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rolnaldo33
01-24-2004, 01:32 PM
does anyone know how long the head gaskets on a 98 neon will last with 83k mi on it? i only ask because my uncle said neons are notorious for having head gasket problems.

cyber_lord
01-29-2004, 12:09 PM
It kinda varries by the car/driver/conditions.
Does it have any signs of failure at this time? (I.E. oil leak, smoke, mixed fluid...)

swollen balls
01-29-2004, 12:13 PM
it does not vary on the driver it depends on the idiot that would buy a neon.
neon has shitty head gaskets and shitty engines and shitty cars..

rolnaldo33
02-03-2004, 08:25 PM
oh the idiot who buys a neon, huh, well gee...if you got beef with neons, what the f*** are you doin in a neon forum, i'd think a rich piece of crap would have better things to do like drive his fake bently around. i've seen a lot of trash from you "Swolen balls" so why don't you go shove it.

Neon1996
02-03-2004, 08:30 PM
must be an import guy yo u cant hate on neons in a neon forum. its commen sense.uhh so y not try and import forum like uhh...lets say hondas or nissans

!ct!
02-04-2004, 01:22 AM
Stock gaskets composite untol the 00 model year then theywent to mls (multilayered steal) were junk, they havea tendency to leak and cross contaminate the cooling system.
Agree with your uncle!

98JADENEON
02-04-2004, 02:20 PM
does anyone know how long the head gaskets on a 98 neon will last with 83k mi on it? i only ask because my uncle said neons are notorious for having head gasket problems.

i have 93000 on my 98 DOHC and it works just fine. From what i have found out on www.neons.org most if not all of the 98's had the better head gaskets. 97 and back had the bad ones that went out before 60K. So i would say if you have 83K on yours then you are good. There is no reason to replace the head gasket unless it is leaking. But i would think about doing the timing back in the next 10K miles. If that breaks then you have to have the head rebuilt and you are talking about a ton of cash.

NeonStyl
02-05-2004, 12:18 AM
Exactly what 98JADENEON said... Your head gasket should be fine unless you are experiencing signs of it giving out like oil in the coolant and what-not. However, I would highly recommend getting your timing belt changed before you reach 100k. You might as well change out your water pump for a new one while your in there as well, as you can easily access it during the timing belt job. If you have a SOHC and are doing the work yourself, you can find a SOHC Timing Belt How-To HERE. (http://www.neonspeed.com/howto/howto_1stgen_sohctimingbelt.htm)

L8R,

rolnaldo33
02-05-2004, 03:59 PM
thanks for the input, i got a dohc tho, so if you know any good placed to do that, lemme know k?

neonracer98
02-08-2004, 02:12 AM
Well lets see here

If the neon is fixed with the MLS headgasket it will not blow ever again. Every neon made after 1998 build year came with the MLS gasket from the factory.

98JADENEON
02-08-2004, 12:27 PM
Well lets see here

If the neon is fixed with the MLS headgasket it will not blow ever again. Every neon made after 1998 build year came with the MLS gasket from the factory.

i do not no if i would go as far to say it will never blow again but yes if you have the MSL head gasket it will last a long time more than 100K without a problem and that is normal for most head gaskets. now if you start modding it with a turbo or NOS figure on replacing it alot more.

R/T Pimp
02-11-2004, 10:10 PM
I have a 95 neon with +300,000 k's on it...I have replaced the head gasket 3 times...and once I even got the copper head gasket which is suppose to be almost impossible to blow...but low and behold the head gasket is gone again...I got oil leaking into my rad fluid now....95-99's have this problem I think...so be prepared ppl!

98JADENEON
02-11-2004, 10:30 PM
I have a 95 neon with +300,000 k's on it...I have replaced the head gasket 3 times...and once I even got the copper head gasket which is suppose to be almost impossible to blow...but low and behold the head gasket is gone again...I got oil leaking into my rad fluid now....95-99's have this problem I think...so be prepared ppl!

if you blew out a copper one i would say your head is warpped. i have a turbo daytona that has over 300 hp and i run 25 PSI and i have not blown my head gasket yet. now on my laberon with the same set up i blew 2 head gaskets within 25K miles and when i had the head checked it was bad. i would have your head checked out

rolnaldo33
02-12-2004, 04:32 PM
i don't have any problems with my head, but if it does warp, would it be best to get it machined down again or just to get a new head?

98JADENEON
02-12-2004, 07:03 PM
if you blew out a copper one i would say your head is warpped. i have a turbo daytona that has over 300 hp and i run 25 PSI and i have not blown my head gasket yet. now on my laberon with the same set up i blew 2 head gaskets within 25K miles and when i had the head checked it was bad. i would have your head checked out
depends on how much they have to take off. if it is to much you will have a timing problem because of the overhead cam. you could also have tension problems with the belt. the machine shop has all specs on what will work and will not. places also make spacers if they take to much off but i do not like those.

blachdohcneon
02-13-2004, 12:41 AM
swollan balls is a f@g, this isnt queer eye for the car guy so later, biatch.

headgasket isnt to hard to do yourself, other then a socket set, you probably only have to rent a damper puller, autozone rents all tools for free, just gotta put down a deposit.

