In terms of reliabilty, which is better? Although i REALLY want a gsx/gst, i cant have a car that could potentialy cost thousands to repair...

GSX88 dont take this the wrong way or im not tryin to be a dick but u already started a few threads askin bout the gst/gsx vs other cars sayin witch one would be better for u...do u kno what car u gettin? my bad just curious and its gettin confusin and im not sayin not to post and ask question and so on..but to answer your question i heard the 3000gt cost lots of money of its engine repairs, more then the eclipse. but man dont take it the wrong way of what i said im just curious and i havent had a drink for a while..laterz :sunglasse

I HAVE had a drink in a while, 15 shots actually.. ANYWAY I feel fantastic!! Point is...

DSM's can make a lot of HP, you don't need 3000GT for anything.. it has no advantages. I could expand for a few paragraphs, but that's it. 4G63 can make tons of power.

There both good, eclipse is cheaper. I also think insurance doesnt consider it a sports car, so that will be cheaper.

3000gt breaks down just as much or more as the eclipse.

around hear all of the 3000gt cost half as much as the gsx or gst so thats why i asked

i might not be the best.. but before i bought the car i compared all the cars in my price range...there were times when i used to compare a geo metro to ford mustang and eclipse...there is nothing wrong i guess caz no one wants to put 1000's of dollar and buy something which is not worth it... second of all there is no car which is not reliable.. it is only us who make it not reliable... stock eclipse gsx 210 hp... if u drive it with the same hp without doing any mods.. i bet it will live more than u...provided u do the maintain it properly...same goes with 3000gt or a honda... but if u want ur car to give 2 times the power of stock then u gotta spend that much of money... try to compare a car with urself.. wat if ur parents ask u to become a succesfull guy without providing u any funds to learn??? u will breakdown rite.. that is what u doing to ur car (example is a bit weird but cannot come up with a nice on :D )... but i hope u get the point... to get something u have to give up something... in this case .. if u have money spend it.. if not be happy with wat u got... no point whining... just see how much money u got and wat u need the car for... if u have a job then u can get ur dream come true.. but all takes time and u gotta wait...so both those cars and even other cars are good depends on how u treat it...if u want too much power from it then get ready to spend :) if not Geo metro is ur choice :D way to go geo !!!

around hear all of the 3000gt cost half as much as the gsx or gst so thats why i asked

If thats the case, you arent comparing turbo to turbo. Non turbo POS 3kGTs are a dime a dozen, turbo models are very rare and still quite costly.

sorry i forget to specify that

Depends on model.

'90-'99 3000gt VR4 = *Very* powerful engine. A very competent twin turbo block. AWD. Looks awesome. A true 'supercar'. Its engine can handle alot of power, if you can find the parts. Expensive. 3.0L Twin Turbo.

Non VR4 = SHIT, don't get it. A sheep in wolf's clothing. Gas guzzler.

'95-'99 GSX = Slower, but cheaper. Great selection of parts. AWD also. High potential. Weaker stock internals (but can hold quite a bit on its own). Can be made to look very nice, if not already. 2.0L Single Turbo.

If you can find a cheap VR4, go for it, but I'd say GSX.

but did u just say 95 - 99 gsx = slower ???

i think he did say that 95eclipse-gsx :)

['95-'99 GSX = Slower, but cheaper. Great selection of parts. AWD also. High potential. Weaker stock internals (but can hold quite a bit on its own). Can be made to look very nice, if not already. 2.0L Single Turbo.]

All the above said are false.. if 95gsxracers hears this he is gonna tell u to turn back.. and drop ur pants and...(censored) :D joking... let me re phrase his sentence...
95 - 99 gsx = faster... cheaper to modify...lighter than vr4...both AWD ( and can hold a lot on its own and also owns a lot of other cars) strong iron block and stock internals which can hold around 500hp (quote from 95gsxracer) u dont have to make it look nice caz it already has a j lo ass :D... and the only thing which he said that is correct was 2.0 single turbo and also 3000gt has all wheel steering (AWS).. and i also want to know this.. wats the advantage of all wheel steering ????

Oh man, no offense, but wtf are you smoking. Honestly. To repeat:

"Slower, but cheaper."
Let's compare.
---------------------------0-60----1/4 mile
1997 Mitsubishi 3000GT VR-4 4.8s 13.6s
1995 Mitsubishi Eclipse GSX 6.4s 14.9s

A VR4 Twin Turbo is NOT slower than a GSX. In fact, stock for stock, it would blow the eclipse out of the water. Mitsubishi made it a 6 speed supercar, and made it very competent. It makes 320 horses at 6k rpms. Even at a heavy weight, it will move faster than the eclipse's 210hp. Get the picture now?

A VR4 actually costs a shit load more than the GSX. At least around here, I can get a 95 GSX for about 7 grand, a 95 VR4 with about the same miles is about 13k.

"Great selection of parts."
This is true, in comparison with 3000gt parts.

"AWD also."
True.

"High potential."
From its selection of aftermarket parts.

"Weaker stock internals (but can hold quite a bit on its own)."
Key word is weaker. The 3kgt can take *more*.

"Can be made to look very nice, if not already."
I like the look of the GSX.

"2.0L Single Turbo."
Thank you for acknowledging it's true.

4WS steering is nothing special, a little better maneuvering is all; The 3kgt also has an Active Aero system that angles the spoiler at higher speeds to create better downforce, but I hear it doesn't do much.

Do some research.

lol i was not bashing u... me and chavez 408 are the two guys who mess with other comments to make a thread a bit intresting :D dont take it seriously :) plus for a stock to a stock vr4 might be faster but no guy buys this car to keep it in stock... and if u modify with the same amount of cash J LO will win :D

Damn straight, bitch. *smack*

:-D

3000GT VR4 is the Eclipses biger brother. It is just an overweight Eclipse. It has a bigger engine to make up for the extra weight.

Get a GSX , thats the end. Discussion over:D

me and chavez 408 are the two guys who mess with other comments to make a thread a bit intresting :D

damn straight! :evillol:

I just wanted to know which would be more reliable!!! lol. good info here from u guys on all different aspects. Now i was comparing a 3kgt nt to a turbo eclipse. I love both cars but reliability is my main concern. Now in your oppinion, will a nt 3kgt that is not driven hard have fewer and less sever repairs needed? Just wanna get some info so i dont hafta get stuck driving a 93 camrey forever

I think reliability on both is about the same. But keep in mind fixing a 3000gt is much more expensive and more difficult than an eclipse (even taking out spark plugs is a hassle). Go with the GSX, NA 3kgts suck. Only the VR4 is turbocharged.

go with the eclipse man, i heared alot of things about the 3000gt costin too much on repairs and ect...and im not talkin bout one or two owners...




for ones in ur life trust a mexican :p

The VR$ may be faster stock for stock, but it should be for 50 grand new, and who the hell is going to leave it stock. Put a couple grand into each one and it will soon become apparent why so many people mod DSMs. And while we're at it, look at the fastest vr4, and the fastest DSM. If you think tranny breakages are a bitch in DSMs, do some research on the vr4s. There is no competition in my opinion. For the average joe racer, the DSM is the way to go between the two. Do a 3kgt if you have cash and want to do something "different."