://images.cardomain.com/member_images/5/web/461000-461999/461271_2_full.jpg :naughty:

That's in front of my house which is American soil buddy, with a KA engine.

we got a 92' se for $750 with a one year old tranny in it:) but it has lil bit of rust, and the interior is dirty. its automatic..do ya'll think its a good deal? its a SE coupe...

TheLogikal1, are you talking about my car's headlights?

If so, yep they'll probably be for sale once I start installing all the pieces on to my car. The reason they look so new is becuase they are. lol. When I bought the car about 3 years ago, the first thing I did was buy new headlights becuase the old ones were yellow.

I know you could probably have polished the old ones but it just wouldn't looks as sharp as brand new ones. So basically they're 3 year old headlights and my car is garage kept, so they're very clean.

If you weren't talking about my car's headlights then disregard my post please. :iceslolan

Otherwise, be on the lookout on my website and I'll have a for sale thread sooner or later. Thanks.

yeah, i definately buy those s14 zenki lights from you give the chance, mine are crackd bashed an yellow. ill keep an eye on your updates and send you a PM once i see that you got those s15 lights in.

S14s were sold in the states, with a KA engine not SR20. SR20's don't pass emissions here, it's onlys old in Europe and the holy grail of imports which is Japan.

:naughty:

That's in front of my house which is American soil buddy, with a KA engine.
Ok, quick test. Pop the hood on your car. Look on the firewall behind the engine. Do you a number stamped there that reads S14-XXXXXXX?

If so, congratulations, you own an S14. If not, you own whatever alphapet soup that the US serial number system gives you. Just because the body is the same does not mean the chassis designator is the same.
When Nissan encodes a vehicle with a chassis designator, it is for the engine and chassis setup as a whole. the S13(and yes i know it is not supposed to have a hyphen) was designated as the body in PE's sig with the SR20DE/T
(the slash in DE/T means it was available as either turbo or non turbo or as i am sure you guys already know, the k's or the q's).

The vehicle sold in the states may be the same chassis as the S14 silvia, but unless it was sold as the same ENGINE AND CHASSIS as the s14 silvia (which it wasn't) then it is not an s14 but a 240sx.

When you post on a forum that addresses an international gathering of car people, you MUST be specific about which vehicle you have. If you say you have a s14, then you have a JDM spec vehicle with the sr20. If you say you have a 95 240sx, then everyone will be on the same sheet of music.

now your just blowing smoke out your ass to try to save youself embarssment

no, its not a silvia, it doesnt mean its not a true s14. its just not sr-powered.

so your trying to tell me that a 1990 rx-7 isnt an FC3S just because it doesnt have the jspec s5 13b?

give it up man.

it's an S14 240sx, the s14 is the chassis code. And the USDM S14's have the same bodies as the silvia s14s, making my car an s14. It doesn't have the SR20DET, but the KA, which makes it a 240sx not the silvia. But it uses the s14 chassis, so it's obviously an s14.

what makes it an s14 is the chassis, not the engine

now your just blowing smoke out your ass to try to save youself embarssment

no, its not a silvia, it doesnt mean its not a true s14. its just not sr-powered.

so your trying to tell me that a 1990 rx-7 isnt an FC3S just because it doesnt have the jspec s5 13b?

give it up man.
Did you know that Mark(matada)lives in Japan? Did you also know that the cars you are discussing such as the S13, S14, as well as the RB26DETT motor from the Skyline is something that Mark deals with everyday of the week? Do you know why? Because Mark owns a shop in Japan that deals with minor tuning(turbo swaps, computers, intercoolers, suspension), repairs, auction ordering, government inspections, and parts. He also owns a garage on contract for big tuning jobs, like full engine builds and such. I think maybe, MAYBE he knows what he is talking about.

yeah,the s14 is just chasis code... actually,saying "then it is not an s14 but a 240sx.",thats also wrong,you should have said "then it is not a SILVIA but a 240sx." my 2 cents...

I PMed this to someone, but i might as well post it here as to try and clarify a few facts:
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I think there is a lot of confusion as to how the Japanese designate the vehicles. The engine and the chassis are designated by the serial number, believe it or not. A good example of this would be the GTR.
BNR32-rb26dett 4WD
HNR32-rb20det 4wd
ECR32-RB25DE/T

Notice how while the numbers are the same, the Letters are different? the letter at the beginning designates the engine.

Interesting note: the N designates 4WD in all nissan vehicles.

I have bought the US model here for customers and it is not listed by the Japanese as a S14. They ALWAYS list it here as a 240SX. I believe the reason behind the US market using the S14 name is more for convience in explaining a body type than anything else.

I apprecieate the maturity of you replies, and it is never my intention to start a pissing contest. My objective was to prevent anyone from confusing the two powerplants due to a misunderstanding of the chassis code.

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Of course there are the ocassional exception, but not in this case. The only abnormal derivitive of the S14 is the CS14, which means it was equipped with HICAS.

^ those this mean all my life i've been fooled of what a 95-98 240sx's chasis code is?:(

^ those this mean all my life i've been fooled of what a 95-98 240sx's chasis code is?:(

Not entirely. If you use S14 to describe you car, that is great; but please indicate somewhere either your geographic location or engine configuration so people can give you the best and most accurate advice. I work on these cars daily, and have a pretty good working knowlege, and I would like to be able to provide assistance.
Everything discussed before is a technicality, and that is not where I was trying to take this. The original question is the one we should be answering here.

Did you know that Mark(matada)lives in Japan?

Because Mark owns a shop in Japan .



i dont care, why does everyone kiss ass once someone from japan says something?



ok matada, ill respect what you said and say your right because im not gonna fight if you already proved yourself right


but you used skyline examples (bnr32...etc) not silvia examples.

do you mind stating the chassis names for all the s-series chassis's?

as you said earlier, the only diffrence was the hicas equipped cs14...what about the rest?

but you used skyline examples (bnr32...etc) not silvia examples.

do you mind stating the chassis names for all the s-series chassis's?

as you said earlier, the only diffrence was the hicas equipped cs14...what about the rest?

Ok, I'll do my best from memory;

Here you go:(from S13 and newer Silvia and 180)

S13-2 Door coupe with or without turbo. CA18 engine (Production ending around 1990)
PS13 2 Door coupe with or without turbo. SR20 Engine. Production ending mid to end 1994 (replaced by S14)
KPS13 2 door coupe with or without turbo. SR20 Engine. Hicas equipped.
RS13 2 door hatch with turbo (if a N/A was offered before 95 in the 180, I have yet to come across it) CA18 engine
RPS13 2 Door hatch. Turbo only. SR20DET (redtop until some time in 94)
KRPS13 2 door hatch. Turbo only. SR20DET (redtop until some time in 94) Hicas equipped.
S14 2 door coupe. SR20 engine with or without turbo. VVT.
CS14 2 door coupe. SR20 engine with or without turbo. VVT. HICAS
S15 door coupe. SR20 engine with or without turbo. VVT.

Ok, I know I may have missed one or two, but that should be a relatively complete list. They offered the 180 non turbo around 95, and the sileighty for a very limited run, but i am relatively certain that the chassis designator remained the same. If I think of any more, I will be sure to post them.

Regards,

Mark

Isn't the 89-90 240SX in the US and Canada labeled a RHS13 ? I seem to recall a similar thread on another forum.