Sluttypatton
02-13-2004, 04:47 AM
People reveal their ignorance and stupidity by making comments about the Neon. These are the same people who think Eclipses\Talons are sweet, however they are unaware that the heart of the NA Eclipse\Talon is the 420a Neon engine. The 420a is well designed motor, it can be unbelievably durable, and makes excellent power (I admit I am somewhat biased).
The only pitfall of the 420a was the expansion rate difference between the aluminum head and cast iron block, causing headgaskets to deteriorate rapidly. However, that was quickly solved with the MLS gasket.
So do us all a favour Swollen Balls and get educated. When you are ready to make comments worth listening to, people might listen.

98JADENEON
02-13-2004, 08:56 AM
i take it is post was deleted??? i read the last two and got lost.

cassy d
02-13-2004, 10:12 PM
Exactly what 98JADENEON said... Your head gasket should be fine unless you are experiencing signs of it giving out like oil in the coolant and what-not. However, I would highly recommend getting your timing belt changed before you reach 100k. You might as well change out your water pump for a new one while your in there as well, as you can easily access it during the timing belt job. If you have a SOHC and are doing the work yourself, you can find a SOHC Timing Belt How-To HERE. (http://www.neonspeed.com/howto/howto_1stgen_sohctimingbelt.htm)

L8R,
I don't know guys! I have a 1999 Neon Sport (DOHC) and just replaced the head gasket for the 2nd time. The first time at 27,000 mile (under warrenty) the dealer replaced it but did not machine the head. I just replaced it agian at 87,000 miles alone with the timing belt, water pump, ignition coil. Now I am hearing this noise in the back of the car, near the brakes maybe, it sound like grinding. Its not the brake though, I had that checked. It does it periodically like somewher near the muffler area (but it won'y do it when I go to the dealer) Help! any suggestions?

98JADENEON
02-14-2004, 09:28 AM
I don't know guys! I have a 1999 Neon Sport (DOHC) and just replaced the head gasket for the 2nd time. The first time at 27,000 mile (under warrenty) the dealer replaced it but did not machine the head. I just replaced it agian at 87,000 miles alone with the timing belt, water pump, ignition coil. Now I am hearing this noise in the back of the car, near the brakes maybe, it sound like grinding. Its not the brake though, I had that checked. It does it periodically like somewher near the muffler area (but it won'y do it when I go to the dealer) Help! any suggestions?

Check the wheel bearings. That can make a grinding noise.

neonracer98
02-14-2004, 10:37 AM
remember get the head milled down, but if its warped beyond the point of being saved get a new one

brandi01001011
11-21-2004, 06:34 PM
I got my 98 neon with about 98k mi and the head gasket blew at about 148k.

I've researched the issue a little and it looks like the fan relay has been recalled on some of the vehicles. Lo and behold, I checked and my fan is not working. I got the d*mned car inspected by three different mechanics when it first started running hot and no one discovered that the fan wasn't coming on.

I'm assuming that if you keep the fan working, the head gasket won't blow. Apparently it has to be replaced rather frequently.

As expected, Dodge has no remedy for this problem. You're just expected to deal with it yourself as the problem arises.

jeanboy
11-22-2004, 07:12 PM
I bought a 98 Neon a couple of weeks ago. Carfax came up clean, and it only had 44,000 miles on it, so I went for it. I took it for an oil change the next day, and ten days later the oil light flickered on the first time. It was a couple of quarts low. A couple of days ago I finally checked the radiator, and there's oil in it. I've been quoted a price of $850 to fix. Apparently there's a new metal gasket that lasts a fair amount of time. After doing some Internet searches, I contacted Chrysler as recommended. They were zero help. The car still runs well as long as I keep oil in it, but once the weather gets cold, I'm going to be in trouble.

barretire
11-23-2004, 12:26 PM
does anyone know how long the head gaskets on a 98 neon will last with 83k mi on it? i only ask because my uncle said neons are notorious for having head gasket problems. Maintyenance is the key there is no set mileage

Sluttypatton
11-23-2004, 06:09 PM
Actually, in this case, maintainance has little to do with it. The notorious Neon head gasket problem had to do with the difference between the expansion rates of the aluminum head and the iron block, and a poorly designed head gasket. I can't remember how long they usually last.

NEON-J-ROC
11-30-2004, 01:32 AM
Hey arsehole, I don't think I'd define an idiot by someone who buys a neon, your the freakin idiot who calls yourself swollen balls, try gettin some pussy and maybe your balls won't be so swollen, if you drove a neon, maybe chicks would be more attracted to you and it would solve your swollen ball issue.

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